WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Ravenlocke]

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[Ravenlocke]

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[shaberon]

Posted by Brigantia (here)
I am sceptical about Russian designs on Sweden on the basis of an 18th century ruler of Russia's empire

I doubt they are really after any more territory, but are extremely serious about buildups around their frontiers.

I am also going to tentatively surmise that Bush's statement "Putin changed" is the telltale sign that, perhaps, Putin was known at WEF and perhaps in some other ways as maybe being interested in the Liberal system, but then actually was not. At that point Bush is more favorable to PNAC, i. e. mainly from the Democratic Party, and they start working on the situation that is being shut down now.


Given the easy to trace pattern of incursions to Russia that have happened, we can add that the particular neighbor, Ukraine, has itself mainly been the site of the Holocaust in a repetitive way since the 1600s. Here is a response given to Azov Surrenders which blames Zionism for Russophobia:




It is astonishing how much was invested by the Jewish Lobby into cooperation with self-proclaimed Nazis (Banderites) in Ukraine. As a result, the whole edifice of the profitable schema of holobiz is going down crushing.

The US-controlled Poland and the Baltic states have been openly glorifying Nazi collaborators during state-sponsored parades; these governments also allowed the demolition of the monuments to the Soviet soldiers who died in a fight against fascism during WWII.

The ADL (important representative of the Jewish Lobby) proclaimed that Ukrainian Nazis are good Nazis because they “don’t attack Jews and Jewish institutions.” For Jews, attacking and murdering “others” (non-Jews) is obviously alright.

In Israel, “Israelis have staged a protest in support of the Azov Battalion. In the first photo, a woman can be seen holding a sign that reads “Let my Azov go!” in Russian (referencing “Let my people go!”). Meanwhile, Russians continue to photograph captured Azov Battalion members and their slightly right-wing tattoos.”

What was this loud and institutionalized Jewish squealing “nazi-hitler” for? To create a profitable schema of reparations from the good-hearted people belonging to the Western civilization? There are no limits to Talmudic depravity: The Jewish Community at large sided with Banderites (self-proclaimed neo-Nazis) in Ukraine because of Banderites hatred towards Russians. The rabid Russophobia has finally exposed the true nature of Zionists. Close your hideous museums already and start paying reparations to Palestinians and Syrians who have been suffering from Israeli-committed crimes.



Again, on this, we would say there is a drastic use of Lie applied to Symbols. There is apparent enmity but nefarious cooperation between these two who have taken the Swastika and Hexagram for their own purposes. But those two are unified. The swastika is a rotating cross, and this is Spin, whether you want to think Quantum, or mechanical, or a gyroscope, or whatever, it is simply the prime motion of the universe. Less obvious to the eyes, it produces Torque, which in geometry, means the swastika would cause a vertical axis with Zenith and Nadir. So the four-fold symbolism of the cross spins into a meaning with two more directions, i. e. making a total of six, giving the sixfold nature of the Hexagram.

A gyroscope is particularly obvious about this, and, its ability to remain aligned upright is then, to the human being, called Dhruva or Pole Star. Cosmically, that is where the earth's axis points, and personally, it is the opposite direction from earth's core.


Because Spin is what would make the gyroscope stable, swastikas are often used for "stability" on meditative seat covers:







It is really a fly in my ointment when these babboons associate it with their fatalistic doomsday programs.

[shaberon]

Well, here is a moment for the opposite from the above. This is closer to what I and others call the West, which contains the "Collective West" in the way Russia means it.


First of all, the British method, "divide and rule according to the Persian model", has a fairly fixed historical precedent:


Following their defeats at the hands of the Greeks, and plagued by internal rebellions that hindered their ability to fight foreign enemies, the Persians adopted a policy of divide-and-rule. Beginning in 449 BCE, the Persians attempted to aggravate the growing tensions between Athens and Sparta, and would even bribe politicians to achieve these aims. Their strategy was to keep the Greeks distracted with in-fighting, so as to stop the tide of counterattacks reaching the Persian Empire. Their strategy was largely successful, and there was no open conflict between the Greeks and Persia until 396 BCE, when the Spartan king Agesilaus briefly invaded Asia Minor.


Also, in the whole history of writing, it seems to me that the general practice of Empire Runs from Akkadia to the United States. That is explained in a much larger article, from where we can include the following on Persian Empires, at the end of the Parthian and beginning of the Sassanid or Sassanian:


After Ardashir I overthrew the last Parthian king Artabanus IV (r. 213-224 CE), he embarked on a series of military campaigns to tighten control over Parthian lands and centralize the government.


This moment is noteworthy, because he is fixated on what I would call "western Zoroastrianism", which is what raises to the status of a supreme cosmic being:


His eternal opponent, Ahriman (also Angra Mainyu), is all-evil

Zoroastrianism informed the Sassanian government and became the state religion, but this did not mean that people of other faiths were excluded from public service or persecuted under Ardashir I or his son and successor Shapur I (r. 240-270 CE). Shapur I, in fact, welcomed people of all faiths into the empire and allowed Jews and Buddhists to build temples and Christians to erect churches. Shapur I saw himself as an embodiment of the holy warrior king advancing the truth of Zoroastrianism against the forces of darkness and evil epitomized by the Roman Empire. Shapur I was almost universally successful in his engagements against Rome and became a model for his successors.


Although these were Assyrian and other Eastern Christians, over time, the Persians seem to have conflated the whole thing with the Roman State:


The religious tolerance of the Sassanian Empire was continued until the reign of Shapur II (309-379 CE) who saw Christianity as a Roman faith, which sought to subvert the truth of Zoroastrianism. Under Shapur II's reign, the Avesta (Zoroastrian sacred work) was committed to writing and Christians were persecuted throughout the empire. Religious tolerance continued to be extended to those of other faiths not associated with Rome and so Shapur II's persecutions are regarded as more of a political than religiously-motivated policy.


At basically the same time, there is the appearance of:

Mani (AD 216–274), in the Sasanian Empire.


Of his Zoroastrian system:

It revered Mani as the final prophet after Zoroaster, Gautama Buddha, and Jesus.

Mani believed that the teachings of Gautama Buddha, Zoroaster, and Jesus were incomplete, and that his revelations were for the entire world, calling his teachings the "Religion of Light".


So he kind of personally announced himself, and continued to promote the extreme view of the prince of darkness. After he did:


It thrived between the third and seventh centuries, and at its height was one of the most widespread religions in the world. Manichaean churches and scriptures existed as far east as China and as far west as the Roman Empire. It was briefly the main rival to Christianity before the spread of Islam in the competition to replace classical paganism. Beginning with the pagan emperor Diocletian, Manichaeism was persecuted by the Roman state and was eventually stamped out in the Roman Empire.


It seems that the extreme view of Ahriman is what either (a) became the vernacular Satan which is not quite the same as what we have discussed, or (b) simply itself became the object of veneration, by continued conflation of the Creator or Demiurge and tribalistic Yahweh. In other words a materialistic or materialized god for subjected empires, which obscures or is a barrier to the Platonic teachings on divinity.


The West is hugely informed by Aristotle and this Persian influence.

[Gwin Ru]

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... Military Situation In Ukraine On May 22, 2022 (Map Update)

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• Russia attacked military assets of the AFU near Lyman with high-precision missiles;
• Russia attacked military assets of the AFU near Soledar with high-precision missiles;
• Russia attacked military assets of the AFU near Nyrkovo with high-precision missiles;
• On May 21, 210 AFU members were killed and 38 armored vehicles were destroyed by the Russian Armed Forces, according to the Russian MOD;
• Russian air defense systems shot down 11 Ukrainian drones near Kurakhovo, Guselskoe of Donetsk region, Popasnaya in Lugansk region, Chernobaevka in Kherson region, Russkaya Lozovaya, Kozachya Lopan, Nizshee, Malaya Kamyshevaha and Petrovskoe in Kharkiv region.

Military Situation In Eastern Ukraine On May 22, 2022 (Map Update)

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• Russian forces claimed control over the Oskil pocket in the Izyum front;
• Russian forces claimed control over Novoselivka village near Gorlivka;
• Clashes between the AFU and Russian forces continue on the outskirts of Severodonetsk;
• Clashes between the AFU and Russian forces continue in north of Lyman;
• Clashes between the AFU and Russian forces continue near Avdiivka;
• Clashes between the AFU and Russian forces continue near Mariinka.

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[Michel Leclerc]

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Not criticising you Ravenlocke (on the contrary, I am grateful for your work) but why oh why why why need such visual snippets be accompanied by dreadful "music", I think from “War of the Worlds” – and even if it were not dreadful music (as Wagner’s Walkürenritt during Coppola’s helicopter attacks in Apocalypse Now)... what is this? vicarious vengefulness? — or do those videomakers want to deafen their conscience telling them not to get too blood-thirsty after all? or is it typical Imperial aesthetics as in Riefenstahl’s three Nürnberg rally films?

would real sound, or even soundless images, or even black-and-white photographs not be more telling? and more respectful vis-a-vis of the all the killed and maimed?

I am interested by facts, not by movie trailer fragments..

[Ravenlocke]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1528503044001890306

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1528430678240526336

https://twitter.com/coope125/status/1528358203662147585

Not criticising you Ravenlocke (on the contrary, I am grateful for your work) but why oh why why why need such visual snippets be accompanied by dreadful "music", I think from “War of the Worlds” – and even if it were not dreadful music (as Wagner’s Walkürenritt during Coppola’s helicopter attacks in Apocalypse Now)... what is this? vicarious vengefulness? — or do those videomakers want to deafen their conscience telling them not to get too blood-thirsty after all? or is it typical Imperial aesthetics as in Riefenstahl’s three Nürnberg rally films?

would real sound, or even soundless images, or even black-and-white photographs not be more telling? and more respectful vis-a-vis of the all the killed and maimed?

I am interested by facts, not by movie trailer fragments..

Hi Michel Leclerc
I also have to thank you for the interesting discussion that you and Shaberon have going here in this thread. I appreciate and learn from it as well.
As to the video clip the second one in the above post, apparently the music is to emphasize the evilness of the deed of the Ukraine army using civilian property to hide from their enemy and their disregard for harming civilians.
I didn’t notice the music because I watch without sound when there aren’t speakers in the video. Other than that I don’t know why the sound has to be so ominous other than to emphasize that the evil deed doesn’t go unnoticed and unpunished?

Also I thought it relevant to what is happening, here’s Az Ozint’s comment regarding the footage
https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...04573903372288