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    Ignore Kiev, ignore Kharkov (where I am), ignore the rest of Ukraine — THIS is the important bit, this is where THE battle is taking place: The eastern Ukraine cauldron, around Kramatorsk.

    60,000 fighters are caught here. They have no chance of resupply or reinforcements, and they have run out of gasoline. Once they have been neutralized (one way or the other), everything else in Ukraine will fall, and the war will end.

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    It does look very much like it's in the end stage.


    They are taking a hammering, the Azov lot are all but spent & the ordinary Ukrainian soldiers are surrendering in groups with the same tale of distant commanders that don't spend any time near the front & don't send supplies.

    That said it does look like the negotiations might be getting somewhere, possibly because they have ditched the little comedian ?

    Quote The head of the Russian delegation Vladimir Medinsky and the representative of Ukraine David Arakhamia at the one-on-one talks in Istanbul
    Quote Russian-Ukrainian talks in Istanbul have ended. We are waiting for a joint statement
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    Latest on the peace talks

    Quote 'We're ready to consider' - Russian negotiator Medinsky on bilateral steps towards compromise in Russia-Ukraine talks

    Vladimir Medinsky, one of the negotiators from the Russian delegation in the talks with Ukraine, has said that steps were taken from both sides towards reaching a certain agreement, including a written proposal from Ukraine.

    "We have received from the Ukrainian side a written proposal, a proposal in writing, about the neutral status, about deployment of military bases, refutal to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine, refutal to produce weapons of mass destruction including bacteriological and chemical," said Medinsky.

    In response to the proposal, Medinsky said that Russia has decided to make "big steps", including the gradual deescalation in military sense in two areas, Kiev and Cherniyev.

    The second step, Medinsky said, would be a high-level summit. "There is still a long path to that. And the proposals that Ukraine sent us, we are ready to consider," said Medinsky
    So, there's another reason for Russian troops moving away from Kiev.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Gonzalo Lira

    Ignore Kiev, ignore Kharkov (where I am), ignore the rest of Ukraine — THIS is the important bit, this is where THE battle is taking place: The eastern Ukraine cauldron, around Kramatorsk.


    60,000 fighters are caught here. They have no chance of resupply or reinforcements, and they have run out of gasoline. Once they have been neutralized (one way or the other), everything else in Ukraine will fall, and the war will end.
    Based on what I believe I know and understand, he's very probably right. That would mean that the American attempts to expand and prolong the conflict would fail — which is very very important.

    I wrote a comment about that in my post #1855 above:
    Putin will be well aware of the obvious American agenda to expand and prolong the war. Without losing face or appearing to back down, he'll very likely want to stop that in its tracks while maintaining full control over Donbass and Crimea. (Re Donbass, he'll likely insist on a citizens' referendum, which may be hard for anyone to criticize or refuse.)

    It's possible that 90% of the deNazification has been achieved already, but the remaining 10% could still be a problem depending on where the remaining Nazis are located and what they're doing. And I suspect that Putin will want Zelensky to remain as President (which will help Ukraine to recover, but in a strictly neutral capacity), though with far reduced influence and surrounded by Russian advisers.

    What I didn't add there was that
    • The sanctions against Russia and China will continue,
    • Faux moral outrage will continue to stoke all the media fires,
    • The US will marginalize itself (as will parts of Europe), and
    • The project of the unipolar NWO will fail.
    In quite a few ways — and many analysts will be discussing this over the next few weeks — this might be the best of all possible outcomes, though I do NOT wish any hardship on innocent people wherever they may live. (And there'll be hardship among many of the poorer people in the US, for sure. )

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    • The sanctions against Russia and China will continue,
    • Faux moral outrage will continue to stoke all the media fires,
    • The US will marginalize itself (as will parts of Europe), and
    • The project of the unipolar NWO will fail.

    In quite a few ways — and many analysts will be discussing this over the next few weeks — this might be the best of all possible outcomes, though I do NOT wish any hardship on innocent people wherever they may live. (And there'll be hardship among many of the poorer people in the US, for sure. )
    But I should also add:

    This means that the risk of an imminent False Flag incident — specifically as a last throw of the American dice to prolong and extend the war — is VERY VERY VERY high.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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    For the record, this was what was reported on Russia Today a few hours ago. Interestingly, during The Duran's livestream this morning US time, they were watching the response on Russian social media — which was predominantly critical, angry and/or concerned that Russia should NOT give too much away.

    Since then I've heard nothing more, but maybe other members could provide an update?
    Highlights from Russia-Ukraine peace talks in Turkey

    After a month of hostilities, Kiev has come up with a written proposal for what it wants from a peace treaty

    Russian offensive scaled down

    An immediate practical effect of the talks will be a de-escalation of military activities in some parts of Ukraine, the Russian Defense Ministry announced. In particular, it pledged to “dramatically” reduce its operations near the cities of Chernigov and the capital, Kiev.

    NATO-like security guarantees

    David Arakhamia, Medinsky’s opposite number in the Ukrainian delegation, said Kiev had sought a security guarantee similar to that contained in Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty. He named Russia, the UK, China, the US, Turkey, France, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel as possible providers. Some of them have given their preliminary agreement, he said.

    No military blocs and non-nuclear Ukraine

    In the proposal, Ukraine pledged not to join any military alliance, not to host foreign military bases or foreign troops, Medinsky said. Even military exercises would require prior approval from guarantors, according to the proposal. Kiev also pledged not to seek to obtain weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, the official added. But in return Ukraine wants Russia not to object to its joining the EU one day.

    Crimea, Donbass unresolved

    According to Medinsky, Kiev offered a 15-year moratorium on the status of Crimea, during which its fate would be negotiated and both sides would pledge not to use military force to resolve it. This is not compatible with Russia’s position that Crimea is part of its territory and Kiev needs to recognize it as such.

    Ukraine also sought to include “parts” of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions into the definition of its territory for the purpose of security guarantees, the Russian envoy said. Moscow officially recognized the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics as sovereign states – in their full regional boundaries – just days before sending troops into Ukraine last month.

    Borders in question

    Medinsky said Kiev did not state whether it would relinquish its territorial claim to Donetsk and Lugansk. Prior to February, Ukraine controlled a large portion of both Donetsk and Lugansk and considers the regions to be its own territory.

    Arakhamia made it clear that Kiev will assert sovereignty over the entire territory that Ukraine had when it declared independence in 1991, saying there could be no compromise on this point.

    New conditions for Zelensky-Putin meeting

    Moscow has agreed to organize a meeting between Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky as part of the final phase of negotiations over the future peace treaty. The Kremlin had previously said that such a meeting could only be scheduled once the document was finalized and inked by the respective foreign ministers.

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    I should also post this for the record. Way too long, dense and complicated to embed all the tweets and videos, but it features a detailed military analysis for those who are interested in the detail.
    Sitrep Operation Z

    Several big developments are giving us an idea of a shifting picture on the ground today. First let’s start with the fronts where the largest changes took place, and then give a broader strategic analysis.

    -Many reports today confirm our previous determination that Russia is in fact conducting a major regrouping of its forces following what Shoigu today has called the successful conclusion of the main objectives of the first phase of operations:

    “Shoigu: In general, the main objectives of the first phase of the operation have been achieved. The combat capabilities of the VSU have been significantly reduced, which allows us to focus our main attention and main efforts on achieving the main goal – the liberation of Donbass.

    This is in conjunction with the announcement from RF that some VDV units will be withdrawn from the Kiev region as a sign of good faith for the negotiations.

    Of course the Western press/analysts have predictably spun this news as, ‘Attritioned Russian forces are pulling out and downscaling their operation in order to concentrate on more realistic objectives in the east’.

    There is a very informative thread by Scott Ritter today who explains the simple concept of a military ‘feint’ (misdirection, deception, diversionary tactics etc) we’ve often mentioned before in the discussion of Russia’s opening maneuvers which seemed to many of us who actually follow military matters, to be a ‘pinning strategy’ that keeps Ukrainian forces from redistributing and relieving their primary forces in Donbass and elsewhere.

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    1. Big Arrow War—a primer. For all those scratching their heads in confusion, or dusting off their dress uniforms for the Ukrainian victory parade in Kiev, over the news about Russia’s “strategic shift”, you might want to re-familiarize yourself with basic military concepts.
    2. Maneuver warfare is a good place to start. Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.
    3. Maneuver war is more psychological than physical and focuses more on the operational than on the tactical level. Maneuver is relational movement—how you deploy and move your forces in relation to your opponent. Russian maneuver in the first phase of its operation support this.
    4. The Russians needed to shape the battlefield to their advantage. In order to do this, they needed to control how Ukraine employed it’s numerically superior forces, while distributing their own smaller combat power to best accomplish this objective.
    5. Strategically, to facilitate the ability to maneuver between the southern, central, and northern fronts, Russia needed to secure a land bridge between Crimea and Russia. The seizure of the coastal city of Mariupol was critical to this effort. Russia has accomplished this task.
    6. While this complex operation unfolded, Russia needed to keep Ukraine from maneuvering its numerically superior forces in a manner that disrupted the Mariupol operation. This entailed the use of several strategic supporting operations—feints, fixing operations, and deep attack.
    7. The concept of a feint is simple—a military force either is seen as preparing to attack a given location, or actually conducts an attack, for the purpose of deceiving an opponent into committing resources in response to the perceived or actual actions.
    8. The use of the feint played a major role in Desert Storm, where Marine Amphibious forces threatened the Kuwaiti coast, forcing Iraq to defend against an attack that never came, and where the 1st Cavalry Division actually attacked Wadi Al Batin to pin down the Republican Guard.
    9. The Russians made extensive use of the feint in Ukraine, with Amphibious forces off Odessa freezing Ukrainian forces there, and a major feint attack toward Kiev compelling Ukraine to reinforce their forces there. Ukraine was never able to reinforce their forces in the east.
    10. Fixing operations were also critical. Ukraine had assembled some 60,000-100,000 troops in the east, opposite Donbas. Russia carried out a broad fixing attack designed to keep these forces fully engaged and unable to maneuver in respect to other Russian operations.
    11. During Desert Storm, two Marine Divisions were ordered to carry out similar fixing attacks against Iraqi forces deployed along the Kuwaiti-Saudi border, tying down significant numbers of men and material that could not be used to counter the main US attack out west.
    By the way, von Manstein, considered one of the greatest German WW2 generals famously employed such tactics, particularly in the same Donbass region against the Soviet forces, where he utilized feints and strategic retreats in order to capture a much larger encroaching force by way of misdirection and diversions). You can watch videos such as this one to see how an extremely agile mechanized force can employ diversionary tactics and misdirection to bait a much larger force:
    https://youtu.be/vL1BiYvG-38

    A source from Kiev further has reported that “Russia now has MORE armor units accumulated on the border than it did prior to the war…” This is extremely telling, and if true, a clear sign that a major phase 2 operation is in the preparatory stages. And there’s many sightings/videos of new forces coming in such as this one:
    https://twitter.com/MotolkoHelp/stat...94997184897024
    https://twitter.com/hochu_dodomu/sta...30518564753409

    The full statement: Russia has pulled more equipment to the border than it was before the invasion – according to Ukrainian resources affiliated with the intelligence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    The intelligence community “Informnapalm” specifies that specifically in the Kursk region a huge amount of military equipment is recorded – more than it was on February 24th.”

    (photo of earlier build up for reference)



    -Now onto a few actual tactical updates:

    By far the most actively successful theatre for RF forces has been Izyum. Kamyanka was mostly captured and there are now reports that fighting has been recorded as far south / down the road as Krestyshche (likely just advance/scout forces), which is right on the outskirts of Slovyansk. Similarly in the SW direction from Izyum, fighting continues around Barinkove and more and more forces continue to pour into this area via pontoon bridge crossings on the Donets river. This will become a bigger and bigger focus in the coming days as the “regrouping” pivots towards full Phase 2, as this area will become the main pincer of the north to enclose the ‘Great Cauldron’.

    -In Mariupol, cleansing continues and Ramzan Kadyrov has flown in to help oversee the final stages of the Mariupol liberation and continue giving his troops morale on the frontlines. The city is divided into small pockets which are strategically being pushed by RF aligned forces towards the Azovstal factory so that they can concentrate and bottleneck all the remaining Azov forces there. The verdict is still out whether, as some have expressed, Russia will choose to “sacrifice the factory” once all of Azov is in there (via massive bombing), to get rid of them all in one shot, or instead cleanse it piece by piece so as to salvage it intact. The factory is an important industrial center that was once amongst the largest in the world for steel, so likely Russia is hesitant to completely destroy this heritage to Soviet industry.

    And by the way, though we don’t know the exact force distribution in Mariupol, it has become clear that there are at least 3 distinct groups operating in several directions which have finally ‘linked’ at central points and are now often operating together. These are 1. the DPR forces from the north, the Chechen forces from the East, and now a special Russian Marine force from the West – what appears to be ‘Naval Infantry’. Several videos can be seen of these forces now operating in conjunction, though how the command is distributed between them is uncertain as of yet:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/bHfSya228Qfk
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/SuYgc42MxSqU

    Also, this might be graphic but a must-see. This is what Azov battalion has become in Mariupol: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lVf6xGHKXEBx

    A Ukrainian transport helicopter was also shot down yesterday in a desperate last ditch attempt to save some of the Azov leadership. It tried to come in stealthily, flying low over the Azov Sea, bypassing Russian land corridor / radar coverage, but once it got in close it was nevertheless detected and obliterated.



    -The administrative center building in Nikolayev was hit by Kaliber missile this morning. Official Ukrainian estimates claimed only 20-30 casualties (wounded plus killed), but chatrooms of Nikolayev have apparently begun to leak actual lists of casualties of confirmed casualty names on Telegram, and reports indicate there’s 200+ so far and possibly will be higher than the barracks of the 79th Brigade which was struck last week. Rumors after that hit last week stated that Ukraine command issued an immediate decree to no longer allow publishing of any ‘aftermath’ photos like the ones on the 79th which showed gruesome dead of the UAF. This means we likely won’t see much photo confirmation but the sheets with casualty names can be seen on the Telegrams of Colonel Cassad and others.



    -In other news, Deputy Head of the State Duma Committee Vladimir Shamanov today has announced that ‘Russian Spetsnaz’ have caught some of the perpetrators of the horrific torture / war crimes done to our artillery troops on the eastern outskirts of Kharkov the other day. Here is his statement:
    https://youtu.be/imVFwgXNijw

    “Today they are lying at their feet, asking for mercy” – Deputy Head of the State Duma Committee Vladimir Shamanov claims that those who mocked Russian servicemen in Ukraine were captured by Russian special forces.

    “Those who bullied our servicemen did not rejoice for long, after three days our special forces captured these bastards. Today they roll at their feet, begging for mercy. I will call their names. One bastard was called Sergei Velichko, nicknamed Chile. The second – Konstantin Nemechev. Both bastards grew up as Nazis from a fan group of the local Metalist football club. This is what they themselves told during the first interrogations. And so it will be with everyone who is unworthy, violating the Geneva Convention, to act with our prisoners of war.”

    Some however are skeptical of these claims until Russian leadership produces photos/videos proving these people are captured.

    -In economic news, the Ruble has now almost fully, miraculously recovered to its pre-war exchange rate against the USD.



    Let’s recall that the West claimed the Ruble would catastrophically drop to 200 against 1 USD. Instead it spiked to a high of 130-150 and has been steadily rebounding, now almost completely back to normal, which was in the 75-80 range prior to February 24 and the onset of the special operation. This is a massive economic shock and humiliation to the entire West, to say the least.

    On top of that, Russian stocks have opened back up and they are gaining positively as well:



    -One last thing to note. I’ve said numerous times now that U.S. and Western equipment in general has been a catastrophic failure in the Ukraine. But there’s some additional important news that continues to reveal the veracity of these claims.

    Firstly, this Pentagon reporter has stated that the Pentagon plans to buy hundreds of FEWER Javelin missiles this year than it did last year, DESPITE giving away thousands of them to Ukraine. https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/statu...17753413636096
    It is now clear that the Pentagon leadership has seen the utterly dismal performance of the Javelin and now wants to phase it out from U.S. forces. Remember, out of thousands of Javelins supplied, thousands of videos published by Ukraine, not a single successful usage of the system has ever been recorded. In fact the vast majority of successful Ukrainian defeats of Russian armor happens at the ends of legacy Soviet/Russian systems and mostly artillery. Russian forces continue to find Javelin units completely unused because Ukr troops have found them to be unwieldy and impractical in combat – too long to set up and use, too heavy to carry around, and not effective even when used. For urban combat where troops have to be as light, mobile, and agile as possible, the Javelin is absolutely worthless with its large CLU interface and overly-bulky design. The Pentagon has clearly seen the failure of the over-hyped system.

    -In another sudden and unexpected report, the Pentagon now wants to scrap DOZENS of F-22’s.
    https://www.rt.com/news/552870-pentagon-budget-f-22-jets-boneyard

    They have suddenly decided they want to ‘divert funding’ to the next generation platform. There is clearly connection here to something the Pentagon has witnessed in Ukraine that has left it scrambling to rethink its approach to modern warfare. You see all proxy wars are laboratories for Great Powers to test and assess their equipment.

    The F-22 was the flagship of the U.S. airforce, the ONLY plane forbidden by Congress to sell to any ally even in ‘export version’. The F-35 was meant for the export market while F-22 was supposed to be solely the unique and unmatched great hope and pinnacle of American engineering that would lead to victories in future wars. But it seems now that the Pentagon has had a taste of what modern Russian air defenses / radars are capable in Ukraine and is no longer confident of the F-22’s chances. It has suddenly scrambled to desperately dump the F-22 and prepare for the “next generation” platform titled the ‘Next Generation Air Dominance’ project, which would consist of heavily utilizing integrated drone warfare and possible drone swarms controlled by the pilot. This appears to indicate the U.S. sees no other way to defeat Russian air defenses and airpower in general apart from massive over-utilization of integrated drone saturation – it can no longer count on F-22’s after seeing how Russia has completely nullified the Ukrainian air and anti-air capabilities, which by the way were orders of magnitude greater than the capabilities of the Serbians in the 90’s who humiliated the U.S. air force several times.

    -Also, following Lugansk Head Paschenik’s statements earlier, that a referendum would be conducted for Lugansk to officially join the RF, the head of DPR Pushilin today has also issued statements saying that the DPR will hold a referendum to officially join the Russian Federation but only after the conflict has ended. Either way, it is big news for LPR/DPR to look forward to after cessation of hostilities. If successful, this would add another massive 3.8 million population injection into the RF which, added to Crimea, would bring RF’s total population in the range of 148,000,000. Keep in mind, prior to the events of 2014, RF’s population was 143 million.

    -Lastly, many people have been asking why Russia isn’t crippling Ukrainian internet capabilities. Today’s report claims massive Russian cyber attack has brought Ukraine internet connectivity to a mere 13% nationwide.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology...ttack-invasion

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    This should also probably go on record.

    Source file:
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    The whole truth about Ukraine's crimes in the Donbass

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    I think I found Roy Potter here on PA. Am not a complete fan, mostly because I don’t know or care about the prophecies he ties in to current events, but I appreciate much of his thought.

    Here is his latest upload. I just caught the last half hour of the livestream, but I’m guessing the whole thing had to do with the Ukraine situation.


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    Things are a little quiet since there is no reason to immediately attack Kiev. It is surrounded on three sides. There are other places that are still intercepting Tochkas, attention is needed elsewhere.


    There is an article today about what Russia means by "Nazi" from an Orthodox priest, Batiushka. It is not that long and is worth reading, because it is fairly accurate to the general consensus.


    He traces it vaguely to "barbarism" and is of course writing from a Christian view, that they were trying to convert "barbarism" way back then. Since the European religions are not Christian, he sort of jumbled this all into a tangible beginning of:


    This renewed and justified Barbarianism can be seen in the First ‘Reich’ (Empire), founded under the Germanic prince, Karl the Tall, also known as Charlemagne (747-814). Already before he founded this Reich in 800 and appointed himself ‘Emperor’...


    and that he, in fact, installed the anti-Christ religion:


    ...was ‘beatified’ by Roman Catholicism, which new Frankish religion, come from the Babylon of Rome, Charlemagne in effect founded, substituting it for the old Orthodox Christianity, come from Jerusalem.



    From that point, it goes through the Crusades and Colonialism and most of the material that most of us are familiar with.

    However this is a bit disingenuous towards Charlemagne. Catholicism was far from "newly Frankish" because there were centuries of "heretical" French monks who were slowly subordinated to "Ultramontane"--that is, from over the mountains, in Italy--dogma. There is nothing French in Catholicism, or, Catholicism is the removal of whatever any French person was saying. Charlemagne was totally taken off guard by the surprise that he had just been coronated Holy Roman Emperor. He didn't know what it was! Gift from the pope. Overnight, Ultramontanism grabbed dictatorial power by installing itself.

    Charlemagne and the Carolingian dynasty rose to power because they were doing real work, while the former ruling house of the Merovingians was known for spending fortunes on entertainment, having no capabilities to deal with people and events. So they could actually be seen as the idea of a Good King being more important than a Divine Right King.


    As written, the article sounds a bit too much like Charlemagne was the Nazi King of the First Reich. We do not know that he really had this character or any unusual beliefs. But nothing happened in France that was not the result of repeated Roman force projection. Then the article is not clear about Normans, who are not French, but Danish. Pagan Danes assaulted Catholic north France until they were given part of it. Then he misses the fact that it is these same Normans who established what we might call the Old World Order based in the Mediterranean Sea.


    France, being nominally Catholic since an early time, therefor became particularly hated by Venice, which began political intrigues that eventually became the Anglo Dutch system in 1688 as the neighboring Revolutions article picks up from. That author missed the whole point of the American Revolution, and also grossly oversimplified France--which was addressed in the first comment:


    This is a common misunderstanding since the mentioned french revolution which the french population celebrates was a psyop organised in significant measure by the british oligarchy in collusion with some continental actors.
    Lyndon Larouche and his circle have been exposing that for decades.

    The french monarchy wasnt what it was rumoured to be anymore than Putin or Assad are evil dictators.

    Voltaire wasnt an innocent observer but an agent hired by Venice.
    Bernhard Henry Levi comes to mind, although much less eloquent.

    There are hardly any revolutions to celebrate. But perhaps the american one would count. And there was a brief rapidly twarted effort to bring it to France.



    The last part is an understatement. The American Revolution does count. In a way that was understood by three royal ladies, Marie Antoinette--France, Maria Theresa Austria--Hungary, and Catherine--Russia. Internally to the French Revolution, therefor, was this same principle, however there were multiple factions and waves and so the result was not the same.


    I suppose that Russian "Nazi" is a multi-tier word for an historical ethos which for a time operated through German Nazis and is still, so to speak, working for the same paymaster, even though there is not an actual Reich in progress.


    The point is that the West is a mix of Catholic and Venetian intrigues, which, in the 1770s, had a resistance bloc between four countries that were somewhat all allies in principle, and out of favor with the British. Currently, only the country or culture, Russia, is still speaking the majority of these same points.


    This largely characterizes how the west is known outside of its sphere of influence. No one is exactly waiting for a way for it to prove how it really is superior.

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    Retired Colonel, Jeffrey Prather weighs in with his take on the geopolitical situation as relates to Ukraine, Russia, China, US and more. Interesting and informative.

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    Quote Posted by Franny (here)

    Retired Colonel, Jeffrey Prather weighs in with his take on the geopolitical situation as relates to Ukraine, Russia, China, US and more. Interesting and informative.
    It's so interesting to see what event has turned all those 'black hat' people in the US deep state, finally. The Ukraine operation.

    That must tell us something important about the whole big picture.
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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...earch-ukraine/

    Quote Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Marija Zakharova has published a timeline of US-Ukraine bioresearch, which Gateway Pundit documents here for purposes of critical analysis.

    Note: Bear in mind any information published by the Russian government in wartime must be viewed with extreme caution.
    Russian Foreign Ministry Releases Alleged “BioBiden” Timeline of US Bioresearch in Ukraine

    1991 – the US launches the Nunn-Lugar programme for the former Soviet countries to control/eliminate Soviet weapons of mass destruction including bioweapons. The Pentagon’s Defence Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) was named as the programme’s main executor.

    1993 – the Ukraine-US Agreement on the Prevention of Proliferation of WMD is signed.

    2005 – an additional protocol is signed to the agreement between the Ukrainian Health Ministry and the DTRA on the prevention of the proliferation of technologies, pathogens and know-how that can be used to develop bioweapons. This is the start of the transfer of the Ukrainian military biological potential into US specialists’ hands.

    2000s – large US military-industrial companies are engaged in military biological activity in Ukraine.

    2005-2014 – Black & Veatch Special Projects, a DTRA contractor, builds and upgrades 8 biolabs in Ukraine instead of eliminating military biological infrastructure, as was originally claimed. One of the facilities, a biolab in Odessa, has been financed since 2011 for the study of “pathogens that can be used in bioterrorism attacks.”

    2007 – US DoD employee Nathan Wolfe founded Global Viral Forecasting Institute (subsequently – Global Viral), a biomedical company. The mission stated in the charter is non-commercial study of transborder infections, including in China.

    2009 – Rosemont Seneca Partners is established by former US Secretary of State John Kerry’ stepson Christopher Heinz and incumbent US President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden.

    2014 – anti-constitutional coup d’etat in Ukraine.

    2014 – Hunter Biden joins the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company.

    2014 – Metabiota, a private commercial organisation specialising in the study of pandemic risks is detached from Global Viral. Neil Callahan and John DeLoche, employees of Hunter Biden’s company Rosemont Seneca Partners are appointed to the board of Metabiota. Global Viral and Metabiota begin to get funding from the US Department of Defence.

    2014 – Metabiota shows interest in Ukraine and invites Hunter Biden to “assert Ukraine’s cultural & economic independence from Russia”.

    2014 – Metabiota and Burisma Holdings begin cooperation on an unnamed “science project in Ukraine”.

    2014 – Metabiota, Global Viral and Black & Veatch Special Projects begin full-fledged cooperation within the US DoD programmes.

    2014-2016 – Implementation of Metabiota and US DoD contracts, including a $300,000 project in Ukraine.

    2016 – US citizen Ulana Nadia Suprun, a descendant of Ukrainian Nazis, is appointed Acting Health Minister of Ukraine. The US DoD and Ukraine’s Health Ministry cooperation programme is greatly expanded.

    2016 – an outbreak of swine flu among Ukrainian Defence Ministry personnel guarding a biolab in Kharkov, Ukraine; 20 dead. The incident is hushed up.

    2016 – former US Assistant Secretary for Defence Andrew Weber is appointed head of Metabiota’s global partnerships department.

    2016 – EcoHealth Alliance, a Global Viral founder Nathan Wolfe’s structure, is engaged in the study of bat-transmitted coronaviruses at the research centre in a Wuhan laboratory, China.

    2016 – the DTRA and Ukraine’s Health Ministry extend the contract after getting approval from the Ukrainian Defence Ministry.


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    A new Infowars report that I'll merely link to here, sparing readers the details if they understandably prefer to look away.

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