13th April 2023 03:05
Link to Post #124
Avalon Member
Re: Dalai Lama is "personification of evil"
“Iam aware of what happened in Tibet, and my conclusions are not biased.
I was a friend and helper to the great benefactress Barbara Pettee, of the Tibetan lamas who escaped China and came to the US, including the Karmapa, and the news coming directly through those who escaped revealed the Chinese invaders as being incredibly brutal.
The conditions the people of Tibet were living in then were no different than those of the majority of people in China at the time, and those conditions in China have not changed today.”
Not for the million serfs that were freed from slavery after the annexation of Tibet by the People’s Republic of China. Their lives did improve once they were freed. Not for the higher up lamas and the elite who had to give up their slaves and lands.
And India is reporting now, that the amount of Tibetans moving to Dharamsala has dropped drastically from 3000 a year to about 100. And large amount of Tibetans are also leaving India for other countries or home in search of better paying jobs and a better life as in in India they’re treated as second class citizens.
The rule of the lamas over the people of Tibet was compassionate compared to that of Mao or today's Xijinping.
No it wasn’t, not in the old Tibet before the annexation by the PRC.
And even much earlier here is the historical description according to this article here,
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1551914
In the thirteenth century, Emperor Kublai Khan created the first Grand Lama, who was to preside over all the other lamas as might a pope over his bishops. Several centuries later, the Emperor of China sent an army into Tibet to support the Grand Lama, an ambitious 25-year-old man, who then gave himself the title of Dalai (Ocean) Lama, ruler of all Tibet.
His two previous lama “incarnations” were then retroactively recognized as his predecessors, thereby transforming the 1st Dalai Lama into the 3rd Dalai Lama. This 1st (or 3rd) Dalai Lama seized monasteries that did not belong to his sect, and is believed to have destroyed Buddhist writings that conflicted with his claim to divinity. The Dalai Lama who succeeded him pursued a sybaritic life, enjoying many mistresses, partying with friends, and acting in other ways deemed unfitting for an incarnate deity. For these transgressions he was murdered by his priests. Within 170 years, despite their recognized divine status, five Dalai Lamas were killed by their high priests or other courtiers. [7]
Then fast forward to before the annexation of Tibet in the same article it describes life in feudal Tibet
Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their peasant families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they were bonded for life. Tashì-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeated rape, beginning at age nine. [15] The monastic estates also conscripted children for lifelong servitude as domestics, dance performers, and soldiers.
In old Tibet there were small numbers of farmers who subsisted as a kind of free peasantry, and perhaps an additional 10,000 people who composed the “middle-class” families of merchants, shopkeepers, and small traders. Thousands of others were beggars. There also were slaves, usually domestic servants, who owned nothing. Their offspring were born into slavery. [16] The majority of the rural population were serfs. Treated little better than slaves, the serfs went without schooling or medical care. They were under a lifetime bond to work the lord’s land — or the monastery’s land — without pay, to repair the lord’s houses, transport his crops, and collect his firewood. They were also expected to provide carrying animals and transportation on demand. [17] Their masters told them what crops to grow and what animals to raise. They could not get married without the consent of their lord or lama. And they might easily be separated from their families should their owners lease them out to work in a distant location. [18]
From this article here,
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1551858
In the 1940s, only 200 families owned 95% of all land in Tibet, and 95% of its people were illiterate. Child labor was rampant, and malnutrition was common. The average life expectancy for serfs in Tibet was 36 years. When the serfs were "taxed," they had to provide various forms of forced labor. Some serfs owed all their daytime labor to the lords, others owed five days a week of unpaid labor, and some were at the disposal of the lord's every whim.
The accounting books of a typical aristocratic manor from 1951 shows the depths of the forced labor inflicted upon the serfs. The Darongqang manor owned 81 serfs, who were assigned a total of 21,266 days of corvee labor. They worked 11,826 days for the manor and 9,440 days for the feudal government led by the Dalai Lama. The average corvee labor of each serf amounted to 262.5 days per year, or 72% of their annual labor. On top of the forced labor, when the serfs grew any crops on their land, the lords also appropriated a portion of them. Having no worldly possessions, the serfs had to rent both instruments and farm animals at usurious rates in order to work on their share of crops.
And here’s examples of human skin and bone articles that were made from slaves and serfs ,
https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/sta...48973574914048
https://twitter.com/PromoterBoxing/s...42933110235137
https://twitter.com/PromoterBoxing/s...42936209846275
https://twitter.com/PromoterBoxing/s...42938797727744
You have already trashed your own case as being misinformed by trying to present the CCP as anything other than tyrants and blatant propagandists.
My case was not about the CCP, but about the violent history of Tibet prior to the annexation in the late fifties and your lack of information about that. You brought up the CCP instead.
“I think you should consider that you have fallen for CCP propaganda yourself, and stop pointing the finger until you have done a lot more research into the threat they pose to the whole world.”
That’s a laugh and a half!
Edit:
and the Anti Communist hysteria didn’t happen and there was no political repression during that time.
https://www.gpisd.org/cms/lib01/TX01...20hysteria.pdf
and the freedom of the press in America runs uncensored and there is no American propaganda, US media doesn’t lie, and not under government control.
There’s no poverty, and no homelessness in America.
End Edit:
I am doing and will continue to research but what I’m investigating is in line with the topic of this thread regarding the Dalai Lama past and present and not about the CCP or the Chinese propaganda.
“What they are doing to the Uighur people in China alone is criminal, just as much as the chaos they caused in Tibet.”
I know about the plight of the Uighur and it’s very sad but that is not the topic of this thread.
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks