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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The interview starts with a lengthy section in which Scott Ritter presents a summary of his career. At one point, he breezes past a quick moment when he describes how he was stationed as a weapons inspector in Russia for a two year period, which he said was "eye-opening". Then he quickly moved on, ending up talking about the history of the problems in Ukraine and the current military situation there. It was quite a monologue.

    At 25:05, Scott Ritter comes to a halt, and after joking with him that he's already answered all his questions, Gerald Celente — who is clearly a better interviewer than I'd thought — is inspired enough to ask him in what way his two years in Russia as a weapons inspector was "eye-opening".

    Wow. Folks, YOU MUST LISTEN TO THIS PART if you possibly can.

    His answer is about 10 mins long and worth every gold-plated second. It's one of the strongest pro-human, anti-war polemics I've ever heard, straight from the heart. It's emotional, but at the same time totally grounded, coming from someone whose attitudes were forged by hard-ass Marine Corps training.

    It totally stopped me in my tracks and compelled me to make this post. I can't possibly recommend those 10 minutes too highly.

    Illustrates how war is not our nature.
    -Mind control is used big time to get wars going
    -We're all human no matter where we live. We all want to just live and let live.
    -The trauma that is carried with soldiers who have killed shows they are victims alongside the civilian casualties.
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    Bill, I was not going to listen to the 10 minutes, I was tired and cranky, but I forced myself and I am glad I did: as you say this man is a 'Mensch', as the German say, a humanitarian being who wants to coexist with people peacefully, so sad isn't it all this bloodshed and hatred, all this evil amidst our western society.

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    ...

    ... a little bit of fog lifting from Thierry Meyssan:

    The New World Order that is being prepared under the pretext of war in Ukraine

    by Thierry Meyssan

    The conflict in Ukraine was not opened by Russia on February 24, but by Ukraine a week before. The OSCE is a witness to this. This peripheral conflict had been planned by Washington to impose a New World Order from which Russia, then China, were to be excluded. Don’t be fooled!

    Voltaire Network | Paris (France) | 29 March 2022



    U.S. President Joe Biden called his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, a "butcher". Then he said, "For God’s sake, this man can’t stay in power. The State Department tried to downplay these statements by assuring that President Biden was only talking about exercising power over Russia’s neighbors, but he did not specify where Russia would exercise such power.
    This article is a follow-up to :
    1. "Russia wants to force the US to respect the UN Charter," January 4, 2022.
    2. "Washington pursues RAND plan in Kazakhstan, then Transnistria," January 11, 2022.
    3. "Washington refuses to hear Russia and China," January 18, 2022.
    4. "Washington and London, deafened", February 1, 2022.
    5. "Washington and London try to preserve their domination over Europe", February 8, 2022.
    6. “Two interpretations of the Ukrainian affair”, 16 February 2022.
    7. “Washington sounds the alarm, while its allies withdraw”, 22 February 2022.
    8. “Russia declares war on the Straussians”, by Thierry Meyssan, Voltaire Network, 5 March 2022.
    9. "A gang of drug addicts and neo-nazis”, 5 March 2022.
    10 “Israel stunned by Ukrainian neo-Nazis”, 8 March 2022.
    11. "Ukraine: the great manipulation", March 22, 2022.
    Russia’s military operations in Ukraine have been going on for more than a month and Nato’s propaganda operations for a month and a half.

    As always, the war propaganda of the Anglo-Saxons is coordinated from London. Since the First World War, the British have acquired an unparalleled know-how. In 1914, they had managed to convince their own population that the German army had carried out mass rapes in Belgium and that it was the duty of every Briton to come to the rescue of these poor women. It was a cleaner version of Kaiser Wilhelm II’s attempt to compete with the British colonial empire. At the end of the conflict, the British population demanded that the victims be compensated. A census was taken and it was found that the facts had been extraordinarily exaggerated.


    President Zelensky declared war on Russia by ordering the Banderist troops incorporated into his army to attack Russian citizens in the Donbass from February 17. Then he waved the red rag in front of the political leaders of NATO member countries and declared that he was going to acquire the atomic bomb in violation of international treaties.

    This time, in 2022, the British managed to convince the Europeans that on February 24 the Russians had attacked Ukraine to invade and annex it. Moscow was trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union and was preparing to attack all its former possessions in succession. This version is more honorable for the West than evoking the "Thucydides trap" - I will come back to this -. In reality, Kiev’s troops attacked their own population in Donbass on the afternoon of February 17. Then Ukraine waved a red rag in front of the Russian bull with President Zelenski’s speech to the political and military leaders of Nato gathered in Munich, during which he announced that his country was going to acquire nuclear weapons to protect itself from Russia.

    Don’t believe me? Here are the OSCE readings from the Donbass border. There had been no fighting for months, but the observers of the neutral organization observed 1,400 explosions per day as of the afternoon of February 17. Immediately, the rebel provinces of Donetsk and Lugansk, which still considered themselves Ukrainian but claimed autonomy within Ukraine, moved more than 100,000 civilians to protect them. Most retreated to the interior of Donbass, others fled to Russia.


    Number of explosions recorded in Donbass (February 14-22, 2022)
    Source: OSCE SMM Daily Report

    [...]

    Full article: https://www.voltairenet.org/article216293.html

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    https://twitter.com/MTIClarke/status...04867532443649

    https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/stat...72638990536712
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    https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/...38241411866624


    https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/...15973449703434


    https://twitter.com/timand2037/statu...79358785130498
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke;1491483
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    There have been videos on telegram, taken by the Ukronazis themselves, showing them using "PRESS" helmets & labels on civilian vehicles to get around.

    There are also vids of them using ambulances too.

    Looks like there aren't any depths they won't go to.





    Still not clear how many helicos went into Mariopol to get nazis out, even the two survivors one channel covered differed, one said four, the other who was a crew member said five, but from what they said it could have been four transports & one gunship...

    An interesting development seems to be that two French special forces guys were there, hence Macrons interest & putting his oar in ? They also seem to have recovered some odd emblems too, Maroc & a couple of other African countries...more mercs ?
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    https://twitter.com/spriter99880/sta...24569973547016


    https://twitter.com/AlanRMacLeod/sta...05134797742083
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Re what I posted above, from 4chan



    Also this https://southfront.org/more-details-...upol-revealed/
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    https://twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/...44110463942658

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    https://twitter.com/akarlin0/status/1509976477097504774


    https://twitter.com/ProjectRSJ/statu...37890491142144
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    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1510210433033990146


    https://twitter.com/elenaevdokimov7/...31174198284290


    https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1510142486454362114


    https://twitter.com/mission_russian/...12837237825545
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/akarlin0/status/1509976477097504774

    Nope, not credible. There's zero confirmation of anything like this anywhere. Putin's speech has English subtitles, easily faked. Note that the tweet was dated yesterday — April 1.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I couldn't find it anywhere else... sounds like some April 1st hoax...


    Edit: Bill beat me to it

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    https://twitter.com/morphonios/statu...35228878184448


    https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/...78502736588804
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    ... in this video, Gonzalo mentions something about eye-gouging of Russian prisoners he ran into going down the torture videos... what he may not know is that that's a nazi ritual... see this article:

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    Many readers may be familiar with all or most of these sources of news and updates. But I thought it'd do no harm to share what's on my own bookmark list.

    I check them all daily, but I don't automatically post new content on this thread — only if it seems important or of specially high quality.

    It's definitely not a complete list. Many Twitter and Telegram members will be getting much more, although usually in smaller bite-sized chunks. I'm very grateful to Ravenlocke for posting so many valuable updates.

    In no particular order:
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    I kind of got sick of so much war info, it took me down now Just too much death and side vs side and if you go look into the western media it makes you sick beyond any kind of normal thing you could consider a healthy brain can produce, there is something very broken in those brains, some kind of mental corruption that i can't find words to describe right now

    Have you heard this song? The US politicians remind me of that old style family still trying to hold into their golden memories and glory, sad and decadent, and unable to understand their time is gone and that they need to let go and let the new people take over


    The US top level government is that old guy in a wheelchair with his golden paper crown, dreaming of past glories while his world decays and crumbles around him

    I feel sad just thinking about it


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    Something tragic, but also funny in a way, or ironic, i don't know, is that the decadent dinosaurs in US gov made the young American kids into dumb uneducated fools so they could control them better and in that way remain in power and have no one rebel or reject that control.

    So now they have a zombie army that soon will have to take over and they (these zombies) won't be able to do anything to keep the ship floating, it's going to sink to the very bottom because their parents and their government made useless idiots out of them

    And that's sad and ironic and other things in several ways. Shooting yourself in the foot in a way that will go into the history books is not fun at all i guess, lol

    And the EU has some suicidal need to follow the Dodo somehow, how long until people realises the emperor has no clothes?

    The next State of the Union address may be a series of TikTok shorts... lmao!

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    War is an illness

    For those who fight it
    For those who live it
    For those who have to watch it

    We all eventually get sick of it, one way or another, it's sad and destructive. We all die in some ways after experiencing war, even if just watching videos about it, it's a thing that you never come back the same as before
    Tired

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