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    Safari were supposedly responsible for the Bucha massacre,

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by kfm27917 (here)

    Wagner Chief Reveals 20,000 Of His Fighters Killed At Bakhmut, Says Putin's War Has Backfired

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-has-backfired
    I don't think Prigozhin 'reveals' it, I think he says it. And what he says often changes wildly from day to day.

    The Kremlin will be figuring ways to quietly sideline him without demoralizing his men — a tricky project, also bearing in mind that he's popular in Russia. As many have pointed out, in any other country's military command structure he'd have been dismissed on the spot months ago for insubordination.

    And his unpredictable personality swings show all the signs of PTSD, which would be understandable. That's a mitigating factor in human terms, but he's still a wild card that sometimes does Russia no favors considering that this is at least partly a PR war.

    The thing to remember is that he's not a military commander, nor has he ever served in any military ever. Others with senior military experience determine Wagner's tactics on the ground, not him. He's more of a talisman, showman and spokesperson, though his larger-than-life role in motivating his soldiers can't be underestimated.
    Alexander Mercouris discusses Prigozhin's statements at 38:09, for about 8 minutes, in his video update for today:


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    https://twitter.com/Sinnaig/status/1661134220985548800




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    Yevgeniy Prigozhin👏👏👏:

    ❗️Bakhmut results:
    1. 6.5 thousand foreign mercenaries of the Ukrainian Armed Forces were destroyed.
    2. 10 thousand units of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.
    3. 35 thousand units of weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were taken as trophies.
    4. More than 50 aircraft and helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.
    5. 55,000 soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed.
    6. 85 thousand soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were wounded.
    7. Such a large percentage of the dead was due to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were almost surrounded and did not have time to take out the wounded.
    8. PMC Wagner has also losses, but several times less.
    9. 10 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were completely destroyed and deprived of combat capability.
    10. 21 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated and withdrawn to the rear for reorganization.
    11. All these brigades were preparing for the offensive but instead of an offensive, they were defeated in Bakhmut.

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    Brilliant synopsis of the historical context for the Ukraine War. Can anyone read this and still maintain, as the Biden administration does incessantly, that the invasion was “unprovoked”? #Kennedy24


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    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    https://unherd.com/2023/05/kissingers-final-warning/

    Kissinger's final warning

    How one chooses to celebrate Kissinger’s Century depends on where you sit in the “Kissinger wars”. To his detractors, Henry Kissinger was an imperialist who pursued US global supremacy with unmatched ruthlessness and cynicism. To his supporters, he was a diplomatic genius and a peacemaker.

    In The Trial of Henry Kissinger, Christopher Hitchens famously called for his prosecution “for war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offences against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture”. For him, the Kissinger Doctrine was dangerously straightforward: the US reserved the right to intervene anywhere in the world in defence of its interest, including by conspiring against democratically elected governments.

    This manifested itself in a number of ways: in Kissinger’s support for Pinochet’s violent overthrow of Allende’s socialist government in Chile and for the 17-year-long dictatorship that followed; in his approval of the equally brutal Argentinian military junta of Jorge Videla; in his enabling of the Indonesian occupation of East Timor and the campaign of state-sponsored terror that followed; in his secret support for Pakistan as it committed shocking atrocities in Bangladesh; and in his encouragement of Nixon’s secret bombing campaign against neutral Cambodia and Laos, which killed an estimated 150,000 civilians. So wide-ranging was US interventionism under Kissinger that, in 1976, a 33-year-old Joe Biden accused him of trying to promulgate “a global Monroe Doctrine”.

    Of all the offences committed by Kissinger, the Indochina bombing campaign is perhaps the most damning. In Kissinger’s Shadow, Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Greg Grandin chronicled the scope of the destruction. The United States, Grandin wrote, dropped “a trillion pieces of shrapnel — either ball bearings or razor-sharp barbed darts” on Indochina. In Laos, American pilots deployed “a ton of explosives for each and every” citizen, which continue to maim and kill Laotian men, women and children to this day. As a portrait of Kissinger’s “grand strategy”, it is hard to disagree with Hitchens’s conclusion that his actions reveal a “a callous indifference to human life and human rights” — and to democracy, one may add.

    With his reputation largely (and questionably) untainted by Watergate, Kissinger went on to found, in 1982, his own lucrative geopolitical consulting firm, Kissinger Associates, which he continues to run. We know relatively little of the work it carries out. Several attempts have been made, at the congressional level, to get the company to hand over its secretive “client list” — but all have failed. In 1989, Senator Jesse Helms unsuccessfully demanded to be shown it before he would consider confirming Lawrence Eagleburger (a Kissinger protégé and an employee of Kissinger Associates) as Deputy Secretary of State. In 2002, Kissinger chose to quit as chair of the 9/11 Commission rather than hand over the list for public review.

    It is no secret, however, that Kissinger has used his extensive knowledge of and close relationship with foreign governments — including, one must assume, the several dictatorships he helped come to power — to advance the interests of some of the world’s largest corporations, including American Express, Coca-Cola, Daewoo, Heinz, Ericsson, Fiat and Volvo. As Grandin writes: “Kissinger Associates was an early player in the wave of privatisations that took place after the end of the Cold War — in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe and Latin America — helping to create a new international oligarchic class.”

    The rest here,

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    Very wry

    Source: https://twitter.com/DlugajJuly/statu...36368017391629

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    What a week so far!

    We liberated Artyomovsk with shovels.

    Made a contribution to fight climate change by canceling the ukrainian carbon footprint in Belgorod in an afternoon

    Blew another ukrainian cope mission out of the water in the black sea

    And, according to the cope poodles in my comments, also liberated Kursk. 😁

    I sincerely hope they manage to put Zaluzhny back together cause the perfomance they have now is just sad, even by their standards.
    This is just Kamala Harris level of comedy now.

    It's almost as if AFU is lead by a third tier comedian and a incontinent senile old guy.

    Crazy times.

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    • The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
    By recognizing that the question of NATO enlargement is at the center of this war, we understand why U.S. weaponry will not end this war. Only diplomatic efforts can do that.
    George Orwell wrote in 1984 that "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." Governments work relentlessly to distort public perceptions of the past. Regarding the Ukraine War, the Biden administration has repeatedly and falsely claimed that the Ukraine War started with an unprovoked attack by Russia on Ukraine on February 24, 2022. In fact, the war was provoked by the U.S. in ways that leading U.S. diplomats anticipated for decades in the lead-up to the war, meaning that the war could have been avoided and should now be stopped through negotiations.

    Recognizing that the war was provoked helps us to understand how to stop it. It doesn’t justify Russia’s invasion. A far better approach for Russia might have been to step up diplomacy with Europe and with the non-Western world to explain and oppose U.S. militarism and unilateralism. In fact, the relentless U.S. push to expand NATO is widely opposed throughout the world, so Russian diplomacy rather than war would likely have been effective.

    The Biden team uses the word “unprovoked” incessantly, most recently in Biden’s major speech on the first-year anniversary of the war, in a recent NATO statement, and in the most recent G7 statement. Mainstream media friendly to Biden simply parrot the White House. The New York Times is the lead culprit, describing the invasion as “unprovoked” no fewer than 26 times, in five editorials, 14 opinion columns by NYT writers, and seven guest op-eds!

    There were in fact two main U.S. provocations. The first was the U.S. intention to expand NATO to Ukraine and Georgia in order to surround Russia in the Black Sea region by NATO countries (Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, and Georgia, in counterclockwise order). The second was the U.S. role in installing a Russophobic regime in Ukraine by the violent overthrow of Ukraine’s pro-Russian President, Viktor Yanukovych, in February 2014. The shooting war in Ukraine began with Yanukovych’s overthrow nine years ago, not in February 2022 as the U.S. government, NATO, and the G7 leaders would have us believe.

    The key to peace in Ukraine is through negotiations based on Ukraine’s neutrality and NATO non-enlargement.

    Biden and his foreign policy team refuse to discuss these roots of the war. To recognize them would undermine the administration in three ways. First, it would expose the fact that the war could have been avoided, or stopped early, sparing Ukraine its current devastation and the U.S. more than $100 billion in outlays to date. Second, it would expose President Biden’s personal role in the war as a participant in the overthrow of Yanukovych, and before that as a staunch backer of the military-industrial complex and very early advocate of NATO enlargement. Third, it would push Biden to the negotiating table, undermining the administration’s continued push for NATO expansion.

    The archives show irrefutably that the U.S. and German governments repeatedly promised to Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not move “one inch eastward” when the Soviet Union disbanded the Warsaw Pact military alliance. Nonetheless, U.S. planning for NATO expansion began early in the 1990s, well before Vladimir Putin was Russia’s president. In 1997, national security expert Zbigniew Brzezinski spelled out the NATO expansion timeline with remarkable precision.

    U.S. diplomats and Ukraine’s own leaders knew well that NATO enlargement could lead to war. The great US scholar-statesman George Kennan called NATO enlargement a “fateful error,” writing in the New York Times that, “Such a decision may be expected to inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion; to have an adverse effect on the development of Russian democracy; to restore the atmosphere of the cold war to East-West relations, and to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking.”

    President Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Perry considered resigning in protest against NATO enlargement. In reminiscing about this crucial moment in the mid-1990s, Perry said the following in 2016: “Our first action that really set us off in a bad direction was when NATO started to expand, bringing in eastern European nations, some of them bordering Russia. At that time, we were working closely with Russia and they were beginning to get used to the idea that NATO could be a friend rather than an enemy ... but they were very uncomfortable about having NATO right up on their border and they made a strong appeal for us not to go ahead with that.”

    In 2008, then U.S. Ambassador to Russia, and now CIA Director, William Burns, sent a cable to Washington warning at length of grave risks of NATO enlargement: “Ukraine and Georgia's NATO aspirations not only touch a raw nerve in Russia, they engender serious concerns about the consequences for stability in the region. Not only does Russia perceive encirclement, and efforts to undermine Russia's influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests. Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.”

    Ukraine’s leaders knew clearly that pressing for NATO enlargement to Ukraine would mean war. Former Zelensky advisor Oleksiy Arestovych declared in a 2019 interview “that our price for joining NATO is a big war with Russia.”

    During 2010-2013, Yanukovych pushed neutrality, in line with Ukrainian public opinion. The U.S. worked covertly to overthrow Yanukovych, as captured vividly in the tape of then U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt planning the post-Yanukovych government weeks before the violent overthrow of Yanukovych. Nuland makes clear on the call that she was coordinating closely with then Vice President Biden and his national security advisor Jake Sullivan, the same Biden-Nuland-Sullivan team now at the center of U.S. policy vis-à-vis Ukraine.

    After Yanukovych’s overthrow, the war broke out in the Donbas, while Russia claimed Crimea. The new Ukrainian government appealed for NATO membership, and the U.S. armed and helped restructure the Ukrainian army to make it interoperable with NATO. In 2021, NATO and the Biden Administration strongly recommitted to Ukraine’s future in NATO.

    In the immediate lead-up to Russia’s invasion, NATO enlargement was center stage. Putin’s draft US-Russia Treaty (December 17, 2021) called for a halt to NATO enlargement. Russia’s leaders put NATO enlargement as the cause of war in Russia’s National Security Council meeting on February 21, 2022. In his address to the nation that day, Putin declared NATO enlargement to be a central reason for the invasion.

    Historian Geoffrey Roberts recently wrote: “Could war have been prevented by a Russian-Western deal that halted NATO expansion and neutralised Ukraine in return for solid guarantees of Ukrainian independence and sovereignty? Quite possibly.” In March 2022, Russia and Ukraine reported progress towards a quick negotiated end to the war based on Ukraine’s neutrality. According to Naftali Bennett, former Prime Minister of Israel, who was a mediator, an agreement was close to being reached before the U.S., U.K., and France blocked it.

    While the Biden administration declares Russia’s invasion to be unprovoked, Russia pursued diplomatic options in 2021 to avoid war, while Biden rejected diplomacy, insisting that Russia had no say whatsoever on the question of NATO enlargement. And Russia pushed diplomacy in March 2022, while the Biden team again blocked a diplomatic end to the war.

    By recognizing that the question of NATO enlargement is at the center of this war, we understand why U.S. weaponry will not end this war. Russia will escalate as necessary to prevent NATO enlargement to Ukraine. The key to peace in Ukraine is through negotiations based on Ukraine’s neutrality and NATO non-enlargement. The Biden administration’s insistence on NATO enlargement to Ukraine has made Ukraine a victim of misconceived and unachievable U.S. military aspirations. It’s time for the provocations to stop, and for negotiations to restore peace to Ukraine.

    Correction: An earlier version of this article misstated the date of William Burns' 2008 cable warning about NATO enlargement. That error has been fixed.

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    In my view most in Mainstream Media KNOWS it is the truth but chose to play the "ignorance card" acting dumb about it ... willful ignorance of mass crimes & mass murder is NOT an excuse to be excluded for future severe punishments ... as long as they think they can "get away with it" they will continue until they can't ... that simple.

    Most Western Mainstream Media is 100% complicit in the continuation of War Crimes in Ukraine! ... Without their specific role in "perception management" & selling only tunnel vision narratives, prolongation of the War would not be possible.

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    May 27th, 2023 two days from now ... War Criminal Henry Kissinger will be 100 years old (... I wonder if he uses Adrenochrome ... ).
    • When he is 100 years old, what "new info" will be released to the masses about him? ... Or do they (all mainstream media networks) use this as an opportunity to present (sell) him as a "hero" blah blah blah.
    Klaus Schwab (student of War Criminal Henri Kissinger) founder of WEF was a long time part of the "Bilderberg Steering Committee" which sadly enough most Alternative Media Networks forget to mention .... I exposed The Bilderbergers since 1990 onward on Local Radio & TV Amsterdam ... Been in Dresden Germany 2016 Bilderberg Conference Protest interviewing among others: Dan Dicks of PressForTruth, Luke Rudkowskiof WeAreChange.org & Tony Gosling of Bilderberg.org ... If you go to big alternative video server platforms and search for Bilderberg Meeting 2023 in Portugal, you will see it is happening again for a couple of days! << and most of the Mainstream Media REFUSE to report on it.

    "World Economic Forum" WEF Founded by Klaus Schwab who is in the "inner circle" of The Secretive Bilderberg Group Meetings (started in 1954 The Netherlands 🇳🇱 partially financed by the CIA & Rockefellers) of the (unelected) Ultra Elite deciding Future Policies & Agendas which was first denied & ridiculed for decades until "conspiracy researchers" exposing them are now totally vindicated >>> now they admit "they still exist"...



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    🇬🇧🇺🇦 Where were the Ukrainian formations aiming in Crimea?

    The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried once again to strike with drones on the Crimean peninsula. In total, seven Mugin-5 UAVs were used at facilities in different parts of the Republic. Target designation was provided by the American RQ-4B UAV.

    ▪️In the north of the peninsula, one UAV was planted by an electronic warfare unit near the village of Steregushchee . The drone could move further in the direction of Dzhankoy or in the direction of the airfield south of Slavny .

    To the north of Dzhankoy, two Mugins were destroyed by air defense rifle detachments near the Mamut railway station : the Armed Forces of Ukraine again intended to disrupt logistics with the Kherson region.

    Also, one UAV was suppressed near Maslovo , and it was heading either further to the railway line or to military depots in the southeast. Dropped Mugin-5 in the Komsomolsk area to a warehouse.

    ▪️In the south, one drone was destroyed near the village of Zavetnoe . Its target was most likely a water pumping station : the UAV was shot down by a rifle squad a couple of hundred meters away.

    Also, two Mugin-5 UAVs were shot down by a mobile air defense detachment at the naval aviation airfield of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy near Kacha . The drones were destroyed by small arms on the approach.

    🔻The drone attack was quite expected. In anticipation of the air raid over the Black Sea, five reconnaissance aircraft of the US Air Force and NATO Air Force were operating .

    In this case, it is more interesting how effectively the air defense units of the RF Armed Forces have adapted to regular attacks. If earlier anti-aircraft missiles were used, now most of the UAVs are shot down by rifle detachments, which have proven their effectiveness against low-flying targets.

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