WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Bill Ryan]

This may be valuable for Justplain to see.

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/28418

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/stat...50643283615746

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/jaccocharite/sta...70594677297152

https://twitter.com/hanse_mina/statu...84308524650497

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577660908637151233

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577662967751090176

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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577644781265510400

[Ravenlocke]

https://tass.com/politics/1518241


Putin signs decree to give mobilization deferments to some groups of people

It is noted that a deferment also is granted to students of educational and research organizations on post-graduate programs for scientific and scientific-pedagogical professionals
MOSCOW, October 5. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday said he had signed a decree to grant deferments from the partial military mobilization for some additional groups of people, including students that study on campus or have a mixed on-campus and off-campus schedule.

"Educational and research institutions that have government accreditation, programs of high and higher education, including internship programs and probation assistantship programs. When I say ‘have government accreditation’ that includes private educational institutions," the president said as he met with the finalists of the nationwide Teacher of the Year contest via video link.

A deferment also is granted to students of "educational and research organizations on post-graduate programs for scientific and scientific-pedagogical professionals, organizations engaged in educational activities under educational programs of secondary vocational and higher education, including post-graduate programs for scientific and scientific-pedagogical professionals, internship programs and probation assistantship programs located in the territories of innovative scientific and technological centers and institutions of spiritual education," Putin said.


https://tass.com/politics/1518239

Kadyrov announces promotion to Colonel General


Vladimir Putin also relayed congratulations with the Day of the city of Grozny, Teacher’s Day and the Day of the Chechen Youth
GROZNY, October 5. /TASS/. Head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov announced that Russian President Vladimir Putin has promoted him to the rank of Colonel General.

"I would like to share one more pleasant piece of news with you. The President of Russia awarded me with the rank of Colonel General. The decree number is 709. Vladimir Vladimirovich informed me and congratulated me personally," Kadyrov said on his Telegram channel Wednesday.

Putin also relayed congratulations with the Day of the city of Grozny, Teacher’s Day and the Day of the Chechen Youth.

"The head of state called me and asked to wish all the people of Chechnya welfare, luck and success in his name! Despite his workload, the commander-in-chief never forgets about important dates in our region," Kadyrov said.

The head of Chechnya noted that there will be no entertainment events due to the special military operation. Artists and art collectives will perform spiritual and patriotic songs, will praise heroes and will tell about feats of the defenders of the Homeland.

In late March of this year, Kadyrov was awarded with the rank of Lieutenant General. On April 7, Commander of the Russian National Guard North Caucasus District Sergey Zakharov presented Kadyrov with the presidential decree and his shoulder straps.

[Ravenlocke]

https://tass.com/politics/1518247

Russia retaliates by expelling Lithuanian Charge d'Affaires — Foreign Ministry

It was stressed that, depending on other unfriendly steps taken by Vilnius, Moscow reserves the right to take "additional measures of influence"
MOSCOW, October 5. /TASS/. Russia is expelling Lithuanian Charge d'Affaires Virginia Umbrasene in retailation, the diplomat has been ordered to leave the Russian territory within five days, according to the Russian Foreign Ministry’s statement issued on Wednesday.

"On October 5, a representative of the Lithuanian Embassy was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry. She was handed a note informing that in response to the unjustified explulsion of the Russian charge d'affaires in the Lithuanian Republic [Sergey Ryabokon], the Lithuanian charge d'affaires in Russia, Virginia Umbrasene, is declared persona non grata. She is ordered to leave the territory of our country within five days," the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

In addition, Russia, given the hostile policy of Lithuania aimed at the collapse of humanitarian relations, freezes the activities of the cultural center of the Lithuanian diplomatic mission in Moscow: the House of Baltrusaitis.

The Russian Foreign Ministry stressed that, depending on other unfriendly steps taken by Vilnius, Moscow reserves the right to take "additional measures of influence."

On Monday, the Lithuanian Foreign Ministry reported that Sergey Ryabokon, Russian Charge d'Affaires in Lithuania, was declared persona non grata. As the Foreign Ministry noted, this decision was taken in the light of the information received by the authorities, who concluded that the recent activities and statements of the Charge d'Affaires allegedly "are incompatible with his diplomatic status and are treated as interference in the affairs of the receiving party," that is, Lithuania. The diplomat was ordered to leave the country within five days.

[Ravenlocke]

No further info available yet.

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577665987079507969

[norman]

Noises off, or does this fit into the picture too ?

This event, it is stated by Armenian expert Alex Thomson, took place INSIDE Armenia.

Armenian Defense Ministry Press Secretary Aram Torosyan says Video circulating social media, alleging to show Azerbaijani soldiers committing war crimes by EXECUTING Armenian POWs is AUTHENTIC, but it is still impossible to establish the incident's time and place.

UPDATE: Armenia will use all international means to seek investigation into video showing execution of Armenian POWs - Armenian PM Pashinyan

https://www.brighteon.com/29869365-2...7-da566373e61a

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/...39999931129859

https://twitter.com/ItalianAirForce/...66677352927235

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577670592265916423

[Chester]

One caution for discerning members -

Some members who post may be either

a.) so fearful that they do not allow their conscious mind to ever consider any viewpoint (or stance) outside of the one they have to believe in (which is associated with the governance of the land they feel safe in living),

b.) they are significantly ideologically driven that if "the sociopolitical side" they believe emulates their core ideology tells them "who is the good guys and who is the bad guys," they will throw out their own capacity to think for themselves, abandon their own internal ethics (if they had any of significance), open to the cognitive dissonance and then root for who they are told are "the good guys" no matter how atrocious this "good guy" side's actions achieve.

c.) they are so void of any connectivity to their own conscience that they have crossed the line long ago in relation to their own corruption and thus would be completely willing and able to consciously act for "their side" in some form or another where they are also paid and/or receive some other perceived benefits for their actions - a paid disinfo agent is an example of this.

I would add d.) as a representation of a combination of two or even all three of the above.

I highly recommend discerning folks consider the ignore list when some of this ilk posts in this thread (and any other threads of this level of relevance). To respond in any way to someone as lost as the types I described above is to "feed the monster" and waste your time.

All the above is just my opinion and the advice I am taking (and offer to others).

[Kryztian]

Posted by Chester (here)
One caution for discerning members -
Some members who post may be either

a.) so fearful that they do not allow their conscious mind to ever consider any viewpoint (or stance) outside of the one they have to believe in (which is associated with the governance of the land they feel safe in living),

I don't this we can know for sure what is the psychological drive behind other people's posts that are contrarian to our own beliefs. We do have a war going on, and yes, fear can be a motivator, no matter which side of the fence you are on.

This is certainly one of the busiest threads on Avalon right now if not the busiest. One complaint about it is that it is just a list of video links, tweets and articles from new outlets, all media from outside of Avalon. What are the original thoughts of the members here and how do they justify them?. I think there is plenty of space for both links to outside information and also for thoughtful the opinions of our own members, and the latter is driven by contrasting views.

Contrarian opinions offer us: (1) the possibility to teach us something we were wrong about, or, (2) a challenge that will force us to think about what we know is right and find a way to express that truth with more clarity in a way that is more comprehensible to people with whom we disagree.

And a word of the advice to the contrarians here too: you might need to delve a little deeper into the minds of the people you disagree with here. Ask yourself: why do the people you disagree with see the world the way they do? There is a lot of information here - you might need to read it a little more closely and focus on that in your rebuttals instead of just characterizing the people you disagree with.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/imetatronink/sta...82970650910721

[Ravenlocke]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
No further info available yet.

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577665987079507969

https://www.rt.com/business/564126-t...-donbass-coal/

Türkiye is importing Donbass coal – DPR premier

Coal mined in the mineral-rich Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) is being exported to Türkiye, from where it goes to countries in the Middle East and Africa, DPR’s Prime Minister Vitaly Khotsenko told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

In an interview he explained that the coal is being exported to traditional markets where coal is in demand. According to Khotsenko, the coal extracted in the region is of high quality and, accordingly, is in demand in many countries.

The mineral-rich DPR has the fourth-largest coal field in Europe, with its extractable reserves estimated at over ten billion tons. As of February, 115 coal mines were operating in Donbass, producing around 70 million tons of raw material per year.

READ MORE: Ports, mines, agriculture: What can new regions give Russia’s economy?
On Wednesday morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed into law four unification treaties with the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, as well as with Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, which overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in referendums in September.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1577716308623384576

https://www.rt.com/russia/564127-rus...inistry-truth/

Top Russian MP blasts Defense Ministry over Ukraine

Russians should receive more information about what is actually happening at the frontlines of Moscow’s military operation in Ukraine, insists Andrey Kartapolov, Chairman of the State Duma (lower house of parliament) Defense Committee.

Speaking on Soloviev Live on Wednesday, the Colonel General said the Russian Ministry of Defense should stop hiding information from citizens and be more truthful in its reports.

“No more lies. We’ve talked about this before. [RT Editor-in-Chief] Margarita Simonyan has spoken about this in length but, apparently, this has not reached the ears of some individual leaders,” Kartapolov said, noting how reports from the Soviet Information Bureau during the early months of the Nazi invasion of the USSR in 1941 provided more information than what is being said in Russia’s Ministry of Defense reports today.

“In every report they said that somewhere we are retreating, somewhere we are stubbornly repelling the attacks of a superior enemy, somewhere we have left settlements,” the politician said, stressing that when people read the Soviet reports, they gained an understanding that the situation was difficult and that the country was in danger.

Russian forces withdraw from key Donbass town READ MORE: Russian forces withdraw from key Donbass town
Kartapolov said that Russia is also in danger today and that the enemy is already on Russian land, referring to Belgorod Region, where, he claims, nearly all villages bordering Ukraine have been destroyed, while the city of Valuiki is under constant fire from Kiev’s forces.

The chairman lamented the fact that none of this information is being reported by official sources and people learn about these things from governors, telegram channels and military correspondents.

“The reports from the Ministry of Defense practically do not change their content,” Kartapolov noted, warning that Russians “are not stupid” and can see that they are not being allowed to learn even a portion of the actual truth.

“This can lead to a loss of credibility,” the deputy warned.

While the Russian Defense Ministry releases daily updates on its Telegram channel, reporting on the number of enemy combatants or equipment destroyed, it rarely indicates how many Russian service personnel are killed or injured, or how much military equipment is lost in the fighting.

The last time Moscow officially announced its losses was on September 21, when Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu stated that the Russian military had lost some 6,000 fighters since hostilities broke out in late February. According to the Ukrainian side, about 55,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.

[Bill Ryan]

https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/28433

[Bob_2011]

Uncovered: Box of gold teeth ‘pulled from Ukrainians’ at Russian torture chamber

What was the excuse for the Russians invading, Oh yea to de-Nazify Ukraine, hmm what does this (if its true) remind you of , yep !

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-un...090645157.html

[Fellow Aspirant]

It seems that the reinforcement of the Russian front lines is not going as smoothly as Mr. Putin had hoped, if these new reports have any merit:

source:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/vladim...r-off?ref=home

Putin’s Dueling Foot Soldiers Are Now Apparently Killing Each Other Off

Amid very public infighting between Russian groups, the Kremlin is reportedly trying to keep a lid on a Wagner mercenary shooting dead a lieutenant-colonel.

Allison Quinn

Updated Oct. 05, 2022 12:44PM ET / Published Oct. 05, 2022 12:42PM ET 
AFP via Getty

While Ukraine’s military has been successfully chasing Russian troops out of one territory after another, Vladimir Putin’s foot soldiers have apparently been turning their weapons on each other as the Russian leader’s “special military operation” continues to come apart at the seams in spectacular fashion.

The Kremlin’s flailing bid to get an edge on the battlefield by deploying mercenaries from the Wagner Group—which now includes hundreds of prison inmates—has reportedly backfired as the private military force butts heads with the Russian military.

The growing conflict resulted in a Wagner fighter gunning down a lieutenant colonel in the Russian army—a deadly episode of “friendly fire” that the Kremlin is said to be trying to sweep under the rug, according to the human rights group Gulagu.net.

“They are trying to hush up the incident and prevent publicity. And this is not the first emergency of its kind,” the group quoted a source as telling the Gulagu.net hotline.

The incident was also reported by two other Russian Telegram channels, though no details were provided on when or where the shooting is said to have taken place.

Dan Ladden-Hall

The alleged shooting is not the only recent instance of infighting between Russian troops.
Earlier this week, a mass brawl broke out between newly drafted Russian troops and contract soldiers at a military base outside Moscow, Baza reported. Nearly two dozen contract soldiers are said to have taken a beating from the draftees and were rescued after locking themselves in a separate room and phoning police for help. The fight reportedly erupted after some of the contract soldiers demanded the newly arrived draftees hand over their mobile phones and gear.

The tumult seen between the troops has also visibly carried over to Russia’s wider information space, with pro-Kremlin military bloggers getting increasingly outspoken in their criticisms of top military command and Putin’s more radical allies publicly deriding those in charge of the war.

“The controversies surrounding the poorly executed partial mobilization, coupled with significant Russian defeats in Kharkiv Oblast and around Lyman, have intensified infighting between pro-Putin Russian nationalist factions and are creating new fractures among voices who speak to Putin’s core constituencies,” the Institute for the Study of War wrote in its Tuesday assessment.

Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, one of the most vocal critics of the Russian Defense Ministry’s approach in recent days, announced Wednesday that “kind and beloved” Putin “personally” notified him he was being promoted to the rank of colonel general, a move that may be seen by some as a signal the Russian president is siding with hardliners like Kadyrov over his own defense officials.

Yevgeny Prigozhin, the puppetmaster behind the Wagner Group, has also emerged with that camp, echoing Kadyrov’s complaints about the Russian military after a humiliating retreat from Lyman over the weekend.

Sources close to the Kremlin told Meduza the Russian leader is reluctant to chastise them for ****-talking the military command because he considers both the Wagner mercenaries and Chechen battalions “effective” in the war.

Shannon

“Putin now finds himself in a dilemma. He cannot risk alienating the Kadyrov-Prigozhin camp, as he desperately needs Kadyrov’s Chechen forces and Prigozhin’s Wagner Group mercenaries to fight in Ukraine. Nor can he disenfranchise the MoD establishment, which provides the overwhelming majority of Russian military power in Ukraine and the institutional underpinnings needed to carry out the mobilization order and continue the war,” the ISW wrote.

After a series of catastrophic battlefield losses, Putin is now “interested in alternative methods of warfare” and those who offer them, one source told Meduza.

The very public discord between warring groups close to Putin has exposed glaring cracks in the Russian president’s war machine, even as Ukraine’s military plows ahead with a stunning counteroffensive to take back the country’s land. Ukraine reclaimed eight new villages in the Kherson region as of Tuesday night, President Volodymyr Zelensky said, and several others in Kharkiv, Luhansk, and Donetsk—territories that Putin, just days earlier, had proudly claimed were now part of Russia.

Asked on Wednesday to explain how Russia can claim territory from which its own troops retreated, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov offered an unconvincing response:
“There’s no kind of contradiction in this. [The territories] will be with Russia forever, they will be returned.”

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/s...65438049685517

https://twitter.com/rkidd01/status/1577772789242765313

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
It seems that the reinforcement of the Russian front lines is not going as smoothly as Mr. Putin had hoped, if these new reports have any merit:

No, they don't. The Daily Beast is NOT an authoritative source. (Of any kind! )