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    If there is one thing I have learnt from PA & comments made by Bill Ryan over the years is that TPTB always do things that have MULTIPLE beneficial outcomes for themselves... never just the one.

    I don't know if others on here from the UK had noticed, but traditionally when kids go off to University they usually get part time jobs to help them pay for digs (housing/accommodation). I have a few younger relatives at University.

    During COVID there where no part time jobs available for many Uni. students so one of the things suggested was to join the 'Reservist Army' (Territorial Army for us older generation).

    Now due to it being one of the only jobs to do part time during covid... those young student are trained soldiers! Basic training, but still.

    Was that one of the benefits of Covid... to the Elite/ TPTB? To have the younger generation... University students... as trained soldiers.


    Apparently a high ranking officer told those training at a base in Yorkshire (a place where in the same week on site Boris Johnson was having a photo op with a Rocket laucher on his shoulder) that the army are increasing training in preparation to fight Russia in 4 years time.

    These soldiers I know... I'm worried for them.

    How the heck did Mashika cope with what she went through...with the loss of people around her. I haven't even lost anyone, but my friends & family may be going off to fight eventually. I'm so sad for them.
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    Jambo. Thank you. It is not mediocre at all. It goes to the core of the problem: the extent to which we wish to lead lives that are directed by ethical concerns: good and evil.

    (As an aside almost. Thank you for communicating those facts. Maybe facts as these should be communicated to all we know. At the risk of having great surprises when hearing the answers of those we tell.)

    The core problem. What do we owe to our "nation", or rather: to the inhabitants of the state which we are the citizens of. Our lives? Certainly not. I am a citizen of a country whose leaders allowed the hollowing-out of higher education, used my money and goodwill for all kinds of half public half secret military adventures for the sake of Evil (not Good: not to defend the weak and suffering, as chivalry dictates, but to hurt and destroy them, as warlords do), organised internal state terror, allowed my partner and so many other Belgians to be slowly poisoned and killed through HIV, started to allow and organise the killing of the population through mRNA shots, all but bankrupted my little consulting company and bankrupted thousands of companies at the onset of the "Covid crisis", and most of all – during the full timespan of my adult life, did NOTHING to take up the challenge of overpopulation in a serious, wise and ethical way but is doing EVERYTHING now to make the "controlling" measures as destructive as possible. Do I owe this State anything? If they did good things – and they did, because a higher education in the 70s was still of high quality – they have been dwarfed by all their "mistakes" and crimes. The answer: do I owe those leaders anything now? is therefore No. They owe me. Do I owe anything to my fellow citizens? No – beyond educating them. I have tried during my entire professional life. Rare are the people who I have awakened. I have always tried to target the latest generation first. (As I'm doing now. My age works in my favour, because they tend to listen to "the old poet".) Receptivity is there. The generations between me and them: largely "collaborators" – in the strong sense: defenders of the slow "tirannification" of the State at all its stages. Mitläufer, as so many German citizens were called after the Nazis’ defeat. Allowers, in its two meanings.

    Why am I writing this thus? Because the young man and the young woman who almost had to sell their souls are of that young age. Their lives are in front of them and their lives should be their objective. No “loyalty”. No loyalty any more to the killers.

    “Britain” is a special case. Nationalism, duty to the "Nation". The Americans have the same attitude. I have no admiration at all for Kennedy’s phrase “don’t ask what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country”. The golden hero with the blue eyes: "virtue-signalling" in preparation of the sons (of the less fortunate!) being sent to Vietnam.

    I have been reading lately the great English poets of the First World War. Wilfred Owen, and Daniel Jones. One should read and understand them. One should watch, and watch again, and watch again, old movies showing endless rows of women cheering on their husbands and sons (men) doomed for battle. Into the meatgrinder, as we are saying about the poor Ukrainian soldiers. The expression is adequate because meat they just are. All for the “Nation”. The word means both “Born Ones” and “(child)Bearing". (Feminists might give a little thought to women’s complicity with male soldiering.)

    So. What am I saying? That your loved ones should be disloyal for a change. After "their" "country" having been disloyal to them for quite some time. For quite some time even before they were born. In other words, they should save their a...s. They have the time to do so. Estonia is maybe sooner than in four years, but not yesterday.

    And the ones who love them should help them doing precisely that. There has been a lot of talking about "creativity" for the last decennia, about "thinking out of the box". Well, instead of using these qualities for the success of a bunch of shareholders behind companies, or for the perpetration of evil as States are fond of doing, why not use these faculties for saving your own life? Or, supposing they "make it" through the "war against Russia", for saving their souls? I guess we all know a soldier, or relatives, or friends, or acquaintances, of soldiers who "made it", but without a soul, or with their soul shredded. Unjust war (of the warlord’s type) is like serial rape on incarcerated humans.

    So that’s one goal elder people like I myself might have: to help youngsters flee. To get away and start the "new heroic society": kids and all.

    This older generation may not be able to flee itself. Too bad, but one has been able to live in better times for a longer time than the young. There is some natural justice in that.

    Now, Jambo, you will have thought about that for quite some time already. There may be another, difficult hurdle. (Which you have not even hinted at, but which may still be there.) The youngsters we want to save, do not want to be saved. They want to grind meat. They see this as their goal, even after having heard long hours of facts and figures, and talked through all the ethical aspects. “Loyalty“ remains entire.

    It is possible to fight such arguments. But one only starts to fight for one’s own spiritual survival if one has understood that it depends on one’s loyalty to humanity as a whole (all types of bodies, all types of souls, all types of spirits — all ”nations”, all cultures, all languages and civilisations).

    We should try and get that into the heads, hearts, and sexual organs of the most living of the living, but still “hesitant”.
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    "Yes, we're in WW3 now, we just don't know it, and that's the worst possible position you can be in, when you're losing a war and you don't even know you are in it. It's hard to get worse than that" - Trevor Louden, China Watcher and Author


    The Final War - The 100-Year Plot


    The Trailer





    The Whole thing


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/EQJX7nTuI1BV/



    My own note:

    The Epoch Times, who created this, are obsessed with dumping all the world's ills at the feet of the CCP. That is correct up to a point, in my opinion, but doesn't quite nail the big picture.

    The CCP itself was created for this purpose by a higher power. I choose to think of the CCP as a weapon in the hands of the real enemy, NOT the real enemy.
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    If there is one thing I have learnt from PA & comments made by Bill Ryan over the years is that TPTB always do things that have MULTIPLE beneficial outcomes for themselves... never just the one.


    It may, but, this is especially my question towards the UK. *Who* is actually doing really well because of all this?

    I can come up with ways that yes, in America, certain interests have benefitted at least temporarily. But in trying to tribute that rich British imperialist heritage, qui bono?

    I kind of think the country as a whole is going to slip off to some small, unattractive island in the middle of nowhere. Will it really have a way for His Lordship to gloat happily ever after?

    Azov is certainly an Israeli ally, but we can find this has been going on since the 1600s. The British dug their hands fairly deeply into it, but in the long run, is Israel anything other than a concentration camp for the Final Extermination?

    We give them credit: Hitler grossly underestimated the wartime industry of the stalwart Brits and they were able to defend the island, whatever the cost was. And now? From the American view, canon fodder.

    I don't see that some preliminary military training equates to unfailing success of some nefarious entity. So I am curious who their centuries of effort may have paid off to.

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    You know, when in battle, sometimes you may get shot, but the adrenaline of the moment allows you to keep going thinking nothing happened but maybe a small rock hit you, or a very small shrapnel piece did

    In reality, what happened is that a bullet went through your body and out on the back, and you got hit but you did not notice because of just that "adrenaline". It can be a powerful thing for sure

    But you may be dying and you just did not realize yet, then suddenly you hit the ground and don't understand what's happening

    That's were the west is now

    The got hit, they just don't know when and how and where, they are just in the floor trying to figure things out. It's a lamentable thing to observe from far away.

    It also has another name. It, sometimes, gets called "The breathing dead"

    You may feel a "bump" and you may think it is just something but you never, ever, think it may be that a bullet just went through your body and possibly a very big issue is coming out. It never happens to you, it always "happens to someone else" and you figure yourself as the person saving or surviving the entire thing, But no, reality is not that way

    The US is the soldier that got hit and just has not realized yet, but it already happened and it's done. It's just a slow motion of space and thinking before the floor hits the face. The signs of it are only visible and obvious to the people watching from afar


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    Quote Posted by Jambo (here)
    If there is one thing I have learnt from PA & comments made by Bill Ryan over the years is that TPTB always do things that have MULTIPLE beneficial outcomes for themselves... never just the one.


    It may, but, this is especially my question towards the UK. *Who* is actually doing really well because of all this?

    I can come up with ways that yes, in America, certain interests have benefitted at least temporarily. But in trying to tribute that rich British imperialist heritage, qui bono?

    I kind of think the country as a whole is going to slip off to some small, unattractive island in the middle of nowhere. Will it really have a way for His Lordship to gloat happily ever after?

    Azov is certainly an Israeli ally, but we can find this has been going on since the 1600s. The British dug their hands fairly deeply into it, but in the long run, is Israel anything other than a concentration camp for the Final Extermination?

    We give them credit: Hitler grossly underestimated the wartime industry of the stalwart Brits and they were able to defend the island, whatever the cost was. And now? From the American view, canon fodder.

    I don't see that some preliminary military training equates to unfailing success of some nefarious entity. So I am curious who their centuries of effort may have paid off to.
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    Quote Posted by Jambo (here)
    I've wanted to say this many times in the past six months but have avoided it because I believe it's fairly mediocre compared to the amazing information given on this thread by others.

    If there is one thing I have learnt from PA & comments made by Bill Ryan over the years is that TPTB always do things that have MULTIPLE beneficial outcomes for themselves... never just the one.

    I don't know if others on here from the UK had noticed, but traditionally when kids go off to University they usually get part time jobs to help them pay for digs (housing/accommodation). I currently have a few younger relatives at University.

    During COVID there where no part time jobs available for many Uni. students so one of the things suggested was to join the 'Reservist Army' (Territorial Army for us older generation).

    Now due to it being one of the only jobs to do part time during covid... those young family members are now trained soldiers! (Having completed Alpha & Bravo training).

    Was that one of the benefits of Covid... to the Elite/ TPTB? To have the younger generation... University students... as trained soldiers.

    Apparently around 6 months ago an officer told those training at a base in Yorkshire (where Boris Johnson had his photo op with a Rocket laucher on his shoulder) that the army are increasing training in preparation to fight Russia in 4 years time. A few others I know in the Army, mentioned they'll be training in Estonia next year.

    My family & friends... I'm so worried for them all.

    How the heck did Mashika cope with what she went through...with the loss of people around her. I haven't even lost anyone, but my friends & family maybe going off to fight eventually. I'm so sad for them.


    EDIT - Sorry had to clean the post up a bit. Basically I was quite drunk (being Christmas & all), and getting overly emotional.

    When you are a kid, things just "are"


    You don't think much about them, it's your entire world, only getting out of the entire system allows you to understand why or how that happened. But when you were inside, it all fit and made sense.


    They come and kill, we kill them back


    "Peace"


    The concept of peace as the UN, US and allies talk about, means the following:


    "Once Russia and their culture and people are gone, we all get to have peace, because nothing will come to disturb us"



    Go read all the posts and statements they continually distribute across the world and see what those words truly mean


    "Peace" when coming out from them, means total annihilation of whatever is not 'adequate'. It is just the same thing as usual: "either bend the knee, or die"


    But until this "rule of law" which basically means bend the knee is imposed by force, there will be no 'peace'


    We grew to understand this. The west did forget, the people got weakened on purpose so they could not fight against it. Then demonize the ones who didn't forget the original intention and evilness. It's always the same "do as we say or die"

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    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    No “loyalty”. No loyalty any more to the killers.

    “Britain” is a special case. Nationalism, duty to the "Nation". The Americans have the same attitude. I have no admiration at all for Kennedy’s phrase “don’t ask what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country”.

    I was just informed that my neighbor is a Nationalist.

    I did not need this information, since I can prattle off the contents of anyone's thinking process like a tickertape machine, like I could script the rest of their lives and they would believe it was their own original inspiration.

    It is pretty easy, because I am heavily outnumbered by untold legions of them. So you are correct and it is not just an attitude, it is a named belief like the Sixteenth Commandment or something.

    If you learn how an American Bible works, it has been edited into a Zionist indoctrination kit, in large part due to the Scofield Concordance. This evidently is a late-model version of the British opinion on "Gog and Magog". So I have a hard time separating out the killing-ness from the scriptures. I am willing to hold out the benefit of the doubt that the Sermon on the Mount did not have this in mind.

    The attitude and the scriptures have an uncomfortably close relationship.







    Quote I have been reading lately the great English poets of the First World War. Wilfred Owen, and Daniel Jones. One should read and understand them. One should watch, and watch again, and watch again, old movies showing endless rows of women cheering on their husbands and sons (men) doomed for battle. Into the meatgrinder, as we are saying about the poor Ukrainian soldiers.

    This is Mother's Day.

    I don't know how it got turned into a kid's version of "you are my mother".

    The holiday was created to honor those who had lost someone close.


    We have these holidays from the so-called World War One, but when I look at my language, it is hard to tell a difference. Now since the 60s, Britain has been an absolute blast furnace of rock and metal. But also around the same time (1967) came another type of sound, "jazz folk rock". What I am about to say cannot possibly be anything new to the English. Here are some melodic sounds from The Pentangle, who were at least briefly successful. Despite having this nice sound, a lot of their topics are absolutely morbid. And most of them are drawn from British folk music and other traditional sources. Here is the British view of a place called:



    High Germany


    The subject is conscription.

    The historical setting of the ballad is most likely either the War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714) or the Seven Years War (1756-1763).








    Oh Polly love oh Polly the rout is now begun
    And we must march away at the beating of the drum
    Go dress yourself in all your best and go along with me
    I'll take you to the cruel wars in High Germany.


    I fear the treacherous journey bitter cold and burning heat
    Rough roads and stony mountains they will wound my tender feet
    To your kinsmen I might prove untrue if from them I do go
    For maids must bide at their parents' side while the men do face the foe.


    I'll buy for you a horse my love and on it you will ride
    Then all of my contentment will be riding at my side
    We'll stop at every ale house and drink when we are dry
    So quickly on the road my love we'll marry by and by.


    Oh Billy love oh Billy now mind what I do say
    My feet they are so tired I cannot go away
    Besides my dearest Billy I am with child by thee
    Not fitting for the cruel wars in High Germany.


    Oh Polly love oh Polly I love you very well
    There are few in any place my Polly can excel
    And when your babe is born and sits smiling on your knee
    You will think on your Billy that's in High Germany.


    Oh cursed be the cruel wars that ever they began
    For they have pressed my Billy and many a clever man
    For they have pressed my Billy likewise my brothers three
    And sent them to the cruel wars in High Germany.




    Here is one that is an assessment of good or evil in the individual. The tune is first reported in 1616, and is believed to be even older.


    Lyke-Wake Dirge

    "Lyke" is an obsolete word meaning a corpse. It is related to other extant Germanic words such as the German Leiche, the Dutch lijk and the Norwegian lik, all meaning "corpse". It survives in modern English in the expression lychgate, the roofed gate at the entrance to a churchyard, where, in former times, a dead body was placed before burial, and the fictional undead monster type lich. "Lyke-wake" could also be from the Norse influence on the Yorkshire dialect: the contemporary Norwegian and Swedish words for "wake" are still likvake and likvaka respectively (lik and vaka/vake with the same meanings as previously described for "lyke" and "wake").







    The song is written in an old form of the Yorkshire dialect of Northern English. Instead of "night", you hear "neat" in the refrains which are repeated in every couplet:


    This ae nighte, this ae nighte,
    (Refrain —Every nighte and alle,
    Fire and fleet and candle-lighte,
    (Refrain And Christe receive thy saule.

    When thou from hence away art past,
    To Whinny-muir thou com'st at last;

    If ever thou gavest hosen and shoon,
    Sit thee down and put them on;

    If hosen and shoon thou ne'er gav'st nane
    The whinnes sall prick thee to the bare bane;

    From Whinny-muir when thou may'st pass,
    To Brig o' Dread thou com'st at last;

    From Brig o' Dread when thou may'st pass,
    To Purgatory fire thou com'st at last;

    If ever thou gavest meat or drink,
    The fire sall never make thee shrink;

    If meat or drink thou ne'er gav'st nane,
    The fire will burn thee to the bare bane;

    This ae nighte, this ae nighte,
    —Every nighte and alle,
    Fire and fleet and candle-lighte,
    And Christe receive thy saule.


    Yes, we are in some kind of a war for souls scenario. And, I would agree, no matter how old I get, the target age range for my recruiting activities is 18-25.

    Almost the same as all of the Youth Movements, except for different purposes.

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    As a second post to my last, i'm going to describe something brutal. Please forgive, but i do hope this gives some sense to all the stupid people who have their little Ukrainian flags in their social media profiles while not getting what truly has been going on the past 8 or 9 years over Donbass. And this is the last time i will talk about this, because it affects me in more ways than i can say or describe

    When a soldier get hits by a bullet or shrapnel or anything else that came flying at impossible to avoid speeds, and they don't realize they got hit. The following happens

    They very slowly start falling forward, very very slowly sometimes, because first, once they get hit on their head, they get pushed backwards, but the body always falls forward. always. So they go into a very slow motion with their hands still trying to move, they don't get what happened yet, and then sometimes, they just stand there for a bit and then a lot of blood comes out of their nose and ears, and their eyes get swollen and start popping out because their brains are swollen and push their eyes out of the skull

    Then they slowly fall forwards and then the blood comes out of their mouths and noses like someone opened a waterfall, it smells a lot and the air carries it away so everyone around knows that someone just died or is dying

    This is what happens to someone out there in a trench or in the battle field. Regardless of what side they are fighting for

    And you can't tell them "it's alright" because it is not, and they sometimes look at you before their eyes just lose focus. You get to see them die over there. What do you do after? This is why i'm broken and thousands are just like me, people who never got to experience this have told me before idiotic things like "you need to get over it". And that's just a stupid person. No, don't 'get over it'! Do something about it to stop that madness!

    Some of them were 13 or 15 year old, and they did not do dramatic deaths, they just simply fell forward and spilled blood then died, is just a 5 minute lapse then it's over. see?

    Please explain

    This is war. Fight or die

    Who if not us?

    The US? NATO? The UN? They were the enemy! Who do you depend on?

    Reality is not a movie or a stupid clown in the US that thinks he can just rehearse a speech and act in front of the world

    Once you get hit, you die, there's no respawn or second chance. There's no dramatic scene in which they give you a letter and say good bye like heroic "American" soldiers. No, they just spit blood all over the place, then try to breath very hard and then die in a terrible moment of chocking on their on blood plus their brains just giving up. And their hands go up in a slow motion towards their faces sometimes, very slow, for some reason i don't know or care to know. It's brutal

    But the stupid clown get's richer by the day, he and his friends and family do for sure. And no say about the military complex in the US, they are drinking fine wine now they are absolved of all evils and are the "saviors of the world" one more time

    I see that incredible imbecile in the US talking about peace and the clown clapping and kissing his hand as if he was some kind of savior. Stupid imbeciles
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    Quote Posted by Mashika (here)
    The US is the soldier that got hit and just has not realized yet, but it already happened and it's done. It's just a slow motion of space and thinking before the floor hits the face. The signs of it are only visible and obvious to the people watching from afar


    That is better than the way I was saying it, which was about the civilizational gap and identity crisis which most westerners are not even aware of, but that was probably part A. This is part B.


    Injuries are strange because a puncture or a bullet in certain locations is not going to do that much to you. And so of course you "walk out of it". But then one that does not kill you immediately might just be a matter of time. Correspondingly, some of those cases will not be savable by medical attention.

    In these countries, a "struggle to remain relevant" in a Multi-polar order may reach "a struggle to remain".

    What gets me, is that Kissinger, the man who hand-made this machine, said you should have stopped at the 1991 detente. You should not have Neo-conned your way over to Ukraine. It cannot bear this stress test.

    That guy overthrows governments for breakfast, and he advised it reaches a point where you need a different strategy. And here we are.

    This weapons and training thing is some kind of hopeless facade until the Covid disease and its miracle cures implodes, along with the nonsense in that First Son's confession in many gigabytes of messages.

    Another synonym of this is a punch-drunk boxer. He is either easily finished by one shot, or, he is about to fall on his own.

    We are in that free-fall, where emergency treatment might still help, if we knew what it was. We have no one with any experience in manicuring large well-adjusted societies. It is like a ghost story of "Are the Crusades really over?"

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    Never forget

    And who if not us will do the fight?

    That's why all of this is happening

    And it hurts, it hurts terrible bad, i can't describe, but ask any soldier and they will tell you all about it

    "Never forget"

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    Oh, context for all the people who may be new to this and doesn't know

    Back in 2013, there was a movement by Nazi opposition to the official government of Ukraine, this was supported by the US and allies, they took over and killed hundreds of people who tried to fight back (In 2014) Then the Ukrainian government gave up and left the country and positions they held

    Soon after, there were regions of Ukraine who did not accept this coup, the entire Donbass and Novorossiya regions which is basically Luhanks, Donetsk, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaiev etc. Just the ones that are now 'disputed'

    In Odessa, several people were killed and videos posted about it, they were burned inside a building and shot after they tried to escape the fire. This was recorded on video and a lot of current 'politicians' in Ukraine were there and shot at civilians. Their crime was that they did not accept the coup

    Soon after that. The entire Donbass, and the historical Novorossiya regions declared independence from Ukraine, they did not wanted to join Russia. They declared themselves independent Republics

    So soon after, the US imposed coup government declared these regions 'terrorists" and then the US accepted this declaration. Soon after, it was named "Pro-Russian" and then later on "Russian Invaders"

    So, these people who had been there for hundreds of years and could trace their roots back to Imperial Russia even in a lot of cases, suddenly were "invaders" in their own land


    So now we get a situation in which "the invaders have to be sent back home". Which home is that? Russia

    At some point, Ukraine with the help of "the western partners" started a cleansing that got around 14,000 people killed 'officially' by the UN records, but they say 'we don't know who killed them"

    A very big portion of the Ukraine army deserted and became what we now know as "the pro-russian rebels", but this has now completely disappeared from the media because it leads to questions of "who they are then? Are they Russian?" and the answer is no, they are not Russian, they are Ukrainian people trying to free themselves from the Ukrainian Nazi government. Think of it like Taiwan and Hong Kong trying to liberate themselves from China.

    A lot of those 'rebels' were kids, from 12 to 17 year olds, entire battalions were made up of kids, the reason was simple, they had become lost in the war, they became orphans because of the cleansing, and/or they were sent away to the Russian side but instead they joined the revolution to fight back and 'get back home and save their family'. This is ignored and played down by western media. But the UN did record it back then, it's just that now they play around it


    Lots of the current soldiers in Donbass are Ukrainian born, 19 to 25, and they are veterans already, captains and more, because they were there 8/9 years ago already. This is ignored by western media as well as the UN and every country playing into the hands of the western narrative


    Then earlier this year, a regrouping of Ukrainian army was detected around Donbass, around 200,000 soldiers plus thousands of tanks, IFVs and other materiel were observed. They kept claiming Russia wanted to invade "Ukraine" but all the Russian army was around the Donbass and Belaruss borders, none of it was around Ukraine, yet the Ukrainian army shares a big border with Russia and no army was present over those places at all, they concentrated their forces around Luhansk and Donetsk mostly

    Eventually, they started attacking the region, provoking fire back, this was noted by western media but in step lock with the narrative that "Russia is attacking Ukraine". There was never a mention of Donbass actually being composed of several regions of Ukraine and why they wanted to fight back and remove themselves from Ukraine control, because it did not fit the narrative of "Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine"

    Then we got news that at least 200 soldiers were getting killed day by day at the front, the attacks were getting extreme. At this point, the Luhansk and Donetsk regions asked Russia for help. This took a while and things continued to get worse, then finally Russia acknowledged both regions as standalone republics and this opened the way for accepting their request for military help

    Then it was found after inspection that Ukraine had already placed around 200,000 thousand soldier army around Donbass and had a plan to invade and completely obliterate the region, cleansing the people out under a "One nation one people" ideal. This is how the "Russian unprovoked and aggressive invasion" of Ukraine started, in short. the UN said nothing, no one said nothing about the documents the UN had that proved this was not unprovoked, and that there were thousands upon thousands of documents, videos, pictures, statements and bodies that proved there was a major genetic cleansing going on in the Donbass region

    Up to this day, they (The UN and their owners, basically US/UK/France/Germany) still walk and talk around the issue, still working under the false pretense that this all suddenly started in February 2022, ignoring and imposing a fake reality that this is somehow not related to the events the US had planed and worked on since 2013 at least, but more likely, because of previous evidence, since the 90s when the USSR disolved

    More complex than that, but a short summary for people who want to start looking into this

    Also look into who an why some people in the US have links to past Nazi leaders who found refugee in Canada and the US after WW2 and how they influenced this entire thing

    In a very short way: "The Nazis who went to the west built up and infiltrated the western governments and now are trying to get back to Russia and allies because they want to reverse the lose and failure of Germany in WW2, they want to defeat Russia because they now own the west, and Russia is the enemy to defeat, just like it was in WW2"

    Thanks for attending my short but concise talk about what the Ukraine war truly means at the very core

    From here on, it is up to you to figure out the truth, i just provided some points, there's a lot more than this going on. I'm merely pointing out basic facts.

    Tasks:

    - Look at a map and figure out which countries support a never ending war against Russia
    - Look at who lead the coup in Ukraine at first, and what family that person came from
    - Look into Canada and who is pushing hard for more war against Russia
    - Look at who loses/gains money in this war

    Etc, it is up to you
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    Here come the Walking Dead:


    Zelensky handed the congressmen a Ukrainian flag with the signatures of the AFU soldiers, which he allegedly brought from the war-torn town of Artemovsk (also known as Bakhmut). The flag was handed to Vice President Kamala Harris and Speaker Nancy Pelosi who ignored the SS symbols drawn on it. Another interesting detail is that the flag with Nazi symbols waved in their hands during Hanukkah.






    In her turn, Nancy Pelosi presented a special souvenir to the President of Ukraine. She awarded him with the American flag placed in a special triangular box made of wood.

    “This flag was waving today over the Capitol in honor of your visit,” the speaker said, handing over the souvenir.

    The special way that the American flag was folded 13 times is a long-standing tradition. Each fold has its own symbolic meaning associated with the expression of patriotism, loyalty and respect for America and its values. And the triangular shape goes back to the hats worn by soldiers during the struggle for US independence. The flag is usually folded in this way at solemn funeral ceremonies.





    A few hours earlier, during a press conference with Zelensky, US President Joe Biden solemnly declared : “This guy is ready to give his life for his country.”

    His interpreter made a very symbolic mistake when translating the claims:

    “I hope that the Congress will approve this financial assistance for our crimes… country”.




    Behind their Backs:


    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Russian Defense Ministry named new high-ranking participants in the military biological program in Ukraine, including ex-heads of the US Department of Health structures, all of them associated with the US Democratic Party, Commander of Russian Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Troops Lt. Gen. Igor Kirillov said.

    "Earlier, we presented materials confirming the participation of Hunter Biden and his Rosemont Seneca Foundation, as well as other structures controlled by the US Democratic Party in financing Pentagon's main contractors operating in Ukraine. It was shown how deeply the son of the current US President [Joe Biden], Hunter Biden, is involved in financing the Metabiota company controlled by the US Ministry of Defense," Kirillov said, following the 9th Review Conference of the Biological Weapons Convention.

    At the same time, some participants of closed projects still remain in the shadows, although they are key figures in the Ukrainian military biological program, the general explained.

    "Among them are former director of Defense Threat Reduction Agency Kenneth Myers, executive vice president of the CIA-controlled In-Q-Tel venture fund Tara O'Toole, former head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Thomas Frieden, former director of the National Institutes of Health Francis Collins, former CEO of the Battelle Memorial Institute Jeffrey Wadsworth, chief researcher and president of the Department of International Research, Development and Medicine of Pfizer, and many others," Kirillov revealed.

    The Russian official added that all those mentioned are beneficiaries of the Pentagon's biological projects in one way or another and are associated with the US Democratic Party.


    Kirillov also said that the Pentagon has been transferring the unfinished military-biological research in Ukraine to the states of Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

    "According to the available information, the Pentagon is actively transferring studies that are not completed within the framework of Ukrainian projects to the countries of Central Asia and Eastern Europe. Simultaneously, the US Department of Defense is increasing its cooperation with the states of Africa and the Asia-Pacific region – Kenya, Cambodia, Singapore, Thailand. States that already have laboratories with a high level of biological isolation are of particular interest to the American military department," Kirillov said, following the 9th Review Conference of the Biological Weapons Convention.

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    Slowly but surely, the emperor has no clothes reality is setting in

    "Rep. @chiproytx slams the omnibus spending bill on the House floor: "What you see here on the floor of the House of Representatives should make everybody ashamed!"


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    Mark the date! February 19, 2023

    Giant Anti-War Protest Coming To DC!


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    "WE the people, have composited a composition of composites, that conforms a structure of very well identified sub compositions that compose a compositive future for the compositive west. United in this composition there is a final composite purpose of composition that we will composite by compositing all the compositive west against the compositive enemy in the compositive east. WE the people compose a composition of compositions! Long live the compositions! Oh and democracy, energy and all those buzzwords i did not read on my pre-written statement too. Americans and all that, but forget about it 'Ukrainskya" is the deal


    WE the people will do whatever for the American composture.. i mean for the American people, until their composture turns good, i mean lives, yes that's what i mean, until their lives turn good!!!!

    Slava Compostini!

    "Slava Compostini!" cried the hungry unwashed crowd

    Send these serfs out to work now said the 'official'
    But sr, the mic is still open...
    Oh, my apologies, send the good honest valuable compost citizens to the work fields
    Sr.. Mic still open
    Oh my! You are fired!
    Ok Sir, good bye
    This damn compost serf, making look like a fool in front of these idiot useless serfs..
    Dear husband, your assistant quit and left the microphone open.....
    Oh for F sake, can any serf here do their job?
    Pay these fake compost citizen ass*oles already and tell them to leave! I want dinner now!
    Dear husband.. The mic is still open, no one knows how to shut it down...You fired the only one that knew...
    .
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    .
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    Mom! Mom guess what!!
    Hi son, what's going on?
    Slava pizzina
    Oh God... Is your wife there?
    Slava pizzarica
    Let me talk to your wife
    Ok slava pizzerola
    Hi mom, what's up?
    Your husband is having a slava episode
    Oh dear, i did not notice, please wait
    Dear husband! Snap out of it
    Slava Television!
    No God oh no, Snap out of it!
    Slava Pizzerola!
    Oh God Oh God.. What should i do...
    Slava panini хохол
    Oh My God... Nooooo
    khokhol.. khokhol.. Го́голь..
    Nooooooooooooo
    Го́голь... Го́голь.. Го́голь..
    Nyeeeeet...Screamed the wife...
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    US Navy to hold on to under-performers

    Recruitment struggles and staffing shortfalls have prompted the US Navy to suspend its so-called “up-or-out” policy of discharging veteran service members who haven’t performed well enough to get promoted.

    The Navy will instead retain under-performers to reduce its number of “gaps-at-sea,” meaning unfilled jobs on deployed vessels, according to a statement on Thursday by the chief of naval operations in Washington.

    Sailors were previously forced to leave active duty and transfer to the Naval Reserve if they didn’t advance to a high enough rank within a certain time period, called “high-year tenure.” The two-year pilot program will affect about 1,600 service members who otherwise might have been pushed out.

    US Army to expand weight rule – media READ MORE: US Army to expand weight rule – media
    The Navy reportedly has about 9,000 gaps-at-sea, reflecting recruitment struggles in all branches of the US military. The US Army, for example, fell 25% short of its intake goal, enlisting 15,000 fewer new troops than targeted. The Navy had a similar shortfall in recruits for its reserve force.

    The new retention program marks the latest step by the Navy this year to address its staffing shortfall. The branch previously relaxed its rules to allow senior enlisted advisers, known as command master chiefs, to serve as long as 36 years.

    It’s also offering enlistment bonuses and loan repayments totaling as much as $115,000 for new recruits. The Navy raised its maximum enlistment age to 41 from 39 and tweaked its hiring standards to allow more recruits who barely passed their entrance exams.

    “The Navy understands we are in a challenging recruiting environment, and we are focused on making sure that every active-component sailor who wants to remain on active duty has that opportunity,” Rear Admiral James Waters said in a statement.

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    Michael Bloomberg Reportedly Plotting to Buy Dow Jones or The Washington Post

    According to US media reports, the transaction will create an "unparalleled business news behemoth."
    Media mogul and billionaire Michael Bloomberg is considering the acquisition of a stake in Dow Jones – the publisher of the Wall Street Journal – US media reported, citing undisclosed sources. Another reported option on the table is buying out the Washington Post.
    Bloomberg purportedly sees Dow Jones as a “perfect fit” to expand his media empire and create an "unparalleled business news behemoth," according to US media.
    Dow Jones controls financial media outlets The Wall Street Journal, Barron's and Market Watch. It is also part of Rupert Murdoch`s News Corp, which he plans to merge with Fox Corporation. Bloomberg is reportedly skeptical about this idea, as per sources cited in the report. It is understood that Bloomberg hasn`t yet contacted Murdoch, but has hired investment bankers to evaluate the asset.
    The acquisition of Dow Jones will facilitate selling more subscriptions to the Bloomberg terminal. Subscriptions to the terminal constitute the vast majority of Bloomberg's revenue. This terminal, which gives direct access to stock prices and exclusive financial news, is highly valued by traders.
    Bloomberg is reportedly on good terms with Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos, who bought the outlet in 2013 for $250 million, nonetheless, experts believe that Bezos won`t sell his asset to Bloomberg. Washington Post spokesman earlier said that the newspaper is "not for sale".

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