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    25 November 2022

    Dear diary, today i feel like slapping someone for the first time in a long while

    Sometimes, i think a slap in the face is the only way to apply some common sense into the dense and narrow minds of some people who act like zombies

    I shall invent a new way to introduce common sense into dense like a rock minds, i'll call it 'The way of a thousand slaps'

    All roads to common sense start with a first slap, followed by 999 more continuous slaps

    If all goes well, after a thousand slaps the person may be so traumatized and brain damaged that they won't even know why or how it all started, but at least they won't be able to remember the time they proudly supported the Nazis. And that's a win for them, because there must be nothing worse than the cringe you'll get a couple years after it all ends and you remember that you proudly called for "Slava Ukraini" at some point in your life

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    “Putin has failed in many ways including failure against NATO, it’s time for Russia to leave Ukraine isn’t it?”, that’s one of the questions posed to the ambassador in this 22 minute interview.


    BBC Newsnight uses own incompetence as argument in interview with Ambassador Andrei Kelin, 22.11.22

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    Bill Ryan already posted this on this thread but here it is one of several tweets on Twitter about it.

    https://twitter.com/OCanonist/status...85861462626304


    And with English subtitles,

    https://twitter.com/BetteRyan1970/st...59898781331457

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    Bij way of an answer to your

    Dear diary, today i feel like slapping someone for the first time in a long while

    , Mashika...

    It is precisely because "there is nothing worse than the cringe" that it is not so much one or one thousand "slaps in the face" that will achieve anything, but precisely that cringe.

    The people we fight should not so much "wake up" (a cherished expression in NewAgeia) or "grow up" – what you have written – but repent, shocked to never-ending tears by their own depravity.

    The Donets/Lugansk or Russian soldiers do not meet monsters when they meet the average Ukrainian soldier, but they may kill him or be killed by him, and when they meet the Divine after their death, "there was no other way" will be accepted as a sufficient reason for the kill in the predicament they were in as a soldier. That is also why reponsible leaders and armies neither have prisoners of war tortured nor torture them. Because torturing another human will not be forgiven by the Divine.

    However, a person who tortures another human (or an animal, in my humble opinion) has become, at the latest when proceeding to that torturing, heartless – in the spiritual meaning that his or her spiritual centre left, or was taken out of, her or his body and soul. It amounts to this person having become an A.I.-directed robot, a "droid".

    Consequently, nothing stands between the “termination” of this person (or rather of their heart-less shell) except mercy, which their still heart-full captors may be (but are not required to be) able and willing to show. This mercy may allow them after not one thousand slaps but after one thousand viewings of the recordings of the torture of their own or their fellow torturers’ victims to finally shed tears of remorse.

    Only then can they be "reintegrated" into humanity by trying and asking forgiveness from the beloved ones of their victims.

    This was the basic idea behind the gacaca tribunals in Rwanda. When we torture we leave humanity. It is only our "cringing", i.e. our total surrender to remorse for our deeds and pity for our victims that makes us eligible for getting a chance to somehow atone.

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    As a not unimportant side note: it is my conviction that Russia would be wise and successful in starting a massive psychological operation on the Ukrainian population (using hacking and other propaganda means) aimed at driving a wedge between the torturers and the (normal) soldiers so that the "still human" Ukrainians and soldiers turn against (their) torturers and "inhuman" "combatants in their name".
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    MAIMED In A PLAYGROUND By Ukrainian Petal Mine


    On the 14th of November, @JohnMarkDougan-BadVolf ,
    EvaKBartlett Masha and I were PRIVILEGED to be given the honour of meeting this remarkable young man. Bloodied, but not broken, he is on the road to recovery in the hands of the heroes and heroines working in the hospitals of Donetsk and Moscow.

    Nikita is 14 years old. He loved to break dance and was into MMA. His dreams have NOT been crushed, rather, they've been made more challenging due to the Barbarism and war crimes practiced by Ukraine as they continue to fire prohibited munitions into residential areas of Donbass, often harming children, emergency workers, the elderly and partially sighted, among many other civilians.



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    “Putin has failed in many ways including failure against NATO, it’s time for Russia to leave Ukraine isn’t it?”, that’s one of the questions posed to the ambassador in this 22 minute interview.


    BBC Newsnight uses own incompetence as argument in interview with Ambassador Andrei Kelin, 22.11.22



    https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/s...81729097953280

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    English transcript of the Korean video

    Ukraine is now in ruins from the war, but the upper classes of Kyiv are living in a different world, staying in such a nice beach Cote D'Azur, and Monaco in the south of France. Produced by independent journalist Ukraine Pravda, the documentary shows Ukrainian oligarchs who are relaxing in villas, mansions and yachts in Cote D'Azur.

    The documentary title is Батальйо “МОНАКО” Monaco Battalion. Ukraine has great battalions. There is the Azov battalion, there is the Monaco battalion. Off the coast of Monaco, Ukrainian oligarch Konstantin Zhivago is shown relaxing in elegance on his $70 million private superyacht. This yacht is a super luxury class with a length of 65 metres. Strangely, name of the yacht is Z.

    The owner of the ship claims that Z has nothing to do with the special military operation and is derived from his own name, Zhivago. The Yacht graces the coastline of Cote D'Azur. Konstantin Zhivago is on a wanted list in Kyiv. He is said to have embezzled $70 million while doing business in Ukraine. However, it is not clear whether he actually embezzled or was stamped because he did not pay the money.

    On Cote D'Azur, oligarch Alexandre Yaroslavsky, who had pledged to sell his yacht to finance Kharkov's reconstruction, enjoys a leisurely life. Cote D'Azur, famous in Europe for its expensive land price, is home to many Ukrainians who fled as soon as the war broke out. Luxury vehicles with Ukrainian license plates are not uncommon here.

    Oligarchs staying in Monaco are not only Zhivago. Another family of oligarchs, Hrihyori Surkis, also resides here. This person is said to be a pro-Russian oligarch, but there is no distinction between pro-Russian and pro-Ukrainians when it comes to money. He has been living in Monaco since the beginning of the war, so he will not go back. Surkis left Ukraine with $17 million.

    However, this is nothing compared to the protagonists of Euromaidan. Zelensky made a show of staying in Kyiv and fighting, but his parents and relatives all fled abroad. Petro Poroshenko also came to Ukraine briefly to put on a show in a bulletproof vest, but he fled his children to England and he himself is now in England. The money Poroshenko took out to Britain was $1 billion in cash. In addition, former Interior Minister Arsene Avakov, Chief of Staff to President Andriy Yermak, 2nd President Leonid Kuchma, and former Prime Minister Arsenyi Yachenyuk also stole at least 1 billion dollars abroad.

    It is easy to go abroad even if you are not at the highest level, but at a certain level of high rank. It's military service, and if you pay a bribe, you'll pass without incident. Cross-border bribe ranges from $8,000 to $10,000. The escape of Ukrainian elites abroad began right before the special military operation. On February 14, 2022, ten days before the outbreak of the conflict, 37 members of the ruling People's Servants of the Zelensky faction disappeared. They sensed the war and fled.

    On February 14, not only politicians but also major oligarchs left Kyiv with private passengers in their 20s. Businessmen and MPs Vadim Novinsky, businessmen Vasily Khmelnytsky, Vadim Stolar, Vadim Nesterenko and Andriy Stavnicher all departed by chartered plane. Billionaire politician Igor Abramovich left Kyiv with his relatives, business partners and fellow party members on a private plane bound for Austria.

    Now the western media paints Ukraine as if it is fighting against Russia bravely, but the state function is paralyzed. Regardless of what happens to the people, each one dreams of a luxurious vacation by escaping abroad. On July 20, in the midst of summer, only 99 out of 450 were present at Congress. All intoxicated and preoccupied with yachts in Cote D'Azur, Monaco, Nice, and the Mediterranean. Ukrainian lawmakers, meanwhile, have raised their salary by 70%.

    This is how the country looks like, so whether it's military aid or humanitarian aid, it's all pouring water into the bottomless pot. The US CBS broadcast reported that only 30% of the weapons supplied to Ukraine are delivered and the rest disappear in the middle. It is said that it is not delivered to the frontline troops fighting Russia, but it is not even traced where it goes. Drones, switchblades, firearms, bulletproof vests and anti-tank weapons are also making their way to the black market. It's not like 30% disappears, it's 70% are stolen.

    On a CBS program, a Ukrainian soldier named Ivan confessed that he was buying a bulletproof vest and a helmet at his own expense because supplies were not being delivered. On the other hand, Samantha Morris, a doctor who traveled to Ukraine from the United States, said that general corruption, including drug theft, was rampant. He even said that 15 supply trucks disappeared entirely.

    Even the British Telegraph reports that stolen medical supplies are later found on the shelves of hospital pharmacies. Foreign medical staff confessed that they bought these medicines at their own expense and provided them to patients free of charge. An American doctor named Samantha Morris said that the head of a hospital in Dnipro stole all the painkillers and sold them to the market, so he couldn't give painkillers to the injured who were being treated.

    In addition, officials in Zaporozhye stole 22 sea containers, 389 railroad cars, and 220 trucks in six months, claiming to be distributing relief goods. They also sold the stolen humanitarian aid goods for money. Sympathy for a country at war is human. However, even in the face of an economic crisis due to the boomerang effect after many Western countries said they were helping Ukraine, corrupt Kyiv's high-ranking officials are accumulating personal wealth. Not only that, the general public enjoys resort luxuries that they couldn't even dream of.

    Here's the next news. The New York Times reported on November 24 that an AGM-8B HARM missile, supplied by the United States to Kyiv, struck a civilian building in Ukraine on September 26, injuring three people. According to the newspaper, a missile launched by an Ukrainian Air Force MiG-29,
    malfunctioned and deviated from the target and hit the fifth floor of a residential building in Kramatorsk.

    Reporters at the scene found in the debris the electronic circuit card assembly number used in the AGM-8B missile. The NYT analyzed that the missile failed to find Russian radar and destroyed a civilian building due to running out of fuel. A spokesman for Ukraine's Ministry of Defense declined to comment on the matter. However, some analyze that the HARM missile misunderstood the TV antenna of a civilian building as a radar and followed it.

    The weapons that Washington provided to Kyiv are surprisingly phony. Most recently, several people were killed when a US-supplied NASSAMS surface-to-air missile struck a civilian building in Kyiv. NASSAMS has been touting the AIM-120 surface-to-air missile as a weapon system that has been improvised as a surface-to-air weapon system to defend the US White House.

    Two days ago, the US and the West accused Russia of airstrikes in Kyiv of targeting civilians. Russia is revealing that it has succeeded in precision strikes by selecting only infrastructure that can be used for military purposes. In response, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas, who is siding with Ukraine, is making the nonsense that Russia is weaponizing winter.



    Bye-bye, Kiev, hello Cote d’Azur: As Westerners send aid, here’s how Ukraine’s corrupt elites are profiting from the conflict

    Source: https://www.rt.com/russia/566935-they-robbed-ukraine/

    БАТАЛЬЙОН "ВІДЕНЬ" 2. УП знайшла українських втікачів, віп-біженців та віп-туристів | Розслідування
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    It's all false and nothing will be done about it, they only expect to save face and then let some time go so that people forget and move on, these UN 'officials' are criminals and nothing more

    The other thing is, the shelling of the power plant, they 'don't know who did it and from where it came from'. Well anyone, any soldier that has worked artillery can tell you where it came from and the distance and plenty more in less than 10 minutes, mostly 5 minutes is all it takes to figure out where a shell came from and then shoot back at it

    Isn't it interesting that a finger can always be pointed at "the enemy", but with major incidents like 9/11 or Nordstream 2, the most sophisticated defenses in the world are penetrated with impunity and no one has a clue??

    And on "small" things like targeting a nuclear reactor--I suppose, with some hope that some small % of the fallout might drift into Russia--if Ukraine did it, then it was "an accident/unintentional"?

    That is, at best they are in the "fog of war" with Musk's Starlink and probably all of the U. S. satellite recon, but they are "shooting blindly" just to be shooting at something?

    The U. N. is pretty much an expanded NATO with bait for everyone to join, it does not really have another raison d'etre, in fact it would take a serious rewind and review to persuade me that it has ever accomplished anything useful. I forget the guy's name, pre-WHO, a Dr. Brock or something made a "radical" speech where he said, well, we should not automatically teach our children to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and so forth...pretty reasonable if you read what he actually said. However, he is famously taken out of context as the "architect of the NWO" and so forth, quite distorted from what actually happened.

    Very stupid tricks.

    Anything to make you "look that way" seems to work, yes, everyone is still getting away with everything...despite mountains of actual evidence already taken from Ukraine, plus additional news of financial and political corruption both driving and depending on this mess.

    Keep in mind that the U. N. as such is mostly the product of engineered fascism in South America.





    Quote I'm ashamed of looking at how people still play the defend the indefensible game. When are they going to grow up? People are dying and the idiotic behavior of 'it doesn't matter as long as Putin loses' is the main reason for the death of thousands.

    This is an insult to intelligence, a spit in the face of the people of this world. There are no words to describe how much of an hypocrite the 'democratic world' has become


    This is the kind of thing that concerns me about Zone B, the 85%, global south, and so forth. By using English as the international language, I am afraid they are hypnotized by the word "democracy" and a lot of things about our financial system. I am afraid they may see these things as leading to material prosperity and therefor desirable.

    It seems to be worse in India than in Russia and China.

    Once you adopt "western values", they are notoriously hard to get rid of!



    As an example, here was something else that ran amuck in Ukraine. It lies twice before it even starts talking. To understand English, a "Nation" is a culture, such as Welsh, Kurdish, or Maori. The biggest clues are they speak a mutually-intelligible language, and share a similar diet. So, the United States cannot possibly be a nation, but if you wanted to say the Navajo Nation or something like that, you would be correct. The medium size island of New Guinea has about 80 nations. Some of them were so nationalistic that they did not even know there was such a thing as other people! Never walk more than twenty miles from where you were born. This would be a natural consequence.

    Anyway, here is some English about two lies in NED, or National Endowment for Democracy:



    Last week, Sputnik obtained documents indicating that the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a US foundation, had interfered in the latest Malaysian elections. What is the NED, and why has it been repeatedly accused of fomenting coups d'etat worldwide?

    The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is a self-described private, nonprofit foundation, which was founded in 1983. The organization is known for funding and supporting various non-governmental groups and institutions around the world which propagate "democratic" values.

    According to the organization's official website, each year, the NED makes more than 2,000 grants to support the projects of NGOs working in more than 100 countries. But where does the money come from?

    The non-profit admits that it receives an annual appropriation (about $100 million) from the US Congress through the Department of State and therefore is largely dependent on the continued support of the White House and American lawmakers. In a bid to maintain the veneer of a somewhat independent organization, the entity insists that its self-governing board of directors controls how the appropriation is spent.

    NED's Board: Ex-Government Officials in Charge

    What does NED's "independent board" look like? Like his famous predecessor, Carl Gershman, NED President and CEO Damon M. Wilson is a former civil servant.

    From 2001 to 2004, Wilson served as deputy director of the Private Office of the NATO Secretary General, then, between 2004 and 2006, he worked as the director for Central, Eastern, and Northern European Affairs at the National Security Council. In 2007, he assumed the positions of executive secretary and chief of staff at the US Embassy in Baghdad, while between December 2007 and January 2009, Wilson worked as senior director for European affairs at the National Security Council.
    NED's Vice Chairman Karen Bass is a member of the House of Representatives, while the entity's other two vice chairmen, Peter Roskam and David E. Skaggs, are also former congressmen. NED Secretary Marlene Colucci is a former special assistant to the president under the Bush administration. Michele Dunne, a treasurer, was a Middle East specialist at the US Department of State from 1986 to 2003, where she served in assignments that included the National Security Council, the Secretary’s Policy Planning Staff, the US Embassy in Cairo, the US Consulate General in Jerusalem, and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research. With a board packed by mostly career politicians and civil servants, the NED resembles nothing so much as a branch of the US government, rather than a "private" non-profit.


    How NED Made CIA Covert Ops Overt

    The story of the NED's creation also shows the entity's close connection with the US government. Rather than being an independent freedom-loving grant-disbursing entity, the NED is a brainchild of Cold War hawks seeking to curtail Soviet influence and implode the Soviet bloc from within, according to US independent journalists.

    The entity's roots apparently trace back to the 1960s, when the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) ran a program "which support[ed] media and contact activities aimed at stimulating and sustaining pressures for liberalization and evolutionary change from within the Soviet Union," the Soviet bloc, and its potential allies in the third world. The agency came under criticism when it came to light that it was funding and training opposition groups in countries tilting towards communism.
    The other problem was that ties with the CIA cast a shadow on recipients of Washington's aid and their activities, which were meant to look like a grass-root noble "freedom fight." Therefore, the US government sought to create a separate vehicle, unaffiliated with US spooks, to do the job from the shadows.

    In 1986, the US mainstream press admitted that the NED's program resembles the aid given by the CIA in the 1950s, 60s and 70s to bolster pro-American political groups worldwide. The NED's co-founder Carl Gershman explained at the time: ''It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world to be seen as subsidized by the CIA. We saw that in the 60's, and that's why it has been discontinued. We have not had the capability of doing this, and that's why the endowment was created.''
    Allen Weinstein, the other founder of the NED, put it more straightforwardly to the US press in 1991: "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA." Weinstein provided a glimpse of what he had been doing, including having a hand in the collapse of the USSR and protest movements in Eastern Europe in 1989; meddling in elections in the Philippines, Panama, and Nicaragua to "topple undemocratic regimes" there; consulting parliamentarians from the ex-Warsaw Pact's Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Poland, and even assisting constitution-drafters in these countries.

    Some US investigative reporters argue that despite being settled as a separate entity, the NED maintained ties with the CIA. They allege that behind the NED's creation in 1983 were specifically CIA Director William J. Casey and senior CIA covert operations specialist Walter Raymond Jr. Remarkably, a scan of Raymond's note dated January 2, 1985, appears to indicate that the NED's co-founder Carl Gershman coordinated decisions on grants with him.


    NED's Post-Cold War Activities

    The NED did not cease to exist after the USSR collapsed; quite the contrary, it stepped up its operations, at a time when the US was emerging as the sole superpower.

    In 2003, then Texan Republican Representative Ron Paul called the NED as "nothing more than a costly program that takes US taxpayer funds to promote favored politicians and political parties abroad." The congressman explained that what the NED was doing in foreign countries would be "rightly illegal" in the US. Contrary to its established goals, the NED has been harassing duly elected governments, interfering in foreign elections, and emboldening the corruption of "democratic movements," according to the politician.

    The NED operates four core recipient organizations: the National Democratic Institute (NDI) and the International Republican Institute (IRI), which promote the US "democratic" political agenda abroad; the Solidarity Center, which partners directly with workers and their unions across the world, "supporting their struggle"; and the Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE), which engages in overseas local private enterprises. Through these entities, the NED has considerably enhanced its presence and influence across the world over the past decades.

    The NED is accused of fomenting regime changes in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Asia, which the US mainstream press has had no scruples with bragging about. The list includes the 2000 Velvet Revolution in Serbia, which overthrew the Slobodan Milosevic government; the 2004 Rose Revolution in Georgia; the 2004 Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the Euromaidan coup of 2014. Earlier, between 2013 and 2014, the NED poured millions into its vast network of NGOs and activists in Russia, trying to disrupt and smear Russia's elections, influence government policy, and discredit the country's armed forces. In July 2015, the NED was declared an "undesirable organization" by Russia.

    The organization played a big role sowing chaos in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region. The US press revealed in 2011 how "a small core of American government-financed organizations" had helped ignite uprisings during the Arab Spring against "authoritarian governments" in MENA. According to the media, the Youth Movement in Egypt, the Bahrain Center for Human Rights, and Yemeni activists received training and financing from groups like the IRI, NDI, and Freedom House, funded by the NED. Would-be Arab rebels also attended technology meetings in New York in 2008, sponsored by Facebook*, Google, MTV, Columbia Law School, and the State Department. In 2011, a wave of revolutions engulfed Egypt, Yemen, Jordan, Algeria, Syria, Libya, and other countries.

    When it comes to Latin America, the US government, the NED and another of Washington's non-profits, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), have been accused of trying to subsidize coups against Hugo Chavez and Nicholas Maduro in 2002 and 2019, respectively. In 2008, then Bolivian government official Juan Ramón Quintana claimed that the NED provided $10 million in 2007-2015 to NGOs and institutions to undermine the Evo Morales government. Some suspect that the NED was also involved in Evo Morales' ouster in 2019 via funding of the Fundacion para el Periodismo (Foundation for the Media) and Agencia de Noticias Fides Compania de Jesus (FIDES News Agency Company). The NED is also said to have spent tens of millions on botched attempts to topple then-Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa in 2010 and 2015.
    In Asia, the NED was seen meddling in Hong Kong’s elections and interfering in China’s internal affairs via its core institution, the NDI. According to the Chinese government, the NED has funded opposition parties, groups, and organizations in Hong Kong since as early as 1997; in 2020 alone, the NED funneled two million US dollars to 11 Hong Kong-related projects, with a particular focus on disrupting LegCo elections. The US entity was also reported interfering in the affairs of ASEAN member states, including Myanmar and, recently, Malaysia.

    Furthermore, British investigative website Declassified UK claimed in January 2022 that the NED had poured over £2.6 million ($3.15 million) into seven British independent media groups over the past five years, thus showing that Washington is eager to meddle in its Western allies' affairs, too. According to journalists, the list of recipients of the NED's generous aid include UK investigative groups Bellingcat, Finance Uncovered and openDemocracy, freedom and training organizations Index on Censorship, Article 19, the Media Legal Defence Initiative, and the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

    Tip of Iceberg

    The NED, the heir of the CIA's covert Cold War programs, is continuing to build up its networks abroad and interfere in the sovereign affairs of world players to maintain Washington's dominance. Still, this is only the tip of the iceberg of the US' broader power structure, comprising its global spying and cyber apparatus busted by ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden and WikiLeaks, CIA black sites, Pentagon military bases spread around the world, hundreds of secret overseas biolabs, and many other facilities which have yet to be scrutinized by the international community.

    *Facebook is banned in Russia as an extremist organization.



    Now, we don't know about this yet, because it was in the dark, just like Ukraine. Doesn't that sound suspicious? It sounds suspicious. I suspect the usual suspects, including ISIS, the Albanian Mafia, the CIA, the Bundeswehr, the Basque Separatists, the Shmoo, the Jewish Nazis, and Mr. Ukraine himself who figured out where true value lies, Gold:


    A brazen late-night robbery of a German museum has local officials reeling as regional authorities suspect “organized crime” is behind the million-dollar caper.

    A trove of ancient Celtic gold coins worth millions was stolen from a German museum, police revealed Tuesday.
    State police in Bavaria said thieves made off with 483 coins and a lump of gold from the Celtic and Roman Museum in Manching, Germany, after making it in and out of the building in less than ten minutes – and all without alerting authorities to their presence.

    Per a preliminary investigation, the thieves pulled off the expert caper by disabling the power – and not just to the alarms connecting the museum to police, but to “the whole of Manching,” Mayor Herbert Nerb reportedly told a local media outlet.
    Police say at just past 1 a.m. on Tuesday, the bandits snipped a cable at a telecoms hub and severed over 1,000 local connections, then broke into the museum and made off with the stash of gold, before finally vanishing into the night – all within under 20 minutes from start to finish.

    Police quickly determined the telecoms attack was likely linked to an attempted robbery, but they misjudged the target. Instead of sending patrol cars to the museums, officers ended up at local banks instead.

    The Bavarian minister of science and arts, Markus Blume, described “the loss of the Celtic treasure” as a “disaster,” noting that “as a testament to our history, the gold coins are irreplaceable.”

    Highlighting the “incredible criminal energy” of the perpetrators, Blume claimed the heist was likely to be the work of trained professionals.

    “It’s clear that you don’t simply march into a museum and take this treasure with you,” he reportedly told a German public broadcaster. “It’s highly secured and as such there’s a suspicion that we’re rather dealing with a case of organized crime.”



    Bavaria is...let me translate...kaching kaching...Hong Kong in German. I don't have any proof, I just know I owned all the gold in Manching with my mind, and, someone had better do something, like make Germany a truly democratic country.

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    Something about a picture and a thousand words...


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    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    Bij way of an answer to your

    Dear diary, today i feel like slapping someone for the first time in a long while

    , Mashika...

    It is precisely because "there is nothing worse than the cringe" that it is not so much one or one thousand "slaps in the face" that will achieve anything, but precisely that cringe.

    The people we fight should not so much "wake up" (a cherished expression in NewAgeia) or "grow up" – what you have written – but repent, shocked to never-ending tears by their own depravity.

    The Donets/Lugansk or Russian soldiers do not meet monsters when they meet the average Ukrainian soldier, but they may kill him or be killed by him, and when they meet the Divine after their death, "there was no other way" will be accepted as a sufficient reason for the kill in the predicament they were in as a soldier. That is also why reponsible leaders and armies neither have prisoners of war tortured nor torture them. Because torturing another human will not be forgiven by the Divine.

    However, a person who tortures another human (or an animal, in my humble opinion) has become, at the latest when proceeding to that torturing, heartless – in the spiritual meaning that his or her spiritual centre left, or was taken out of, her or his body and soul. It amounts to this person having become an A.I.-directed robot, a "droid".

    Consequently, nothing stands between the “termination” of this person (or rather of their heart-less shell) except mercy, which their still heart-full captors may be (but are not required to be) able and willing to show. This mercy may allow them after not one thousand slaps but after one thousand viewings of the recordings of the torture of their own or their fellow torturers’ victims to finally shed tears of remorse.

    Only then can they be "reintegrated" into humanity by trying and asking forgiveness from the beloved ones of their victims.

    This was the basic idea behind the gacaca tribunals in Rwanda. When we torture we leave humanity. It is only our "cringing", i.e. our total surrender to remorse for our deeds and pity for our victims that makes us eligible for getting a chance to somehow atone.

    ***

    As a not unimportant side note: it is my conviction that Russia would be wise and successful in starting a massive psychological operation on the Ukrainian population (using hacking and other propaganda means) aimed at driving a wedge between the torturers and the (normal) soldiers so that the "still human" Ukrainians and soldiers turn against (their) torturers and "inhuman" "combatants in their name".
    My frustration is not about or around how soldiers act, or what happens when we fight each other, it is mostly about the regular civilians who have no idea what's going on over the battle field but still have this dumb perception that they have a well informed clue, just based on propaganda that even for a random kid it makes no sense

    For example: "Oh, i see there's a video of UkroNazis killing people openly and then they brag about it" but i don't see a reason to consider that group is bad, maybe this was a one off

    Two weeks later it happens again, then they say "oh ok, but it happened only twice in the past months, surely it would be more obvious and constant if all of them were nazi murderers"

    Two more weeks go by and another video or evidence comes up, then "oh ok, but now there's evidence of those guys, i'm pretty sure they will be detained and trialed, justice and legality and democracy!"

    7 years go by and the same thing keeps happening all along, then they still go about it like "from 3 million people only 14,000 died that way, it just shows that it wasn't a planned event and every country/society has mentally ill people, and besides, all armies and countries in the world also do bad stuff"

    2 more years go by and "There was no reason that Russia would invade Ukraine, this was unprovoked!"

    Stupid is stupid

    And this is about normal, street level people, not soldiers. But these regular non combatant people are the ones pushing things forward with their acceptance and blindness, because they are the ones actually giving the support and money the governments use to continue this war

    Just look at the idiocity of "Ukrainian people are willing to spend 2/3 years in darkness and cold if that will get Ukraine into the EU". And a day after the EU accepts Ukraine all the roads and buildings and dumpsters will immediately clean up, paint themselves and become pretty and modern (westernized modern)

    That's a foolish and ignorant society, and that's what is actually happening

    Also remember that news guy in the EU that said something like "These are not people in the middle east, these are people who could be your neighbor" or something on those lines, when talking about the Ukrainian refuges

    That guy is the kind that needs a thousand slaps. And not only to bring some common sense but more like to ensure he will shut up forever and only remembers how to eat crayons then after, because his words caused more damage than a bullet could to any single person. The perception of what is considered a person or neighbor who needs to be helped vs which ones are not worth to help, he helped form that in one of the worst possible ways

    Things like this, just show the hypocrites working hard to form their perfect world view. Who's worthy of good treatment and who is not?
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/2022/03...dards-refugees
    Quote Acting quickly and decisively, European governments have opened borders and European citizens have opened their homes in an unprecedented showing of solidarity towards refugees. But, with all eyes on Ukraine, the Greek coastguard continues to illegally push back asylum-seekers crossing from Turkey while Spanish police forcefully repel those who dare to jump the fence in Melilla.

    The painful contrast exposes the double standards in the EU’s approach to refugees. With Europe’s grim history of restrictive asylum policies, it is wishful thinking that the warm welcome to Ukrainians will extend to all asylum-seekers. The EU solidarity to displaced Ukrainians illustrates the deeply politicized – and often discriminatory – nature of providing refugee protection.
    As far as human rights, it remains the same as always was.

    Western Ukrainian? Go ahead and here's your hotel room and free food
    Eastern Ukrainian? Stop right there! go back to Russia you dirty genes person
    Middle eastern? Bring up the hose with cold water filled with chemicals that will make them very ill, and shoot them if they try to go through
    Afrikans? Shoot them at first sight, Or grab them, put them in ship containers and send them back, they don't have any feelings so it doesn't matter

    'The land is unchanged'
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    Most of the people killed in Donbass over the past 9 years were Ukrainians, and most of them civilians, this is no secret. Russian casualties are just very few among the 20+ thousands killed by now

    What do you call it when a government kills their own population openly and brutally?
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)

    Zelenskaya reveals number of Ukrainians ready to live without light, but with EU prospect

    It is reported that 90% of Ukrainians said they were ready to live with electricity shortages for two to three years if they could see the prospect of joining the European Union

    KIEV, November 25. /TASS/. Over 90% of Ukrainians are ready to live without electricity and heat for years if they see the prospect of EU membership, Elena Zelenskaya, the wife of the Ukrainian president, said.

    She cited a a recent poll where 90% of Ukrainians said they were ready to live with electricity shortages for two to three years if they could see the prospect of joining the European Union. "You know, it is easy to run a marathon when you know how many kilometres there are," she told the BBC, according to the excerpts of her upcoming interview published on Friday. Zelenskaya did not specify who conducted the survey or how many people took part in it.
    Here's a Telegram channel update concerning this:

    Source: https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/33914



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    Remember when Zelensky's wife said that more than 90% of Ukrainians are willing to spend 2-3 years without electricity or heating just so they could join the EU according to some made up study?

    Well...

    People's Deputy Oleksandr Dubinsky arranged a survey of his own on the topic of 'what are the people of Ukraine ready to do in order to join the European Union'. He asked the question: "How long are you willing to live without heat and light, but for the sake of the prospect of EU membership?"
    -14% answered that they are ready to endure days,
    -8% - are ready to endure months,
    -4% - a year.
    -The most interesting thing is that 64% are not ready for such sacrifices at all.

    The results upset Kiev, because it does not fit at all into the line promoted by the Office of the President presented by a made up study.

    The first lady of Ukraine was hated after a bold statement in her BBC interview and Dubinsky, in accordance with the "European values" had to delete the poll.
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)

    Zelenskaya reveals number of Ukrainians ready to live without light, but with EU prospect

    It is reported that 90% of Ukrainians said they were ready to live with electricity shortages for two to three years if they could see the prospect of joining the European Union

    KIEV, November 25. /TASS/. Over 90% of Ukrainians are ready to live without electricity and heat for years if they see the prospect of EU membership, Elena Zelenskaya, the wife of the Ukrainian president, said.

    She cited a a recent poll where 90% of Ukrainians said they were ready to live with electricity shortages for two to three years if they could see the prospect of joining the European Union. "You know, it is easy to run a marathon when you know how many kilometres there are," she told the BBC, according to the excerpts of her upcoming interview published on Friday. Zelenskaya did not specify who conducted the survey or how many people took part in it.
    Here's a Telegram channel update concerning this:

    Source: https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/33914



    Text:
    Remember when Zelensky's wife said that more than 90% of Ukrainians are willing to spend 2-3 years without electricity or heating just so they could join the EU according to some made up study?

    Well...

    People's Deputy Oleksandr Dubinsky arranged a survey of his own on the topic of 'what are the people of Ukraine ready to do in order to join the European Union'. He asked the question: "How long are you willing to live without heat and light, but for the sake of the prospect of EU membership?"
    -14% answered that they are ready to endure days,
    -8% - are ready to endure months,
    -4% - a year.
    -The most interesting thing is that 64% are not ready for such sacrifices at all.

    The results upset Kiev, because it does not fit at all into the line promoted by the Office of the President presented by a made up study.

    The first lady of Ukraine was hated after a bold statement in her BBC interview and Dubinsky, in accordance with the "European values" had to delete the poll.
    Add this to the evidence report...

    The internet goes out in Kiev and then...


    Imagine 2/3 years of that... lmao

    I could very coldly make fun of this, and bully them in lots of ways, there's so much material there...

    - Hello darkness my old friend...
    - Slava Darkiny
    - That was a dark spiritual moment for the Ukrainians
    - When your mom cuts the lights and the internet because you don't have a job...
    - Everything will be fine as long as I can see the lig......
    - When your gf was about to post the first timed nakd pic and power goes out for an entire day
    - etc....

    ~~

    + You're a monster Malisa
    - I know....



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    On a serious note, this comment on the lights out tweet video is more than needed to display/represent the desperation and suffering most people feel out there, while the politicians play pretend to be 'leaders'

    Quote it's like looking into Hell - the howls of demons
    I remember posting some time ago on this same thread, about how we had to sleep back to back and under a single shirt so that our bare skins would touch and keep the heat among us, because otherwise we would freeze to death through the night out there in the fields. So we would remove our shirts, then back to back to ensure all body heat was shared and then put on bigger shirt to cover both persons and then above that all other stuff i we could manage an if there was one available do this inside a sleeping bag, otherwise you die, so yes, no complaining about it, it's the only option

    It is no joke, that's very real and the suffering is beyond what i wish most people to go through

    **

    The people in Donbass, in eastern Ukraine (Luhanks, Donetsk etc) lived through this every single winter for the past 9 years, because the Ukrainan army made sure to destroy all means of heating and power for those regions non stop for years and years

    So yeah, this is cruel, but if you are going to assume that 'Russia bad' because of it, then first ensure to say 'Ukrainian has done this to the Donbass civilians for almost a full decade and with no remorse, they even laughed at them and made memes out of how western ukrainians were at the beach while eastern ukrainians in Donbass froze to death every night)

    So yeah, there's no good or bad guy here, there's only the results of war
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    “We don’t blame the whole Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are our friends, they are our relatives. They’ve been struck by evil, and it’s not their fault, ordinary people are not to blame for this. We will liberate them from fascism, we’ll show them brotherhood, and we’ll make friends. This is a good opportunity for us to defeat evil. God has honored us with this right to fight evil.”
    - "Kabar"
    "These defenders, many living in dank trench conditions didn’t choose war, they responded to it, to protect their loved ones and their future. In spite of more than eight years of being warred upon by Ukraine, they retain their humanity."
    - Eva Bartlett

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    Maligned in Western Media, Donbass Forces are Defending their Future from Ukrainian Shelling and Fascism

    By Eva Bartlett - November 19, 2022

    Source: Covert Action Magazine



    America is widely understood to be a key instigator behind conflict in Ukraine that has pitted brother against brother

    Smeared, stigmatized, and lied about in Western media propaganda, the mostly Russian-speaking people of the Donbass region were being slaughtered by the thousands in a brutal war of “ethnic cleansing” launched against them by the neo-Nazi regime in Kyiv, which the U.S. installed after the CIA overthrew Ukraine’s legally elected president in a 2014 coup.

    Although the Donbass people had been pleading for Russian military aid to defend them against the increasingly murderous military assaults by the Ukraine government forces, which killed more than 14,000 of their people, Russian President Vladimir Putin declined to intervene. Instead, he tried to broker a peace agreement between the warring parties.

    But the U.S. and Britain secretly colluded to sabotage peace negotiations, persuading president Zelenksy to ignore the Minsk III peace agreement that the Ukraine government had previously signed, and which had been countersigned by Russia, France and Germany.

    Realizing that the U.S. and its NATO allies would never permit peace negotiations to succeed, Putin finally sent troops into Ukraine on February 24. Russian troops went in to support and reinforce the outnumbered and outgunned Donbass Special Forces who had been defending their land against attacks by the Kyiv government for nearly eight years.

    Voices From the Frontlines of Former Eastern Ukraine Republics

    In the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) in October, I went to a frontline outpost 70 meters from Ukrainian forces in Avdeevka (north and west of Donetsk), according to the Donbas commanders I spoke with there.

    To reach that position, I went with two other journalists to a meeting point with two commanders of Pyatnashka—volunteer fighters, including Abkhazi, Slovak, Russian, Ossetian and other nationalities, including locals from Donbas.

    From there, they drove us to a point as far as they could drive before walking the rest of the way, several minutes through brush and trenches, eventually coming to their sandbagged wood and cement fortified outpost.

    It has changed hands over the years, Ukrainian forces sometimes occupying it, Donbas forces now controlling it.

    One soldier, a unit commander who goes by the call sign “Vydra” (Otter), was formerly a miner from the DPR who had been living in Russia with his family. In 2014, he returned to the Donbas to defend his mother and relatives still there. He spoke of the outpost.

    “We dug and built this with our hands. Several times over the years, the Ukrainians have taken these positions. We pushed them back, they stormed us…Well, we have been fighting each other for eight years.”

    There, artillery fire is the biggest danger they face. “You can hide from a sniper, but not from artillery, and they’re using large caliber.”

    His living quarters is a dank, cramped, room with a tiny improvised bed, with another small room and bed for others at the outpost.

    A sign reads: “If shelling occurs, go to the shelter.” The kind of sign you see all over Donetsk and cities of the Donbas, due to Ukraine’s incessant shelling of civilian, residential areas. In a frontline outpost where incoming artillery is the norm, the sign is slightly absurd, clearly a joke.

    An Orthodox icon sits atop the sign. Ukrainian nationalists hang and spray Nazi graffiti and slogans of death; these fighters revere their faith.

    A poster, with the DPR flag, reads: “We have never known defeat, and it’s clear that this has been decided from above. Donbas has never been forced to its knees, and no one will ever be allowed to.”

    The only things decorating the space are tins of tuna and canned meat, instant noodles, and washing powder. Their existence is bare minimum, nothing glamorous about it; they volunteer because, as they told me, this is their land and they will protect it.

    Perhaps surprising to some, when Vydra was asked whether he hates Ukrainians, he replied emphatically no, he has friends and relatives in Ukraine.

    “We have no hatred for Ukraine. We hate those nationalists who came to power. But ordinary Ukrainians? Why? Many of us speak Ukrainian. We understand them, they understand us. Many of them speak Russian.

    I’ve been involved in sports a lot of time, wrestling. So, I’ve got a lot of friends in Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Kirovograd, Odessa, Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk, Transcarpathia.

    I have relatives in western Ukraine, and we still communicate. Yes, they say one thing on the street, but when we talk to each other, they say, ‘Well, you have to, because the SBU is listening.’

    Ukraine shouts about democracy, then puts people in handcuffs for no reason. My aunt got in trouble because they found my photo on her Skype.

    And I’m on the Myrotvorets [kill list] website.” [As is the author, see this article.]

    He spoke of Ukraine’s shelling from 2014, when the people of the Donbass were unarmed and not expecting to be bombed by their own country.

    “When the artillery hit the city of Yenakievo, east of Gorlovka, we were defenseless. We went with hunting rifles and torches to fight them. Most of the weapons we had later were captured from them. We had to go to the battlefield without weapons in order to get the weapons.”

    When asked if he was concerned that Ukrainian forces might take Donetsk he replied no, of course not, they didn’t succeed in 2014, they won’t now.

    When asked whether he had a message for soldiers of the Ukrainian army, Vydra replied without hesitating, “Go home! We’ve been saying that since 2014: Go home. Unequivocally, we don’t want them here, but we don’t want to kill them. I’m not speaking about nationalists, I’m speaking about Ukrainian soldiers, who are drafted or forcefully employed in the Ukrainian army. Guys, go home, either surrender or go. This is our land. We’re not leaving, we’re not going anywhere.”

    I asked how he felt to be treated and described as sub-human, to be called dehumanizing names, a part of the Ukrainian nationalists’ brainwashing propaganda. As I wrote previously:

    “Ukrainian nationalists openly declare they view Russians as sub-human. School books teach this warped ideology. Videos show the extent of this mentality: Teaching children not only to also hate Russians and see them as not humans, but also brainwashing them to believe killing Donbas residents is acceptable. The Ukrainian government itself funds neo-Nazi-run indoctrination camps for youths.”

    “It’s offensive,” Vydra said, “We are saddened: There are sick people. We need to heal them, slowly.”

    I asked whether he thought friendship between Ukrainians and Russians would be possible.

    “It will take years for any friendship. Take Chechnya, one region of Russia, it was at war. But slowly, slowly…We must all live together. We are one people.” Indeed, now Chechen fighters are one of the most effective forces fighting alongside Donbas and Russian soldiers to liberate Donbas areas from Ukrainian forces.

    He opened a zippered trousers pocket and proudly brandished a small plastic sleeve containing children’s drawings, also containing icons of saints and Christ, and prayers…

    “This is very personal, it’s like my guardian angel. I put it in plastic, I don’t even keep my ID in plastic. I’ve been carrying this one in my pocket since February. I’ve been in all sorts of hot spots. A child drew this, we receive letters from children. It’s very nice to look at them when it’s hard and we are under fire.”

    He read one letter:

    “We are waiting for you. Thank you for risking your lives to defend Donbas. Yulia and Ira.”

    “I don’t even know who are Yulia and Ira,” he said smiling.

    Showing the icons, he said, “This is Saint Ushakov, our great commander. This is Jesus Christ, our Heavenly Protector. This Abkhazi icon was given to me by the guys. This is a prayer book. And here is a prayer,” he said of one page prayer.

    “These words are to support when times are very hard. When there is heavy shelling, it can go on for hours. So, while you’re sitting there, you can read this.

    Especially for the younger guys, 22, 23 years old, just finished college. This is new to them.”

    Commanders Speak of Geopolitical Reasons for Ukraine’s War

    Outside, sitting in front of an Orthodox banner and a collection of collected munitions—including Western ones—two platoon commanders, “Kabar” and “Kamaz,” spoke of the bigger geopolitical picture. [See video]



    “America is running the show here,” Kabar said. “It builds foreign policy on the basis of how its domestic policy is built, which is through conflicts with external countries. They are accustomed to proving their power to their people through terrorism around the world, inciting fires in Syria, in the east. They played the card of radical Islam there.

    And now they are playing the card of fascism. They do not see themselves on the other side of good. They need wars, blood, cruelty, and they signed Europe up for this.

    However, they’ve missed one point: Russia, since the days of the Soviet Union, has never retreated in large scale wars. They took Europe and pushed it to slaughter Russia, and they put Russia in such a position that it must secure its national interests. Europe needs to understand this, to pay attention to history, to stop being led by the United States.”

    When asked about his feeling regarding Ukrainians, “Kabar” replied similarly to Vydra.

    “We don’t blame the whole Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are our friends, they are our relatives. They’ve been struck by evil, and it’s not their fault, ordinary people are not to blame for this. We will liberate them from fascism, we’ll show them brotherhood, and we’ll make friends.

    This is a good opportunity for us to defeat evil. God has honored us with this right to fight evil.”

    Kamaz, when asked why he is fighting, replied that this is his homeland, he was born here, and that he has a son who he doesn’t want to inherit Ukraine’s war on the Donbas.

    “I myself am Greek by nationality. Ukrainians are Slavs, they are our brothers, their grandfathers fought together shoulder to shoulder with our grandfathers against Nazism and fascism. We are here to finish it, so that our children live a normal happy life. We are fighting for the future.”

    He spoke of America’s continuous need for war.

    “We’ve seen it in Syria and Yugoslavia, where they destroyed everything and then set everything up their own way, so the people must submit, almost like slaves.”

    I asked whether he thought peace between Ukraine and Russia is possible.

    “Yes, possibly, why not? But at the moment, the President of Ukraine said there will be no negotiations.

    Negotiations are possible, but I think not with this president. When he comes to his senses, he will not be able to negotiate, because he took a lot of money.”

    Before leaving the outpost, we chatted a bit with the commanders. A puppy sought the attention of a young soldier. Another puppy ran around our feet. The outpost commanders and soldiers take care of the dogs. Their presence added a somewhat surreal touch to the scene: an outpost which is routinely shelled, where life can cease to exist at any moment, and these happy, well-cared for puppies running around like dogs anywhere.

    Western Media Inverted Reality, Lauding Nazis and Demonizing Defenders

    While many in the West think that this conflict started in February 2022, those following events since 2014 are aware that, following the Maidan coup and Odessa massacre, and the rise of fascism in Ukraine against the Ukrainian people, the Donbas republics wanted to distance themselves from Ukraine’s Nazis and fascism.

    The sacrifices which the people of the Donbas republics have endured, particularly those fighting to protect their families and loved ones, have been and continue to be immense.

    Just as the heroes of the Syrian Arab Army were maligned, so too have Donbas forces have been maligned by Western media, though both are defending their homelands from terrorist forces trained and funded by the West. Terrorists given the freedom to commit endless atrocities against Donbas civilians.

    These defenders, many living in dank trench conditions didn’t choose war, they responded to it, to protect their loved ones and their future. In spite of more than eight years of being warred upon by Ukraine, they retain their humanity.

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    Related video linked in the article:

    Oleg Yasinsky interviews Vasily Prozorov
    Channel: Nothing Is Forgotten
    Duration: 01:04:58

    Description:
    First week of November, Vasily talked with Oleg Yasinsky. Oleg is a well-known international journalist, translator, specialist in Latin America. I bring to your attention the conversation with him, published on Oleg's YouTube channel and subtitled into English by @NoOneIsForgotten .

    For quick reference, below is the timing:

    00:00 Introduction
    02:54 History of the Maidan?
    06:00 When did it become clear to you what the Maidan is leading to?
    11:02 Were there people in the SBU who understood that the Ukrainian state would be used against the interests of their own people?
    12:45 What are the mechanisms of subordination of the Ukrainian government to the West and what are the examples of this?
    17:40 Why are the UK and MI6 so active on the territory of Ukraine?
    20:45 When did the current armed conflict become irreversible? Could it have been avoided?
    26:30 NATO biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine. What is known about this for certain?
    29:45 What do you think about Julian Assange?
    34:50 What kind of future for humanity do you dream of?
    37:40 Can the revelations of the press prevent state crimes?
    42:00 It has been repeatedly said about the permissibility of the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine. What do you think about it?
    44:40 How do you see the independent press of the future?
    56:40 What would you say to your former colleagues who are now from the Ukrainian side?
    59:50 What are your human impressions of the Ukrainian prisoners?


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    Source: Klymenko Time

    While ordinary Ukrainian men do not have the opportunity to go abroad even to work or for treatment, since all those liable for military service at the age of 18 to 60 were banned from leaving for the entire period of martial law, Ukrainian VIP refugees are quietly resting in Monaco, Monte Carlo and Nice . Relevant investigation опубликовала "Ukrainian Truth".

    Journalists recorded:

    -$65M 70m Yacht Named "Z" Constantine Zhevago (48 years old) was recorded off the coast of Monaco, and then she moved to the Italian island of Sardinia. Zhevago explained that the name is the first letter of the Latin spelling of his last name and has nothing to do with the Russian “special operation”. According to journalists, he has not entered Ukraine since September 2019, when an investigation was launched against him with suspicion of embezzling UAH 2,5 billion. depositors of his bank Finance and Credit.

    -The family of the people's deputy "OPZZH" Grigory Surkis rents an apartment in a five-star hotel in Monte Carlo. After the start of the war, according to journalists, the Surkis left the country without declaring the cash they took out of the country - more than $ 17,5 million. According to journalists, the annual rent of apartments costs about 2 million euros. Also, the Surkis brothers are regularly seen in the local most famous casino, which is visited by the richest people. Both Surkis brothers are over 60 years old and are not subject to mobilization.

    -Dnepropetrovsk businessman Vadim Ermolaev (54 years old - that is, subject to mobilization in the conditions of war), who is on the 45th place in the list of the richest people in Ukraine, also lives in Monte Carlo.

    -People's deputy from the Opposition Platform for Life and a developer live in Nice Vadim Stolar (40 years). The deputy left Ukraine a few days before the start of a full-scale invasion and has not returned since then, although after the ban on the Opposition Platform for Life, a deputy group “Restoration of Ukraine” was formed under him in the parliament.

    -On the Cote d'Azur in the villa of Leopold II, which is called the most expensive on the planet, lives the richest Ukrainian Rinat Akhmetov (55 years old), who bought the building in 2019 for more than 200 million euros.

    -In the whole region, Ukrainian politicians and businessmen have turned the French resort of Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat into the “French Koncha-Zaspa”: there are about 10 estates where cars with Ukrainian license plates enter. For example, a people's deputy from the Opposition Platform for Life lives there Igor Abramovich (37 years old, left a few days before the war), former and. about. Head of the Department for the Protection of the Economy of the National Police Sergei Vyazmikin and more

    -According to journalists, there is also a house in Nice Victor Pinchuk (61 years old), one of the richest Ukrainians, as well as an oligarch Dmitry Firtash (57 years old), deputy Vladimir Skorobagach (53 years old), brother of an entrepreneur and deputy Vitaly Khomutynnik (46 years old) Yuri.
    There is also a deputy's villa on Cap Ferrat Sergei Levochkin (50 years old), etc.

    The journalists noted that all these people managed to track down this only in a few days of observation, and it is likely that there are many more famous Ukrainians living there who could not be seen these days.

    According to unofficial information, many top officials and businessmen who remained in Ukraine, who knew about the impending invasion, also took their families abroad before the war.

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    The Ukrainska Pravda video with English subtitles here:



    Description (premiered August 16th 2022)
    Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, Ukrainska Pravda has received several tip-offs that an obscene number of Ukrainian VIP refugees is concentrated in Monaco, Monte Carlo and Nice.

    We heard various names and various addresses. But we decided that it’s better to see once than to hear a hundred times. We stopped off at the Cote d’Azur for a few days on our way to Turkey, where we tracked down the yachts of Russian oligarchs.

    What we saw is in stark contrast to what Ukraine and Ukrainians have been experiencing for six months now.

    The Cote d’Azur is historically a favourite holiday destination for the world’s elites. That is why it is difficult to understand why Ukrainian millionaires and billionaires, who have been weakening the country for decades now, would decide to “sit out” the war right there for all the world to see. A world which is now helping to make Ukraine stronger.

    It seems anti-advertising can’t get any worse than Bentleys and Maybachs - the latest models - with Ukrainian licence plates.

    Writer and presenter: Mykhailo Tkach
    Cameraman: Yaroslav Bondarenko
    Director: Andrii Ihnatenko
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