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    At a very superficial level, this kinda needs a thread SPAM warning . . . .

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    https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/...65391060581171

    https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/...49990995222536
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    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...32440081129477

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/...50105889411083
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    ~~~

    So I walked through the center of Kharkov.

    The only video I dared take was at the Lviv chocolate shop. I was much more afraid of the Ukrainian police and SBU than I was of Russian bombs. Whenever I saw a car with its license plate taped ov,r (and I saw many such cars, including a Mercedes G wagon), I got very nervous. Any parked van made me cross the street. Any group of people made me nervous. Cheap old cars or lone individuals walking made me feel relaxed and confident. The same with elderly people, whether alone or in pairs or groups. But healthy men in a pair or larger group made me exceedingly nervous. I only saw a couple such groups, but one of the groups I saw—three men, one of them big and beefy with a thick beard—was clearly a group of government goons. As I passed them, I saw that they were armed. They had just stopped to have a cigarette. They ignored me.

    The city is completely empty. I would estimate that barely 10% or less of its inhabitants are still in town.

    I livestreamed the chocolate shop, but I hadn’t noticed that it was unlisted. That’s the default setting. And so when I went live, nobody saw it. I only realized it much later, so I made it public. I have no idea why the sound cut out after 10 seconds.

    I saw a lot of things, and I am taking notes. I need to talk to a military expert who has been in combat, because I saw a lot of things that didn’t seem logical. For instance, the destruction of the chocolate shop itself. I looked around and the other buildings were not damaged, and there was no clear line of sight to some other place where an explosion might have happened and the blast wave hit the chocolate shop. At Freedom Square, where the government building was hit, surrounding buildings had their windows shattered if they were in the line of sight of the original explosion, while other buildings that were not, that were just around the corner, did not suffer any damage.

    So clearly I have to talk to a military man who has been in combat, or at least a demolitions expert. Because I’ve got a lot of questions.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    A historical perspective from 2014.

    The organisations discussed are mostly familiar to us now (corrupt political leaders; the masons; cia; banderovites; the world jewish congress; oligarchs; zionists and chabad) whilst a few others mentioned are less familiar.

    It sounds like a classic recipe for an accident looking for a place to happen.

    "And now this is simply the direct occupation of Ukraine by the US through figureheads" he states.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/vAoM21Hs7Ho7/
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    https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/sta...70818327674882

    https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/sta...70825835442176

    https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/sta...19547566530563
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    https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-701782

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    Ukraine claims more Wagner mercenaries trying to assassinate Zelensky
    By MICHAEL STARR Published: MARCH 20, 2022

    Russian President Vladimir Putin "personally ordered another attack by one of his proxies," Ukraine's Intelligence Directorate claimed.

    More mercenaries connected to the Russian Wagner private military company arrived in Ukraine on Sunday with the objective of assassinating top Ukrainian military and political leadership, Ukraine's Intelligence Directorate claimed on Sun

    The directorate asserted that the main targets of the mercenaries included Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Presidential Chief of Staff Andrii Yermak and Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal.
    Russian President Vladimir Putin "personally ordered another attack by one of his proxies," said the Directorate. "All previous attempts ended in the failure and elimination of terrorists.

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1505671427239907343
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    "Guns, drugs and oil" trafficking behind war. Looting Ukraine has been going on for 30 years.


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    I didn't see this video from the 18th already posted so thought I'd include this. Please delete if this has already been posted

    'Laura Logan - Award Winning Journalist speaks the truth about MSM propoganda on the air on Russia Vs. Ukraine War'

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mikenoor123/...18721018070533

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    Quote Posted by ByTheNorthernSea (here)
    This is a war that should not be happening in the 21st century, whatever it's roots may be...


    Yes it should.


    This is a conflict between civilization and barbarism. The first is partially summarized today by The Saker:



    Orthodox Christians are the sole heirs of the East Roman Empire and it behooves us more than anybody else to recognize the modern day Franks and Crusaders for whom/what they are. To neutral or “opposed to aggression” is not only moral cowardice, it is a negation of our ethos and our collective memory. Christ told us “my Kingdom is not of this world“, and your manic determination to remain in harmony with the secular mainstream of our fallen world is really pathetic.



    And it is a matter of sincerity, moreso than what "label you wear", since he has seen his own "group" subverted by moral laxity:


    All my life I have see FAR more brotherly love, compassion and kindness from atheists, secular Jews and (non-Takfiri!) Muslims than from my putative “brothers”.


    So, yes, it is easy to show that there has always been a type of peaceful civilization that consists of agreements between different ethnicities, such as Orthodox Christians, Jews, and Muslims. The western counterpoints such as Protestantism and Zionism have failed to participate so far. This is not much different from the Europeans getting banned from the Ming Empire. That is self-inflicted for commonsense reasons.



    Allright. In modern terms, "international law" is not exactly what theoretically could or should be delivered by the U. N. and its court system. At the end of the day, it only has a Security Council, where the world's most major militaries attempt to come to terms about why they will attack each other. It is a last straw. And so the actual international law is really made of Treaties. That is because these are signed as valid law by the international participants, at which point they become the basis of internal laws of each of the countries. In the Security Council, an accusation of bioweapons means that the U. S. is accused of being in violation of a Treaty. More ugly facts such as talking your way out of something in the Security Council:


    He called on the Western nations and Ukraine to stop accusing Moscow of propaganda without any grounds. In his words, if they claim that Russia’s information is not true, they should provide evidence to prove their claims. "If you can refute what we have presented, please do it. But stop accusing us without any grounds of indulging in propaganda, because we have shared concrete facts," he stressed.


    Civilization, per say, is collecting hundreds if not thousands of plain facts, but, these cannot go through any normal court process due to the veto power of what is being openly called Empire of Lies. Nothing much will come out of the debate process other than a report. Simultaneously the speaker is saying, well, I am going to continue to use my power to physically destroy this.



    In response to where Bill was going with this, I would say that most Western Treaties suffer the fault of carrying the seeds of their own destruction. This has two reasons. Either the laws that are going to be enforced are oppressive against someone who is currently weak, or, the laws are going to be ignored and violated by someone who is currently strong, more or less by design, if anyone really believed the U. S. would quit pursuing bioweapons just because it was the law, well, sorry about that.

    Moreover, there are real examples of structured peace. One lasted for about forty years during the reign of Franz Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary. Another is the Iroquois Confederation which settled lasting disputes between Native Americans, and became the model for the U. S. Constitution. But there are not many others in western history. The Treaty of Westphalia 1648 might have been allright if there was ever a chance to follow it. In a more recent sense, if you study the treaties pursuant to World War I, it becomes startlingly clear how this operates, or fails to work.


    There is a fundamental culture clash going on, in which case I would have to say that the Roman-derived side has not yet emerged as a faction that follows any particular guidelines for peace, so badly, that it does not have a status as a legitimate player at the table of treaties and other international exchange, which, itself, has been functional in some way or another for a long time. This is not a personal opinion or some notion. It is very demonstrable by for example the Silk Road which probably never made it much further west than Constantinople. During this time, Rome was destroying all the native Greek and European cultures, and so of course it is understood that it is the people in power who are really to blame.

    I saw an interesting suggestion recently for a law to prohibit persons from the Ivy League and Oxford/Cambridge from holding public office. That actually does resemble the Turkish solution. One would tend to doubt it could be enacted at this time, but, the idea is clearly along the lines of the same point. Western institutions and the mentality that spawns them are a failure.


    I am not a crusader so I won't be going around putting a gun at anyone's head, but, I would strongly suggest you all surrender yourselves to either the Orthodox Church or to the Mahayana Buddhists very soon. Both are open doors to what is being called civilization here. If the west could be "cleaned out" by something like this, it might be entitled to an opinion at the "international table", but currently it has excommunicated itself for a second time.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    If people want to see why someone would go pick a gun and shoot at other people, go to this twitter account and review all the posts

    Or report it if you are so soul weak that you want it to go away so that it doesn't disturb "peace".

    Peace won't come if you make the news talk about nice things only, we know that. Looking the other way won't change the fate and suffering of the people living out there. Just the same as not wanting to know about the suffering of others because, as someone said some time ago "it lowers my frequencies". Well let me tell you that ignoring the suffering of others is the main reason that your "frequencies" are lower than most other people that care

    Here's a twitter account that is documenting all the human abuse the Ukrainian army is causing, this is not showing the murders or rapes, just what can be considered legal to publish in public without getting the account deleted. Still it seems they have received reports of people reporting the account in an attempt to remove it because it doesn't play nice with the propaganda and narrative, it shows truths that are unacceptable for the brainwashed masses

    Go to this channel and start looking, then keep looking, and then keep looking more and more and don't stop until you understand that this is not "one single ocassion" or just some people here and there doing bad stuff, this is how they are, this is accepted as normal and people who agree with them are equally as bad, don't stop looking because it makes your day bitter or gloomy, those people out there are having it way worse, and it has been going on for too long and staying silent about it will only make this suffering go much more longer

    https://twitter.com/Youblacksoul

    Apologists will find it hard to explain why there's a kid tied to a pole here just because his dad was 'pro-russian', whatever that means these days (you can be pro-russian just because you decided you don't want to pick up a rifle with only 10 rounds, no armor and no help and then go get yourself killed so Zelensky can claim civilians are brave and heroes and dying in tremendous numbers in the hands of evil russians)



    Make of any information here on this thread whatever you want to make. Have some critical judgment but always make sure to not look away, it just allows them to go do their crimes without any repercussions. And that's not ok, in any way or form, ever

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    Let me explain it other way

    For people like Zelensky, "peace" means "we have completely cleansed them out of this world, so now no one opposes our will and they are gone, now we are 'in peace' because they are all dead and the land is ours and we have no enemies (people we don't like) around"

    If that's what peace means, to completely kill an entire culture and country so you can be as nasty as you want without any repercussions, then peace is impossible.

    Zelensky is such an ignorant person, and so full of himself that he forgot the past, or maybe he doesn't even know about Urakines past at all. It reminds me of the vice-president of the US going to insult the Vietnam people some time ago, thinking her "exceptionalism" allowed to insult the very same people she was talking in front of, how embarrassing that was. She did not know about the Vietnam/US past one single bit

    It is clear they want to portray Ukraine as the new Israel of the world, they even called Ukraine at some point "the new leader of democracy" or something on those lines, and he continually speaks as if the entire western world owed something to Ukraine so big that they deserve to be immediately given anything they ask for, regardless of the consequences. So, since when the entire western world has bowed down to Ukraine and is laying at the feet of Zelensky? Because that's how he acts with his demands

    "Zelensky strikes the wrong note to bring Knesset to his side - analysis"
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/po...article-701850
    Quote Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s virtual tour of Western parliaments has gone off mostly without a hitch. He referenced Winston Churchill to Westminster and Martin Luther King Jr. to Capitol Hill. The Ukrainian-to-English translator in Brussels broke down in tears translating his plea for help.

    Zelensky continued his practice of customizing his speeches to suit his audience when he addressed the Knesset over Zoom, taking the comparisons he had already made between his country’s situation and World War II to the next level and dedicating the lion’s share of his speech to the Holocaust.

    That comparison did not have the effect Zelensky apparently had hoped for.

    Rather than stir Israel’s leaders and legislators to action and solidarity, the heavy Holocaust comparisons – from saying Moscow is planning a “final solution for the Ukrainian question” to saying that Israel should save Ukrainians like Ukrainian Righteous Among the Nations saved Jews – drew more focus from its audience, which criticized its inappropriateness, than Zelensky’s appeal for weapons.

    “I appreciate the President of Ukraine and support the Ukrainian people in heart and deed, but it is impossible to rewrite the terrible history of the Holocaust,” Communications Minister Yoaz Hendel tweeted. “Genocide was also committed on Ukrainian soil. The war is terrible, but the comparison to the horrors of the Holocaust and the final solution is outrageous.

    Asked about the tweet, Hendel said that he did not judge Zelensky’s behavior in a time of crisis, and he accepted Zelensky’s criticism of Israel and calls for Jerusalem to send weapons, but he felt he had to set the historical record straight.

    Former cabinet minister Yuval Steinitz, now a Likud MK, went so far as to say, “If Zelensky’s speech was given... in normal [non-war] times, we would have said it bordered on Holocaust denial... Every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it may be, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution, is a total distortion of history. The same is true for the claim that Ukrainians helped Jews in the Holocaust... The historic truth is that the Ukrainian people cannot be proud of its behavior in the Holocaust of the Jews.”

    “None of that changes the fact that despite the outrageous use of the Holocaust, we must continue humanitarian aid to the citizens of Ukraine suffering from the war and pray for its end to come soon,” he added.

    Religious Zionist MK Simcha Rothman took issue with Zelensky’s reference to Ukrainians who saved Jews and tweeted: “I don’t understand Ukrainian, but if the translation I heard is accurate, Zelensky asked us to treat the Ukrainians like they treated us 80 years ago. I’m sorry, but I think we will have to reject that request. We are, after all, a moral nation.”

    Israelis know the history of the Holocaust very well. The Ukrainian Auxiliary Police rounded up Jews to be massacred in Babyn Yar, Lviv and Zhytomyr. About 80,000 Ukrainians volunteered for the SS, compared with 2,600 Ukrainians documented as having saved Jews. And before that, some of the worst pogroms in Jewish history were perpetrated in what is now Ukraine.
    Make of this whatever you want, as i said, but think fast and think smart, because with every day that passes, more and more people are killed and not accounted by the UN because they need to fabricate a reality that plays along with the fake narrative. The evidence is very easy to find. Very few people, in the global sense, are looking for it, and it will fade away and allow a giant crime against humanity to go along as if nothing happened at all.

    How can there be peace for the people living and suffering this? The west is not the center of the world
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Back in 2014, we knew about this and plenty more, no one was talking about it, no one did anything, people died by the hundreds per day and nothing came out on the news

    "Is not your fight" we were told

    "Is not your fight" i'm still told

    Who's fight it is, then?

    Maybe this is acceptable?

    - Don't read the news, if you don't know about it then you can't feel bad or care
    - Let them die, someone else will fix it, you just go on with your daily life and be happy
    - I'm sure someone will take care of it


    No wonder "who if not us" remains valid

    That's why kids had to go do something about it, because no one else did

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    Quote Posted by ByTheNorthernSea (here)
    Last - again addressed to anyone reading this - most don't want this conflict, and if you do, then I'd say you belong in a different time, a different era...if / when you finally return there (sooner rather than later I'd hope), then please close the door behind you, don't ever return, and allow the rest of us to live our lives in peace... finally....


    I'm sorry but this is such as simplistic black and white view of reality that it's almost criminal

    If you are a 14 year old kid sitting at home watching netflix or whatever, and then the ukronazis come and say "we detained your parents and are here to collect your sister" and then they see she's pretty and rape her in front of you and tell you to don't say anything and beat the hell out of you for trying to stop them, then they come back two days later and say "your parents are dead, join us into the army or you will die too" and again rape your sister and say "we'll come back in two days for you, get your stuff together"

    Do you run away from town, and get killed on the way out?

    What if they come back earlier and say "were' taking your sister with us to the barracks, she is going to live with us now"

    What do you do? Tell them to keep coming to rape her and not make too much noise because you are watching Netflix in the leaving room?

    So yes, some people will want war, they can't avoid it, they need to so something about it

    Quote please close the door behind you, don't ever return, and allow the rest of us to live our lives in peace... finally....
    Maybe their suffering and total in-progress spiritual destruction is something you would not like to see because it doesn't make your day shiny, but that person is dying inside and in terrible pain that can't be cured by "smile and your day will be better", that person will go look for retaliation and you basically saying "take your absurd need to release that pain and take revenge and disappear from my world because i don't care about your reasons, go away"

    I don't think you understand the full extent of your reasoning and words, as posted here. In fact, you cause more division through them that the supposed 'peace' you talk about

    I'm sorry but this is in no way a true hope for peace, this is a hope for you to not be bothered with having to learn about other people's suffering, it's more like "go suffer and die somewhere else where i can't see you"

    And that's truly sad and depressing. I'm very truly sorry and sad you said those things, without considering the pain of those people out there. I don't get it, never been able to get it

    Very honestly
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    Thank you Malisa for your talk. I have been dismayed to see that the media corruption you detail is alive and well in Canada. I value reporting such as yours, and I hope that many more people will wake up and seek out ‘the other side of the story’.

    The story of the Israeli response is both funny and profound. Am not a great fan of their government, but I appreciate them being abrupt and blunt in this matter. The Israelis know as much as anybody about what the Ukrainian situation is made out of.

    On the profound side, the messing with meaning of words thing is a big modern problem. To my knowledge, this is the first time that that devious tactic has been pounced on and ridiculed right at the start. Good for the Knesset.

    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)

    "Zelensky strikes the wrong note to bring Knesset to his side - analysis"
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/po...article-701850
    Quote Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s virtual tour of Western parliaments has gone off mostly without a hitch. He referenced Winston Churchill to Westminster and Martin Luther King Jr. to Capitol Hill. The Ukrainian-to-English translator in Brussels broke down in tears translating his plea for help.

    Zelensky continued his practice of customizing his speeches to suit his audience when he addressed the Knesset over Zoom, taking the comparisons he had already made between his country’s situation and World War II to the next level and dedicating the lion’s share of his speech to the Holocaust.

    That comparison did not have the effect Zelensky apparently had hoped for.

    Rather than stir Israel’s leaders and legislators to action and solidarity, the heavy Holocaust comparisons – from saying Moscow is planning a “final solution for the Ukrainian question” to saying that Israel should save Ukrainians like Ukrainian Righteous Among the Nations saved Jews – drew more focus from its audience, which criticized its inappropriateness, than Zelensky’s appeal for weapons.

    “I appreciate the President of Ukraine and support the Ukrainian people in heart and deed, but it is impossible to rewrite the terrible history of the Holocaust,” Communications Minister Yoaz Hendel tweeted. “Genocide was also committed on Ukrainian soil. The war is terrible, but the comparison to the horrors of the Holocaust and the final solution is outrageous.

    Asked about the tweet, Hendel said that he did not judge Zelensky’s behavior in a time of crisis, and he accepted Zelensky’s criticism of Israel and calls for Jerusalem to send weapons, but he felt he had to set the historical record straight.

    Former cabinet minister Yuval Steinitz, now a Likud MK, went so far as to say, “If Zelensky’s speech was given... in normal [non-war] times, we would have said it bordered on Holocaust denial... Every comparison between a regular war, as difficult as it may be, and the extermination of millions of Jews in gas chambers in the framework of the Final Solution, is a total distortion of history. The same is true for the claim that Ukrainians helped Jews in the Holocaust... The historic truth is that the Ukrainian people cannot be proud of its behavior in the Holocaust of the Jews.”

    “None of that changes the fact that despite the outrageous use of the Holocaust, we must continue humanitarian aid to the citizens of Ukraine suffering from the war and pray for its end to come soon,” he added.

    Religious Zionist MK Simcha Rothman took issue with Zelensky’s reference to Ukrainians who saved Jews and tweeted: “I don’t understand Ukrainian, but if the translation I heard is accurate, Zelensky asked us to treat the Ukrainians like they treated us 80 years ago. I’m sorry, but I think we will have to reject that request. We are, after all, a moral nation.”

    Israelis know the history of the Holocaust very well. The Ukrainian Auxiliary Police rounded up Jews to be massacred in Babyn Yar, Lviv and Zhytomyr. About 80,000 Ukrainians volunteered for the SS, compared with 2,600 Ukrainians documented as having saved Jews. And before that, some of the worst pogroms in Jewish history were perpetrated in what is now Ukraine.

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    Back in 2014 and 2015 or so, lots of kids were sent from the Ukrainian side of Donbass and into the "rebel" part, so that they would not be taken away to become indoctrinated nationalists and later join the Azob or other groups

    The parents had to stay behind in the Ukraine controlled said because they could only send the kids. These were kids from 8 to 13 years old

    Those kids did had sometimes family on the other side and went to live there, some others did not and went to live with friends or be adopted into homes on the separatist side, they sometimes had to look for someone to take them in and sometimes there were no people able or willing. Lots, like thousands of those kids, ended up joining the rebel army, with the hope that they would go back and regain control of their homes and towns and be able to live with their parents once again

    This is not "news", this is reality, those kids fought and lots of them died out there on the field, waging war against the Ukrainian army

    Those are people who don't deserve to be here because they are fighting a war? For what reason? Is anyone who picks up a gun immediately someone who doesn't be here or be allowed to be happy anymore?

    I wonder how this reasoning came to be!

    Just recently i saw a video on telegram for a DPR soldier who after almost 8 years finally was able to see their parents again, the town got liberated and she went home and found their parents. After 8 years, she's not a kid anymore, now she's 23 years old i believe, she left as a kid, she returns a woman.

    Does she also has to go "back to where she belongs and don't allow the door to hit her on the way out"? I mean she did fought a war and shot at people when needed and did all those evil things

    This is all wrong, but can only be understood if you have experienced just a bit of it, or think more about it than just plain black and white concepts of good and evil

    He he, lol, and such, i just got reminded of this moment in my life. How little some things have changed
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1475499
    Quote + Hi, I'm Masha!
    - Hey! Hi Masha, i'm xxx, nice to meet you!
    + Same here, want to go grab a coffee before class?
    - Sure! lol i'll introduce you to my friends, you are new here right? No worry let's get you in the group!

    - two months later

    - Hey Masha, someone said you are a war veteran and other terrible things, but your 19, how is that possible? What's going on?
    + I am, sorry i did not think that would matter, it was some time ago, i'm just not on service anymore and i'm just on school again, why do you ask?
    - But.. Did you kill people and all that stuff?
    + I don't understand why do you ask this, we were at war. Soldiers do those things, you know? Did i kill people? Maybe, but i was a soldier at war..
    - But you killed people!
    + I did, i'm sorry if you are troubled, please tell me why
    - I don't know, i thought you were like me, but you kill people! Who are you?
    + Is not like that! please let me explain!
    - I don't know, how i'm going to tell everyone that you kill people! What is this, please don't say anything anymore, i don't feel well, i'll see you later...
    +.......

    Yeah

    I don't "Kill People"


    I'm done for today, see you later!
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    "Is ZELENSKY still in KIEV? New GREEN SCREEN Video Raises Questions About UKRAINE’S President"

    Quote Ukrainian President Zelensky released a new video message in front of what appears to be a green screen, leading some to question whether he is still in Kiev, as has been implied for weeks. In this video, criminal defense lawyer Robert Gouveia reviews some of the evidence. If he did use a green screen, does it matter? Is he still in Kiev? What do you think?
    NOTE: Previously, twice, the Ukrainian parlament had tried to contact Zelensky and been told to go to Lviv, this was reported by the same Ukrainian parlament twice before, then he seems now to be in Poland, but he continually claims to be in Kiev in his office.
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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    "Is ZELENSKY still in KIEV? New GREEN SCREEN Video Raises Questions About UKRAINE’S President"

    {video snipped see #1617 above}

    Quote Ukrainian President Zelensky released a new video message in front of what appears to be a green screen, leading some to question whether he is still in Kiev, as has been implied for weeks. In this video, criminal defense lawyer Robert Gouveia reviews some of the evidence. If he did use a green screen, does it matter? Is he still in Kiev? What do you think?

    NOTE: Previously, twice, the Ukrainian parlament had tried to contact Zelensky and been told to go to Lviv, this was reported by the same Ukrainian parlament twice before, then he seems now to be in Poland, but he continually claims to be in Kiev in his office.

    Many thanks for your posts Malisa... bless you and take care ...

    I doubt very much that Zelensky is still in Kiev or anywhere in Ukraine - probably near enough to be flown back quickly if necessary... Poland? Germany? Maybe flying over to Switzerland sometimes to consult with and wined and dined by the WEF bigwigs - to keep his morale up...?

    I see him as an actor playing the starring roll in the biggest movie of his career...(political thriller...) acting his socks off, reading his scripts, taking direction and has been advised by the costume department to wear khaki green to give the impression of being in the military or closely associated with it - although he isn't and is well away from immediate danger...

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    Quote Posted by Malisa (here)
    "Is ZELENSKY still in KIEV? New GREEN SCREEN Video Raises Questions About UKRAINE’S President"
    Just finished watching this, one of my YouTube subs, came here to post it.

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    Quote Posted by Jill (here)
    I didn't see this video from the 18th already posted so thought I'd include this. Please delete if this has already been posted

    'Laura Logan - Award Winning Journalist speaks the truth about MSM propoganda on the air on Russia Vs. Ukraine War'

    https://www.tiktok.com/@mikenoor123/...18721018070533
    Dang she goes full auto rapid fire truth bombing. lol Never heard of that news site. Apparently they are "right biased" ? Although, is that true? Since anyone who disagrees is getting labeled as some right wing nut. Can't just be a truth seeker.

    I guess when you drag the left way out to looney land, anything reasonable or other is so far away from looney land that it can be labeled far out extreme relative to the extreme nonsense lol.

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