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    Will this help the world?

    https://twitter.com/StAnthonysHS/sta...09937410469899

    https://twitter.com/dank33/status/1506336086812942340


    VATICAN CITY (LifeSiteNews) — After vowing to consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pope Francis has now said he will consecrate ‘humanity’ to the Immaculate Heart.

    This has led to doubts as to whether Friday’s consecration will fulfil the requests the late Sister Lucia dos Santos of Fatima said were made by the Blessed Virgin Mary in 1917 and 1929.


    Following the prayer of the Angelus in St. Peter’s Square on Sunday, Francis said to the crowd: “I invite every community and all the faithful to unite with me on Friday March 25, the Solemnity of the Annunciation, to the Solemn Act of Consecration of humanity, especially Russia and Ukraine, to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, so that she, the Queen of Peace, may help us obtain peace.”

    This differs from the March 15 announcement by the Holy See Press Office which made no mention of “humanity” and said that “Pope Francis will consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary”:

    On Friday 25 March, during the Celebration of Penance at which he will preside at 17.00 in Saint Peter’s Basilica, Pope Francis will consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The same act, on the same day, will be carried out in Fatima by His Eminence Cardinal Krajewski, Apostolic Almoner, as envoy of the Holy Father.

    The March 15 announcement came after an appeal made by the Ukrainian Catholic bishops to Pope Francis to consecrate Russia and Ukraine to the Immaculate Heart of Mary “as requested by the Blessed Virgin in Fatima.”

    (The rest here)
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/po...n-of-humanity/
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    ... Gonzalo's live streaming:

    Why Western Elites Are Stupid, Blind and Amoral




    When ever a "real" commentator/investigator does ultimative "fine tuning"--- always land on the same suspicious group :

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...-Saxon-Mission

    WE all have watching movies about the "rebels" and "patriotic" wars on the Romans from all "Barbaren" tribes that today are the country's

    Europa, just to become themselves like the Romans, first colonial conquerors and now World wide "Imperators" wannabe...USA...

    And who is the BIG ONE "Barbar" today ?

    The normally cozy ... but from 1 month ago piss off Russian Bear...something definitive tickle his Balls...

    But... and this is a huuugee....but!....this time this Barbar got all the cards set full aces!

    Best guns...all the energy resources, food resources and thanks Myopie from "imperators wannabe" now a rocket start for Russian currency...

    And don't forget the most essential: an army full of "real" MEN !!! not that ultimative degenerate West product LGTB wannabe tin soldiers...
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    Various updates here:

    1) Both Gonzalo Lira's livestreams today, posted by Gwin Ru in posts #1699 and #1799, have abruptly disappeared. There may well be a simple reason, but at the time of writing no-one out there seems to know what happened or why.

    2) A concise update from The Saker:

    http://thesaker.is/quick-update-on-t...in-the-ukraine
    The Ukrainians fired a Tochka-U missile at a port where three large landing ship were offloading their freight, the Tochka-U was intercepted by Russian air defenses, but its parts did enough to start a major fire on one of the ships whom the Russians decided to sink in the port to avoid a detonation of the ammo it carried. This is the first Ukrainian strike which we can consider as a major success of the Ukie military.

    Other than that, the major development of the day is Putin’s announcement that Russia would only sell energy to hostile countries in Rubles. Biden is in Europe now to discuss energy and the Polish idea of invade the western Ukraine.

    Here is a pretty decent map of the current situation as found on Telegram:


    3) Col. Douglas Macgregor, one of the most grounded and well-informed voices out there, posted these four brief parts of a 22 March video interview with Judge Andrew Napolitano. I'll not embed the videos, just letting you know they're there if anyone is interested. The content isn't new, but may be a refreshing few minutes of sanity for anyone who needs it.
    1. We've done everything in our Power to bring on conflict
      https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4UCx7P0EU (8 mins)
    2. What does Putin want?
      https://youtube.com/watch?v=nRb0xYzww8Y (4 mins)
    3. How do you see this ending?
      https://youtube.com/watch?v=UecsXAgl618 (4 mins)
    4. It's all about the donors
      https://youtube.com/watch?v=VnnmFPE5GJs (3 mins)

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    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    quote:

    "When you write Pray for Ukraine on the internet you are in fact inviting us to pray for this. This is the Ukraine that Donbass has been fighting since 2014. years. This is Ukraine that has been since 2014. years to date she has killed over 15,000 Russian civilians. This is Ukraine that burned alive Russians. This is Ukraine of the Neo-Nazist Squad "Azov" whose members were during 2014. years in Odessa, a solider with over 80 Russians burned alive in flames. This is Ukraine that covered Kiev with graffiti "Death to the Moskalis". This is Ukraine against which Russia launched an invasion.

    Tell me, are you suffering from cognitive dysfunction or are you just hypocritical when you don't want to see that there have been serious neo-Nazis formations and structures in Ukraine for ten years, supported by the American agenda and armed by the NATO arsenal?

    Who should we pray for? For neo-Nazis in the photo or for the army that comes to erase them from the face of the Earth? For the "Azov" squad or for the Russian army?

    Liberals, multiculturalists, "green", pacifists and feminists - you have entered the letters of shame in history. All your life you talk about antifascism and fight imaginary battles against fictional nazism, but when Russia for the second time in history started a real war against the first nazism you shamelessly stood on the side of nazism, and against Russia".


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    Exactly.

    I would like to add this. Any form of "prayer" that is made by a person who has not cleaned his/her conscience first, and as a consequence cannot identify with sincerity the person she/he wishes to help with his/her prayer, is black magic.

    Such forms of so-called "prayer" inherently condition the help requested from the Divine by a (tacit or expressed) request for the Divine to inflict harm to another, opposing, party. (Which the above quote is referring to.) As that is impossible because the Divine cannot yield to black magic, the request to do harm is bound to backfire karmically on the "praying" person.

    The very fact that the nations where people are asked for such "prayer" pride themselves on their being so "deeply religious" shows the opposite – or shows that their nature is deeply demonic.
    I have to completely disagree with this.

    Prayer in the Christian sense involves the will of God & the submission to the will of God, it's not paganism where you demand an outcome & make a sacrifice.

    Prayer to God is an appeal to his mercy, that he make the conflict as short as possible, with as little suffering as possible with the most just out come that only He can know, not us with out deeply subjective view.

    In short any prayer has to be with the Will of God, otherwise it's self condamnation.
    Probably the most important issue to break as a discussion in this thread so far. And probably won't even make a blip on most readers radar.
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    Russia accuses Hunter Biden of funding Ukrainian biological weapons labs
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...gical-weapons/
    Unsubstantiated claim appears designed to build on negative coverage about president’s son in Right-wing US media
    By Nataliya Vasilyeva, RUSSIA CORRESPONDENT, 24 March 2022



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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Russia accuses Hunter Biden of funding Ukrainian biological weapons labs
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/24/russia-accuses-hunter-biden-funding-ukrainian-biological-weapons
    Unsubstantiated claim appears designed to build on negative coverage about president’s son in Right-wing US media
    By Nataliya Vasilyeva, RUSSIA CORRESPONDENT, 24 March 2022
    Today's Telegraph article is behind a paywall. But here it is, copied from this blog page:

    ~~~
    Russia accuses Hunter Biden of funding Ukrainian biological weapons labs

    Russia on Thursday dragged Hunter Biden into its propaganda about the existence of biological weapons labs in Ukraine, claiming the US president’s son had funded the facilities.

    Moscow has previously alleged that Kyiv has been developing chemical and biological weapons, a claim it has used retroactively to justify the invasion.

    That has raised fears the Kremlin is laying the groundwork to deploy chemical weapons of its own.

    The Russian defence ministry did not provide evidence for its assertion that Mr Biden was involved in funding labs, which appeared designed to build on negative coverage about the president’s son in US Right-wing media.

    Igor Kirillov, the head of radiation, chemical and biological defence at the Russian defence ministry, accused an investment fund run by Hunter Biden of bankrolling “the Pentagon’s biological weapons programme in Ukraine”.

    “The scale of the programme is impressive,” Mr Kirillov told a briefing for state media, naming USAID, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the philanthropist George Soros, Russia’s key bogeyman of the West, among those he said were contributing to the research.

    He quoted unnamed documents uncovered by Moscow that purported to prove “links between US state bodies and Ukrainian biolabs”. The Russian military suggested the fund has up to $2.4 billion at its disposal to run the programme.

    Earlier this week, Joe Biden warned of “clear signs” that Vladimir Putin was plotting a chemical attack in Ukraine as a “false flag” operation.

    The White House has reportedly set up a team of national security officials to make contingency plans in case Russia uses chemical or biological weapons in Ukraine, NBC said earlier this week, quoting a senior administration official.

    A chemical or biological attack would mark a dramatic escalation in the month-long war.

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Quote Posted by Spiral (here)
    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    quote:

    "When you write Pray for Ukraine on the internet you are in fact inviting us to pray for this. This is the Ukraine that Donbass has been fighting since 2014. years. This is Ukraine that has been since 2014. years to date she has killed over 15,000 Russian civilians. This is Ukraine that burned alive Russians. This is Ukraine of the Neo-Nazist Squad "Azov" whose members were during 2014. years in Odessa, a solider with over 80 Russians burned alive in flames. This is Ukraine that covered Kiev with graffiti "Death to the Moskalis". This is Ukraine against which Russia launched an invasion.

    Tell me, are you suffering from cognitive dysfunction or are you just hypocritical when you don't want to see that there have been serious neo-Nazis formations and structures in Ukraine for ten years, supported by the American agenda and armed by the NATO arsenal?

    Who should we pray for? For neo-Nazis in the photo or for the army that comes to erase them from the face of the Earth? For the "Azov" squad or for the Russian army?

    Liberals, multiculturalists, "green", pacifists and feminists - you have entered the letters of shame in history. All your life you talk about antifascism and fight imaginary battles against fictional nazism, but when Russia for the second time in history started a real war against the first nazism you shamelessly stood on the side of nazism, and against Russia".


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    Exactly.

    I would like to add this. Any form of "prayer" that is made by a person who has not cleaned his/her conscience first, and as a consequence cannot identify with sincerity the person she/he wishes to help with his/her prayer, is black magic.

    Such forms of so-called "prayer" inherently condition the help requested from the Divine by a (tacit or expressed) request for the Divine to inflict harm to another, opposing, party. (Which the above quote is referring to.) As that is impossible because the Divine cannot yield to black magic, the request to do harm is bound to backfire karmically on the "praying" person.

    The very fact that the nations where people are asked for such "prayer" pride themselves on their being so "deeply religious" shows the opposite – or shows that their nature is deeply demonic.
    I have to completely disagree with this.

    Prayer in the Christian sense involves the will of God & the submission to the will of God, it's not paganism where you demand an outcome & make a sacrifice.

    Prayer to God is an appeal to his mercy, that he make the conflict as short as possible, with as little suffering as possible with the most just out come that only He can know, not us with out deeply subjective view.

    In short any prayer has to be with the Will of God, otherwise it's self condamnation.
    Probably the most important issue to break as a discussion in this thread so far. And probably won't even make a blip on most readers radar.
    Cheers Norman, it is as much a spiritual battle as it is one with guns, the Russians keep saying so too.

    I'm not great with words & possibly didn't put my point as well as it could have been put, the thing is praying to God is about being closer to God & aligning yourself with his will, you can't just ask Him to smite your enemies lol.

    Black magic is asking a demon to do something & then doing something to pay for that service, which will always be to the askers detriment. You can't ask God to do things against his will, that just not how things work.
    War is when your leaders tell you who the enemy is, revolution is when you work out who the enemy is for yourself.

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    https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/...84249320640515


    British intelligence operative’s involvement in Ukraine crisis signals false flag attacks ahead
    Shadowy UK intel figure Hamish de Bretton-Gordon was at the forefront of chemical weapons deceptions in Syria. Now in Ukraine, he’s up to his old tricks again.

    With Washington and its NATO allies forced to watch from the sidelines as Russia’s military advances across Eastern Ukraine and encircles Kiev, US and British officials have resorted to a troubling tactic that could trigger a massive escalation. Following similar claims by his Secretary of State and ambassador the United Nations, US President Joseph Biden has declared that Russia will pay a “severe price” if it uses chemical weapons in Ukraine.

    The warnings emanating from the Biden administration contain chilling echoes of those issued by the administration of President Barack Obama throughout the US-led dirty war on Syria.

    Almost as soon as Obama implemented his ill-fated “red line” policy vowing an American military response if the Syrian army attacked the Western-backed opposition with chemical weapons, Al Qaeda-aligned opposition factions came forth with claims of mass casualty sarin and chlorine bombings of civilians. The result was a series of US-UK missile strikes on Damascus and a prolonged crisis that nearly triggered the kind of disastrous regime change war that had destabilized Iraq and Libya.

    In each major chemical weapons event, signs of staging and deception by the armed Syrian opposition were present. As a former US ambassador in the Middle East told journalist Charles Glass, “The ‘red line’ was an open invitation to a false-­flag operation.”

    Elements of deception were especially clear in the April 7, 2018 incident in the city of Douma, when an anti-government militia on the brink of defeat claimed civilians had been massacred in a chlorine attack by the Syrian army.

    Veteran inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) found no evidence that the Syrian army had carried out any such attack, however, suggesting the entire incident had been staged to trigger Western intervention. Their report was subsequently censored by organization management, and the inspectors were subjected to a campaign of smears and intimidation.

    Throughout the Syrian conflict, a self-proclaimed “chemical warrior” named Hamish de Bretton-Gordon was intimately involved in numerous chemical weapons deceptions that sustained the war and ratcheted up pressure for Western military intervention.

    This February 24, just moments after Russia’s military entered Ukraine, de Bretton-Gordon surfaced again in British media to claim that Russia was preparing a chemical attack on Ukrainian civilians. He has since demanded that Ukrainians be provided with a guide he wrote called, “How To Survive A Chemical Attack.”
    (Rest is at link)
    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/24/b...ne-false-flag/

    https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/stat...15157003685894
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Various updates here:

    1) Both Gonzalo Lira's livestreams today, posted by Gwin Ru in posts #1699 and #1799, have abruptly disappeared. There may well be a simple reason, but at the time of writing no-one out there seems to know what happened or why.
    [...]
    In the second video, a troll in the live chat got on Gonzalo's nerve to the point Gonzalo lost track of his line of thought and shut down the video after mentioning he will redo the two videos tomorrow.

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    Quote 1) Both Gonzalo Lira's livestreams today, posted by Gwin Ru in posts #1699 and #1799, have abruptly disappeared. There may well be a simple reason, but at the time of writing no-one out there seems to know what happened or why.
    I watched both streams. Gonzo said he was going to delete them. During the second part, he was getting trolled in the chat pretty intensely, and it was distracting him. The troll would get bounced and would come back on a different account.

    Gonzo thinks the article in the Daily Beast caught him some liberal flack and brought the trolls out. So he said himself he would delete these two streams and tomorrow would try to regroup and get a moderator to help him. He tried hiding the chat but he likes the normal feedback and to make sure the stream is okay.

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    https://twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/sta...63114470150155

    https://twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/sta...55981615796226

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeSzamuely/s...98951564079107
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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Russia accuses Hunter Biden of funding Ukrainian biological weapons labs
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...gical-weapons/
    Unsubstantiated claim appears designed to build on negative coverage about president’s son in Right-wing US media
    By Nataliya Vasilyeva, RUSSIA CORRESPONDENT, 24 March 2022
    [...]
    Me think the Russians got a copy of Hunter's laptop...

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    Updates, please... very important (and IMO, deserving of celebration) if true.



    Meanwhile, here's an interesting (shorter than usual!) article from Joe Lauria of Consortium News. As several other commentators have noted, the Pentagon seems to be trying to insert a degree of important realism into the very wild thinking of the US administration.
    Pentagon Drops Truth Bombs to Stave Off War With Russia

    Two leaked stories from the Pentagon have exposed the lies of mainstream media about how Russia is conducting the Ukraine war in a bid to counter propaganda intended to get NATO into the conflict, writes Joe Lauria.

    The Pentagon is engaged in a consequential battle with the U.S. State Department and the Congress to prevent a direct military confrontation with Russia, which could unleash the most unimaginable horror of war.

    President Joe Biden is caught in the middle of the fray. So far he is siding with the Defense Department, saying there cannot be a NATO no-fly zone over Ukraine fighting Russian aircraft because “that’s called World War III, okay? Let’s get it straight here, guys. We will not fight the third world war in Ukraine.”

    “President Biden’s been clear that U.S. troops won’t fight Russia in Ukraine, and if you establish a no-fly zone, certainly in order to enforce that no-fly zone, you’ll have to engage Russian aircraft. And again, that would put us at war with Russia,” said U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin earlier this month. (The administration plan is to bring down the Russian government through a ground insurgency and economic war, not a direct military one.)

    But pressure on the White House from Congress and the press corps is unrelenting to recklessly bring NATO directly into the war. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, hailed as a virtual superhero in Western media, has vacillated between openness to negotiating a peace settlement with Russia and calling for NATO to “close the skies” above Ukraine. To save his country he appears willing to risk endangering the entire world.

    Meanwhile, Western corporate media, depending almost exclusively on Ukrainian sources, report that Russia is losing the war, with its military offensive “stalled,” and in frustration has deliberately targeted civilians and flattened cities.

    Biden has bought into this part of the story, calling Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal.” He has also said that Russia is planning a “false flag” chemical attack to pin on Ukraine.

    But on Tuesday, the Pentagon took the bold step of leaking two stories to reporters that contradict those tales. “Russia’s conduct in the brutal war tells a different story than the widely accepted view that Vladimir Putin is intent on demolishing Ukraine and inflicting maximum civilian damage—and it reveals the Russian leader’s strategic balancing act,” reported Newsweek in an article entitled, “Putin’s Bombers Could Devastate Ukraine But He’s Holding Back. Here’s Why.”

    The piece quotes an unnamed analyst at the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) saying, “The heart of Kyiv has barely been touched. And almost all of the long-range strikes have been aimed at military targets.”

    A retired U.S. Air Force officer now working as an analyst for a Pentagon contractor, added: “We need to understand Russia’s actual conduct. If we merely convince ourselves that Russia is bombing indiscriminately, or [that] it is failing to inflict more harm because its personnel are not up to the task or because it is technically inept, then we are not seeing the real conflict.”

    The article says:
    “As of the past weekend, in 24 days of conflict, Russia has flown some 1,400 strike sorties and delivered almost 1,000 missiles (by contrast, the United States flew more sorties and delivered more weapons in the first day of the 2003 Iraq war). …
    A proportion of those strikes have damaged and destroyed civilian structures and killed and injured innocent civilians, but the level of death and destruction is low compared to Russia’s capacity.
    ‘I know it’s hard … to swallow that the carnage and destruction could be much worse than it is,’ says the DIA analyst. ‘But that’s what the facts show. This suggests to me, at least, that Putin is not intentionally attacking civilians, that perhaps he is mindful that he needs to limit damage in order to leave an out for negotiations.'”
    A second retired U.S. Air Force officer says:
    “I’m frustrated by the current narrative—that Russia is intentionally targeting civilians, that it is demolishing cities, and that Putin doesn’t care. Such a distorted view stands in the way of finding an end before true disaster hits or the war spreads to the rest of Europe. I know that the news keeps repeating that Putin is targeting civilians, but there is no evidence that Russia is intentionally doing so. In fact, I’d say that Russian could be killing thousands more civilians if it wanted to.”
    These Pentagon sources confirm what Putin and the Russian Ministry of Defense have been saying all along: that instead of being “stalled,” Russia is executing a methodical war plan to encircle cities, opening humanitarian corridors for civilians, leaving civilian infrastructure like water, electricity, telephony and internet intact, and trying to avoid as many civilian casualties as possible.

    Until these Pentagon leaks it was difficult to confirm that Russia was entirely telling the truth and that corporate media were publishing fables cooked up by Ukraine’s publicity machine.

    No Evidence of Chemicals

    The second article directly undermines Biden’s dramatic warning about a false flag chemical attack. Reuters reported: “The United States has not yet seen any concrete indications of an imminent Russian chemical or biological weapons attack in Ukraine but is closely monitoring streams of intelligence for them, a senior U.S. defense official said.”

    It quoted the Pentagon official as saying, “There’s no indication that there’s something imminent in that regard right now.” Neither The New York Times nor The Washington Post published the Reuters article, which appeared in the more obscure U.S. News and World Report.

    Never let the facts get in the way of a good story — even if it could lead to the most devastating consequences in history.
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