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    Followers of Col Douglas Macgregor may appreciate these two videos, 4 mins and 8 mins long respectively. I'm increasingly impressed with his sanity, groundedness, knowledge and courage to speak out.



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    The Ukraine – a decisive transfer of the balance of power from west to east

    The 2022 Russo-Ukraine is also a proxy war between Russia and the Western world. We should be prepared for a decisive transfer of the balance of power from West to East…The bulk of the fighting is in the Donbas where there are few or no Western journalists.

    Most of the debate and coverage of the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war in Australia and the Western world is decidedly banal. It is characterised by the simplification of an extremely complex situation to generate a narrative that can be summarised as Putin and Russia are evil and Ukraine is good.

    This gross simplification is not helpful in either understanding the causes of the war, the nature of the war, its broader implications and most importantly of all, how it can be ended with the least number of additional deaths and injuries and damage to Ukraine’s infrastructure.

    The preponderance of human-interest reporting of the conflict in lieu of coverage of the war itself is illustrative. The heartbreaking examples of families torn asunder along with the brave exploits of Ukrainian soldiers or allegations of war crimes by Russia, whilst important, tends to trigger an emotional response rather than provide an accurate depiction of the course of events.

    Partly this is because very few mainstream Western reporters, if any, appear to be located where the bulk of the fighting is, namely in the Donbass and around Mariupol. The resulting vacuum is filled by claims, many unverified and unverifiable, from the Ukrainian side, the aforementioned human-interest stories or the impact of missile strikes in and around the major cities. Truth has long been described as the first casualty of war. It would be unwise to think that this conflict is an exception. We should thus take a healthy dose of scepticism about the media reporting and analysis of the war – from all sides.

    A narrative that seems to be gaining traction is that the Russian forces have culminated and Ukraine may actually be winning. This narrative could well be wishful thinking, influenced by the desire for Russia to lose, the overwhelming pro-Ukrainian bias of reporting and analysis and a misunderstanding of Russia’s aims and strategy.

    The Russian military is running an ‘economy of effort’ operation. It has effectively fixed in place the garrisons defending Ukraine’s major cities leaving them incapable of supporting the troops in the Donbass. Meanwhile Russia is progressively destroying the military infrastructure of the Ukraine (resupply, maintenance and command and control facilities and weapon systems such as Air Defence, artillery and armoured vehicles) through a combination of air strikes, cruise missiles, rockets and traditional artillery across the breadth and depth of Ukraine. Approximately 60,000 of Ukraine’s best trained and equipped troops are located in the Donbass. It would appear unlikely that this force is capable of anything other than localised tactical level manoeuvre at this point due to a combination of ever dwindling supplies of ammunition, fuel and rations, Russia’s dominance in the air and ground based combat power, and the effects of combat to date.

    Despite the alleged incompetence of the handling of the initial stages of the war, the Pentagon assesses that the Russian forces still retain nearly 90% of the initial combat power assigned to the invasion. With Russian forces on the verge of completing the capture of Mariupol, it will only be a matter of time before the Ukrainian forces in the Donbass are fully encircled and subsequently destroyed or forced to surrender. Whilst there may be many weeks, or even months of fighting ahead, the writing is on the wall that Russia, barring outside intervention (i.e. NATO – which has repeatedly ruled out direct military intervention), will achieve its military objectives.

    The direct Russo-Ukraine conflict is however just one level of this conflict. Ukraine is actually an unfortunate pawn in the much bigger conflict. As long time Russia analyst Gilbert Doctorow notes this is a ‘full-blown proxy war between the United States of America and the Russian Federation, and it is about ending or perpetuating American global hegemony.’ Whilst the war in Ukraine will end sooner or later, the implications at a global scale of this proxy war will be of much greater consequence for a much greater period of time.

    The Western response to Russia’s invasion has been to substantially increase its military aid to Ukraine (which is unlikely to change the outcome of the war) and implement economic (and cultural) sanctions of an unprecedented scale and nature on Russia.

    This approach is unlikely to work for multiple reasons, the primary one being as I stated in my last article that there ‘are no sanctions that the US or Europe can implement that will not have a greater impact upon those countries than Russia or create further divisions among the Western powers.’

    Whilst the sanctions will have a disruptive and negative effect on the Russian economy, they will not be devastating for the simple fact that Russia is too important to the global economy. The initial shock of the sanctions did not cause a collapse of the Russian financial system, nor did it result did not result in a bank run. The Ruble has already regained some of its value versus the US dollar and Russia has (for now) made bond repayments.

    Russia is far from being isolated. Whilst a majority of countries voted against Russia at the United Nations General Assembly, of more importance is the countries that are not sanctioning Russia. Outside of the West virtually no country is sanctioning Russia, including the world’s two most populous, China and India with the world’s second and sixth largest economies.

    Russia has many willing buyers for its energy, mineral and agricultural produce. For those countries not on Russia’s ‘unfriendly country list’ they will receive preferential deals for exports as already evidenced by the Rupee – Ruble oil mechanism with India and a natural gas and grain deal with Pakistan.

    The impact of Western businesses withdrawing from Russia, whilst causing short to medium term disruptions, will in the longer term be managed through an expansion of Russia’s import substitution policies and sourcing goods from other countries. There are already reports that the sale of Chinese mobile phones in Russia have more than doubled whilst the Chinese financial company UnionPay is replacing VISA and Mastercard. The effect of the sanctions policy may very well be the permanent gifting of a market of 140 million people to Chinese and Indian businesses.

    Prior to the war commencing many countries, including the United States and in Europe, were facing an inflationary crisis, largely driven by the surging costs of energy. That situation is now much worse. Europe is already suffering energy shortages. Attempts to replace Russian energy will be time consuming and difficult. The Serbian President describes the situation as follows:

    ‘We cannot just destroy ourselves. If we impose sanctions on Russia in the oil and gas domain, we will destroy ourselves. It’s like shooting yourself in the foot before rushing into a fight.’

    The net effect of the sanctions policy for Europe in particular is likely to be structurally higher prices for raw materials (energy, base minerals, fertilisers etc) and precarious supply chains for the foreseeable future. Standards of living will drop and the nascent cost of living protests that are emerging across Europe will likely turn into major domestic political crises.

    The sanctions, including the unprecedented freezing of a central banks assets, are also undermining trust in the Western financial system. The trend towards de-dollarisation will rapidly accelerate from here on as countries seek to minimise the risk of trading with the US dollar.

    The influence of Western powers is dwindling around the world. The leaders of the UAE and Saudi Arabia have refused to accept calls from President Biden – unthinkable even a few years ago. The recent cancellation of a UK delegation to India and both India and China’s unwillingness to ‘toe’ the Western line towards Russia being other key indicators.

    It seems clear that the Western powers have overestimated the impact that the sanctions would have on Russia, had not fully thought through the implications, were unprepared for the consequences and have no feasible way of reversing their actions. Meanwhile the majority of the world’s countries will continue to trade and maintain their relationship with Russia for the simple reason that it is in their interests to do so.

    Kishore Mahbubani predicted that it will be an Asian 21st century. Prior to 24 February 2022 the progress of the transition of the balance of power from West to East was progressing as a drawn-out process occurring over a decadal timeframe. However, the Western response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is rapidly accelerating this process – an own goal. There is a good chance that 2022 will in hindsight be viewed as the decisive tipping point. Unfortunately, the penny has not yet dropped with Western governments and their compliant media of what their actions have triggered. Enlightened self-interest suggests that a major change in direction is required in the West, Australia included, to make the best of a bad situation.

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    An interesting, fairly short (27 mins) discussion about the important, imminent issue of Putin's demand for rubles as payment for European gas. The deadline is tomorrow, 31 March.

    Alexander Mercouris' opening remarks may be very valid... Putin does not bluff.


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    Could the Ukraine conflict put an end to EU 'golden passports'?
    The European Commission has called on EU governments to stop selling citizenship to wealthy foreign investors, also known as 'golden passports,' urging member states to suspend the sale of visas to Russians and Belarusians.

    The move is part of an ongoing EU campaign to crack down on the multi-billion-euro citizenship and visa industry, long considered among European politicians to be a security risk and a backdoor for dirty money within the bloc.
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    https://thecradle.co/Article/columns/8480

    How Mariupol will become a key hub of Eurasian integration

    Mariupol was battered by Ukraine's right-wing Azov battalion well before Moscow launched its military ops. In Russian hands, this strategic steelworks port can transform into a hub of Eurasian connectivity.
    Mariupol, the strategic Sea of Azov port, remains in the eye of the storm in Ukraine.

    The NATO narrative is that Azovstal – one of Europe’s biggest iron and steel works – was nearly destroyed by the Russian Army and its allied Donetsk forces who “lay siege” to Mariupol.

    The true story is that the neo-Nazi Azov batallion took scores of Mariupol civilians as human shields since the start of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, and retreated to Azovstal as a last stand. After an ultimatum delivered last week, they are now being completely exterminated by the Russian and Donetsk forces and Chechen Spetsnaz.

    Azovstal, part of the Metinvest group controlled by Ukraine’s wealthiest oligarch, Rinat Akhmetov, is indeed one of the biggest metallurgic plants in Europe, self-described as a “high-performance integrated metallurgical enterprise that produces coke and sinter, steel as well as high-quality rolled products, bars and shapes.”

    Amidst a flurry of testimonials detailing the horrors inflicted by the Azov neo-Nazis on Mariupol’s civilian population, a way more auspicious, invisible story bodes well for the immediate future.

    Russia is the world’s fifth largest steel producer, apart from holding huge iron and coal deposits. Mariupol – a steel Mecca – used to source coal from Donbass, but under de facto neo-Nazi rule since the 2014 Maidan events, was turned into an importer. Iron, for instance, started to be supplied from Krivbas in Ukraine, over 200 kilometers away.

    After Donetsk solidifies itself as an independent republic or, via referendum, chooses to become part of the Russian Federation, this situation is bound to change.

    Azovstal is invested in a broad product line of very useful stuff: structural steel, rail for railroads, hardened steel for chains, mining equipment, rolled steel used in factory apparatus, trucks and railroad cars. Parts of the factory complex are quite modern while some, decades old, are badly in need of upgrading, which Russian industry can certainly provide.

    Strategically, this is a huge complex, right at the Sea of Azov, which is now, for all practical purposes, incorporated into the Donetsk People’s Republic, and close to the Black Sea. That implies a short trip to the Eastern Mediterranean, including many potential customers in West Asia. And crossing Suez and reaching the Indian Ocean, are customers all across South and Southeast Asia.

    So the Donetsk People’s Republic, possibly part of the future Novorossiya, and even part of Russia, will be in control of a lot of steel-making capacity for southern Europe, West Asia, and beyond.

    One of the inevitable consequences is that it will be able to supply a real freight railroad construction boom in Russia, China and the Central Asian ‘stans.’ Railroad construction happens to be the privileged connectivity mode for Beijing’s ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). And, crucially, of the increasingly turbo-charged International North South Transportation Corridor (INSTC).

    So, mid-term, Mariupol should expect to become one of the key hubs of a boom in north-south routes – INSTC across Russia and linking with the ‘stans’ – as well as major BRI upgrades east-west and sub-BRI corridors.

    Interlocked Eurasia

    The INSTC’s main players are Russia, Iran and India – which are now, post-NATO sanctions, in advanced interconnection mode, complete with devising mechanisms to bypass the US dollar in their trade. Azerbaijan is another important INSTC player, yet more volatile because it privileges Turkey’s connectivity designs in the Caucasus.

    The INSTC network will also be progressively interconnecting with Pakistan – and that means the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a key BRI hub, which is slowly but surely expanding to Afghanistan. Foreign Minister Wang Yi’s impromptu visit to Kabul late last week was to advance the incorporation of Afghanistan to the New Silk Roads.

    All that is happening as Moscow – extremely close to New Delhi – is simultaneously expanding trade relations with Islamabad. All three, crucially, are Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) members.

    So the grand North-South design spells out fluent connectivity from the Russian mainland to the Caucasus (Azerbaijan), to West Asia (Iran) all the way to South Asia (India and Pakistan). None of these key players have demonized or sanctioned Russia despite ongoing US pressures to do so.

    Strategically, that represents the Russian multipolar concept of Greater Eurasian Partnership in action in terms of trade and connectivity – in parallel and complimentary with BRI because India, eager to install a rupee-ruble mechanism to buy energy, in this case is an absolutely crucial Russia partner, matching China’s reported $400 billion strategic deal with Iran. In practice, the Greater Eurasia Partnership will facilitate smoother connectivity between Russia, Iran, Pakistan and India.

    The NATO universe, meanwhile, is congenitally incapable of even recognizing the complexity of the alignment, not to mention analyze its implications. What we have is the interlocking of BRI, INTSC and the Greater Eurasia Partnership on the ground – all notions that are regarded as anathema in the Washington Beltway.

    All that of course is being designed amidst a game-changing geoeconomic moment, as Russia, starting this Thursday, will only accept payment for its gas in rubles from “unfriendly” nations.

    Parallel to the Greater Eurasia Partnership, BRI, since it was launched in 2013, is also progressively weaving a complex, integrated Eurasian network of partnerships: financial/economic, connectivity, physical infrastructure building, economic/trade corridors. BRI’s role as a co-shaper of institutions of global governance, including normative foundations, has also been crucial, much to the despair of the NATO alliance.

    Time to de-westernize

    Yet only now the Global South, especially, will start to observe the full spectrum of the China-Russia play across the Eurasian sphere. Moscow and Beijing are deeply involved in a joint drive to de-westernize globalist governance, if not shatter it altogether.

    Russia from now on will be even more meticulous in its institution-building, coalescing the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU), the SCO and the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) – a Eurasian military alliance of select post-Soviet states – in a geopolitical context of irreversible institutional and normative divide between Russia and the West.

    At the same time, the Greater Eurasia Partnership will be solidifying Russia as the ultimate Eurasian bridge, creating a common space across Eurasia which could even ignore vassalized Europe.

    Meanwhile in real life, BRI, as much as the INSTC, will be increasingly plugged into the Black Sea (hello, Mariupol). And BRI itself may even be prone to re-evaluation in its emphasis of linking western China to western Europe’s shrinking industrial base.

    There will be no point in privileging the northern BRI corridors – China-Mongolia-Russia via the Trans-Siberian, and the Eurasian land bridge via Kazakhstan – when you have Europe descending into medieval dementia.

    BRI’s renewed focus will be on gaining access to irreplaceable commodities – and that means Russia – as well as securing essential supplies for Chinese production. Commodity-rich nations, such as Kazakhstan and many players in Africa, shall become the top future markets for China.

    In a pre-Covid loop across Central Asia, one constantly heard that China builds plants and high-speed railways while Europe at best writes white papers. It can always get worse.

    The EU as occupied American territory is now descending, fast, from center of global power to the status of inconsequential peripheral player, a mere struggling market in the far periphery of China’s “community of shared destiny.”
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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Things are a little quiet since there is no reason to immediately attack Kiev. It is surrounded on three sides. There are other places that are still intercepting Tochkas, attention is needed elsewhere.


    There is an article today about what Russia means by "Nazi" from an Orthodox priest, Batiushka. It is not that long and is worth reading, because it is fairly accurate to the general consensus.

    (...)

    However this is a bit disingenuous towards Charlemagne. Catholicism was far from "newly Frankish" because there were centuries of "heretical" French monks who were slowly subordinated to "Ultramontane"--that is, from over the mountains, in Italy--dogma. There is nothing French in Catholicism, or, Catholicism is the removal of whatever any French person was saying. Charlemagne was totally taken off guard by the surprise that he had just been coronated Holy Roman Emperor. He didn't know what it was! Gift from the pope. Overnight, Ultramontanism grabbed dictatorial power by installing itself.

    (...)
    Shaberon, aren't you oddly mixing up Frankish and French here? Although the name "French" does come from the name "Frankish", its applicability in a political sense starts roughly in the 10th century at the earliest, I would think, or am I missing something? In a linguistic sense, Frankish later evolved into Dutch in the areas where Latin had not supplanted the pre-existent Celtic tongue (roughly Northern Belgium and the Netherlands), whereas French came out of the Latin dialects spoken in Gaul (later France) with a considerable admixture of Frankish words as Frankish was the language of the Merovingian and Karolingian nobility.

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    Shaberon, aren't you oddly mixing up Frankish and French here? Although the name "French" does come from the name "Frankish", its applicability in a political sense starts roughly in the 10th century at the earliest, I would think, or am I missing something?


    That is how the quote put it.

    I would agree that there wasn't France until Paris; but in Russia, Tibet, and India, "Frank" is the word for almost any kind of European, even the Portuguese at Goa. See Persian Farang. So, it was a tribe, but basically came to mean "white people".

    I suppose I said something like "French monk of the fifth century", so, no, that is not really correct, you would probably have to say "Burgundian" and so forth. In context, it means "north of the mountains", as far as the church can reach.
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    This is an interesting note from the day of publicized negotiations of less-than-binding nature:



    The same day, Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said that documents obtained from the employees of Ukrainian biological laboratories showed Kiev's plans to use drones capable of spraying deadly substances. The Ukrainian government was seriously considering the possibility of using biological weapons against the population of Donbass and Russia, he said.



    This is while there puzzlingly is not any response about the first bioweapons questions.


    The "multi-polar" declaration was made at:

    all today’s talks with representatives of the countries participating in the group of neighbors of Afghanistan


    which, as you know, is where empires go to die--and this negates a vaccine treaty or anything like it. It refuses any higher authority than a country's own. Maybe that has little to do with whether the U. S. political machine would stop pursuing it. It has a lot to do with the likelihood that it won't work. That probably only encourages them.

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    LATEST MAP Anonymous (ID: N0uqLoLW) 03/31/22(Thu)01:13:06 No.370233752

    IT'S OVER
    • Mariupol taken
    • azov kikes BTFO straight into hell
    • conquered territory equivalent to 2 x Great Britain a month
    • only 1300 losses, x20 losses for the hohols
    • saved DNR and LNR
    • 85% of Donbass in Russian hands
    • 95% of Luhansk oblast conquered
    • 70% of Donetsk oblast conquered
    • all of that despite constricting order to spare civilians and civilian infrastructure
    • faint Kiev siege and tie up 100k hohol soldiers
    • faint Odessa attack and tie up forces there
    • faint Kramatorsk attack and keep the 60k hohol soldiers pinned there
    • meanwhile conquer Mairupol unmolested
    • now you are free to use the Kiev fain soldiers and the forces from newly freed Mairupol to BTFO the 60k army outside the DNR and take the rest of the eastern and central parts of the country with n o opposition
    This is the greatest and most competent military action in modern history.

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