WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status...70378346242049

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/IFR2022/status/1580313537586827264

[Ravenlocke]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
I also assume the mods will let me know if what I post is inappropriate and they are free to delete all my posts.

It does take a lot of time and energy to find, discern and post most of this and I’m sorry that it offends some of you, it doesn’t make me feel good either, nor help me health wise but I want to know what’s going on from the “other side” , the unpopular side. So sorry to all of you that complained and are offended.
Also I wasn’t aware that you couldn’t post news contrary to what news I post. And I do not comment because it’s mostly self explanatory information.

I wish you all a good evening🌞

Ravenlocke, I do hope you saw and read my post #5751 on the previous page.

Nothing you've posted is inappropriate. It's very much appreciated. If I've been out for most or even half of the day, the first thing I do to see what's been happening is skim through your updates on this thread.

(And the useful thing with Twitter and Telegram is that one can indeed skim them quickly, impossible with long videos and not at all easy with long articles.)

You do a great job on the Turmoil and Chaos all over the Planet thread, too. Twitter and Telegram work well there, for exactly the same reasons. Who knew there was turmoil in Malawi? Or Panama? Or New Zealand? The quick-scan posts there, often featuring one-sentence summaries with an image or a short video, allow readers to then to dive more deeply into those specific news stories if they want to.

But they have to know the stories are there first, so they can be dived more deeply into.

So sorry to all of you that complained and are offended.

TargeT, accusing you of being a bot (he really meant it!), was out of order — and I'll state that publicly here.

It's SO simple for anyone to see from your 2271 posts that you're not! And they're all easy to search for and find, dating 11 years back to 2011.

"all of you that complained and are offended" may be a couple of people. Meanwhile, besides all the members who regularly follow this thread every day, I suspect for the same reasons I do, there are regularly 20, 30 or more guests reading the thread much of the day.

Why? Because this thread is an excellent, user-friendly, running real-time truth-committed ongoing news digest. (And searching the thread, an archive of events, too.)

You won't get that on CNN.

Hi Bill,

Thank so much, I really appreciate your encouragement, I apologize for taking so long to reply for personal reasons, and yes I did see your posts, Thank You!

I’ll continue to do my best as much as I can and thank you again and thank you Mods and everyone.

News is happening very fast and in large quantities and all of it connects the dots so I’ll try to bring it as quickly as possible.

Ravenlocke🌞🌞🌞🌻

[rgray222]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
But what is unclear to me is why are there people in Europe ready to oblige the USA's intentions of destroying Russia, even though the Soviet threat is long gone. I'm specifically talking about some EU people's apparent hatred against Russia from countries like Ukraine and Poland. This isn't a rhetorical question. Understanding this matter might be part of the key to resolving this conflict. Or maybe it's just the elite leaders of Poland who are insane, like Ania and Scott are saying in the above interview, and not the ordinary citizens. Would especially like to hear from any Polish person who might be following this thread.

Why do you think that Europe is obliging the USA? It appears to me that Europe is at least as complicit in the destruction of Russia as the USA. I have always marvelled at Europe's ability to ask the USA to do their heavy lifting and then lay blame on them when things go awry. Almost all the European nations have been duplicitous in their dealings with Russia.

When Trump started questioning the benefit of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization it sent the Europeans into a tailspin. Trump actually considered on many occasions pulling the USA from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. At the very least he wanted the European nations to pay the minimum agreed amount which is 2% of GDP. European countries pulled out their ATM cards and started lining up to fill the NATO coffers. Even before Putin went into Ukraine not one country (to my knowledge) said no we don't want NATO. As a matter of fact, more countries wanted entry into NATO than most Europeans were willing to accept. Now that the war is in full swing NATO's popularity seems to have hit an all-time high since its inception 73 years ago. In many respects, the people of the USA would be well served to remove themselves from NATO and let it become a stand-alone European organization.

The destructive actions of Putin and NATO are forcing countries to choose sides. This inevitably never ends well. I will be amazed if we can avoid a world war in the next few years.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by kfm27917 (here)
In Ukraine, filmed a staged video with dozens of wounded during explosions in Kyiv
Video footage and photographs of the wounded in Kyiv turned out to be staged scenes.

Yes.... this happens all the time.

Here's Zelensky in a green screen studio pretending to be on the streets in Kiev during a missile raid:

[Vicus]

RUSSIAN MILITARY RADIO BROADCASTS TO CITIZENS IN KHARKIV: "EVACUATE CITY NOW"


The Russian Army is using regular AM and FM radio to transmit to Ukrainian citizens in the city of Kharkiv. The broadcasts are telling them to evacuate that city immediately.

The military high-powered radio transmitters are even broadcasting directly ON TOP OF what would be the traditional radio stations in that area. The military transmitters are simply over-powering the regular radio stations.

Over the past 48-72 hours, Russian troop build-ups are showing what appears to be "Special Military Operation -Season 2" . . . only with very much more men.

On the map below, the hand-drawn circles in red show the present build-up of Russian forces, and the circles in blue show Ukrainian force locations.

Most of Ukraine's forces are engaged in the southeast of the country. The Ukraine troops to the east of Kharkiv, are now finding themselves squished between two superior Russian force groupings; one in the Belgorad region of Russia itself, the other in Luhansk. They seem to be inside a perfect "Pincer" situation.

Ominously for Ukraine, the sudden and very large build-up of Russian troops in Belarus, to the north and northwest of Kiev, looks very much like what existed when Russia initially began its Special Military Operation into Ukraine. At THAT time, the troops in Belarus, north of Kiev, moved in a 47 mile long convoy toward the city, but stopped without attacking.

It turned out to be a feint; Russia did that so as to force Ukraine to keep essential troops in the north to protect the capital, Kiev, while they moved against targets in the south. This time, however, it seems quite clear that if/when those Russian troops come out of Belarus again, Kiev could be mince-meat.

In addition, the Russian forces toward the top left of the map, also in Belarus, is an interesting build-up. Would they swoop in against Kiev, or will they head due south to Lutsk, Rivne . . . or both?

Stay tuned . . .

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...cuate-city-now

[Vicus]

OBiden Has Pushed Us To The Brink - Russia Sends Out
Mass Civil Defense Procedures And Instructions On How
To React To Nuclear Attacks - America Has No Civil Defens

10-12-22

This is 100 % confirmed! My wife received this from our children's kindergarten in Rostov Region Of Russia...

'Civil Defense - The procedure for the actions of the population on the GO signal when at work.
The signal 'ATTENTION TO ALL!'

Accompanied by the activation of sirens with intermittent beeps followed by verbal information about the signal GO.

* Upon hearing the SIGNAL, turn on your radio or television set and listen to the message about the situation and how to proceed.

* Pass on the information you receive to your neighbors.

* Act according to the messages you have been given.

* Ways you should notify ALL!!

* Television

* Loudspeakers

* Sirens

* Bell

*Radio

*Howls from businesses and vehicles.

*Phone, text messages.

* Mobile sound-amplifying installations

* Information board

*Social networks






Actions For The Population (inscriptions on the signs)

- Turn off lights, gas, water, heaters - Close windows and doors tightly
- Cover gaps around doors, vents with a wet cloth.
- Use personal protective equipment.
- Take cover in the nearest protective structure, buried room or other areas of underground space, including the subway.
- Report to the assembly area
- Evacuate to a safe area.


ACTIONS FOR...

* AIRBORNE ALARM

* CHEMICAL ALARM

* RADIATION ALARM

* THREAT OF CATASTROPHIC FLOODING



RESTRICTED SIGNAL

* Return to your place of work

* Be prepared for a possible repeat of the civil defense 'ATTENTION TO ALL' signal.

https://rense.com/general97/defense-procedures.php

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/imetatronink/sta...91253761368064

The Financial Times writes that the full digitization of Ukrainian President Zelensky could be completed by the end of this year. It is expected that he will become the world's first digital politician who will be able to speak at several international venues at the same time, regardless of the work schedule of the Ukrainian president.

“The speeches of the digital president will be prepared by the best American experts, based on the interests of the people of Ukraine. This is fantastic!” says US Senator Bob Menendez.

All statements by Zelensky and his digital twins will have the same legal force.

It is also planned to release a special cryptocurrency ZeCoin, which can be "mined" by financing humanitarian projects in the country, such as, for example, the development of democratic institutions. It is expected that in the future, ZeCoin holders will be able to influence decisions in the internal political life of post-war Ukraine.

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...07408270823424

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=goZORlVfges

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https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...16915479056384

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[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...15526098685952

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https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...17571111292928

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https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/s...89101426028546

[Ravenlocke]

Ania K interviews Scott Ritter,

SCOTT RITTER ON NATO'S NUCLEAR EXERCISES; SITUATION BETWEEN BELARUS AND POLAND; RUSSIA AND UKRAINE.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UlP6rtawQLo

[I am B]

This is hitting a bit different for once. My feed is obviously blatantly biased. And I'm regularly getting much WW3 and nuclear talk. But now its not even second hand articles with the typical "Russia said so".

All the media and all the personalities are 100% personally onto it, and now even the prime minister of France just posts this pointless post for, imho, just start putting the populace on the trails of accepting a "being forced" into WW3 narrative. (maybe after a unexpected nuclear boom)

[Ravenlocke]

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...93599854809088

[Fellow Aspirant]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...17571111292928

This looks like a dangerous escalation on Putin's part. Why would he increase the fear of nuclear war?

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[I am B]

EDIT: Sorry, I'm afraid I wasn't completely understanding your post since the twit you quoted didn't appear for me


To blame a false flag on Russia. He'd get a nice humanitarian medal for himself (since they "didn't answer to the provocation" they set up, saving us from nuclear armageddon), and then follow with a bigger scale conflict.

But this is just speculation of course. Imvho, I don't think Russia would go on with the nukes unless their territorial integrity is in danger, which is not at this point, far from it. And we all know at this point how big of an appreciation the west has for Ukraine's people and army...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
This looks like a dangerous escalation on Putin's part. Why would he increase the fear of nuclear war?

He hasn't.

The escalation is coming from the US.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Certainly possible, given the Buk System's unreliability, as in this incident when the Russians fired on a target in Ukraine and the missile promptly turned back and destroyed its own launch system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggnLvF6nDbQ

It's also more likely that the missile was fired by Russian forces.

B