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    More stirring stuff, this time (again) from Clare Daly - MEP

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    No public consultation. No debate. A plan rushed through behind closed doors. A unilateral declaration by an unelected Commissioner that 🇪🇺 is now "a war economy," & the people of Europe have to pay for it! Well the corks must be popping in the arms industry boardrooms tonight.
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    In about 1970 I would have been in high school in the US, probably my sophomore year was when I took the one required "American History" class, and I swear, I had no idea that the Russians defeated Hitler and the Third Reich. I'd like to see a copy of that (now 50 some year old) US History book, and see if it was my fault, maybe it was there but I glossed over it... or was it the US-centric omission of any facts not glorifying the US role in ending WWII (with weapons of mass destruction, I might add.) I know that at the time, I had no clue how big of a sacrifice in terms of lives lost - 26 to 27 million citizens - the war had been for Russia. Thanks, Russia. You got rid of most of the Nazis (other than the ones the US imported, in Operation Paperclip.)


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    https://twitter.com/anadoluagency/st...96759289602049



    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/russia-ukra...ission/2893931

    Vatican confirms Russia-Ukraine peace mission

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    The Vatican confirmed a Russia-Ukraine peace mission on Wednesday but refrained from going into further detail, saying it is at a confidential level.

    There are developments, but they are, of course, confidential, said Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin on the sidelines of an event at the Pontifical Lateranense University in the Italian capital of Rome, according to the state-run ANSA news agency.

    “I really believe it will move forward," he asserted.

    At the end of April, Pope Francis announced that the Vatican is involved in a peace mission to try to end the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, without disclosing details.

    "There is a mission underway now but it is not yet public. When it is public, I will reveal it," the Pope told reporters on his way back from Hungary.

    Both Kyiv and Moscow later denied any knowledge of the initiative.

    Parolin, however, insisted that "They were not denials.”

    "They had said they didn't know anything about it, but then there were contacts where it was clarified on both sides that there had been a misunderstanding,” he added.

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    Russia Withdraws 1990 Treaty, Attacks 2 Ukr Bakhmut Buildings; Prigozhin Chaos; Cleverly Doubts


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    Ukraine is preparing up to nine mechanized brigades for a counteroffensive, Czech President Pavel said.

    In total, this is 72 thousand people, 900 armored personnel carriers and 315 tanks.

    Pavel added that there is no need to hurry with the counterattack, there is only one chance, so it is necessary to prepare as much as possible.

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    If West stops helping Ukraine, Kyiv to surrender in a few days, Josep Borrell

    "I know how to end the war immediately: I stop providing military assistance to Ukraine, and Ukraine will surrender in a few days. That’s it; the war is over," he said.

    At the same time, he added that although it will be peace, it will not be beneficial for the West. This statement once again proves that Ukraine is just a puppet in the hands of the "progressive powers", which is needed to resist Russia. - COC reports

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    Monument to the soldiers who died during the Special Military Operation was unveiled in Crimea.

    The first monument in Crimea to those killed in a special military operation has been unveiled in the Simferopol district. The memorial immortalizes the names of 20 servicemen, natives of the peninsula

    The monument includes two sculptures - of a pilot and an infantryman. The inscription on the plates reads: "Eternal glory and eternal memory to the SMO heroes who fell in battle".

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    U.S. and British officials reneged on their solemn 1991-1992 assurances to Moscow that NATO would not move “one inch to the East” if Russia agreed to remove its 400,000 troops from East Germany and allow German reunification under NATO. Instead, NATO moved a thousand miles eastward, incorporating 14 former Soviet satellites, encircling Russia, and causing the Kremlin legitimate security fears.

    Abelow: NATO continuously asserted its intention to incorporate Ukraine, despite Russia’s repeated warnings that it views Ukraine’s NATO entry as an existential threat and a “line that cannot be crossed.”

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    In 2019, President Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, increasing Russian vulnerability to a U.S. first strike.

    Abelow told me, “The provocations that the United States and its allies have directed at Russia are policy blunders so serious that, had the situation been reversed, U.S. leaders would long ago have risked nuclear war with Russia.” Abelow concludes that the U.S. government bears significant responsibility for the Ukrainian war. I agree.

    The U.S. has escalated its belligerence throughout the war. As Chas Freeman, the former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, observed: “Everything we are doing, rather than accelerating an end to the fighting and some compromise, seems to be aimed at prolonging the fighting.”

    Col. Douglas Macgregor bitterly condemned the moral bankruptcy, the “shocking vacuum of humanity,” among the White House Neocon strategists who made common cause with Ukraine’s right wing ultranationalists (a polite description of the cohorts) to provoke the proxy war with Russia, sacrificing U.S. money and Ukrainian bodies: “They knew that Ukraine never had a chance to beat Russia any more than Mexico could beat the United States.” The administration’s stated purposes in Ukraine — exhausting the Russian military and deposing President Putin — were both longtime aspirations of the Neocon clique. “They wasted all these Ukrainian lives to gratify their vanities.” Just look at this succinct summary of the Neocon agenda published the year BEFORE the Ukraine war: https://asiatimes.com/2021/12/neocon...er-in-ukraine/

    President Zelensky’s recent telephone appeal to China’s President Xi for help in settling the war with Russia suggests that Zelensky and his backers understand that their prospects of winning the war are minimal and quickly receding, something they cannot admit publicly without sounding defeatist. The call also suggests that President Zelensky has lost faith in the American government’s appetite for ending the conflict.

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    Thanks. Wonderful to watch, important key-moment history recorded on film.

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    Yes I agree wholeheartedly!
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    Advisor to Zelensky's Office was killed

    Reportedly, Aleksey Titarenko, wad the chief adviser to the Directorate for Domestic and Humanitarian Policy.

    Zelensky's Office says he "died on the front lines." However, according to other sources, Titarenko was destroyed during an artillery strike on the Chasov Yar area, where high-ranking officers and several politicians of the Kiev regime were located.

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    The music is just so melancholy, we have forgotten how bitter and devastating this war was for all Europeans, destruction of all that was beautiful and valued, so many killed, the resonance is still keenly felt today, it is so terrible they are fomenting more of this for the people of the world. I was born a mere 13 years after the end of WWII and I remember the air raid shelters and devastation around Liverpool/ Wirral area, just hits me sometimes the scale of this war. I am responding to that archival footage in Berlin in 1945.

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    Love him or loathe him, you've I think got to admit that this little segment from yesterday's CNN Town Hall sees Donald Trump in sparkling form. "..in 24 hours" is probably stretching it but it's heartening to hear both RFK Jnr recently, and Donald Trump speaking sanely about what's going on here
    Kaitlin Collins: “Do you want Ukraine to win this war?”

    Trump: “I don’t think in terms of winning and losing. I think in terms of getting it settled so we stop killing all these people.” [loud applause]
    Source: https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...12317859717121

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    In about 1970 I would have been in high school in the US, probably my sophomore year was when I took the one required "American History" class, and I swear, I had no idea that the Russians defeated Hitler and the Third Reich. I'd like to see a copy of that (now 50 some year old) US History book, and see if it was my fault, maybe it was there but I glossed over it... or was it the US-centric omission of any facts not glorifying the US role in ending WWII (with weapons of mass destruction, I might add.) I know that at the time, I had no clue how big of a sacrifice in terms of lives lost - 26 to 27 million citizens - the war had been for Russia. Thanks, Russia. You got rid of most of the Nazis (other than the ones the US imported, in Operation Paperclip.)
    Me too, American History, and I don't remember any Russian Participation. Really only knew of their participation until later and it wasn't from any state sponsored education. They may have been mentioned, but it was so insignificant that I have absolutely no memory of it at all. It would be interesting to know how they handle that today.
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    Britain has supplied Ukraine with long-range cruise missiles- official

    LONDON, May 11 (Reuters) - Britain has supplied Ukraine with Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles, a Western official said on Thursday, which would allow its forces to hit Russian troops and logistics hubs deep behind the front line.

    CNN first reported the decision, citing multiple senior Western officials. It said Britain had received assurances from the Ukrainian government that these missiles would be used only within Ukrainian sovereign territory and not inside Russia.

    . . .

    John Healy, Secretary of State for Defence, announced in Parliament a short while ago that UK was supplying Ukraine with Cruise missiles and that he hoped other UN countries would follow suit.

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