WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[shaberon]

That is interesting to hear that even a retreat was overwhelmed and prisoners taken.



Today I made a mistake in American art history which may help de-construct what "side" it happens to be currently.


I was under the impression that St. Gaudens designed this coin:






And I thought it was an honest meaning and that he had made this as some sort of dire warning:







The first is an error because according to the Gold Bureau:


The reverse of the coin features Tucker-Frost's (nee Busiek) design which is the image of an eagle holding an olive branch returning to his nest.

Not only did he fail to do what I thought was the masterpiece of all coin designs, The Puritan is actually a national icon.


It is a tribute:


In 1881, Chester W. Chapin, a railroad tycoon and congressman from Springfield, Massachusetts, commissioned the renowned sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens to create a bronze likeness of his ancestor, Deacon Samuel Chapin (1595–1675), one of the early settlers of the City of Springfield.


By the time of the statue's design, no authentic portraits of Deacon Samuel Chapin were known to exist...

In 2014, Chicopee city historian Stephen Jendrysik submitted the theory that the figure's face was not a copy of the facial features of Chester Chapin, but rather a subtle tribute to abolitionist John Brown, a devout Calvinist and also a direct descendant of Deacon Chapin. Indeed Chester Chapin was a War Democrat himself, paying for the uniforms of 10th Regiment at the start of the Civil War. The immediate Chapin family also played a pivotal role in Springfield's Underground Railroad movement, including abolitionist Ethan S. Chapin, a business associate of Chester Chapin's, and proprietor of the Massasoit Hotel, a safe house believed to have housed escaped slaves beneath its staircase, which hosted Brown prior to his move to the city in the 1840s. A controversial figure whose actions escalated tensions between North and South before the start of the American Civil War...

In the 19th and early 20th centuries he remained an exceedingly infamous figure, regarded by the public both as martyr and terrorist for his raid on Harpers Ferry in an attempt to start a slave revolt. Brown was also an historic figure in Springfield as it was there that he first organized the militant underground railroad movement, the Subterranean Pass Way, and met with Douglass and Harriet Tubman among other influential abolitionist figures.


Indeed in his 2005 work, John Brown, Abolitionist, historian David S. Reynolds repeatedly describes Brown as "The Puritan," as in his own writing Brown repeatedly cited figures such as Jonathan Edwards and Oliver Cromwell as inspiration for his own actions. During the Civil War, Puritan beliefs were held as an influence of the abolitionist movement, met with admiration by Northerners, and resentment by defenders of the South for their adherence to antinomianism, regarded as a philosophy of militant individualism to carry out warfare against institutions. Congressman Samuel S. Cox, who opposed the war, went on to say that "[a]bolition is the offspring of Puritanism. Until Abolition arose, the Union was never seriously menaced; the Constitution was never endangered. Puritanism introduced the moral elements involved in slavery into politics."

Saint-Gaudens, a known admirer of Brown, remains best known for his Civil War memorial works...


In the view of the Congressman:


Initially, Cox resolved to sustain the Lincoln administration "in every constitutional endeavor to put down the rebellion." However, he opposed "that abolition policy which sought to convert this holy war for the defence of the government and the union into a mere anti-slavery party war."



Allright. So that figurine is the copy of a statue of a guy that nobody knows what he looked like. But it most likely has been given a stamp of character. Here is some of the clan of the patriarch:


Samuel Chapin had many famous direct descendants, including United States Presidents Grover Cleveland and William Howard Taft, Canadian Prime Minister Richard Bedford Bennett, abolitionist and author Harriet Beecher Stowe, abolitionists Henry Ward Beecher and John Brown, financier J.P. Morgan, poet and playwright T.S. Eliot...

He served the town as selectman, magistrate and deacon (in the Massachusetts Bay Colony there was little separation between the church and government).


John Brown was inspired by Oliver Cromwell, whom, as we have seen, is one of the most convincing personages that there is such a thing as a "deal with the devil".

Who in hell's holy house is Johnathan Edwards?


Edwards owned as slaves several black children and adults during his lifetime, including a young teenager named Venus who was kidnapped in Africa and whom he purchased in 1731, a boy named Titus, and a woman named Leah. In a 1741 pamphlet, Edwards defended enslaving people who were debtors, war captives, or were born enslaved in North America, but rejected the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

However he believed in something called New Light Calvinism.



Generally, Puritans:


...believed that all of their beliefs should be based on the Bible, which they considered to be divinely inspired.

The concept of covenant was extremely important to Puritans, and covenant theology was central to their beliefs. With roots in the writings of Reformed theologians John Calvin and Heinrich Bullinger...


In the 16th and 17th centuries, thousands of people throughout Europe were accused of being witches and executed. In England and Colonial America, Puritans engaged in witch hunts as well.

Puritans believed it was the government's responsibility to enforce moral standards and ensure true religious worship was established and maintained.

In 1647, Massachusetts passed a law prohibiting any Jesuit Roman Catholic priests from entering territory under Puritan jurisdiction.

Puritanism has also been credited with the creation of modernity itself, from England's Scientific Revolution to the rise of democracy. In the early 20th century, Max Weber argued in The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism that Calvinist self-denial resulted in a Protestant work ethic that led to the development of capitalism.


Oh, there we go. Western capitalism. Then you have the Pilgrims' Society. No wonder.

That was my mistake. I thought he made "The Puritan" as a way to discard repression but it seems I have it backwards. He cherishes the stuff.

Outside of itself, Abolition can be seen as a type of militancy, which may have done more harm than good.

When I viewed that Puritan figurine in person, I had probably the strongest negative reaction than to almost any other single item, ever. I took it as a warning. Apparently that was not the artists' intent, however, it may be the actual facts behind the thing.

I have no idea how influential this "pilgrims" ethos might be, since I certainly have nothing to do with it. In the current conflict, it sounds like the side I am "in" but not really "on".

[shaberon]

Also on the "current side", is the Americanized version of a formerly fiercely independent culture, evidently replaying its 1940s complicity:


BERLIN, August 2. /TASS/. Germany keeps supplying Ukraine with most advanced weapons, including some that have not yet entered service with the German armed forces, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in an interview to Globe and Mail.

"We delivered whatever we had: anti-tank and anti-aircraft systems, mines, guns, tons of ammunition and non-lethal aid. Since then we have moved to more complex and high-value systems. Self-propelled howitzers, Multiple Launch Rocket Systems, anti-aircraft systems, counter battery radar. Some of these systems are so new that only very few have been produced and some of them have not even been introduced in the Bundeswehr," the German chancellor said.

"All of those need training for the Ukrainian crews and we are providing that as well. As we speak, Ukrainians are being trained on new and more sophisticated equipment in several locations in Germany," he added.

On June 21, Ukrainian Defense Minister Alexey Reznikov announced that his country had received Germany’s Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers with trained Ukrainian crews. On the same day, the German government published for the first time the list of weapons transferred to Ukraine and the plan for further deliveries, which includes 30 Gepard air defense guns, IRIS-T, three Mars systems, 22 trucks and 80 pickup trucks. There are 38 items on the list of weapons and materiel already delivered, with 25 more on the list of the planned ones.

On July 27, it was announced that Germany approved deliveries of additional 100 howitzers to Ukraine.



This time, however, instead of building up the actual German gas and vehicles, it is transferred to "someone else's problem". That is called Economics. I have seen a document that enslaves all those people to it called the Constitution. Did it take a crystal ball in 1949 to see this coming? Of course not, this has all been progress as intended. And, the more "the west" depletes itself in this trial by fire, the more of a joke it is that they could project power elsewhere. Tin can full of holes.

Unfortunately, some of those jelly beans really are more dangerous than what Ukraine originally had, which is a virtual gurantee for shelling civilians, and a moderately increased risk to advancing Russian forces. Mostly it is a magnet for Ukrainian casualties.


In its daily briefing on August 1, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the destruction of two more HIMARS MRLS and a Harpoon launcher in Ukraine.

The HIMARS supplied from the United States were destroyed as a result of the strike on the Ukrainian Energy Machines plant in Kharkiv. 53 Ukrainian servicemen and foreign mercenaries were also killed.

A Harpoon launcher was destroyed as a result of a missile strike near the town of Velyky Dalnik in the Odessa region.

The Russian Aerospace Forces also struck the temporary deployment point of the 92nd Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Kharkiv outskirts. Up to 200 Ukrainian fighters were destroyed.

Thus, the number of destroyed US-HIMARS in Ukraine reached 6 systems.


6/16 there. That was in the north, roughly towards the Russian border.

And for those other beans such as the Harpoon, here we can see that Russia is mainly in the Kherson area and will have to defeat Mykolaiv to reach Odessa:



On July 31, Russian artillery struck Mykolaiv city. Oleksiy Vadatursky, a famous Ukrainian grain businessman was killed in the attack;

Russia struck military assets of the AFU in Odessa airport;

[Bill Ryan]

Two short new videos from Eva Bartlett, the first about the 'petal mines' — targeted at civilians and probably children in particular — and the second about Louise Mensch's demand that Eva should be on a Ukrainian kill list.

Ukraine turns Donetsk into a minefield using banned ‘butterfly’ mines

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B6wJbPJv0kk

George Eliason: "LOUISE MENSCH directs a UA military hit against Journo Eva Bartlett"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PNDsRQgX48Q

[9ideon]

Russia should not put Zelenskyy to sleep, instead what they should do is make use of the man's psyche in order to expose all which has happened in Ukraine and beyond. Put him on tv a couple of times in where he gives detailed accounts of the perverse way the "system" works.

After all, he seems to like all the attention, he most likely would not like to die and surely we do not need a false martyr either, let him be seen to the World for the hypocrite he really is, then afterwards sent him to the Gulag.

[Tintin]

Letter from Scott Ritter dated July 27th, 2022 addressed to Congress representatives and published in Consortium News, here

US Should Not Fund Ukrainian ‘Blacklist’

------------------------

Senator Charles Schumer

Leo W. O’Brien Federal Office Building

11A Clinton Avenue, Room 827

Albany, NY 12207


Senator Christine Gillibrand

Leo W. O’Brien Federal Office Building

11A Clinton Avenue, Room 821

Albany, NY 12207


Representative Paul Tonko

19 Dove Street, Unit 302

Albany, NY 12210

July 27, 2022

Dear Senators Schumer and Gillibrand, and Congressman Tonko,

My name is Scott Ritter. I am a New York State resident, currently residing in the Town of Bethlehem, in Albany County. My family and I have lived at our current address since July 2000.

I am writing to you in your collective role as my elected representatives in the United States Congress, specifically regarding H.R. 7691, the Additional Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2022, which became Public Law 117-128 on May 21, 2022, which each of you voted in favor of.

I draw your attention to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, specifically the following language: “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.”

By enacting Public Law 117-128, you appear to have abrogated your Constitutional responsibilities in so far as you may have, in fact, made a law which both abridges the freedom of speech and a free press by enabling the Government of Ukraine, through the use of US taxpayer dollars appropriated under Public Law 117-128, to publish a “blacklist” singling out US citizens as “Russian propagandists” for exercising their Constitutional rights pertaining to free speech and a free press.

The “blacklist” in question was published on July 14, 2022, by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, and consists of a list of politicians, academics, and activists who the Center claims promote “Russian propaganda.” Many on this list are citizens of the United States, some of whom, like me, have taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

While the specific criterion used by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation for selecting persons for inclusion on this “blacklist” is not known, in my case the Ukrainian government appears to have taken umbrage against my articulation of Ukraine as a NATO base of operations, my analysis of the Bucha Massacre in early March which assigns responsibility to Ukrainian security services, and my description of the current Ukraine-Russian conflict as a “proxy conflict” being waged on behalf of the United States.

Whether one agrees with my positions on these and other matters pertaining to Ukraine is not the point; by articulating my views, I am exercising my rights under the Constitution of the United States. While the Government of Ukraine is free to express its opinions regarding my viewpoints as it sees fit, the Government of the United States, by using funds appropriated by the United States Congress, should not facilitate the actions of the Government of Ukraine in this regard.

I draw your attention to Section 507(a) of Public Law 117-128, which directs that “[f]unds made available by this title under the heading Economic Support Fund may be made available for direct financial support for the Government of Ukraine.”

Public Law 117-128 makes available $8,766,000,000 for assistance for Ukraine under the heading “Economic Support Fund.”

On July 12, 2022, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) issued a press release in which it announced that $1.7 billion in direct budgetary aid was provided to Ukraine under Public Law 117-128, which allowed the Government of Ukraine, among other things, to pay the salaries of Ukrainian civil servants. This would logically include the salaries of the employees of the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation.

As a constituent whose name has appeared on a so-called “blacklist” published by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, my personal and professional life has been, and continues to be, detrimentally impacted by the chilling effect of being labeled a “Russian propagandist” for simply exercising the right to free speech guaranteed by the United States Constitution. Moreover, Ukraine has a history of converting “blacklists” of this nature into “kill lists”, where those who speak out against the policies of the Ukrainian government are being murdered or threatened with violence. I am certain you agree with me that Congress cannot be in a position where, through its actions, foreign governments are provided the means to intimidate citizens of the United States from exercising their Constitutionally protected rights regarding free speech.

As such, I respectfully request that each of you investigate what role, if any, funds authorized by you under Public Law 117-128, have been used to underwrite the actions of the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, and more specifically, if any funds appropriated under Public Law 117-128 have been used to pay the salaries of Ukrainian civil servants employed by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation involved in the preparation and dissemination of this so-called “blacklist”.

Under Section 507(d) of Public Law 117-128, Congress directs that “[t]he Secretary of State or the Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development, as appropriate, shall report to the appropriate congressional committees on the uses of any funds provided for direct financial support to the Government of Ukraine pursuant to subsection (a) and the results achieved, not later than 90 days after the date of enactment of this Act and every 90 days thereafter until September 30, 2025,” and that such a report “shall also include the metrics established to measure such results.”

I request that each of you become personally involved in preparing the appropriate questions to be asked of either the Secretary of State or the Administrator of USAID when they next appear before Congress to carry out their mandated reports regarding the use of funds provided for the direct financial support of the Government of Ukraine. The specific metric of interest here is whether any of these funds were used to pay the salaries of civil servants employed by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation involved in the preparation and dissemination of the aforementioned “blacklist”.

If funds were, in fact, used in this manner, I would respectfully request that you, in your status as my elected representatives to the United States Congress, take the appropriate action necessary to ensure that funds appropriated by the United States Congress are not used to suppress the free speech rights afforded to citizens of the United States, including myself, by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Moreover, I would insist that you take the appropriate action to guarantee that the Government of Ukraine immediately cease and desist in all activity designed to threaten and intimidate citizens of the United States. You are duty bound to protect the interests of the United States and its citizens rather than facilitate the actions of a foreign power that are, by design, intended to accomplish just the opposite.

Congress cannot be allowed to bypass Constitutionally imposed constraints on its actions by allowing a foreign government to do that which would not be permitted here in the United States. By paying the salaries of the civil servants employed by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, who have prepared and disseminated the so-called “blacklist”, you and your fellow Senators and Representatives appear to be doing just that—allowing the Government of Ukraine to suppress the right of free speech guaranteed to United States citizens under the Constitution.

I look forward to hearing back from each of you as to how you propose to proceed in this matter.

Sincerely,



Scott Ritter

[Tintin]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

George Eliason: "LOUISE MENSCH directs a UA military hit against Journo Eva Bartlett"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PNDsRQgX48Q

That's a really helpful video outlining the Tallinn Manual there - many thanks

It effectively draws a direct parallel between online terrorism and offline terrorism within the manual's guidelines.

More about that here: https://ccdcoe.org/research/tallinn-manual/

The manual is also available via Academia.edu

Link: https://www.academia.edu/74844551/Ta...ber_Operations

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/MoonofA/status/1...O9a9nah5_si_nQ

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/0...-zelenski.html

Ukraine - Mines, Missiles, Warcrimes And A Warning To Zelenski


August 02, 2022

Russia continues its special military operation in Ukraine in a relatively slow manner.

Its military is tasked with the 'demilitarization' and 'denazification' of Ukraine. This task does not require large movements of the front line as the Ukrainian government continues to send fresh troops and nazis units towards the front line with the Russians. There the Russians reliably maul them without taking significant casualties on their own side.

---
The Ukrainian government and its military continue to commit war crimes.

Since a few days the Ukraine is firing missiles with thousands of anti-personal mines into Donetsk city and other population centers in the east. These are not powerful enough to kill but are designed to maim anyone who steps on them or tries to pick them up.

bigger
Their color is green and brown so one will hardly see them when they are laying in grass or on rough ground. The Russian's once had similar mines but those deactivated themselves after 24 hours. The Ukrainian ones do not do that. They will still be dangerous months from now. Russia has send hundreds of troops to help with the demining.
---
On July 29 two HIMARS missiles were fired onto a prison camp in Olenivka (also written Elenovka), some 30 kilometers south of Donetsk city. They hit the barracks that housed Azov nazi fighters who had been caught in Mariupol. Fifty of those died and some 70 were wounded in the missile attack. Ukraine denied that it had launched the missiles and accused the Russians of willfully killing the prisoners.

However Russia does not need to fire missiles or bomb barracks to kill prisoners it already holds. It can simply take them out of of their barracks and hang or shoot them. It also would not wound 70 people it now must additionally care for.

Via Politico U.S. officials are covering for the Ukraine:

American-made rocket launchers not used in Ukraine prison strike, U.S. assesses

The U.S. has assessed that Ukraine did not attack a prison in a Russian-occupied eastern region of Donetsk with American-made rocket launchers last week, directly contradicting Russian claims, according to two U.S. officials.
...
However, no traces of the U.S.-provided weapons were found at the site, according to two U.S. officials with knowledge of the assessment, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic.
“We know Ukraine didn’t attack the site with HIMARS because the site doesn’t have the indications it would have if it was hit with HIMARS,” one of the officials said.

While one of the officials stopped short of saying Ukraine was not responsible for the strike, the other official said the evidence showed the attack was not conducted by Kyiv. Satellite photos of the site released by Maxar Technologies on July 30 appear to show damage only to the section of the detention center housing Ukrainian prisoners, with no collateral damage to surrounding buildings.

The warheads of the shorter range HIMARS missiles have 91 kilogram (200 pound) warheads. That is a relative little amount of explosives. HIMARS hits are precise and do not create wide ranging collateral damage. That is there whole point.

The claim that 'no traces of the U.S.-provided weapons were found at the site' is also definitely false. Several TV teams have visited the side and filmed the collected debris on the same day the incident had happened during the early morning hours. The diameter of these rocket motor parts fits to HIMARS missiles. Other filmed debris showed typical fragments of the HIMARS missile war head.


It was the Ukraine, and especially its dubious leaders, who had an interest in killing the Azov prisoners. These had started to talk with Russian interviewers and were revealing war crimes for which the leadership in Ukraine is directly responsible.

On July 28 the Russians published a video of an interview with Azov nazi soldier Dmytro Kozatsky, call sign Orest, who directly accused Zelenski advisor Arestovich of ordering the killing of Russian soldiers who had been taken prisoners.

Kozatsky was running the public relation side for his Azov unit. Even before the war started, Kozatsky says, Arestovich was preparing an information campaign with shock videos that were supposed to show the torture and killing of Russian soldiers taken prisoners. Kozatsky received such an order and passed it on. He later noted that such shock videos were indeed made and published on social media sides.


That witness statement is enough to put Arestovich into jail for a very long time. He responded by sending HIMARS missiles to kill the prisoners which were taking to the Russians and accusing him.

Publishing videos of the torturing and killing of Russian prisoners was supposed to deter Russian soldiers from further fighting in the war. This tactic was also used in the 1940s by the Ukrainian nazi collaborators of the OUN. It had the opposite effect of what it was supposed to do. The Russian were enraged about those films and photographs and fought even harder.

Today the Russian defense ministry accused Washington of being behind the missile attacks:

Russian Defence Ministry has recorded and is taking into account for the future an official admission by General Skibitsky, deputy head of the Chief Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine, that Washington directly coordinates each target for Kiev before strikes from US-made HIMARS MLRS.
Speaking to The Telegraph's British journalists, Skibitsky admitted that "before rocket launches, there are consultations between intelligence officials from both countries, which allow Washington to stop any potential attacks if they were unhappy with the intended target".

All this undeniably proves that Washington, contrary to White House and Pentagon claims, is directly involved in the conflict in Ukraine.

It is Biden administration that is directly responsible for all Kiev-approved rocket attacks on residential areas and civilian infrastructure in populated areas of Donbas and other regions, which have resulted in mass deaths of civilians.

No one else in Ukraine or in the world should have any doubts that the strikes by HIMARS rockets on Novaya Kakhovka on July 12, on Stakhanov on July 17, on Krasniy Luch on July 24, dozens of strikes on Donetsk and, of course, the July 29 strike on the detention facility in Elenovka, which killed 50 and injured 73 Ukrainian POWs, were planned by Zelensky regime and approved by Washington.

Political, criminal and moral responsibility for the Elenovka massacre and other war crimes in Ukraine, along with Zelensky, lies directly with Biden administration.

The relevant Telegraph piece was published yesterday:

Britain helps Ukraine hunt for Russian spies eyeing Western military aid

Asked how the US-provided Himars multiple-launch rocket systems have so precisely targeted Russian fuel and ammunition depots, as well as battlefield headquarters in eastern Ukraine, Gen Skibitsky said “in this case in particular, we use real-time information”.
US officials are not providing direct targeting information, which would potentially undermine their case for not being direct participants in the war, Gen Skibitsky said.

However, he suggested there was a level of consultation between intelligence officials of both countries prior to launching missiles that would allow Washington to stop any potential attacks if they were unhappy with the intended target.

---
Someone in the Biden administration told New York Time columnist Thomas Friedman to fire a warning shot against the Ukrainian president Zelenski.

He does so today in a column that warns about Pelosi's trip to Taiwan.

Why Pelosi’s Visit to Taiwan Is Utterly Reckless

Dear reader: The Ukraine war is not over. And privately, U.S. officials are a lot more concerned about Ukraine’s leadership than they are letting on. There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky — considerably more than has been reported.
And there is funny business going on in Kyiv. On July 17, Zelensky fired his country’s prosecutor general and the leader of its domestic intelligence agency — the most significant shake-up in his government since the Russian invasion in February. It would be the equivalent of Biden firing Merrick Garland and Bill Burns on the same day. But I have still not seen any reporting that convincingly explains what that was all about. It is as if we don’t want to look too closely under the hood in Kyiv for fear of what corruption or antics we might see, when we have invested so much there. (More on the dangers of that another day.)
...
In short, this Ukraine war is SO not over, SO not stable, SO not without dangerous surprises that can pop out on any given day. Yet in the middle of all of this we are going to risk a conflict with China over Taiwan, provoked by an arbitrary and frivolous visit by the speaker of the House?

It is Geopolitics 101 that you don’t court a two-front war with the other two superpowers at the same time.

As long as the U.S. keeps financing Zelenski he will continue to rule as he sees fit while also growing his already considerable nest egg.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/statu...66460042514438

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/stat...64508319617025

https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/stat...68393197207552

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Patrick Lancaster also receiving threats, this one via Facebook


https://twitter.com/SweeneySteve/sta...39616668786690

https://twitter.com/PLnewstoday/stat...22730426138627

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten/s...92251345690625

https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten/s...92257033187328

https://twitter.com/DeuNachrichten/s...92262833917952

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...68962183909377

¤=[Post Update]=¤

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...83849253588992

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...52923941326848

¤=[Post Update]=¤

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...77413005987841

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...06136879075330

[Ravenlocke]

Reported July 27

https://twitter.com/ChannelOne_eng/s...71702838706176

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/...30324267679744

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z5P85gjCRTc

~~~

Helpful note from Bill:
This is a very wide ranging and globally focused conversation, but for those readers specifically interested in Ukraine, that section begins at 54:20.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...68061855977472

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...69491505455105

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/...36162352119808

https://twitter.com/MayadeenEnglish/...63906902888450

Kiev forcefully evacuating civilians from areas it controls: DPR

Leader of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), Denis Pushilin, said on Monday that Ukraine is applying a forceful evacuation of the population from the territories in the DPR was underway.

In an interview with the Rossiya-24 TV channel, Pushilin said that the evacuation is intended to “delegitimize” the referendum that the separatist authorities plan to hold after supposedly liberating the entirety of the territory.

"What does [Ukrainian President Vladimir] Zelensky want? After these settlements are liberated, he will say: ‘There were no people there, what kind of referendum you are speaking about?’ It is a kind of preparatory work," he said to Rossiya-24.

Read more: Zelensky orders mandatory evacuation of Donetsk

Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk said on Tuesday via Telegram, "The mandatory evacuation from the Donetsk region has started. The first train arrived in Kropyvnytskyi on Tuesday morning carrying women, children, elderly and disabled people. We received and accommodated all of them."

According to the Ukrainian authorities, the Ukrainian government plans to evacuate about 220,000 people before the start of winter. An evacuation task force has been set up to manage departures.

“Those who have decided to evacuate should call the administration (…), people will come to pick them up and transport them to the place of evacuation,” Vereshchuk said.

Responding to people who did not wish to leave their homes, Vereshchuk said “that (the decision) is their personal responsibility, but I repeat, there will be no gas, heating, and electricity."

[ExomatrixTV]

• Zelensky 'Not All He's Portrayed As' By Western Media: Bernardi

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KEPWgMXut_8

[Goba]

Russia is losing. I mean in a greater sense it has already lost but in a military sense - it will also loose. No amount of morally corrupt support for the aggressor will change that. It so funny to see how people who are posed against american wars of aggression then think if someone else starts to kill and maim its for the good.

Why will Ukraine win (in all likelihood - nobody can be sure right now) you can read here:

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-st...usso-ukrainian

[XelNaga]

Posted by Goba (here)
Russia is losing. I mean in a greater sense it has already lost but in a military sense - it will also loose. No amount of morally corrupt support for the aggressor will change that. It so funny to see how people who are posed against american wars of aggression then think if someone else starts to kill and maim its for the good.

Why will Ukraine win (in all likelihood - nobody can be sure right now) you can read here:

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-st...usso-ukrainian

Dear Goba,

I see that western propaganda brainwashing got you really good. So sad.

[pounamuknight]

Cheers for the Professor Timothy Snyder article, Goba. It was entertaining

Snyder is one of those mainstream pundits that calls Russia a dictatorship. He has about as much insight as a CNN tweet, on which he's a frequent mouthpiece about all things imperial

Oh yeah, the guy's also a sitting member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

CIA stamp of approval