What's happening in China?

[cayman]

Posted by write4change (here)
.... Just be careful too.

That is the thing get in my way, I have to be very carefull to not cross the line, especially given the knowledge of the powerful 'spider'. at the same time , I'm not comfortable of rambling things without a confirm check. so I might start some pieces which being hidden in public domain, then into the pieces I think could be true, and leave the conclusion to your own opinion. things just happen too fast to check-recheck it all, give me some time to coordinate my stuff, I'll post it as soon as possible.

[sygh]

cayman,

Thank you so much! You have no idea how much joy I got form reading your post. What a pleasure you are!!!!

[cayman]

Posted by sygh (here)
cayman,

Thank you so much! You have no idea how much joy I got form reading your post. What a pleasure you are!!!!

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy it, it's my pleasure.

[mrkumamon]

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[mrkumamon]

Posted by cayman (here)
What is really happening in China-IV：Chinese "ROSWELL" Event

Posted by "Chaska108" post=16883
great to have you on the boards Cayman, Have a question on the UFO sighitings over airports in china, that were run on Youtube channels
was this News shown for the guy on the street in China?
Did people in China know it was going on? did the Offical Press print anything on this?
thanks
and we all are enjoying your posts here on the forum

yep, this was very well known as "XiaoShan UFO" event happened in July 2010, back then, every major websites in China and some local TV channel, several national newspaper cover that story for some weeks. There were very hot discussion about it, below is some very various good video of the same event. it cause a major airport shutdown, and appear in several big city, like Shanghai, Hangzhou,

video 1 this one is amazing
video 2
report 1
report 2

back then, this event got so big. Government had to sending out some "official" investigate team. of course, the end result is one word: vague. Just like “Roswell" but I'm sure that inspired more people to think....this kind of UFO sighting things happen in China very often recently, in many different places.
sometimes I can't help to think if we can call it "UFO self-disclosure movement".

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[cayman]

Posted by halobaby (here)
I think if we want to know who is behind the amazing development of China's techs ,we'd better follow the flow of money.
Or whether there're really some bases in which Chinese working by the help of alien brain like aliens working with USA gov ,possiblly it is I think.
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Yep, follow the money---that is my expertise
I'll dig out the "white hats" within Chinese authority. then we will have our real disclosure project
that's what I'm focusing, I hope I'll have the first break before June this year.

[mrkumamon]

Posted by cayman (here)

Posted by halobaby (here)
I think if we want to know who is behind the amazing development of China's techs ,we'd better follow the flow of money.
Or whether there're really some bases in which Chinese working by the help of alien brain like aliens working with USA gov ,possiblly it is I think.
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Yep, follow the money---that is my expertise
I'll dig out the "white hats" within Chinese authority. then we will have our real disclosure project
that's what I'm focusing, I hope I'll have the first break before June this year.

WOW, how nice it would be if we have our real disclosure project.
And take care ,Cayman ,you're a brave and brilliant man .
Today is Lantern Festival ,blessings to you .Happy all year round.

[cayman]

Posted by halobaby (here)
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Today is Lantern Festival ,blessings to you .Happy all year round.

Everyone, 元宵节快乐！

[The One]

http://www.bobhenneman.info/china.htm

[loc333]

i know this will sound stupid but here it goes.....if the dollar is like a posion to china that they cant spend or it will hurt there economy....forgive half the debt make the dollar stronger....win win or am i being a stupid stupid

[cayman]

Posted by loc333 (here)
i know this will sound stupid but here it goes.....if the dollar is like a posion to china that they cant spend or it will hurt there economy....forgive half the debt make the dollar stronger....win win or am i being a stupid stupid

will USA sell half of its resource to China? in that case, half the debt could be forgiven----win win,right?
quick pro quo, works everywhere. "win win" just a fancy word

[write4change]

In many ways that is what we fear. I am for givning you half of our world bases. TPTB will want to give you our national parks and parking meters. LOL

Hopefully, people like us with join in mediating the nonsense.

[Peace of Mind]

Keep doing your part, Cayman.

Words can not express the great respect I have for people like you. Never ever get discourage for doing what’s right. We need more brave souls like you in this world. I honestly feel like the Human race needs a slap in the face to wake up…or in the least get angry enough to defend themselves from the attacks. In my experiences, those that stood up to bullies/injustices have always obtained a level of peace. Those that allow it to continue have always been the complainers, finger pointers, the frightened waiting for superman to come save the day. If they only knew they are the superheroes...

It saddens me to see how much fear is in the world, its turning people into worthless zombies. They are too scared to think for themselves, protect themselves, and advance themselves because they are half way scared to death.

I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.

When you cheat yourself, you don’t deserve help from anyone or thing. I can’t think of anyone that respects a coward.
Things are not going to get any better until people realize they are the only ones that can save them…from the HANDFUL of oppressors. Its just simple math. There’s strength in unity, if you stay divided, you stay a slave hiding in the mist patiently waiting for your own demise…then, possibly coming back to repeat what you didn’t finish the last time. Talk about get thrown for a loop…

I don’t want to come back here unless the people start acting like they care. Maybe this is why Babies cry after exiting the womb; they realize where they are just before their memory is erased. I actually feel sorry for the new born. (that’s just my own thoughts….)

Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

[cayman]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
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I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.
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Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

What a great mind! you are a great soul! I salute you.
Thank you for your heart, Peace of Mind, I will keep that in mind
make this experience the best it can be

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by cayman (here)

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
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I guess some are just accustomed to living on their knees. What good is living in this life if you don’t live it to the fullest? We all are going to leave this place one day, but in the mean time we need to make this experience the best it can be…not the worse it can be.
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Good luck Cayman, even though you really don't need it. Just be mindful of your thoughts, no fear.

Peace

What a great mind! you are a great soul! I salute you.
Thank you for your heart, Peace of Mind, I will keep that in mind
make this experience the best it can be

I salute you...
I can't thank you enough for what you are doing...

Peace

[alrik35]

Doesn't sound very positive....but same here !
These CONTROLLERS are working together worldwide...im sure of it.
They want to introduce the NWO and problaby everyone who's willing to join gets a better life.....uhum..NOT

[jackovesk]

Cayman, do you have any futher info you can share with us on the AFP story below?

AFP
Feb 20, 2011

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the “Jasmine Revolution” spreading through the Middle East.

The calls have apparently led the Chinese government to censor postings containing the word “jasmine” in an attempt to quell any potential unrest.

“We welcome… laid off workers and victims of forced evictions to participate in demonstrations, shout slogans and seek freedom, democracy and political reform to end ‘one party rule’,” one posting said.

The postings, many of which appeared to have originated on overseas websites run by exiled Chinese political activists, called for protests in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and 10 other major Chinese cities.



China web users call for 'Jasmine Revolution'

(AFP) – 23 hours ago

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the "Jasmine Revolution" spreading through the Middle East.

The calls have apparently led the Chinese government to censor postings containing the word "jasmine" in an attempt to quell any potential unrest.

"We welcome... laid off workers and victims of forced evictions to participate in demonstrations, shout slogans and seek freedom, democracy and political reform to end 'one party rule'," one posting said.

The postings, many of which appeared to have originated on overseas websites run by exiled Chinese political activists, called for protests in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and 10 other major Chinese cities.

Protesters were urged to shout slogans including "we want food to eat," "we want work," we want housing," "we want justice," "long live freedom," and "long live democracy."

Chinese authorities have sought to restrict media reports on the recent political turmoil that began in Tunisia as the "Jasmine Revolution" and spread to Egypt and throughout the Middle East.

Unemployment and rising prices have been key factors linked to the unrest that has also spread to Bahrain, Yemen, Algeria and Libya.

Searches Sunday for "jasmine" on China's Twitter-like micro-blog Weibo ended without results, while messages on the popular Baidu search engine said that due to laws and regulations such results were unavailable.

Some Chinese Internet search pages listed "jasmine" postings but links to them were blocked.

The Chinese government has expended tremendous resources to police the Internet and block anti-government postings and other politically sensitive material with a system known as the "Great Firewall of China."

In a speech given Saturday, Chinese President Hu Jintao acknowledged growing social unrest and urged the ruling Communist Party to better safeguard stability while also ordering strengthened controls over "virtual society" or the Internet.

"It is necessary to strengthen and improve a mechanism for safeguarding the rights and interests of the people," Xinhua news agency quoted Hu as saying.

A key to achieve the goal is to "solve prominent problems which might harm the harmony and stability of the society... safeguard people's rights and interests, promote social justice, and sustain sound social order."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...aad6cc3018.441

[mrkumamon]

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[cayman]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Cayman, do you have any futher info you can share with us on the AFP story below?

AFP
Feb 20, 2011

BEIJING — Postings circulating on the Internet have called on disgruntled Chinese to gather on Sunday in public places in 13 major cities to mark the “Jasmine Revolution” spreading through the Middle East.
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Thanks for the input, jackovesk, I didn't know that until I saw your post yesterday---that's some really serious event. so I spent one day to check. the AFP story is basically true.

further more: I managed to have a look at the Official MEMO regard this event from someone inside. two point:
1) "some group oversea" instigate this event, but the MEMO didn't tell who or what. my best guess is the insider isn't high enough to know a deeper story,and, "OVERSEA" is a "need to know basic" for now.

2) CCP high level officers KNEW before it even happen---now I can say for sure, they do monitor everything. but why they let it happen? my assumption is: it is some kind of "shock testing" for CCP, they want to know for sure who will actually show up, when somebody do show up, the CCP can nail the "right one" they want, with proper excuse. they can nip it from the bud; on another hand, the high level officers want to know how will the low level force react, then they will learn which part is "short". they can enhance further.

to sum up, the CCP comprehend the situation very well, and they have every confidence maintain control--ego,huh?

my personal investigation confirm that this event did happen in Beijing, GuangZhou, Wuhan. further than that, whether it is true that this event occur in 13 cities simultaneously? I don't know. nevertheless, it is a sign, it is a start.

it is a "shock testing" for both sides.

I personally think the timing is still immature, not yet. but it is a sign that China is steering to a deeper water


BTW: there is absolutely nothing about this event being reported on interior news----you see what I mean the "EGO"

[hao]

Posted by alrik35 (here)
Doesn't sound very positive....but same here !
These CONTROLLERS are working together worldwide...im sure of it.
They want to introduce the NWO and problaby everyone who's willing to join gets a better life.....uhum..NOT

As an ex-military person and an expert on military affairs and geo-political issues, Song Xiaojun's (his blog is very popular) comments reflect certain concerns of the Chinese military.

He once co-authored a book called "China's Not Happy" with a renowned "nationalist" writer Wang xiaodong. When it comes to the question of China's future global role, basically, Wang envisioned a world in which China would have to beat the "boxing champion"(USA) first, then China will smash the "boxing arena"(the global orders and rules imposed by the USA and its western allies) in order to become the global decision maker.

The CCP official mouth piece Xinhua however reported the book with a "condemning" tone, but its only more condemning in its English version (which is rather intended for Western audiences) than from its Chinese version. For many years, China has continuously expressed that it wants to see a "multilateral world". Their attitude towards Wang's book and the way they handled it was certainly interesting to ponder.

Over the years within the last decade, there were already warnings from various Chinese intellectuals about the danger of certain parts of the Chinese national apparatus been "serving" foreign interests.

There were articles written by active PLA officers in which they expressed concerns over foreign sabotages threatening China's economic security, "the Chinese military has the capability to safeguard China's national security, but it can not claim the same when it comes to the economic security", implying "holes" in the government that need to be fixed.

The submarine missile shots offshore Los Angeles last November clearly demonstrated that the Chinese military is not on the same boat with the NWO, which happened just when the USA send three aircraft carrier groups to the East China Sea, an unprecedented act by the US military during peace times.

The same people who believed Saddam had WMD would also buy into the notion that somehow North Korea poses immediate threat to the "world", not to mention the mysteries surrounding the Cheonan sinking incident which was the spark for the raising tensions in the region. The real problem is the "military imbalance" across the 38th parallel, not otherwise. So the aircraft carriers were clearly for China.

Hu jin tao gave George.W.Bush a copy of Sun Tzu’s Art of War in 2006 when he visited there. To me, it looks more like a "letter of challenge" than an "agreement to work together". David Wilcock has a better way to put this; there is a huge gap between a hyper-sensitive and over-protective government and a plan to kill billions of people. (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1219578/pg1 according to this thread, China is working together with aliens, possibly to eradicate everyone except Asians, which DW deemed as disinformation against China, who really has that kind of plan, according to DW's trusted friend Benjamin Fulford is the NWO)

Whether DW and Benjamin are right about China or not, it’s clear to me China is not working with the NWO. It would be insane for China to embrace the ones who threatened the Chinese with their lab created SARS. Will anyone trust a man who wants to kill you?

Westerners often judge China with a simple mind, partly due to the constant "anti-China" barrages by the MSM (who control the MSM in the West?), and partly due to the totalitarian nature of the Chinese government. The irony and truth behind this is, ""Propaganda," says Noam Chomsky, "is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state"--in other words, the means by which leaders keep the masses in line."

It’s understandable that anyone who’s sick of the NWO would want to see another "oppressed" people free from another group of control freaks who possibly have some dealing with the NWO, right? But one forgets to ask oneself the question why then the NWO has continuously fed people with such feelings by their constant "China bashing"? Many of which are outright lies,
William Engdahl's "Darfur? It’s the Oil, Stupid…"
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/
Michel Chossudovsky's "China and America: The Tibet Human Rights PsyOp"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8673
"Western Media Fabrications regarding the Tibet Riots"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=8697
Dr. Michael Parenti's "Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=7355

Does it not contradict with the very idea of them working together? So the Tibet unrest in 2008, and Xinjiang unrest in 2009, is it the way of CIA working with Chinese government to establish NWO worldwide? It certainly does not look like it that way.

If one can view the Chinese government without absolute, like what the guy said from "you must listen to this call" (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011...-to-this-call/ or http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2011/...must-hear.html), "there is no absolute communism, and there is no absolute democracy".

Then I want to say there are different factions within the CCP, at least, the former president and the current president don’t always agree with each other. Like how Hu dealt with the corrupt former Shanghai mayor Chen liangyu, the incident reflects internal power struggles between the so called "shanghai group" and "Hu's camp".

It’s pertinent to add, that some members of this "shanghai group" still hold important positions in the current government, but nonetheless are known for connection to some of the biggest corruption cases ever occurred since the founding of the PRC.
The family member of a high ranking official i met belong to the "shanghai group", they have strong dislike towards another high ranking official who once suggested that all CCP officials should have their properties registered. But according to them, the man who made such suggestion is more corrupt than anyone else.

It doesn’t matter who’s more corrupt, its clear to me its a sign of rampant corruption within the CCP, that some of the biggest corruption cases occurred during the reign of "shanghai group" will need some conclusion in the future.

When there is corruption, and greed for money, it makes sense certain parts of the Chinese government would "fell prey" to the NWO. Which is precisely why there have been warnings from both civilian and military intellectuals all these years. Another sign of this would be the biggest corruption case since founding of the PRC that is still unsolved, am talking about the Lai's case, who’s seeking refuge in Canada for all these years, and Canada happens to be a close friend of the USA, the CIA would surely exploit such to their own advantage because it involves very high ranking officials from the "shanghai group".

However, the Art of War raises a question, if it was not the shadow force (look who’s behind Hu on Tiananmen during the 60th anniversary parade? and what was the expression on Mr.Hu's face?) and not Hu's own camp (which the "confidence" rather seem "new found"), then who’s pulling the strings behind the scenes?

David Wilcock says there are different factions in China, the one countering the illuminati is not necessarily the one from the CCP, Benjamin Fulford talks about the Chinese secret society, the informer from "you must listen to this call" talks about "the Chinese elders".

What’s likely to me is that the Art of War given to G.W.Bush was a "letter of challenge", that this new found confidence is not from the "shanghai group" since some of them were "compromised" by foreign influence, Benjamin Fulford's recent blog entry mentioned something about "compromised" Chinese officials as well, which gives the impression that this "compromise" is quite extensive. If the Chinese government is under certain influence from the NWO and at the same time declares to challenge it, then it’s logical to assume there maybe a third party involved.

Another factor would be the ETs, both David Wilcock and Benjamin Fulford as well as the Nexus magazine editor Duncan, report that the Chinese are collaborating with alien visitors. Though they tend to differ in regard to this information, with DW believe it is "positive", Duncan believe it is "negative", while Benjamin don’t believe the information.

To understand the future one might need to look back into history, the China-Alien connection may sounds like fantasy, but my re-examination of Chinese history revealed a possible China-Alien connection in the past. I would like to share my research in the next post.

Personally, i think the ET factor is very essential when it comes to the big picture.

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Hangzhou's Xiaoshan airport was shut down for more than an hour last year, due to a trespassing UFO. Just 3 days ago all flights were suspended due to runway crack, which was caused by prolonged low temperature, according to an "official" explanation. May be so, but i just wondered whether its coincidence or not that it is the same airport which was shut down by an UFO last year?
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...2/7294326.html

Hangzhou is within the area where ancient Liangzhu culture located, i just discovered last year that the cultures of ancient China have some cultural connection to both ancient Mesoamerican and pre-Incan cultures, based on certain relics, i suspect there was a common "god"(or a group of gods) influencing the ancient cultures of China and the Americas.

If 2012 is the date when these ancient American "gods" will "return", (because i suspect they never really left), then i cant stop to wonder whether they have facilities in the vicinity of the ancient cultures that they influenced?

Like in the city of Hangzhou? One of the most famous poet of the Song dynasty, Su Shi(1037-1101AD) once reported an incident in one of his poems, when he was sailing over the West lake (one of Hangzhou's most famous attraction) one night, a luminant object suddenly came out of the lake and lightened the nearby hill as it flew across.

The luminant object in the 11th century was definitely not "man-made" or "Chinese lantern", i just have to wonder whether it was a "temporary parking" or there is something "permanent" there.

Example of certain cultural connection between ancient China and ancient Americas:

I came across “The Hidden History of the Human Race" by accident

Among the many interesting things the program showed, I can't stop noticing the similarities between certain ancient Ecuadorian artifacts and that of the Qijia culture from China

The Ecuadorian figurines have distinct large round eyes and a distinct mouth
http://i55.tinypic.com/2j4znlh.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/bdp9bd.jpg

This one, besides the distinct large round eyed figures, the shape of this artifact, a round object with a round hole in the centre very much resembles the ancient Chinese jade bi object, which was used for the worship of the heaven since ancient Chinese believed in a "round" heaven.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lo0unp.jpg
An ancient Chinese Jade bi
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ic9tsi.jpg

The figurines from the Qijia culture bear uncanny similarities to the ancient Ecuadorian figures shown above
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ememb9.jpg

A pair of figures from Qijia culture is very reminiscent of the figures on the round object from Ecuador, even the alike posture.
Chinese one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cmww0y.jpg
Ecuadorian one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lo0unp.jpg

Ancient alien connection and huge alien crafts visiting ancient China:

Olivia Dunham finally gets to meet William Bell in parallel universe, in the TV series Fringe.
http://i53.tinypic.com/14tafdh.jpg

A Jade bi is placed just outside Bell's office, an ancient Chinese ritual object for worship of the heaven, the round shape is a manifestation of the ancient belief of a "round" heaven, and the hole in the centre represents communication or connection with the heaven

A Chinese jade Bi, with depiction of three "immortals", exact date and origin is unknown, but the archaic style appears to be "Neolithic"
http://i55.tinypic.com/2ic9tsi.jpg

The Temple of Heaven in Beijing was built by the Ming dynasty in the early 15th century, just like the jade bi, those round platforms represent the Heaven, the main Hall in the centre was constructed to "honor heaven and worship god".
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z7lst3.jpg

The coiled body of the serpent/dragon is also the manifestation of this "round" heaven belief.
The C shaped dragon, the typical of Hongshan culture is accompanied by an “immortal”.
http://i51.tinypic.com/2prhj0n.jpg
Twin “half man and half serpent” figures from the “spring-autumn” period
http://i56.tinypic.com/313tbmx.jpg
Dragon from Lingjiatan culture
http://i54.tinypic.com/etscuc.jpg

Why ancient people envisioned something aeriform as the Heaven to be “round”? Few years ago, a Chinese author asked this question when he wrote a book titled "The Aliens are on the Moon". The book cited a petroglyph discovered on the rocks of Yin Mountains
http://i56.tinypic.com/10gjxo8.jpg

The scholars interpret the round object above the man as the sun, thus dubbed it “sun worship petroglyph”. But the author says ancient depictions of the sun usually have sun rays whereas the “sun” in the petroglyph from Yin Mountains is just a round object.
“Sun worship” from Chengbeixi culture
http://i54.tinypic.com/wpgzr.jpg

He says the petroglyph is a depiction of worship for Heaven instead of the sun. Ancient oracle bone inscription for heaven was written like “a man with an oversized head/a round object above man” or “horizontal stroke(s) above man”
http://i55.tinypic.com/wrn815.jpg

According to the author, horizontal stroke(s) represent land; the only land that’s above man and visibly round is the moon. According to him, this explanation would make sense to many ancient legends about a heaven which seem to have “physical attributes”.
Whether he is right or wrong, I stumbled upon certain ancient relics
http://i53.tinypic.com/9a39qu.jpg
The ancient pendant is carved to the shape of round, a clear sign of the “round” heaven belief, above the two “immortals” there is a round object, whatever the round object represents I too don’t think it represents the sun, if the “immortals” were interpreted as actual images of ancient visiting ETs rather than the works of imagination (which orthodox Chinese scholars say), then it’s possible the round object is the actual vessel or place where they came from. If combine Apollo 20 discovery and the hollow moon theory which indicate the moon is actually a giant extraterrestrial structure, then it indeed lend weights to the interpretation of the round object in this relic as the moon.

It’s pertinent to add that there are ancient Chinese legends speaking of “celestial rafts”, their size varies, the largest type were called “the boat hanging among the stars” or “the boat going to the moon”, the name seem to indicate they are spaceships bounded for the moon. Around 2300 BC, the huge ship would float around China every 12 years during the reign of Yao, the record say they always stop somewhere directly above waters, this attribute of it seem to suggest the Aliens have underwater facilities in both inland seas as well as oceans.

In his book "DEAD MEN'S SECRETS", author Jonathan Gray mentioned the following in chapter 27 under the title "To the moon and beyond? WERE WE ON THE MOON IN
2309 B.C.?"

“A story from this same period states that an enormous ship appeared on the sea at night with brilliant lights which were extinguished during the day. It could also sail to the moon and the stars, hence its name, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ or ‘the boat to the moon’”

This piece of information is found in the Shi yi ji (record of gleanings). In the book, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ is called gua xing cha (literally gua=hanging; xing=stars; cha=raft), ‘the boat to the moon’ is called guan yue cha (guan=to be linked together; yue=moon).

Here is the translation of the original passage:
“Thirty years after Yao became the sovereign, there was an enormous raft floating over the western sea, the raft has lights that shine at night which were extinguished during the day, people nearby saw the lights, waning and waxing, like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing, the raft would float routinely over the four seas, twelve years a cycle, cycle after cycle, the name for it is guan yue cha or gua xing cha, the feathered men live aboard it, the celestials gargle their nectar, the light of the sun and the moon becomes dim. There were no more recount of its appearance since the era of Yu and Xia dynasty, those who travel to the seas can still hear the incredible of it”

This is one of the surviving accounts of the mysterious “celestial rafts” mentioned in ancient Chinese texts. Such tales are often simply regarded as the works of imagination (novelist’s inventions) by orthodox scholars. However the author of Shi Yi Ji, Wang Jia (?-390AD) according to history records was a Taoist scholar who lived a secluded life on mountains, he is good at making prophetic remarks, because of such skill, he was sought after by various invading nomadic rulers and enjoyed fame among nobilities despite the fact he was forced to serve the ruling court after his previous refusals. Wang Jia was not a “novelist”; “short-novel” as orthodox scholars would call them doesn’t fit well with some tales found in the Shi Yi Ji, since things like the description of a Volcano and its eruption doesn’t seem to be the work of imagination at all. Granted, most of the tales and objects mentioned in the Shi Yi Ji seem strange indeed.

According to Shi Yi Ji, this ship appeared at the “Western sea”, the ancient name for Qinghai Lake in today’s Qinghai province, during the legendary ruler Yao’s reign, presumably around 2300 BC. The description “like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing” is both describing different effect of the lights as well as the size of the ship, which gives the observer the impression that there was a chunk of sky over the lake, thus the definition “enormous”. It seems such observation is made some distance away from the ship.

The wreck of that gigantic spaceship discovered by Apollo mission on the moon rather fits the profile of the enormous raft recorded in the Shi Yi Ji.
http://i53.tinypic.com/2v61s.gif

The term “four seas” in ancient texts may describe China itself or the boundaries of China as defined by certain waters to the four directions, therefore “Western sea” would be the westernmost definition of the “four seas”. This enormous ship would appear periodically around China, and according to the name given to it, it was a space ship bounded for the moon.

Then Shi Yi Ji goes on describing the scenes onboard, the ship is where winged celestials (feathered men) live who drink nectar instead of eating grains so they are immortal. Why would the “light of the sun and moon becomes dim”? Since the name suggesting it to be a spaceship, it’s easier to apprehend the fact the view of the sun and moon would be different from the view of them on the ground, this must have left impression for the observer whoever passed down this tale, that he must be a mortal whom for whatever reasons was allowed to board the ship for immortals.

Other records of “celestial raft” show there were some going on between man and ETs during other times.

Authored by a Western Jin dynasty writer and official Zhang Hua(232-300 AD) ,the "Bo wu zhi"(record of natural science) recount the story of the Xian Cha (celestial raft): "It is said, once upon a time the Milky Way and the sea were connected, in recent time there were people live at the seashore, every year in the August the floating raft would arrive and leave on time, there was a man with high aspiration, tall pavilions are set up on the raft, with abundant supplies, the man boarded the raft and left. For more than 10 days, stars, the moon, the sun passed by as he observed them, afterwards, the vastness made him indistinguishable of the nights and days. Another 10 days of travel, he suddenly arrived at a place where he saw many buildings which look like a city, from distance he saw weaving women in the palace, he saw a man with an Ox drinking at the waterside. Surprised, the Cowherd asked him "how did you get here?” he explained himself and asked the cowherd "what is this place?” the cowherd replied "return to visit Yan jun ping in the prefecture of Shu for answer", therefore he returned without landing. Thereafter a visit was paid to jun ping in the prefecture of Shu (today's Sichuan province of China), he told him that "there was a guest star violating the constellation Qianniu", and that's when the man paid the visit to the Milky Way"

The Song dynasty work "Tai ping guang ji"(Extensive Records of the Taiping Era) is a collection of things stretching a period from the Han dynasty(206 BC- 220 AD) to the Song dynasty(960-1279 AD), citing "Dong tian ji" it says "The Yan Zun(the same person as Yan jun ping in "Bo wu zhi") 'Xian Cha' was placed in the Linde palace of the Tang dynasty (618-907 AD), it is a metal object with the length of more than fifty chi (the measure of chi is different for different dynasties, it is 1chi=27.65cm during the Qin-Han period; 1chi=31.1cm during the Tang dynasty; 1chi=30.72cm during the Song dynasty, thus making the 'Xian Cha of Yan Zun' at least 15 meters long), its hard and it does not corrode. Li deyu (787-850 AD, Tang prime minister) cut thin branch of more than 1 chi, carved an image which often flies away and returns, it disappeared since the era of Guangming (reign of emperor Xizong of Tang dynasty), the raft then flew away as well."
Interestingly, like Wang Jia, Yan Jun Ping was also a Taoist scholar.

Maybe that’s why the female alien body recovered by Apollo mission resembles “Asiatic/Mongoloid”?
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The Apollo 20 is still debated, but here is a twist to its validity

The official website of Chinese lunar exploration program (CLEP) recently (08/12/09) cited an article discussing the possibility of the secret mission conducted by America's Apollo 20 lunar mission, titled "Did the Apollo 20 find the wreckage of a gigantic spaceship on the Moon?"

http://210.82.31.82/index.asp?modeln...000&recno=1644

Cited images by the article,
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It’s interesting that the Chinese government branch for lunar mission is actually interested in some conspiracy story.

What this demonstrates i believe is that the Chinese know that something "artificial" exist on the moon after their first lunar orbiter Chang'e 1 finished surveying the moon.

This is the only logical explanation for the puzzle why should a genuine government branch like the CLEP be bothered to have this "conspiracy crap" on their website at all?

But this is not the only interesting "anomalies" i notice from the Chinese.

Shortly after the 60th anniversary of the founding of PRC, the PLAAF celebrated its own 60th anniversary on 6th November during which the commander of the PLAAF Xu Qiliang made a speech to audiences including foreign military guests in which the following speech is particularly interesting to me

"The story of Chang'e is well-known to the Chinese, for hundreds of years the Chinese have celebrated the Moon Festival during which they wish for peace and prosperity. I think if Armstrong knew this story, he would possibly pay a visit to the Moon palace"

Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.