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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    If you think you live on the 'land of the free' and in a real 'Democracy' then go out with a Russian flag and yell "Slava Russiya!" on every stop and see what happens. Or if you have a business place a Russian flag on your window along with a sign that says "We support Russia"

    If you feel that would be a bad choice that puts your business and you/your family in danger, then you have answered yourself this question "Do i live on the free world and in a real democratic society?"



    I am often quite shocked and in bare refusal of prevalent human mentality realizing we still live in age of racism that I’ve only read of in travel books in my childhood and thought of it as nonexistent and wiped out by decades of decolonization , education and presumed intelligence in work,
    however even today’s “western media” is full of racial slur and bias and so called “eastern media” (of presumably opposing ideology) copies the trend and follows it on simple grass roots level of instruction and indoctrination ,
    from coast to coast, narcissist obsession with white beauty, body culture and good looking humans,
    but, but , but ..

    It all is based in atheism , agnosticism and Marxism en core,
    today’s business operatives just renamed and re-coded the scheme above so it could not be read by the masses so easily,
    the whole trickery of trade and tourist industry and social schemes that do not work to be replaced with social credit and loyalty to the hierarchy . No matter what hierarchy but you have to bow low to show you are still willing.


    If there is one single point and reason for bad wars like this I dare to say it was the truth - series of - that had to be trashed and pronounced - else those running the show would drown in the soap water of treasons and theatrical lies and performances they conducted t “in the name of peace and democracy” in front of our eyes.

    As if they were the dumbest of us, they’re forever condemned to mental and verbal gimmicks and prohibited from own evolution, in truth they’re stuck in their paradigms ,
    from Israel to Japan to Papua New Guinea,

    amidst all the digital chaos I am shocked to see how barbarian and primitive some people and their methods ..


    I say to my friends , this “place” is a Planet. It’s not a country for Gods sake.

    “You can’t own Life. Life owns and rules only itself , decides about itself , Life is studied but not “well known” through out the Universe, it’s intelligent and unique ..”


    tThese wars are racial and “gene wars”, paradoxically enough and if we strip them all to “Adam and Eve”, in Ukraine now they’re fanatically fighting against a lineage of mitochondrial DNA that once gave birth to”Ukrainians” ,
    if any of those fighters went back to school instead, and money was spent on their education instead these stupid wars would vanish like May flowers.



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    Oh no...

    As said before, the UN is nowhere to be found, no one is able to take a step and go look into the allegations. Instead, they are sitting calmly waiting for the evidence to be burned and deleted, then they will go and say "we found nothing", wait for it once they get the green light to go and 'research'
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    Quote 💬 #Zakharova: We confirm facts revealed during the special military operation in Ukraine, which prove that the Kiev regime has been destroying the evidence of military biological programmes Kiev was implementing. They were funded by the US Department of Defence.

    We remember how they have been searching for chemical, biological or bacteriological weapons across the globe for years, with exceptional bloody efficacy, invading countries and killing people. Well, you have been searching in all the wrong places. We have found them for you. Your projects, your biological samples, including those for military purposes in the first place, are in Ukraine. What were you doing there? It's a different continent. No common borders. No US bases. What were your specialists doing then under the guise of scientific developments, giving regular instructions to the Ukrainian side?

    The world has the right to know what they were going to make there, what their purpose was. The game is over.

    (excerpt from 09.03 spox briefing)
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    Quote 💬 Opinion by Maria #Zakharova

    Ukraine’s biolabs were funded by the Pentagon to develop biological weapons. These labs in Ukraine were subordinate to the Health Ministry.

    In the summer of 2016, Barack Obama’s Democrat administration sent US national Ulyana Suprun (born and raised in the US) to Ukraine, where she became Health Minister of Ukraine.

    Ulyana Suprun’s father, George Harry Jurkiw, is a retired vice-president of North American Controls Inc, a defence industry corporation.

    Ulyana Suprun’s grandfather, Ivan Jurkiw, was a corporal in the independent army of Ukraine in 1919. There are reports that in WWII he was a member of Bandera units and took part in combat and sabotage missions against Soviet troops in the Carpathian Mountains.

    Ulyana Suprun’s husband, Marco Suprun, is a Canadian propagandist and producer. He is notorious for his contacts with ultra-right activists in Ukraine.

    This is just one instance that illustrates how demilitarisation is connected with deNAZIfication.
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    For anyone falling for the fallacy of "but Russia did bad things to Ukraine 100 and more years ago", which is used a lot as an excuse for Nazi army existing in Ukraine, let me remind you of what Germany, Italy and Japan did in WW2 to other nations

    By that ideology (that a country must be completely cancelled and the culture removed from human history, as we see now) then Germany, Italy and Japan should be immediately removed from the world and their cultures cancelled as well.

    Don't be fooled, if you were to be questioned about why Germany still exists as a country and culture you would say "they are not the same people as back then", and will you realise how dumb the current judgment is against Russian people who were not born mostly until 30/40 years ago or less?

    "They are not the same people, those people who did those things died long ago", And now think


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    ‘UKRAINE ON FIRE’ (2016) – DOCUMENTARY BY OLIVER STONE
    March 9, 2022
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/ukr...-oliver-stone/

    "A few days ago, YouTube removed the 2016 documentary, ‘Ukraine on Fire’, because it had suddenly violated their Terms of Service against “violent or graphic content”, despite being posted on the platform for over four years.

    Executive Produced by Oliver Stone and directed by Igor Lopatonok, this important documentary tells the story that Westerners never got to see on the Mainstream Media, taking a deep dive into how the peaceful Kyiv protests in February 2014 mysteriously became violent and deadly, to become known as the “2014 Revolution of Dignity”.

    Academy-Award-winner Stone was unable to find a Western distributor. His interviews, first with former President Viktor Yanukovych then Vladimir Putin and others start at the 25:30 mark.

    The post-Soviet 1990s saw the rise of corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs who absconded with state assets, leading to “Color Revolutions” in 2004 and 2014, culminating in the US-backed installation of Ukraine’s current regime.

    Looking at the past 18 years, I see how my beliefs, for example about pro-Western former Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko were completely manipulated by the US State Department – the former employer of his Chicago-born wife.

    Some may recall that Yushchenko survived an assassination attempt from dioxin poisoning in 2004 and he had thus gained my sympathy – until I learned here that he’d elevated WWII Ukrainian Nazi leader, Stepan Bandera to the status of National Hero in 2010, a move which was internationally condemned and overturned by a Donetsk court a year later.Ukraine on Fire’ is the kind of rare gem that’s becoming harder to find. If you’re interested in continuing your education about this topic, there is also the important 2019 follow-up film by the same team, ‘Revealing Ukraine’.Ukraine on Fire’ is the kind of rare gem that’s becoming harder to find. If you’re interested in continuing your education about this topic, there is also the important 2019 follow-up film by the same team, ‘Revealing Ukraine’.
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/rev...-ukraine-2019/


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    Revealing Ukraine
    3/9/22
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/rev...-ukraine-2019/


    "'Revealing Ukraine' by Igor Lopatonok continues investigations on of the ongoing Ukrainian crisis following Oliver Stone’s “Ukraine on Fire”. In addition, it analyzes the current political backstage and its dangerous potential for the world."


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    Let's leave out for a moment she tried to say "Slava Ukraine" which is a Nazi slogan, instead let's focus on what she actually said: "Slava Wuhan" and president "Kerensky".

    Do they even care about his actual name? And was that a freudian slip in front of the entire world? Wuhan... bats, corona-chan, bio research, illegal labs in Ukraine and across the world.... research into how to use birds to distribute illnesses...

    Watch the video on telegram
    https://t.me/russia/3699

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    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Do you really believe that shaberon?

    Do you also believe 19 hijackers hijacked four planes on 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan planned the operation?

    Yes, I believe there was something of a critical failure, along the lines of a stand-down order and a "similar wargame" that happened to be taking place. I think there was a lot of compartmentalized knowledge, the cream of which may have been in the hands of people previously dumping airline stocks. There happened to be nobody who was looking after regular things, like, for instance, safety. "Intentional betrayal" is just another way that things fail to work right.

    No, of course I don't think the F. B. I. was really on to something and made a minor mistake by scheduling a sting for 9/12.

    As far as I know, Osama bin Laden was surprised by the whole thing.

    If I am allowed to say that maybe a president spoke the truth one time, Bush was probably correct in saying that whoever flew those airliners, multiple, had major skills. That is probably more true than someone with a few hours in a crop duster doing it.

    DHS was something like a Covid vaccine, an opportunist waiting for the right moment to do a cash grab.

    "Intelligence failure" has a million meanings at that time. But only two for DHS--January 6! How simple! It doesn't have to go unsolved, we could just get rid of it.

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    This just in.

    Due to the assassination of two Iranians, missiles have pelted the U. S. Base in Erbil. Suggestions are they were shooting at the Mossad there, i. e., the perpetrators.

    Now we do have a thread for this which took a "Covid time-out", during a time period when these foreigners were told to depart from the middle east and they said they would. Pause button is off.

    For the time being there is almost "nothing to see" in Ukraine because you know that Russia is going to slowly, steadily advance, and, the people of India will be happy to tell us that is about all that is going on. Nothing like the "other stories" is remotely the case.

    Instead, we have about 36 hours left to play "scruples" to figure if the United Nations can actually do the right thing, or, if that too will get dismantled because no one will agree to participate any more.

    Here is a great project for someone who has the time to teach a history course. All you have to do is scrounge up a handful of twenty-first century U. S. political quotes and define them as the "worst possible examples" or just "failure", and show why. This one will be easy! Just gather the statements made about the recent allegation, and, attach it to whatever becomes historical from this...the U. S., the U. N., Ukraine, or whatever else may happen to get lopped off.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Do you really believe that shaberon?

    Do you also believe 19 hijackers hijacked four planes on 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan planned the operation?

    Yes, I believe there was something of a critical failure, along the lines of a stand-down order and a "similar wargame" that happened to be taking place. I think there was a lot of compartmentalized knowledge, the cream of which may have been in the hands of people previously dumping airline stocks. There happened to be nobody who was looking after regular things, like, for instance, safety. "Intentional betrayal" is just another way that things fail to work right.
    To me those two things 'critical failure' and 'stand-down order' are mutually exclusive, ie. it has to be one or the other.
    I don't think there were ANY major failures on 9/11. I believe all went to plan basically, with the exception perhaps of Shanksville.

    Yes of course there were stand-down orders and war games, all intentional to cause confusion.
    But confusion is totally different from 'critical failure'.

    Quote As far as I know, Osama bin Laden was surprised by the whole thing.
    Yes quite!

    Quote If I am allowed to say that maybe a president spoke the truth one time, Bush was probably correct in saying that whoever flew those airliners, multiple, had major skills. That is probably more true than someone with a few hours in a crop duster doing it.
    You're allowed to say anything you like.
    But I disagree with your assessment, on a technicality.
    Bush was implying the someone flew the planes, thus "whoever".
    I don't think any person flew the planes that crashed.

    If he had said "Whatever flew those airliners had major skills." I would have agreed with him.
    Or even "Whoever flew those airliners remotely had major skills." I would have agreed with him.

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    Will people believe this lie, just as they did back in Syria?

    + "We are winning, time to kill some people for no reason at all, this should turn us back and destroy our progress"
    - But Sr, let's not kill those people, we are winning!
    + No, let's kill them, ho ho ho ho ho! I'm an evil caricature dictator and i need to kill people, that'll show them!

    It worked back there in Syria, people fell for it, i wonder now

    https://t.me/realCRP/3645


    Every time the fake freedom fighters are losing, the "dictator" has a sudden need to gas people all over the winning ground, for no reason at all. This is comical if it wasn't true that people may die to push this stupid/naive/childish/retarded narrative that people eat up like while eating their morning cereal
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    After a warning by Russia about some statements made by the US, a signal has been sent through an attack of a NATO "hidden base on Ukraine", in which Azov and Aidar Nazi forces were being trained since long ago. The base was completely decimated

    Message was "We know where your bases are, even if those are obfuscated and not declared". The base had been there for years, training Azov and other Nazi groups

    Video uploaded by Ukrainian forces. The air defences were unable to stop the missiles, they can just stand and watch as death passes them through

    This is not a "bragging" video or post, this is a post to let you know that the stuff happening out there is not being told the way it happens, and that terrible things can just happen in a matter of minutes, without anyone being able to do anything about it. Because that's how war truly is, not just a "we are the best!" lamentable and idiotic cry from both sides. Death has no winners

    It was as simple as that, the US made some statements about providing more weapons, then Russia made another statement about that being a bad choice, then it sent a 'sample'. People die when the top levels posture stupid postures







    Anyone who has been at war knows this feeling and thought: "Today we didn't die"

    NOTE: Images and Video provided by Ukrainian forces

    ETA: This base was on Lviv, on the very western side of Ukraine, all across the country. It took around 10/15 minutes to reach it and completely obliterate it. All the way back from Russia, without any single soldier being remotely around the Ukrainian west. Distances matter nothing these days

    This is so dumb, a pointless war, but being pushed hard for private gains. It is clear this is not a real war, it is a sacrifice!

    No one in the Ukrainian side can stop this madness by now, they are not in control anymore
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    To continue to reject the press and politicians, the world of music really shows that the people are on both sides, and there are no sides. These guys really do give charity to poor Russian villages. Partly in the Russian language, from Germany:



    Udo Dirkschneider

    Poezd Po Rossii

    (Trainride in Russia) (2004)







    Fan reply:

    2 years ago
    Dear Russians, we Germans love you! Even though our politicians treat you unfairly...



    Russian bands are incredible. They sing in Russian, it's a sound, you don't have to understand it. In fact it might be good to quit worrying about understanding something for a moment. This first chick gives me shivers and they are actually named for the national epic of Finland:


    Kalevala - Nagryanuli (2015)






    This one almost entirely sings the Irish Tuatha de Danan:

    Fferyllt - 'Yule'






    We are in Turkey, Iraq, China...many millions out there who I can promise you are against conflicts and bigotry.

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    Dear Avalon,


    you are witnessing a psyop unfold in real time. Only here! This one is called "I honeypot DaveToo".

    Look how good this works:

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    To me those two things 'critical failure' and 'stand-down order' are mutually exclusive, ie. it has to be one or the other.
    I don't think there were ANY major failures on 9/11. I believe all went to plan basically, with the exception perhaps of Shanksville.

    Because why? I make some general offhand remark that could easily be misinterpreted, and he picks it for further details. This is the kind of thing that is supposed to happen. Notice the lack of knee-jerk reaction on his part, or any suggestions that I am dumb or working for somebody, or am, in fact, myself, a goon.

    The Shanksville crash was very unusual, so that was weird.

    The "plan" I heard was that Building Seven had collapsed an hour before it actually did. It was full of evidence.

    The Office of Naval Intelligence, if anything, would be the agency that would most directly revert to working "for the people" in the event of a legitimate political system ever taking place, and, it, too, seems to have gone missing quite surgically.

    Everything else is perhaps window dressing.




    Quote You're allowed to say anything you like.
    But I disagree with your assessment, on a technicality.
    Bush was implying the someone flew the planes, thus "whoever".
    I don't think any person flew the planes that crashed.

    If he had said "Whatever flew those airliners had major skills." I would have agreed with him.
    Or even "Whoever flew those airliners remotely had major skills." I would have agreed with him.

    Right. Might be best if an autopilot had done it. By saying "he, who" etc., Bush is tacitly suggesting that a human trained in a single engine Cessna just, for some reason, was a whole lot better than that.

    I wish he was smoking what I'm smoking.

    I had two allergic reactions when it happened. Something was very wrong about entire buildings being annihilated. If there was some attempt to beguile me, it should have done something realistic, like plane flies into a building and there's a fire. Secondly the explanation about the hijackers was too sure and too fast. These cases are hard and you guys suck!

    Interrogations and most of their assets are based on intimidation factor, when they work on things, they are like doctors, very mechanical.

    So the whole scenario was too Disney to begin with.

    The part about, you could easily tell a hijacker, just take out the pilot and we're going to fly you to...Cancun, I bet you could get thousands of those guys for cheap.

    What Bush said about the trajectory of the airliners was true.


    It would not be the least bit surprising if the Russians have evidence of complicity from the Saudi side, maybe even from other members of the bin Laden family!


    @DaveToo, try to bear with me as I may be stuck in a Surrealist Orwellian mode which sometimes refers to tremendous events as if it were a bit of algae upon the windowsill. Everything seems so deviant compared to the simple fact that most of "all this" seems to have been exposed ever since it started, in a small way, and now it is like it is on full display all the time, and yet here we are with nothing solved, a much worse situation, and more information about it.

    I believe it is relevant because the operations in Afghanistan and Iraq are being parroted as examples of how the operation in Ukraine is less vicious. Those previous plans couldn't possibly have worked. The current one seems unlikely to fail.

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    ETA: REMINDER: Everything you read or hear must be reviewed and validated, don't believe it just out of hope or dislike of any side. "Validate your inputs"

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    When you attack a small nation with guys in sandals with 40+ year old guns for an army to protect then, you feel the king of the world, you chose their destiny with arrogance and fake pride. When you attack the wrong enemy, your empire of lies falls down like a broken paper tower, as can be seen here now


    Quote The US Department of Defense government contract for 2017 provided for the collection of genetic data only from Russia and only the European race

    These data were then processed in laboratories in Ukraine.

    More and more details appear proving that the US was actively developing biological weapons and the main goals for its use are becoming more and more obvious.



    Also see this, this person has nothing to lose, he thinks, but life of soldiers and people he cares nothing about. That's how he acts so "brave" when actually he's unable to act on his words. He is a coward behind a microphone. He will send Ukrainians and other people to die, he cares nothing about them, it's imbecile bravado, and nothing more

    https://t.me/belvestnik/18585
    Quote НАТО будет защищать свой груз с оружием

    Сегодня руководитель НАТО Столтенберг сделал заявление::

    "Если хоть один снаряд, хоть одна пуля попадет в конвой, который они сегодня доставляют в Украину – они будут считать это нарушением пятой статьи (Североатлантического договора), которая есть на сегодняшний день в странах НАТО. Посмотрим, если это произойдет, как они будут реагировать на это".

    --
    NATO will defend its cargo with weapons

    Today, NATO Chief Stoltenberg made a statement::

    "If at least one shell, at least one bullet hits the convoy that they are delivering to Ukraine today– they will consider it a violation of the fifth article (of the North Atlantic Treaty), which exists today in NATO countries. Let's see if this happens, how they will react to it."
    I am wondering now about this:

    On Russia, there have been lots of protests against the war, lots of people went into jail for it. In western countries, i don't see any protests, mostly all toe the line in lock step, an army of zombies that walk without knowing why or where they are heading. Are majority of people in the west just brain done and delivered themselves to the butchers?

    Is the 'cancel culture effect' enough to put the entire western world to sleep and 'wait until it's over'? Do they truly even care at all?

    "If it doesn't happen to me, my family or someone i care for then it doesn't matter" is a real thing now?

    The few who care are not listened, so it seems, and i can see a lot of imbeciles throwing around opinions that make no sense, very much. It's all over the web, as you guys can probably see minute by minute
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    "вооруженная группа украинских националистов из организации "Правый сектор" покинула город Мариуполь до его полного окружения силами ДНР и перебазировалась в одно из сел Запорожской области"

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    Armed group of Ukrainian nationalists from the Right Sector organisation left Mariupol before they were completely encircled by the DPR forces, then relocated one close villages of the Zaporozhye region
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    It's not the same to shoot a kids and civilians than to shoot at a real army, so it seems. So they run and leave behind their posts. This won't be on the news
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    Mainstream media is reporting an attack near a Polish something, looking up more in this. Elements are really looking for an excuse.

    Can't find any other info on it this.

    Dutch Teletext. (Nep Nieuws Omroep Stichting).

    https://nos.nl/teletekst#125

    Quote During a Russian air raid on a
    a military training center in western
    Ukraine has reported 9 dead.
    57 people injured. Dozens of missiles
    reportedly have hit the complex near
    the Polish border.

    The military location, according to
    Ukraine, is used to prepare soldiers for peacekeeping missions. There would also be
    foreign instructors at work there.

    Poland has not yet responded to the
    air raid. An airport has also been attacked.
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    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Mainstream media is reporting an attack near a Polish something, looking up more in this. Elements are really looking for an excuse.

    Can't find any other info on it this.

    Dutch Teletext. (Nep Nieuws Omroep Stichting).

    https://nos.nl/teletekst#125

    Quote During a Russian air raid on a
    a military training center in western
    Ukraine has reported 9 dead.
    57 people injured. Dozens of missiles
    reportedly have hit the complex near
    the Polish border.

    The military location, according to
    Ukraine, is used to prepare soldiers for peacekeeping missions. There would also be
    foreign instructors at work there.

    Poland has not yet responded to the
    air raid. An airport has also been attacked.
    It is this, posted it earlier

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1488132

    Around 60 elements death, some of them NATO training personal and some of them Ukrainian, also some of them foreigners being trained there
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    Time to turn on the BSmeter



    You can tell this is a government paid for zombie because of this:

    The use of western '&'

    And "Close the sky"

    These were Kalibr missiles, not planes, they flew all across Ukraine and hit the targets without any intervention. "Close the Skies" is dumb, and we know who keeps asking for it non-stop, it's just dumb, as the person opening his mouth to ask for it over and over again

    Explanation: There is no current modern air defence system capable of stoping a Kalibr missile, not even the US Patriot system, which is obsolete by modern standards anyways.

    So "Close the Sky" is meant for planes, not missiles such as the Kalibr, so why ask for that? It's none sense, as proven today, there is no need to send planes to bomb when you can send 6 or so Kalibr missiles instead and have the same effect, and those are unstoppable by any means. Proof of that just here today.. *There were no planes involved in this attack*

    One of the top air planes Ukraine has was shot down from 400 kilometers away by an S-400 missile, it flew more than 400 kilometers and took down the plane... No defence system detected it or was able to stop it

    Air superiority with planes and bombers is a thing of the past, but the dinosaurs are not awake yet about this fact.

    This is so dumb
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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Quote Posted by 9ideon (here)
    Mainstream media is reporting an attack near a Polish something, looking up more in this. Elements are really looking for an excuse.

    Can't find any other info on it this.

    Dutch Teletext. (Nep Nieuws Omroep Stichting).

    https://nos.nl/teletekst#125

    Quote During a Russian air raid on a
    a military training center in western
    Ukraine has reported 9 dead.
    57 people injured. Dozens of missiles
    reportedly have hit the complex near
    the Polish border.

    The military location, according to
    Ukraine, is used to prepare soldiers for peacekeeping missions. There would also be
    foreign instructors at work there.

    Poland has not yet responded to the
    air raid. An airport has also been attacked.
    It is this, posted it earlier

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1488132

    Around 60 elements death, some of them NATO training personal and some of them Ukrainian, also some of them foreigners being trained there
    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    Time to turn on the BSmeter



    You can tell this is a government paid for zombie because of this:

    The use of western &

    And "Close the sky"

    These were Kalibr missiles, not planes, they flew all across Ukraine and hit the targets without any intervention. "Close the Skies" is dumb, and we know who keeps asking for it non-stop, it's just dumb, as the person opening his mouth to ask for it over and over again
    And there is the excuse (Mashika's post) comment, this will run like a whore on crack.

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    Zionism in Ukraine
    Vanessa Beeley / 14 hours ago
    Ukraine: The Zionist Connection
    Source: The Wall Will Fall

    Chris Williamson interviews Prof. David Miller and Lowkey.

    Images from the war in Ukraine have dominated the headlines over the last few weeks. But the Jewish identity of Ukraine’s President Zelensky, has been used by many in the West, to cover NATO’s manifest alliance with Neo-Nazi battalions in the war against Russia. But it’s not just NATO that’s working with these Neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine.

    Israel is arming, and its military personnel are even fighting alongside explicitly Neo-Nazi units The Zionist regime has supplied arms to the Ukraine military including the Nazi Azov battalion which traces its antecedents to Nazi collaborators in the 1939-45 war. Azov Battalion members have been photographed toting Tavor rifles built by Israeli Military Industries a subsidiary of Elbit Systems. In February 2016 it was revealed that Elbit Systems would be part of a group investing in Ukraine’s defense establishment.

    Haaretz newspaper revealed in 2018 that A Ukrainian military training school website indicates that training there is provided by former IDF officers and that its instructors were trained by Israelis… It notes that the school trains units of the National Guard, whose members include Azov militiamen. Odessa in southern Ukraine has been referred to at the ‘Gates of Zion’.

    Both Leon Pinsker founder of ‘Lovers of Zion’ a forerunner of the Zionist movement and the revisionist Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky, hailed from Odessa. Jabotinsky historically supported the Ukrainian nationalists including their leader Symon Petliura. Zionist sources today credit Petliura with responsibility for the deaths of 50,000 Jews in the pogroms in the 1920s. But Jabotinsky maintained that Petliura was not an anti-Semite, even going so far as to state: “When I die, you can write on my grave: ‘This was the person who signed an agreement with Petliura'”

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