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    https://twitter.com/zrada2022/status...34931742089216

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    Ukraine Torturing Civilians in Donbass
    Ukraine Torturing Civilians in Sloviansk

    By Jake Morphonios

    Blackstone Intelligence

    April 11, 2022

    According to the Chief of Russia's National Defense Control Center, Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, nationalist militants of the Ukrainian territorial defense forces are targeting civilians in the Donbass town of Sloviansk. Mizintsev has commanded Russia's forces in Mariupol since the outbreak of the war.


    Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev (far left) updates Russian President Putin

    According to Mizintsev, the Ukrainian militants are detaining locals and questioning them to see if they have any ties to Russia or have Russian sympathies. The militants check civilians' phones for calls/texts to Russia, subscriptions to Russian social media channels, etc.

    If anything seemingly pro-Russian is discovered, the locals are taken to undisclosed locations and tortured. They are also threatened that unless they pay the nationalists a minimum of $500, they will track down the victim's relatives and rape their wives and daughters. Scores of these civilians who were seen being taken away have not returned home and their fates remain unknown.

    Though, this claim is consistent with the treatment we've seen of other Donbass residents by Ukrainians since the war began, in the fog of war, it's best to take all such reports with a grain of salt until confirmed by verifiable evidence.

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    https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/...52688312049668


    https://twitter.com/realGonzaloLira/...52690962841603


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    https://twitter.com/SpritersEvents/s...49772796518405


    https://twitter.com/SpritersEvents/s...49809895104514


    From Bill:
    As best I can see, this Twitter account has now been suspended, which is why the tweets aren't visible when embedded.

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    • MSNBC Host’s Psychotic Warmongering – Called Out!

    MSNBC host Ali Velshi claims to be a peacenik, but you wouldn’t know it from recent statements he’s made on the air and on Twitter. Velshi even got into something of a tiff with The Greyzone’s Aaron Maté on Twitter after demanding that he United States send armed forces into Ukraine to directly confront Russia, with Maté wondering why Velshi is so eager for World War III in a conflict that was largely of NATO’s own making. Jimmy and The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal discuss the critical events that led up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and why the media so rarely provides this essential historical context.
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    Today's SitRep (situation report) posted on The Saker's blog. (Quite a long one! Really for those readers who want to dig deep into all the details.) As before, I've not embedded the many videos and tweets, some of which are very graphic.
    ~~

    A lot of very big scoops and important updates today.

    The biggest news of this cycle is that yesterday was one of the single worst days of the conflict so far for the UAF: in a single day, the UAF lost over 1,100 people total as killed, wounded, or captured.

    This is in large part due to massive strikes on various transportation/reinforcement hubs such as Dnipro and Nikolayev, which have taken out an estimated 200-300. As mentioned before due to strict new laws, Ukrainians are not allowed to film or report accurately on this, but on social media channels many “remembrances” from the families of the troops lost have appeared, verifying the damage.



    Dnipro has become the major logistics/resupply/reinforcement hub from western Ukraine. Everything going to the cauldron has to pass through there. And Russian reports indicate a lot of the new weaponry and mercenary troops were hit in major Dnipro strikes.

    On top of this another estimated 200-300 have surrendered in Mariupol and many more are due to surrender soon. This happened in several phases. Firstly a huge ‘breakout’ was orchestrated by the trapped Marines of the UAF where they took 30-50 civilian vehicles plus some remaining light armor and put ‘Z’ signs on them to try and trick Russian troops, then tried to storm out of Mariupol towards the north as high command in Kiev promised them support if they can just make it towards Zaporizhzhia oblast. But RF had intercepted every part of their plan and captured/killed all of them.

    Here Wargonzo shows the destroyed vehicles they used and the aftermath of the escape battle:
    https://ok.ru/video/3389452585600

    Then, separate from that group, another large group of Marines surrendered. Videos here:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/NPgRCf29WS14
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/V5CZputaCLJJ

    Not to mention several groups surrendered on the Lugansk axis:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/0ySkC3FfHvkL

    And dozens of troops were liquidated in battles along the Rubizhnoe / Lugansk axis (graphic 18+)
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vTO597qvbvUt
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/tU27vpOkTAov

    And Chechens captured/killed a bunch in Mariupol as well:
    https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/stat...89986906669062

    Meanwhile some of the remaining Marines trapped in the Illych Plant have made videos
    https://ok.ru/video/3390640818816
    https://ok.ru/video/3390640687744

    And here’s a Russian soldier giving more details on the foreign mercenaries
    https://mobile.twitter.com/_TheRepub...89253609955335

    The most interesting bit of info though, is that we have the first confirmation of foreign mercenaries captured amongst the surrendered in Mariupol. ‘Famous’ British mercenary Cossackgundi, real name Aiden Aslin, who fought for the YPG for years in Syria, had his phone call intercepted where he cried about the likelihood of being ‘used for propaganda’ once he’s captured.

    Phone call: https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/stat...54839121018887
    His relatives running his social media account broke the bad news to his tens of thousands of followers:
    https://twitter.com/cossackgundi/sta...68135375077379
    COSSACKGUNDI
    @cossackgundi
    We’ve gotten word from Johnny. “It’s been 48 days, we tried our best to defend Mariupol but we have no choice but to surrender to Russian forces. We have no food and no ammunition. It’s been a pleasure everyone, I hope this war ends soon.””



    At the same time, a video featuring an Afghani mercenary has also appeared: https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/stat...41197302919174

    “With the following information: “#MARIUPOL #NEW 37 Afghan special forces from the Afghanistan Ghani government are embedded with Azov and stuck in Azovstal. After American withdrawal from Afghanistan they were send to Ukraine by the Americans as PMC.

    @wargonzoo reports that the Afghani special forces have requested a safe corridor with the DPR units in Mariupol City, however the Azov militants are withholding the Afghanis from leaving.”

    By the way here’s what Wargonzo himself reports on the big breakthrough/escape that the Ukrainian marines attempted:
    “On a breakthrough from Mariupol. There are many rumors and discrepancies. Here’s what the @wargonzo project knows, I’m breaking it down into numbers and numbers.

    At the time of the breakthrough, there were about 1,500 neo-Nazis (Azov militants and AFU fighters) at the Ilyich plant.

    Of these, about 800 were going to go for a breakthrough in the first column, the rest had to go out along the corridor cut by them.

    The column consisted of about 120 pieces of equipment, including automobiles. At the head was a tank, 2 Gvozdika self-propelled guns and up to 10 infantry fighting vehicles, as well as MTLBs, armored cars and trucks.

    More than 100 Ukrainian marines surrendered. Including the political officer of the 36th Marine Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    More than half of those who were going to break through retreated back to the plant. Several dozen were destroyed by artillery strikes of the NM DPR. Up to 10 groups of 3-4 people were scattered and tried to seep through the environment. The search and elimination operation continues.

    Hence the data on the second smaller breakthrough. We are talking about these wandering groups, which the special forces and fighters at posts enter into battle with if they are detected. Hence, a more thorough check of the car on the Volnovakha-Mariupol highway.

    So no panic.”
    He also reports about 2 retired American “officers” trapped there. Could this be the general everyone is talking about?
    “⚡️”Azov” can eliminate 2 US officers in Mariupol⚡️
    According to the @wargonzo project from sources on the Donbas frontline, based on an analysis of radio intercepts of enemy communications, there are at least two high-ranking retired American officers in the air raid shelters at Azov-Stal.

    According to our sources, they entered Mariupol together with PMC “Academy” and most likely are not active employees of the Pentagon. However, at the same time they are extremely important persons for Washington.

    “These officers are aware of many covert US operations in third countries and are the bearer of information that is extremely sensitive to Washington,” a source familiar with the analysis of radio intercepts told the @wargonzo project.

    It is also noted that in order to conceal this “sensitive information”, the American intelligence services are ready to order the Azov militants to eliminate these two officers. Whether they are alive at the moment is not yet known for sure.”
    With all this news, the end really seems in sight for Mariupol. Troops continue advancing, having fully captured the port and now in the Primorski district in southwest Mariupol. Pretty much all that is left is the Azovstal factory, the Illych factory north of it in the Kalmiuski district, and this last stretch of city in the SW by the port. It’s likely they will wait until the capture of this final piece before focusing fully on the two factory positions and deciding on how to deal with it or whether it should be smoked out in some way.

    Meanwhile Basurin has denied the usage of chem weapons but has stated the DPR forces are instead using ‘flamethrowers’ to burn out the trapped Azovs. Although it appears he’s referring to the RPO-Shmel thermobaric launcher, and not the classic flamethrower most people imagine.

    Also this information is unconfirmed but this is the rumor going around:
    “The Nazi drowning operation is said to begin today in Mariupol..

    At least ten fire engines to be either on the road or already at the factory to start pumping water from the river or sea and pumping water to above-ground ventilation shafts that carry fresh air to the cavernous network of tunnels below the Azovstal metallurgical complex..

    If Azov close the ventilation shafts, they will drown within a few days. If they do not close the ventilation shafts, they will drown in a few days. In any case, the siege of the factory will be terminated in such a way that the factory itself can remain intact..”
    In other news Russian MOD has announced the destruction of the S-300 system supplied by Slovakia:
    https://www.rt.com/russia/553662-s300-missiles-ukraine-slovakia

    There are some conflicting reports because they said it was destroyed south of Dnipro, but there are videos of a new S-300 system also destroyed around Kiev that claim a Russian special forces unit destroyed it on the ground:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/N0mxvnYVX15z

    Could be part of the same system, or something else, hard to tell for now.

    Russian MOD has also announced another use of the Kinzhal hypersonic missile to destroy a very fortified underground command center of the AFU south of Kramatorsk.

    There have been many debates here whether a hypersonic missile can be used as a bunker buster, but clearly Russia is using it as such successfully.

    Kadyrov has also stated that all Ukraine including Kiev will be taken.
    https://news.yahoo.com/chechen-chief...003543233.html

    Whether one wants to regard that as simple braggadocio or truth, we must understand that not only is that a distinct possibility but is also likely. Too many people have now been propagandized by the west to believe Russia somehow “failed” and is incapable of taking the western part of the country, but that is not even close to reality. Russia is not capable of taking it all at the same time from 5 different fronts.

    There’s a huge difference and distinction there. But once Donbass and everything east of the Dnieper is cleared, Russia can and likely will take the rest with concentrated forces. There will likely then be only 2 fronts, one coming up from the south that will cut off Odessa and take Nikolayev and one that returns from the north into Kiev. But we’ll save that for another time as either way that’s far off in the future.

    In logistical news, Poland has reportedly begun its shipment of (supposedly) 100 T-72 tanks and Bmp-1s to Ukraine. While Australia ships Bushmasters.
    https://youtu.be/hFmMVL5NTNg

    In other interesting news which shows that Turkey’s “closing of the Bosphorous” straits was not what it seemed, and was in fact a more than subtle blow against NATO, Turkish defense minister has confirmed that Turkey is strictly prohibiting any NATO ships from passing the straits as well.

    “Turkey will not let NATO warships into the Black Sea,” said Minister of Defense of this country Hulusi Akar. At the same time, he referred to the Montreux Convention and said that the passage would be closed to warships of countries that do not have access to the Black Sea, A Haber TV channel reports.

    Akar also admitted that the presence of mines in the sea could be deliberate: they could have been fired as part of a plan to pressure Ankara to let NATO minesweepers into the Black Sea, which is contrary to the Montreux Convention.

    “We have a suspicion that the mines were deliberately introduced. Perhaps they were fired as part of some plan to put pressure on us in order to let NATO minesweepers [through the straits] into the Black Sea. But we are committed to the rules of the Montreux [Convention] and do not Let warships enter the Black Sea,” the minister said.
    https://www.rt.com/news/553636-turkey-bars-nato-warships-from-black-sea

    So much for NATO solidarity.

    Also, the first formal appeal for the following: “In the State Duma of Russia, Crimean deputy Mikhail Sheremet today proposed to unite the Republic of Crimea with the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions into the Tauride province within the Russian Federation. “Residents of the regions do not seem to mind – they raise Russian flags everywhere and complain about the attitude of the Ukrainian authorities.”

    American Secretary of Defense Lloyd addresses Ukrainian troops:
    https://twitter.com/SecDef/status/1513205552700174340

    This comes on the heels of new revelations of how deeply embedded U.S. and NATO command structures (and troops) are in Ukraine. A French journalist here describes what he saw in his time in Ukraine:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/aVZeyycQgXBk/ (video with translations)

    In short, he says he was shocked to see American generals running the entire show on the ground, and he says the names of them will be revealed in his new exposé in the French Figaro newspaper this week.

    This is further proof that this conflict is truly NATO vs. Russia, and NATO is losing badly.

    Another report states: “the United States is moving its advanced headquarters units to the western borders of Ukraine. In particular, the 5th Corps is being relocated. This suggests that it is not the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that controls military operations, but NATO officers. And we are at war not with some puppet regime in Kiev, but with the collective West.”

    Of course as things progress towards a potential showdown, we continue to hear how badly unprepared NATO really is:
    https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1513149802527313929

    But a new 8 mile convoy of Russian reinforcements is heading towards the northern front:
    https://twitter.com/Dr_ShahidPk/stat...15975847223296
    https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/stat...985026/photo/1

    And other videos pour in of the long lines of Russian reinforcements in preparation for Phase 2
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/qGXWoFHX6PPF

    By the way, we were told to believe that these same Russian troops were “out of ammo, fuel, food” etc. Only further proof of the utter laughable propaganda from the west and Ukraine.

    And to speak a little more on Phase 2, as continuation of the last report. Here is some further corroboration of things I’ve been saying:
    “⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside
    Mi-6 warned the Office of the President and the General Staff that Russia is changing the tactics of warfare, now there will be no deep breakthroughs into the interior of Ukraine, but a methodical sweep of squares with phased campaigns. The new commander of the Russian troops will use the experience of the war in Syria, transforming it under Ukraine, in order to achieve success in specific military operations.”
    There is a video that is a must-watch as companion piece to the last SitRep where we discussed the Fort Benning internal U.S. Army report about the superiorities that Russian BTGs have over American equivalent BCTs.

    This video is a must watch from about the 27 minute mark to the end.
    https://youtu.be/_CMby_WPjk4?t=1578

    This army specialist gives a talk to West Point, detailing his discoveries and insights into Russian operations in Ukraine. He basically confirms every single point of the Fort Benning report but in greater detail and with explanatory visual aids, etc.
    Some of the highlights of his presentation:
    • Russia has the most advanced and dense, data-linked air defense on earthenware
    • In a war against Russia, U.S. army cannot expect much air assistance for at least the first several weeks. Even stealth aircraft will not be of much use for various reasons he explains
    • Russian EW (electronic warfare) is much more advanced and more ‘combat-ized’ than in the U.S. RF utilizes it in combat squads whereas U.S. barely has any and only at the divisional level
    • Russian EW shuts down all communications in huge areas along the front, no cellphones, military radios etc. They break GPS links with drones, making them useless and can even fry the fuses on artillery shells midflight.
    • U.S. army produces 10x the frequency emissions of a Ukrainian brigade, which would make it extremely visible to all sorts of Russian EW, drones, advanced weapons
    • Russia has far more artillery than U.S. and far greater variety of munition types
    And there’s much more.

    And here’s another corroboration of what I wrote previously, about how artillery is the only real effective force Ukraine has left, and is how Ukraine has created the vast majority of its kills against Russian forces. Pretty much all the western supplied weapons have been proven near worthless and the legacy soviet artillery systems continue to be the workhorses creating results.
    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na...2/60-1-0-11858

    As for NATO and the U.S., many people don’t seem to know that the U.S. is really not as trained or powerful as they’d like you to believe. I’ve previously highlighted how in the past month alone the U.S. has almost suffered more aircraft losses than Russia, and U.S. is not even in a war. Multiple F-22, F-35, F-18s, Awacs, and Ospreys all lost in the last month. Another good example is, the U.S. has held tank competitions in Europe for the past decade called the Strong Europe Tank Challenge.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong...Tank_Challenge

    You can check the results yourself. The highest that the U.S. team ever scored was 3rd place. Other years they were 6th and 7th place, damn-near last place – bottom of the barrel.

    Meanwhile, in Russia’s own Tank Biathlon hosted as part of its International Army Games (over 30 countries), here are Russia’s results for the last few years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_biathlon



    Gold in every single year.

    And as many of you have probably seen several years ago India, operating the Russian Su-30’s, badly humiliated and dominated the British RAF piloting NATO’s most advanced ‘Typhoon’ jets.
    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indi...the-uk-1204336

    You can see many articles on this:
    https://www.rediff.com/news/report/d...s/20150811.htm




    The most shocking part about the humiliation is the fact that there were different rounds, first 1v1, then 2v2, and then 2v1 of each variety. Not only did India win with a 12-0 perfect score, but even when 1 Indian Su-30mki faced off against 2 simultaneous Eurofighter Typhoons, it beat them both 2 on 1.

    But the western public is so propagandized they can’t even imagine that their equipment might be inferior, or worse – that their actual personnel may be inferior to those of other ‘lesser’ countries.

    What most people don’t know, and wouldn’t know unless they followed the Ukraine events intimately since the 2014 days, is that when U.S. instructors first started pouring in, in the subsequent years, they were often viewed as laughing stocks by the Ukrainian veterans of the Donbass war. They felt they had nothing to learn from the “elite” U.S. instructors and in fact knew more about combat/warfare than they did.

    The fact of the matter is, many Ukrainian troops are much more experienced and trained than even U.S. equivalent troops, AND the Ukrainian troops are better armed. This fact is corroborated by the video posted above in the West Point presentation, where he explains that most U.S. units don’t even have anti-aircraft systems and even Manpads in the modern U.S. army are in fact not widespread. There are videos like this one:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/UUidj4zPmDAV

    Which show a Georgian legion in Ukraine, and they are FAR better armed than any U.S. equivalent army combat unit. They have every of the latest weapons, bristling with firepower. There are other photos showing 4 soldiers, each one of them armed with a manpad of a different type. The fact is, Ukraine is so flush with advanced ‘western’ weaponry that many of their teams are simply armed better than any standard western counterpart.

    So this goes back to the concept that Russia is truly fighting not only a NATO equivalent force here, but arguably a force stronger than most NATO countries. The only thing Ukraine is missing is the U.S. airforce, which is at the end of the day by far the most powerful and important weapon the U.S. has. In every other category U.S. stands no chance against Russia.

    I’ll leave with this map of the Donbass cauldron that can give a good idea of the force dispositions there. The circled red is where the Kinzhal was said to have struck a command bunker by the MOD. If you consider each one of those blue crosses as a company of about 300 men, it would roughly give a disposition of 40-50k in the cauldron. If you believe the higher figures as Basurin himself has stated over 90-100k for the cauldron, then count each blue stroke as a battalion.

    The white lines represent breakthroughs, like the one south of Niu York (north of Donetsk city) and near Svitlodark towards Bakhmut by LPR forces. At the NW end where you see Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, Russian forces are pushing in towards Krestyshche. But for the most part not much progress is expected until Phase 2 begins in full. With all the things happening in Mariupol now, that finally seems to be closing in.

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    Some analysts are already looking ahead to a conclusion of the hostilities where the Russians would hold their own war crimes tribunals, whether or not they were recognized by the west.

    This interesting comment was posted on The Saker's blog below the long SitRep copied above, and I'm sharing it here because I didn't actually know this about the legal status of mercenaries in a war. As best I know, no-one's been talking about their potential fate once they're captured.

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    POWs are treated as a lawful combatant and therefore a Protected Person which for a soldier is as a Prisoner of War (POW) until the soldier has faced a competent tribunal (GC III Art 5). That tribunal may decide that the person is a mercenary using criteria in APGC77 or some domestic law equivalent.

    At that point the mercenary becomes an unlawful combatant but they must still be “treated with humanity and, in case of trial, shall not be deprived of the rights of fair and regular trial”, because they are still covered by GC IV Art 5.

    If after a regular trial, a captured soldier is found to be a mercenary, then they can expect to be treated as common criminals and may face execution. As they are not POWs they can not expect repatriation at the end of the war.

    The best known, post World War II, example of this was on June 28 1976 an Angolan court sentenced four mercenaries to death and nine others to prison terms ranging from 16 to 30 years. The three Britons and an American were shot by a firing squad on July 10 1976.

    As Russia has been assiduously following international law, it is expected that they will continue to do so.
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    Here are a couple of extra snippets about the British mercenary who turned up surrendering with some unit in Mariupol, in the context of being without food or ammo:


    The merc's account was used by his family at first to say he went offline since last Thursday.


    The feed having the intercepted phone call gives the detail:

    Have been trying to escape for three weeks.


    This guy claims to have served alongside the YPG in Syria, so, it is entirely possible he may face criminal charges from there as well.

    Is this a sterling example? Counts as a survivor, so far. Who knows what this guy has seen, probably no actual battles, but perhaps mixes of random and first degree murder? Sounds pretty gloomy so far, trying to rely on whatever may have been expected from Kiev. All you had to do was guard a very strategic location around some rich guy's secret. Have a drink on me--the Azov Sea!

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    As best I know, no-one's been talking about their potential fate once they're captured.

    I am guessing it is similar to having "human rights", which is about the same as I would have, if I leave this country and get in trouble elsewhere. If I am arrested, they cannot torture me, and I have to receive food and medicine, but my American rights such as an attorney, speedy trial, ability to post bail, etc., are gone. I have no protection against the sentencing, such as the first famous case I remember of an American putting down a piece of chewing gum in Singapore and getting thirty cane lashes.

    And so yes, once captured, then Russia will probably at least humanely treat the prisoners. No one else is likely to have much say in what happens to them.

    Their main problem is to survive to be captured like the guy above. If not, anywhere on the field there will not be mercy.

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    https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/st...06451588632577


    https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/st...01594999787535
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    About Cossackgundi
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    That would be another interesting legal question. Here, I don't think you can actively serve in the armed forces of another country. So we don't know if this guy is "British citizen" or not really, nor exactly who employed him. Maybe Ukraine Armed Forces do not care if you are Ukranian, or, maybe this guy had become Ukranian, except then why is he calling family back home? Maybe they have duals like Israel?

    It is not going to affect anyone's opinion much what his "status" is. "Gone" is perhaps the most satisfying part of it.

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    https://twitter.com/TelegraphWorld/s...33512837079040


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    A few hours ago, it got bigger:


    "In the city of Mariupol ... as a result of successful offensive operations by the Russian armed forces and police units of the Donetsk People's Republic, 1,026 Ukrainian servicemen of the 36th Marine Brigade voluntarily laid down their arms and surrendered", Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov told reporters.

    Among the surrendered are 162 officers and 47 female soldiers, the official noted.



    I'm guessing maybe that was it for Ilyich plant. Doesn't say. I am pretty sure it is a new batch for Tuesday, since the previous one of around 800 has already coughed up:


    ...the interrogation of the surrendered deputy commander of the Ukrainian 36th Marine Brigade Rostislav Lomtev.

    The shape they were in:

    ...According to the Monday-published post, "the mountain of wounded makes up almost half of the brigade."

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    I was mistaken about the previous assumption, it is quite regular for militaries to recruit foreigners, to the extent that Bahrain hardly has any Bahrainis in the armed forces.


    The difference between a "volunteer" and "signing up for the regular military" is tricky. Unpaid employee? If in the Marines, that counts as state forces, and apparently you can do that.

    Maybe I was mixed up with governmental offices. You can't have those in other countries.

    Three tours of a frontline against civilians, that was impressive, wasn't it?


    There may not be a lot of advantages to being a POW: communication, lack of interrogation, supposed to be paid for any work. Theoretically you don't face additional criminal charges just for being captured. You would be let go reasonably soon after the end of conflict.


    None of those terms exactly mean anything, such as "unlawful combatant" was revised by the United States during the Guantanamo era, when prisoners were trying to press the Justice Department to get hearings and trials:


    In the United States, the Military Commissions Act of 2006 codified the legal definition of this term and invested the U.S. President with broad discretion to determine whether a person may be designated an unlawful enemy combatant under United States law.


    Along with various Wiki information:


    Title 10 of the United States Code was amended to include a definition of an "unlawful enemy combatant" as
    a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al-Qaida, or associated forces); or a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.


    No alien unlawful enemy combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.

    The term "competent tribunal" is not defined in the Act itself. It is defined in the US Army Field Manual, section 27–10, for the purpose of determining whether a person is or is not entitled to prisoner of war status, and consists of a board of not less than three officers.


    The term 'lawful enemy combatant' means a person who is —

    (A) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;
    (B) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or
    (C) a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States."


    If your command breaks down, even as the Army, you might become unlawful. That describes most of Ukraine. Judging by this standard, three Russian Lieutenants could declare almost everyone illegal and court-martial them. Depends on what Russian Code says.

    But in the UN Mercenary Convention:

    States Parties shall not recruit, use, finance or train mercenaries and shall prohibit such activities in accordance with the provisions of the present Convention.


    The U. S. says a state can hire a militia, the U. N. seems to say otherwise. The U. S. seemed to say Taliban, Al Qaeda are not lawful, since they were not hired by states.


    These will be some interesting cases.

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    Dear Friends, I've heard from Malisa, who is on sabbatical right now. She asked me if I could post this on her behalf.



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    A soldier died

    It is scary to lose friends, relatives and relatives, but, oddly enough, it is easier than losing strangers. When loved ones leave, they leave a memory. How they smoked on the balcony, how they argued until they were hoarse at an exhibition in Moscow. Or how they clapped their hands at the entrance, they say we'll meet again ...

    And how to lose a stranger? This can only be in Russian thinking.
    Somewhere there, an unknown, unfamiliar guy fell to the ground. And he was gone. There was a void. You could get to know him, you could discuss something, you could joke or teach him. Now you can't. He's gone, but he's still with you. Because Russians last.

    We are connected in one endless continuity. And the fighter you didn’t know near Stalingrad, and the one that liberated your city as part of the 256th rifle, and now lies on the “Bagpipe”, and the guy who remained somewhere near Kursk - all of them are you. It's just that now you have to do a little more in this world. Make it kinder, more honest and better. Both for myself and for him.He, that guy, is now behind you. He is Denchik, Ilyukha, those two helicopter pilots in Karabakh, your great-grandfather near Staraya Rusa, and private 256th. A lot of them. Known and unknown. And you can't betray them.
    This is the meaning of Russian. His ongoing, inseparable being.

    Sleep, soldier. Whatever you haven't done, we'll do.

    And live forever. Stay behind me. Cover and support. After all, now we are forever one.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/SpritersEvents/s...49772796518405


    https://twitter.com/SpritersEvents/s...49809895104514


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    As best I can see, this Twitter account has now been suspended, which is why the tweets aren't visible when embedded.

    Yes Spriter*events have been suspended, they just posted the names of the Russian reporters that reported about the Afghan special forces embedded with Azov. They were previously suspended under the name Spriter.
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    https://twitter.com/zrada2022/status...82393938206721


    https://twitter.com/NuestraIraSLG/st...20444924186626


    https://twitter.com/1_plus_1equals3/...58383028101123
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    https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/stat...68996953739270


    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/sta...01799276003331


    https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1514219431718760448
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