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    https://sputniknews.com/20221106/was...103822796.html

    Washington Wants Kiev to Signal Openness to Dialogue With Russia, Report Suggests

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The administration of US President Joe Biden is privately encouraging Kiev to demonstrate a readiness to negotiate with Moscow, American newspaper reports citing people familiar with the discussions.


    The newspaper said on Saturday that Washington does not want Ukraine to start negotiations with Russia, but, instead, aims to ensure that Kiev has the support of other countries.
    "Ukraine fatigue is a real thing for some of our partners," one US official said.
    According to the newspaper, concerns are mounting in parts of Europe, Africa and Latin America, as food and fuel prices are rising amid Russia’s ongoing special operation in Ukraine.

    Russia-Ukraine talks began at the end of February after the start of Moscow's military operation. The last round of the negotiations concluded in Istanbul on March 29. The talks have since stalled.
    In late September, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Moscow was still open to talks with Kiev and called on Ukraine to stop the hostilities. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in turn, stated that Kiev was ready for dialogue with Moscow, but only if another president came to power in Russia. The Kremlin responded that Moscow would wait for a change in the stance of Ukraine's current president or his successor.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/...66371799453696
    Bumping this. It's not the most important piece of news here, but it's well worth watching — with quite some respect and amazement.

    I've seen dozens of Telegram videos showing unfortunate soldiers (almost all Ukrainians) being blown to pieces. I never post those.

    In this case, the soldier has the presence of mind to quickly swat away from him a couple of drone-dropped grenades, like they were irritating flies. He is clearly unharmed. A number of Russian Telegram commentators said they'd never seen anything like it.

    It'd be interesting to know if he was identified. Though he may have been a humble infantryman, he might just possibly become a minor celebrity. He was surely under quite some stress, but the way he handled it all was impressive.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/...66371799453696
    Bumping this. It's not the most important piece of news here, but it's well worth watching — with quite some respect and amazement.

    I've seen dozens of Telegram videos showing unfortunate soldiers (almost all Ukrainians) being blown to pieces. I never post those.

    In this case, the soldier has the presence of mind to quickly swat away from him a couple of drone-dropped grenades, like they were irritating flies. He is clearly unharmed. A number of Russian Telegram commentators said they'd never seen anything like it.

    It'd be interesting to know if he was identified. Though he may have been a humble infantryman, he might just possibly become a minor celebrity. He was surely under quite some stress, but the way he handled it all was impressive.
    Hi Bill

    Yes bravery beyond understanding in our lives….further down the twitter thread 2 soldiers weren’t so lucky… ☹️ And to think this is just another day at the office, how sad.

    It’s about time we had ‘intervention’.

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    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    It’s about time we had intervention.
    Well, we might be careful what we wish for. Realistic peace initiatives are welcome (emphasizing the word 'realistic'. ) But 'intervention' from the US, NATO, the UN, or any so-called 'coalition of the willing' would absolutely be a formula for dangerous escalation.

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    https://twitter.com/colonelhomsi/sta...15576662945792




    https://twitter.com/jaccocharite/sta...99270792138754


    https://twitter.com/jaccocharite/sta...99280434835456

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    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...23703346569216

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    As Bill pointed out here, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1526375

    “Be careful what you wish for”

    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...04330402025472




    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...04425084248065




    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...95030627241985




    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...95040416747520



    https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/st...95045441503232

    Last edited by Ravenlocke; 6th November 2022 at 20:17.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by viking (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://twitter.com/Ukraine66251776/...66371799453696
    Bumping this. It's not the most important piece of news here, but it's well worth watching — with quite some respect and amazement.

    I've seen dozens of Telegram videos showing unfortunate soldiers (almost all Ukrainians) being blown to pieces. I never post those.

    In this case, the soldier has the presence of mind to quickly swat away from him a couple of drone-dropped grenades, like they were irritating flies. He is clearly unharmed. A number of Russian Telegram commentators said they'd never seen anything like it.

    It'd be interesting to know if he was identified. Though he may have been a humble infantryman, he might just possibly become a minor celebrity. He was surely under quite some stress, but the way he handled it all was impressive.
    Hi Bill

    Yes bravery beyond understanding in our lives….further down the twitter thread 2 soldiers weren’t so lucky… ☹️ And to think this is just another day at the office, how sad.

    It’s about time we had intervention.

    Viking
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    Developing..

    https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1589320026452287492

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Vicus (here)
    (...) As only Latin-American poster in this Thread enjoy and comfort me to know: not one Latin-Americans country vote pro Nazi...

    After common sense, the reason Number 1 is we "know" from live experiences what military regime's are about...(but today mitary uniforms are not "in " anymore...)

    All of them support when not self instigated from " the empire of lies" and his minions...

    Last year only USA and Ukraine were the only supporters and today all the "west" let his mask fallen...

    All the decades , movies , TV shows, documental, books, etc. showing the west heroisms against Nazi Europa, and now...

    I feel sadness and rage but a new hope too...all Latin-American's in one voice say: nunca mas! (never again!)
    Gracias Vicus, cierto : ¡nunca mas! For more than a century the Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries of America have fought the exceptionalist and racist and hegemonist policy of their Northern “neighbours” – suffering all kinds of tyrannical regimes brought to power by the hegemonists by way of corruption. It is South America (and to an ever larger extent Africa) that knows from experience what being dominated means – and so they will show the way to go after the collapse of the criminal political entities.

    The massive "pro-Nazi” vote – because that is what it is – of the Western countries shows how degenerate they have become. (Cf. my reaction to Tomkat’s post about Fascism: they are much too concerned about being "equal”, and not concerned at all about being "fair" – and because of their being lazy and ignorant excellence has gotten out of their reach.)
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    This might be an interesting reference: (Alexander Mercouris, just 10 mins, citing the Chinese official readout of the conversation)

    Xi Jinping schools Scholz during quick trip to China

    There are so many curious things that happened during Scholz's visit to Beijing. I found it absolutely astounding that Xi Jinping quoted (from Helmut Schmidt ) the Alcoholics' prayer.

    Quote God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    The courage to change the things I can,
    And the wisdom to know the difference.

    The first thing that crossed my mind when I heard the alcoholic's prayer was that his arrogance is beyond narcissism. You can easily see and sense (even from afar) that Xi has an inflated sense of his own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, and a true lack of empathy and zero understanding of others. Several of these things are present in most world leaders but in Xi, they are in abundance and very obvious. I honestly believe he is the most dangerous leader that I have seen in my lifetime.

    The bottom line of this meeting was:
    • Ukraine is caught in the middle, they are being used by Europe, the USA, Russia, and China.
    • Russia may very well win the war with Ukraine but they have lost the broader war across the globe. They have allowed their resources to essentially become Chinese property. China has perfected this technique thru its Belt and Road initiative and Russia represents the largest and best conquest to date. Brazil was sitting in the first seat of the Chinese orchestra but Russia has now claimed that spot. Brazil eagerly scampered into the second seat position.
    • Zelenskyy clearly chose sides prior to the war with Russia by taking billions of dollars of graft from Biden. The corruption of the Biden family in regard to Ukraine is massive and it is becoming more clear by the day. The support of the USA is about to either stop or slow to a trickle. Some sort of deal to end this war is absolutely imminent.
    • Scholz who runs the largest economy in Europe was warned not to screw with China. Jinping told Scholz we saw how you dealt with Russia and if you do the same thing with us there will be severe consequences. If Scholz did not get the message after flying 15 hours for exactly a two-hour meeting then shame on him.
    • By publicly telling Russia not to use nukes Xi Jinping told European leaders that he now exerts control over Russia and therefore has influence and power in their own backyard.
    • China was also telling the USA that Russia has always been its adversary and now they are under our wing, when you deal with Russia you are also dealing with China.
    • China continues to refuse to criticize Russia for its invasion of Ukraine which is a fairly clear indication that they will attempt reunification with Taiwan thru force if necessary.

    Just as a footnote, the Germans have a long history of trade with Russia, and over the years they allowed themselves to become complacent about the issue of fuel and it is now costing them dearly. Trump told them not to buy all their fuel from Russia at a UN meeting and the German delegation laughed. Germany played Russian roulette and lost. They must now guard against becoming too dependent on China.
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