Pole Shift, Sooner than later?

[truthseekerdan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eyij_LuL2cw

[Humble Janitor]

The Planet X/Niburu/Tyche/Elenin conspiracy is something that just keeps evolving every time new information is put out.

There's a huge movement on ATS to discredit anyone who posts information regarding this subject.

I've heard that you need to use infrared technology just to view this brown dwarf.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update from Lucas...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/02/21

Viking

[truthseekerdan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iMjLCp6AHz4

[Teakai]

More foreshadowing?

Is Tyche - Tycus of the movie?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pXREZ4D4NiE

[Teakai]

Posted by Icecold (here)
I don't have a dread feeling about MAR 15.

Do any of the psychics or channelers have anything further to add?

Forgot to say - maybe it's not something to dread - from a spiritual perspective, I mean.

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ij62WVDCuaU

In this video, among several references made about current «affairs» , there is also one about the so called ,shift.
PS - Take it as you will.

Namasté

[truthseekerdan]

For those interested in researching Planet X, here is a good place to start: http://planetx-hercolubus-nibiru.blogspot.com/

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gQlwbRfrd2o

[Mandala]

Alex Jones discussion on poles.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UsoHtOWhz2w

[passiglight]

Maybe this is why Bill is so confident of the effect of the solar activity energy not impacting on us .......

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post88224

and if you scroll down to post 171 James Horak explaining these EMV's

AND whitestars thread here ,,....

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...INVASION-*LIE*

Post 5,,,,,,,this is very very interesting

[truthseekerdan]

Coast to Coast AM: Doomsday & Brown Dwarf Star

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwiufK491w

Playlist

[Teakai]

Posted by passiglight (here)
Maybe this is why Bill is so confident of the effect of the solar activity energy not impacting on us .......

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post88224

and if you scroll down to post 171 James Horak explaining these EMV's

AND whitestars thread here ,,....

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...INVASION-*LIE*

Post 5,,,,,,,this is very very interesting

Hi Passiglight - Bill said there would be no pole shift in March. I'm not sure if your post is intended to be relevant to that statement.
I haven't heard Bill mention anything about being sure that the sun's solar energy won't be impacting us - maybe that was from another thread?

Unless, of course, one feels that the sun is the only catalyst for a pole shift.

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
Coast to Coast AM: Doomsday & Brown Dwarf Star

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwiufK491w

Playlist

Hi Teakai, this is also a good website to check: http://www.rabbithole2.com/

Dan ♥

[passiglight]

Hi teakai,
yes i would suggest the sun as being a major catalyst for geomagnetic field conditions, but i would also suggest that HAARP could be an unknown factor here + one would have to factor in the various conditions in the earths core, but i am inclined to think of solar activity as being the biggest player here.

Therefore i'm thinking that there are interactions with the sun that are having a direct effect on the geophysical/magnetic conditions as a whole.

Outside conditions e.g. our system moving through a dense photon belt, meteors and asteroids crashing into the sun

changing solar conditions in the suns composition etc...

This business with nibiru is very questionable,,,,,,, there is nothing ( apart from nasa's secrets) but guesswork right now where this planet is and even if it is going to enter our near orbit system...

So that leaves us back with good old mrs shiny

[Teakai]

Posted by passiglight (here)
Hi teakai,
yes i would suggest the sun as being a major catalyst for geomagnetic field conditions, but i would also suggest that HAARP could be an unknown factor here + one would have to factor in the various conditions in the earths core, but i am inclined to think of solar activity as being the biggest player here.

Therefore i'm thinking that there are interactions with the sun that are having a direct effect on the geophysical/magnetic conditions as a whole.

Outside conditions e.g. our system moving through a dense photon belt, meteors and asteroids crashing into the sun

changing solar conditions in the suns composition etc...

This business with nibiru is very questionable,,,,,,, there is nothing ( apart from nasa's secrets) but guesswork right now where this planet is and even if it is going to enter our near orbit system...

So that leaves us back with good old mrs shiny

Hi Passiglight - I get that the sun may play a big part in earth magnetics and that an incoming planet/brown dwarf 'might' be speculation - but it would seem strange for someone as open minded and reasonable as Bill comes across as being to base a conclusion that a pole shift won't happen in March based on just one possible cause.

[passiglight]

Hi Teakai,,,

Hmmm,, not quite sure what you mean there about Bill ?

I've no idea what he bases his conclusions on,,,But if i was to guess,, i would say he's got some data we haven't,, but i honestly couldn't say how or where he draws his conclusions from

I found these comments he made on thread,, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...SIBILITY/page2

i hope he doesn't mind me quoting them here........

quote Bill Ryan

"Hi there -

Yes, I do think 'Planet X' may well exist. It may be a brown dwarf star. See Andy Lloyd's excellent website http://www.darkstar1.co.uk. I've talked at length with Bill Deagle about this personally.

If it's a brown dwarf, it radiates in the infrared and is maybe somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter, sweeping in form the south. That's one very plausible reason for the SPT (the South Pole Telescope).

a) There's no way it's going to be right next to the sun - it would have been noticed in the last eclipse! And if it was this close we'd certainly know about it as the geophysical effects would be significant (and that may be an understatement).

b) No-one's going to take snapshot of it with a digital camera at sunset, and take tens of thousands of amateur astronomers completely by surprise!

c) Sunset is when sundogs almost always appear. They can be seen with the naked eye, and are not a lens flare artifact - they are formed by refractions between cloud layers (basically). They're like a sort of mirage (again, very basically). They DO usually look like the image Viking posted - but not always."

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Inelia (here)
I too have been wondering why the powers that be are hiding Planet X. It is being shielded on various levels, including RV. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does it exist? I think so.

It's a good question. It may be because at the moment they're not confident they can answer questions about it.

It's hard for a President (or a Five Star General, or the Director of National Intelligence) to face the press, take questions, and answer "Gee, we just don't know."

They may also be waiting for the exactly optimum opportunity to make an announcement and then let that be a huge distraction while something else is quietly happening elsewhere.

One thing I feel sure of is that it's got nothing to do with ETs or the Anunnaki. It's a physical problem. A large bowling ball is being rolled through the solar system - and while it won't hit anything, it will probably create gravitational and electromagnetic effects. These of course may already have started (inasmuch as various forms of solar activity may be triggered as the large object approaches).

Posted by shiva777 (here)
things you might find interesting regarding planet X......I have heard from a number of unrelated sources that Planet X was blown up in 2003..Swerdlow,Benedicte,Ashayana Deane,Lisa Renee and others...feels right to me..only it's fragments are floating around now

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/he...rcolobus_0.htm

Nonsense. Another asteroid belt would have been created. Someone might have noticed!

I'm sure Bill, as usual, can be relied on here,,,

and to be honest i think his comments are just about the most reliable bit of info i can find anywhere about this mysterious planet.

cosmic love

[passiglight]

I'm guessing here teakai with stuff that could affect geomagnetic field as a whole.

But it does seem that either the sun, or planet x or earths core or possibly HAARP could be the mitigating factors here,,,,

Planet x is too far away at the mo,, and HAARP,well i really have no idea if that can flip the field or not,, same goes for earths core,,,

So that only leaves the sun for me to be the main agitator here...

[Teakai]

Posted by passiglight (here)
I'm guessing here teakai with stuff that could affect geomagnetic field as a whole.

But it does seem that either the sun, or planet x or earths core or possibly HAARP could be the mitigating factors here,,,,

Planet x is too far away at the mo,, and HAARP,well i really have no idea if that can flip the field or not,, same goes for earths core,,,

So that only leaves the sun for me to be the main agitator here...

Hi Passiglight - how far away is planet X - do you know?
There is meant to be some kind of heavenly body entering our galactic something?? come March - which is why some people are thinking that its magnetics are going to effect the first of the pole shifts.
I'm guessing as it enters it will grab earth's magnetics to it's own. Then, as it passes it will drag earth around with it and then let go as it moves out of range again.
(I wonder what stops them from just clinging to each other like real magnets do? Unless maybe it's a repulsion instead of an attraction. Dunno.)

Is that incomming heavenly body different from what people are referring to as Niburu - or planet X? I have tried looking all this up at the NASA site, but numbers in large doses do my head in.

[Teakai]

Posted by passiglight (here)
Hi Teakai,,,

Hmmm,, not quite sure what you mean there about Bill ?

I've no idea what he bases his conclusions on,,,But if i was to guess,, i would say he's got some data we haven't,, but i honestly couldn't say how or where he draws his conclusions from

You said that perhaps this is why Bill says the sun will not have an impact and then you posted the article about the sun and those things around it. That's where Bill came into it, and I was just responding to that.

Posted by passiglight (here)
I found these comments he made on thread,, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...SIBILITY/page2

i hope he doesn't mind me quoting them here........

quote Bill Ryan

"Hi there -

Yes, I do think 'Planet X' may well exist. It may be a brown dwarf star. See Andy Lloyd's excellent website http://www.darkstar1.co.uk. I've talked at length with Bill Deagle about this personally.

If it's a brown dwarf, it radiates in the infrared and is maybe somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter, sweeping in form the south. That's one very plausible reason for the SPT (the South Pole Telescope).

a) There's no way it's going to be right next to the sun - it would have been noticed in the last eclipse! And if it was this close we'd certainly know about it as the geophysical effects would be significant (and that may be an understatement).

b) No-one's going to take snapshot of it with a digital camera at sunset, and take tens of thousands of amateur astronomers completely by surprise!

c) Sunset is when sundogs almost always appear. They can be seen with the naked eye, and are not a lens flare artifact - they are formed by refractions between cloud layers (basically). They're like a sort of mirage (again, very basically). They DO usually look like the image Viking posted - but not always."

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Inelia (here)
I too have been wondering why the powers that be are hiding Planet X. It is being shielded on various levels, including RV. It doesn't make any sense to me. Does it exist? I think so.

It's a good question. It may be because at the moment they're not confident they can answer questions about it.

It's hard for a President (or a Five Star General, or the Director of National Intelligence) to face the press, take questions, and answer "Gee, we just don't know."They may also be waiting for the exactly optimum opportunity to make an announcement and then let that be a huge distraction while something else is quietly happening elsewhere.

One thing I feel sure of is that it's got nothing to do with ETs or the Anunnaki. It's a physical problem. A large bowling ball is being rolled through the solar system - and while it won't hit anything, it will probably create gravitational and electromagnetic effects. These of course may already have started (inasmuch as various forms of solar activity may be triggered as the large object approaches).

Posted by shiva777 (here)
things you might find interesting regarding planet X......I have heard from a number of unrelated sources that Planet X was blown up in 2003..Swerdlow,Benedicte,Ashayana Deane,Lisa Renee and others...feels right to me..only it's fragments are floating around now

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/he...rcolobus_0.htm

Nonsense. Another asteroid belt would have been created. Someone might have noticed!

I'm sure Bill, as usual, can be relied on here,,,

and to be honest i think his comments are just about the most reliable bit of info i can find anywhere about this mysterious planet.

cosmic love

I'm confused - what reliable information have you gotten from this post?

Also - according to some - the planet/dark star isn't close to the sun, but it's positioning is behind the sun - though I don't know if that's still the case, I'm thinking maybe not and that's why WISE has been shut down and why a large rectangle of google sky has been blacked out.

[passiglight]

Hi Teakai,,

The main thing i got of any reliability is that Bill seems to confirm he thinks planet X exists.... quoted in the first quote ,,,(in the post above i had to quote bill twice,,,i wasn't sure how to mingle both quotes so i did a normal quote in " " see post #256)

Secondly that when the planet gets close enough it is likely to cause gravitational and electromagnetic effects,,, i think this is probably quite an understatement from Bill ..but none the less infers what we are saying about planet x causing some upheaval,,

From what i've gleamed,,,,researching on the net,,,,,planet x is no where near the direction of the sun and is coming in from the opposite direction broadly speaking behind jupiter,,,,,, yes when our planet goes round the backward side of the sun i guess there might be alignment of sorts,, but planet x is generally speaking coming from outside of the normal orbits of our solar system and broadly speaking i don't think this has any bearing as to our sun which is in the middle of our system if you see what i mean,,,,,,,

Wrongly or not i think of planet x as coming from behind us, which is probably not a good way to think of it,,, but in my mind if i put the sun in front of us, (because it's in the middle of our system), then i place planet x as coming from behind us because it's coming from outside of our solar system and heading inwards. sorry if that seems a bit confusing.

As far as i am aware planet x was out in the oort field,, which is quite a long way away,,,,not in space terms a great distance but in relation to our system,a long way out indeed..and quite far beyond most of our planetary system,, i think pluto is the nearest object of any planetary significance any where near the oort field and even that is not very close to the oort field.

I read a quote saying planet x traveling at 2 million mph,or something like that but i can't be sure of this,,and i have no idea whether that is real or not,i simply don't know,,, one report i read or watched, said it would be need to be traveling at 80% of light speed to cover the immense distance of its orbit......this is not right, but it's a consequence of the lack of info surrounding the planet..

Some things i read said it might get here in 2012 some in 13,, but i just don't have a clue,,,,thing is,,,yes i know it's black so it's not gonna be easy to see against the blackness of space,,,,,,but,,,once it gets close enough for amateur astronomers to see it,,and some of them can see a mighty long way out into space,then at least the cat will be out of the bag..

They roughly know the orbit of planet x and they have a good idea where it should be, so in theory soon as it gets close enough i would imagine every amateur astronomer on this planet will be hoping to be the first to bag it.

Lets not forget although planet x is dark in colour it is bloody big,,,,,so where ever it goes will cause substantial effects and wobbles in the orbits of the other planets in our system,, so even if it can't be seen, it's path will be easily recognizable to the astronomers,,,,,,bit like bills bowling ball analogy.

Don't have any idea about any planetary object coming our way in march teakai,, maybe there is a comet or something due in,,,,,,haven't heard anything myself,,,,,,,but i'm no astronomer lol

And planet x has got soo many names i just don't know them all,, but i believe tyche, planet x, nibiru, dark star, homonculous (i think), are some them..

Hope that helps clear things up a bit, but i have to admit i'm pretty confused about all this stuff myself,, can you tell lmao :-)))

One thing i am sure of,,,,if planet x is real ,,,,and on the orbit they say,when it does get here,, it will cause absolute havoc,,,,,,,geomagnetic field shiftsss and the machinations of the NWO's ambitions to exterminate us,,,,,,,,will seem like tea in the park..

Cosmic love