The reincarnation error

[TrumanCash]

Yes, extensive past life work can answer a lot of questions, not only for oneself but for others as well.

In my case, being abducted by certain ET groups for the past twelve millennia and working with another abductee, "Jack Wylie", we discovered the modus operandi of an ET group, often called the "Anunnaki", that created the Earth-based insidious mind control operation by creating religions and secret societies. I covered this phenomenon extensively in THE EYE OF RA which documents my independent research and exposes the Earth matrix and four different, but colluding, ET groups.

Another benefit is that I found out who I am. I asked that question of myself many times when I was a child. And I finally got that answer many years later in past life regressions.

In another regression a fencing scar actually appeared physically on my face. This taught me that we live in a holographic universe.

Also, it is of benefit to abductees in general as it answers their questions (which they get directly and not from channeled entities, lol) and helps to alleviate the trauma thereto. There have been many other benefits but I don't want to belabor the point.

[JackMcThorn]

If past lives [knowledge and experience], are important - then why is recall rare? Regression therapy sounds like hypnosis which does not have an ideal reputation in its own right. If these past lives are so important, why wouldn't the experience and knowledge transfer to the current life? Would it not be extremely useful? [Joined Trill of Star Trek lore: 'Dax has been joined with four men and five women, living for more than three hundred years in total.' --with all of the experience and knowledge of those 3oo years...]

We can remember our youth and vigour. Some smarts and some common sense, but not a lick wise in the long run. Everyone remembers doing dumb things in their youth.

It also seems harsh that one would experience 'punishment' in a past or future life. Some people do make it out of famine or war-torn areas. The entire life is not comprised of suffering; although 2o years of war or famine might seem like an eternity.

I recall in my youth in the 198os that 'idea' of a 'millionaire'. One who has achieved one million dollars as a measure of success. A savings account interest rate at that time was 5%. Advice given to the youth if they could make and save one cool million was a return of interest around $5o K per year. If anyone was a billionaire back then it was probably royalty and they do not advertise. No one back then really heard of billionaires and it is really senseless how much money some people make, like lets say a value of 2oo million. This was unheard of back then. In the 197os american baseball players made $1oo,ooo per year. This was a topic of contention among people and when they were making a million some people were losing their minds. I heard the rantings of an old man about million dollar Red Sox pitchers on the Boston T in the 198os on a trip back to the car park from the city.

I recall from history class how hard it was to acquire books in the past. Common people were not typically well-read [or well educated. There are stories in the 2oth century of people dropping out of grade school to be able to work.] They might have been skilled but not well educated and possible illiterate [in america, of all places].

Based on some of my thinking, I am not sure I have a past life but I think not. I have had some troubles in this life but they were not debilitating. The most important part of my thinking is that I do not have any regrets. If your next life took you to a place of famine or is war-torn, you wouldn't even really think or know you were being punished.

I think the secret to life is simple.

[Docim369]

I agree with you, Bill. Another common "error" I see about people wanting to stop the reincarnation cycles is that they want to "exit it" which could be kind of misconception bypass. Let us look at how one of the finest yogis, Swami Vivekananda thought about this: "We are trapped in a machine. Don't try to escape it, instead, learn how to use it and it will let you go".
Just a thought for everyone

[DNA]

The Tibetan book of the dead


I'm not a fan of this line of thinking but I'm surprised you folks who believe along these lines don't use the absolute best source available in terms of a how to manual on escaping the reincarnation cycle.

If anyone is taking seriously the idea of exiting the reincarnation process this is literally a "how to".
This first video is a good primer.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8KbXd_ubz6o

This second one is the actual book.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C2CogVMp5_E

[Merkaba360]

Posted by Docim369 (here)
I agree with you, Bill. Another common "error" I see about people wanting to stop the reincarnation cycles is that they want to "exit it" which could be kind of misconception bypass. Let us look at how one of the finest yogis, Swami Vivekananda thought about this: "We are trapped in a machine. Don't try to escape it, instead, learn how to use it and it will let you go".
Just a thought for everyone

Don Juan (Castaneda) said something similar. Something like, "We stalk/hunt ourselves to learn and be aware of how the habitual machine/system/ego functions. And just like a machine, if one dismantles some of the parts, it can no longer function. At least, the machine that limits and boxes in our perception within illusions and such. I guess, we could say dismantling the machine is a kind of escaping the perceptual limitations without going anywhere. Just make sure not to be misled by wording.

[Merkaba360]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
If past lives [knowledge and experience], are important - then why is recall rare? Regression therapy sounds like hypnosis which does not have an ideal reputation in its own right. If these past lives are so important, why wouldn't the experience and knowledge transfer to the current life? Would it not be extremely useful? [Joined Trill of Star Trek lore: 'Dax has been joined with four men and five women, living for more than three hundred years in total.' --with all of the experience and knowledge of those 3oo years...]

We can remember our youth and vigour. Some smarts and some common sense, but not a lick wise in the long run. Everyone remembers doing dumb things in their youth.

It also seems harsh that one would experience 'punishment' in a past or future life. Some people do make it out of famine or war-torn areas. The entire life is not comprised of suffering; although 2o years of war or famine might seem like an eternity.

I recall in my youth in the 198os that 'idea' of a 'millionaire'. One who has achieved one million dollars as a measure of success. A savings account interest rate at that time was 5%. Advice given to the youth if they could make and save one cool million was a return of interest around $5o K per year. If anyone was a billionaire back then it was probably royalty and they do not advertise. No one back then really heard of billionaires and it is really senseless how much money some people make, like lets say a value of 2oo million. This was unheard of back then. In the 197os american baseball players made $1oo,ooo per year. This was a topic of contention among people and when they were making a million some people were losing their minds. I heard the rantings of an old man about million dollar Red Sox pitchers on the Boston T in the 198os on a trip back to the car park from the city.

I recall from history class how hard it was to acquire books in the past. Common people were not typically well-read [or well educated. There are stories in the 2oth century of people dropping out of grade school to be able to work.] They might have been skilled but not well educated and possible illiterate [in america, of all places].

Based on some of my thinking, I am not sure I have a past life but I think not. I have had some troubles in this life but they were not debilitating. The most important part of my thinking is that I do not have any regrets. If your next life took you to a place of famine or is war-torn, you wouldn't even really think or know you were being punished.

I think the secret to life is simple.

An undeveloped person would be brought down by memories or negative/painful/horrific past lives. So, its very useful for advanced beings who understand its all an illusion so don't be attached and such.

Another main reason is that it would be a huge distraction for most people trying to focus on this lives lessons or objectives. We need ignorance and tunnel vision to learn many things that would be impossible with expanded awareness. Each life offers a different kind of tunnel to experience a unique perspective of awareness and unawareness. Knowing a bit of 1 or 2 pasts lives might be more common. But knowing great detail of many many past lives just expands awareness so much, it changes everything massively.

For these reasons, I think we gain some of the past life knowledge and experience subconsciously and partially. Like a past-life alcoholic, that just knows he doesn't want anything to do with alcohol without the memory of the terrible consequences paid in a previous life.

Calling certain experiences "punishment" for past deeds is misleading. It seems we have to achieve balance and kind of experience everything. Over a very long period of time, that seems to require a lot of things that really suck. I think it depends how fast we want to evolve. So, perhaps we can avoid experiencing many extreme horrors if taking the slow route. We just don't learn without direct experience. How many people on earth now truly feel deep compassion for the hell of being a serial killer or similar. The horrible childhood trauma and what not. Can we really integrate those atrocities without being the perpetrator a time or 2?

I personally struggle to accept the things going on with satanic ritual abuse or whatever u want to call it. Or maybe they arent reintegrated back into the ALL, that we have to forgive them. Maybe the ALL creator rejects them as not being itself and does not save them, but lets them experience the long difficult path of erasure and disintegration into the abyss, according to 200IQ Chris Langan.

It also seems that what we think are horrors are not such a big deal from a higher level. Like its relatively quite brief and we can escape suffering or our limited perceptions if we really want to. For example, one of the craziest fearless guys i ever met had half of his body burned as a child. He said that it was so painful that he learned how to shut off the pain. Which is why he was so fearless of danger in his 30s when i met him.

Also, apparently there are no terrible experiences against our will anyways. But I don't know, seems we get lost in the labyrinth and things can go awry and get very dark. So, how much are we in control or to blame? Like Astral travelers saying u have to be careful of attempting to travel to horrible smelling and looking "Hells" as to not get stuck. Its a sticky place and thus can get stuck as that is the nature of a Hell, to entrap. Apparently, its smells so terrible, that alone would make one wonder why anybody would willingly go there. I suppose the first time would be curiosity, but just getting a glimpse would send most running, kind of like a mountain climber going into a Volcano or something. lol

Does anyone think there is an ecstasy felt from finally escaping hell that can't be matched thru the nature of relativity. But how long would that afterglow last? So, maybe there are certain souls that want to experience such extremes, similar to the sadistic types that go to McKamey Manor Haunted house for some terrible fun. lol

Some of the questions implied in this post, I'd love to have answers to. I'm confident I know a couple of the answers, but others I just don't know. Anyone else can answer some of these?

[Johnnycomelately]

One of the important facets of reincarnation, the way I see it, is that anyone we (individuals) meet or interact with is someone we have a debt to from past lives (or from non-incarnate times/situations). You could say, and it might be true, that they might owe you more, but I think that a situation or relationship of binding originates from both sides.

If one is willing to give oneself to the goal of wholeness (not “perfection”, because that sounds corny), then this idea can help us fight our ego — ‘swallow our pride’.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Docim369 (here)
I agree with you, Bill. Another common "error" I see about people wanting to stop the reincarnation cycles is that they want to "exit it" which could be kind of misconception bypass. Let us look at how one of the finest yogis, Swami Vivekananda thought about this: "We are trapped in a machine. Don't try to escape it, instead, learn how to use it and it will let you go".
Just a thought for everyone

I absolutely agree. Being human (or being anything anywhere ) is a whole bunch of challenging, adventurous fun. I know — alas! — that I'm unlikely to live forever as Bill Ryan, and I'm already starting to plan out my next lifetime, whenever it may have an opportunity to begin. (Yes, I am, not a joke.)

That alone might make a fascinating new thread, and I've never heard or read anyone, anywhere, talking about this.

[wegge]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Docim369 (here)
I agree with you, Bill. Another common "error" I see about people wanting to stop the reincarnation cycles is that they want to "exit it" which could be kind of misconception bypass. Let us look at how one of the finest yogis, Swami Vivekananda thought about this: "We are trapped in a machine. Don't try to escape it, instead, learn how to use it and it will let you go".
Just a thought for everyone

I absolutely agree. Being human (or being anything anywhere ) is a whole bunch of challenging, adventurous fun. I know — alas! — that I'm unlikely to live forever as Bill Ryan, and I'm already starting to plan out my next lifetime, whenever it may have an opportunity to begin. (Yes, I am, not a joke.)

That alone might make a fascinating new thread, and I've never heard or read anyone, anywhere, talking about this.

very curious about your process, please do start that thread!

On that note, did anyone read "The Red Lion?" It's a novel about a soul's evolution throughout several incarnations (I hoped for more story/detail about the inbetween incarnations existence) with an alchemical theme.

[onawah]

I read somewhere (I don't remember where now) that because Gaia is about to take a big step in evolution into another kind of paradigm, a lot of souls from elsewhere have incarnated here recently just in order to experience that, and they will return to the worlds from which they came rather than remain here.
The purpose being that they want to better understand the process, so that they will fare better when their own worlds follow suit.

That kind of tied into some information from The Michael Teachings which made sense to me, ie that planets also go through cycles of evolution just as individual souls do.
Those levels being (according to Michael) Infant, Baby, Young, Mature, Old and Cosmic.
The theory also being that a planet like Earth which is hosting many life forms will, as it progresses, become host to souls that are best suited to its own stage of development.
Earth is presently host to all levels of development in individual souls, but when it takes its next leap, theoretically, there will be fewer of the less evolved souls.

(I just found a Wikipedia explanation of how The Michael Teachings came about which I found interesting here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Michael_Teachings
There are quite a few sites that feature the Teachings, one is: https://www.michaelteachings.com/
I think they are on a par with the Seth Material, Theosophy & Anthroposophy, & Edgar Cayce's work.)

I have no doubt that souls reincarnate. I have met many souls in this lifetime that I recognized as beings I have known in past lives, most of them members of my Soul Group.
In some cases, I was able to do research and discover who they were in those past lives, and who I was, and something about the kind of relationship we had.
I think I might have had more actual recall if I had not had some early traumas in my life that interfered with my psychic abilities, but I am still quite intuitive, and that certainly helps with that kind of discernment.

I think understanding a bit about our past lives can be helpful in understanding why our present life is unfolding in the way it is.
For example, in my last life, I was a member of the Temperance movement in England.
In this life, I was struck and nearly killed by a hit and run drunk driver when I was 24.
That lesson cost me dearly, but it certainly brought home to me the importance of compassion.
( I posted about that experience here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...l=1#post321587)

I don't think I had any kind of personal karmic relationship with the driver, but that it was my soul's decision to have that experience in this lifetime in order to balance my own karma with souls who are suffering from alcoholism.
(My father was also an alcoholic, so I formed a similar prejudice against that addiction growing up. )
And that last lifetime was a lifetime of privilege, while my choice for this life was to be born into what passes for relative poverty in the US.
A decision which I think was also to help me have more compassion for those less fortunate.

I think we are our own judges and juries, and it's the values that we form in each lifetime that help to form our pre-birth plan.
And that after death and between lifetimes is when we review our past lives and decide what experiences we want to have in order to balance our karma, and continue in our journey.
It's also possible to get quite lost and begin regressing too, but hopefully there is a stage at which we have progressed beyond that peril and are assured an ascending journey.
But I think that entails the development of a great deal of compassion, not only for others, but for ourselves.
And of course, in the final analysis, we are all ONE, and that must be foremost in our understanding in order to reach that point of assured ascension

Which can all get to be a rather depressing view of Life which entails a lot of suffering, and that's when I turn to Buddhism and the idea that there is a way to escape the reincarnation cycle for good and simply return to the primordial state of pure Consciousness,
I don't think that would be boring at all once we arrive at the stage where we've seen and experienced enough of Maya's illusion, but that also involves developing a great deal of detachment.

My view of the cosmos would probably be described largely as Hindu and Buddhist, in that I think every individual soul is in essence a fragment of Conscious Awareness (as good a term as any), which travels through the illusion of Time as one of the players in Maya's divine dance, the play of Light and Dark, positive and negative, until everything returns to the primordial state of Oneness for a time, and then begins a new cycle.
(Although, since Time itself is an illusion, that is all also happening simultaneously.)
But the Hindu cosmology's idea of Yugas--cycles of Darkness and Light make sense to me, and I think we are beginning to come out of a dark cycle now.
Though the coming 12,000 year solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal is going to be a hell of a kickstart into a lighter one!
But it will also be the means by which a large number of the current population of Earth will no longer be incarnating here.

(I am also a Christian in that I have incarnated as a Christian for many lifetimes, but I think the Bible has been seriously tampered with by the Church, and so much of the wisdom from the Bible has been lost.
Not so much with the original Hindu and Buddhist teachings; but I needed to study them all to arrive at a satisfactory cosmology of my own. )

I like Alan Watts' perspective on Life, and I started a thread recently featuring some of his talks here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1531328

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
I first heard of regressions here at this forum but I was sort of familiar with reincarnation so I have a couple of questions.

It seems that since the 197os; approximately 5o years ago, the world population nearly doubled from 4b to almost 8b people. Are some souls on their first iteration? It seems like most regressions describe a past life on earth, not from somewhere else. If a soul is not on its first iteration, and it is possible it is not from earth, why would so many souls be coming here during these more recent decades [if indeed they are from afar]?

Thank you kindly in advance.

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
What I can’t surmise is why would people reincarnate to suffer and in large groups, as in (to name a few)
the starving people of Africa, India, Yemen, Afghanistan, the suffering of the people of the Gaza Strip, the indigenous peoples in America, Canada, Australia, around the world. Those born in war zones, etc. The women in countries that treat them as lower class, etc, those that are tortured and killed for various reasons including dark religion,
I know there’s supposed to be group karma as in towns, cities etc. but do people keep getting born into these awful situations to
experience,
or to bring attention to their plight
or to sacrifice themselves
or all of the above,
until the rest are able to find solutions with/for them or maybe grow with them?

Does history like war and genocide keep repeating because new/young souls want to experience this?

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Docim369 (here)
I agree with you, Bill. Another common "error" I see about people wanting to stop the reincarnation cycles is that they want to "exit it" which could be kind of misconception bypass. Let us look at how one of the finest yogis, Swami Vivekananda thought about this: "We are trapped in a machine. Don't try to escape it, instead, learn how to use it and it will let you go".
Just a thought for everyone

I absolutely agree. Being human (or being anything anywhere ) is a whole bunch of challenging, adventurous fun. I know — alas! — that I'm unlikely to live forever as Bill Ryan, and I'm already starting to plan out my next lifetime, whenever it may have an opportunity to begin. (Yes, I am, not a joke.)

That alone might make a fascinating new thread, and I've never heard or read anyone, anywhere, talking about this.

I've touched on this subject and my own plans here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1497129

After many Mantis-enforced reincarnations on this planet after being caught, trapped, monitored, tortured and mind controlled by four different ET groups from lifetime to lifetime since 12,416 years ago, I'm ready for a vacation.

I'm planning on leaving this galaxy (at the very least) and hopefully leave this particular universe permanently. Every day I visualize doing this in order to reinforce my intention when body death occurs.

I love the freedom and beingness of being a free being in space. It is really incredible and ineffable! The human body only limits and controls one's beingness and abilities as a spiritual being.

Additionally, our memories are blocked so we cannot easily access all the lessons we've learned from the past. Instead, we wake up in a new body without knowing who we are as spiritual beings and then being programmed with false and misleading religious beliefs that keep us from the truth of who we are and the nature of reality.

Why would anyone want to reincarnate on this planet right now given the insanity and the very real possibility one would be immediately stuck with needles that inject poisons that maim and kill?

[Eagle Eye]

Past life recall doesn't have anything to do with the actual person, but the DNA has the memory of the ancestors and you can recall their memories, when on hypnosis.
According to the Scripture, reincarnation isn't permitted. Maybe there is an exception for those who have died too early, they need a second chance to prove themselves, but that's only my opinion.

[23 : 99] Until, when death comes to one of them, he says, "My Lord, send me back
[23 : 100] That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected.

[lunaflare]

Thank you all for the posts.

I remain in the great Mystery. My mantra; day by day.
Have I enjoyed this life experience?
Challenging is an understatement. The violence and, at times, the despair I feel, are overwhelming.
There have been fleeting moments of joy.

The design of the human body is miraculous. And other creatures that exist here, are amazing! Despite the human tendency to pollute, there are places of majesty and natural beauty.

People often say: in forums, podcasts, interviews, and books, that this is an []exciting[/I] time to be here,
That souls have lined up for this experience on planet earth. Paradigm shifting; a move to unity consciousness.
Sure, I have enjoyed and read many regressions that may attest to this.
And people give predictions with the caveat that there are varying timelines.

It seems truth is merely perspective and ever-shifting.

So here is my query:

Has anyone consciously chosen this experience? And why?
I feel people often just say it when I listen to interviews. There is no further information shared.
Perhaps a fake it till you make it attitude

This is a sincere question as I do ponder as towhy I am here

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends, a handful of recent replies have rather drifted off the topic of this particular thread, and so I've moved them to Michael Newton - Past Life Therapy - Journey Between Lives where I feel they may more properly belong.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
Past life recall doesn't have anything to do with the actual person, but the DNA has the memory of the ancestors and you can recall their memories, when on hypnosis.

Thanks, but this doesn't in any way fit all the very detailed reported personal accounts.

As just one example (and there are countless others), I have vivid recall of many lifetimes in Tibet until I came to the west in 1850. However, I'm completely certain that none of my DNA-lineage ancestors were ever Tibetan.

[Eagle Eye]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
As just one example (and there are countless others), I have vivid recall of many lifetimes in Tibet until I came to the west in 1850. However, I'm completely certain that none of my DNA-lineage ancestors were ever Tibetan.

A vivid recall of another life can be from memory of DNA, or worst by an outside influence like a memory implantation. I know you have much experience in that field, but anyway I go in the same line with the Scriptures.

[TomKat]

Hans Holzer said that you will keep your personality forever -- until you reincarnate. That is true from what I've seen with cats who reincarnate.This contradicts Jane Roberts' (Seth Speaks) oversoul theory of a higher self that spins off various personalities. So our personalitites change with every lifetime. . I've observed my cat slightly changing personality with each incarnsation -- for cats, sex does not change. For some reason, people are more flexible/confused. It's more linear than she posits in her novel, The Adventures of Oversoul Seven.

[rgray222]

Posted by lunaflare (here)

So here is my query:

Has anyone consciously chosen this experience? And why?
I feel people often just say it when I listen to interviews. There is no further information shared.
Perhaps a fake it till you make it attitude

This is a sincere question as I do ponder as towhy I am here

I believe that digging into your past lives is not necessarily a good thing. If you have unfinished business it will find you and begin to sort itself out. Once you become aware of past lives it could influence this life in a way that could easily derail what you are supposed to accomplish in this life.

To answer your question as specifically as I can, I chose this life before I was born. I know this because when I was about 5-6 years old I simply knew what I was supposed to do in this life. It did not seem odd or strange in the slightest. At the time I thought everybody on the planet knew this information. I had no idea whatsoever how I was going to accomplish anything in this current life I just knew that it was going to somehow happen.

As odd as this may sound I have been planning my next life for about 15 years. When I make that statement I am not talking about position, wealth, skin color, or physical looks. I am talking more about what I don't want to happen, I hope that makes sense.

Many people if not most think that the afterlife is some great mystical event and place and while just a bit of that may be true it is pretty much on par with our human life with a few obvious major differences.

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Eagle Eye (here)
Past life recall doesn't have anything to do with the actual person, but the DNA has the memory of the ancestors and you can recall their memories, when on hypnosis.

Thanks, but this doesn't in any way fit all the very detailed reported personal accounts.

As just one example (and there are countless others), I have vivid recall of many lifetimes in Tibet until I came to the west in 1850. However, I'm completely certain that none of my DNA-lineage ancestors were ever Tibetan.

I'm on the same page as you on this particular point, Bill. I have not run across any connection to my current genetic family line in any of my past lives.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding the David Wilcock claims he was Edgar Cayce in his previous life because he looks somewhat like Edgar Cayce. From my past life research this is not generally a cause and effect phenomenon. However, one can indeed incarnate in one's family line, but that does not necessarily happen. In my case I have never seen this happen. But in my case my series of incarnations for the past twelve millennia were determined by Mantis manipulations. In David's case all he has to do is do some regressions to determine who he was in his previous life. I wonder if he has ever done that.

Another phenomenon that I have observed in going way back down the timeline is that I am always who I am, it is always me. I guess one could call this one's core beingness. However, that can be modified when we get hard-wired into each different body through time and also the circumstances of each lifetime can modify our decisions, thoughts and actions in each lifetime.

So it seems to me that one can discover one's core beingness via extensive past life memory recovery--that is, this is my experience.

[lunaflare]

Thanks rgray,

I chose this life before I was born. I know this because when I was about 5-6 years old I simply knew what I was supposed to do in this life.

Obviously, it is not easy to answer with specifics. Such is the nature of not having the communication tools to describe a "knowing". I enjoy listening to people who have experienced NDEs. They often return to this dimension with more enhanced psychic abilities; with an awareness that this is a game/simulation. I have no recall nor mission. I am accepting that I am here. That this is the mission. To the best of my ability, to do no harm; do less harm this time around.
Stellium in the 12 house (using astrology as a possibly erring tool) suggests karmic house-keeping. No, not so glamorous, either.