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    Is DISCLOSURE Happening? | Richard Dolan Show w/Steve Bassett


    "For more than twenty years, no one in the UFO community has been more associated with the concept of UFO Disclosure than Steve Bassett. Since the 1990s, he has worked tirelessly as a self-described UFO activist to achieve the goal of official recognition of the reality of the UFO/UAP reality by the United States government. Now three weeks after the latest major revelation in the community from David Grusch, Richard Dolan interviews Steve on what's next. Are we truly close to some kind of genuine UFO Disclosure? Steve believes the answer is yes and explains why. "

    Steve Bassett says he's now concerning himself with Post Disclosure, anticipates that mainstream media is bracing itself for this huge, huge story which is about to blow wide open.

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    Now that i've listened to the whole video I think Steve Bassett is frankly naïve about what will happen during disclosure. His views are more in line with Steven Greer's. In fact he's gone down quite a lot in my estimation. I think Richard is correct that we will not get the truth from our governments and we'll have to fight for it, as usual. After all, they haven't been truthful about anything so far.
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    News Nation interviews Don Schmidt of ICER discussing the discovery of a second debris location
    at Roswell. Even to this day and, in particularly, recently US air force still go back to check for any debris that may be around since the 1947 crash.

    The second debris location have now whole civilian teams with detectors scanning the area.

    The Roswell annual festival has attracted a lot more interest by the public.

    James Fox is interviewed as regards the best UFO images. News Nation shows the McMinville UFO of 1950 as the best sharp image historically. Unfortunately, this image was imaged processed in 2017 to be a hoax. I posted the analysis and results on PA back
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...s-the-evidence

    Begins +/- min 10:20 with Don Schmidt

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    Is DISCLOSURE Happening? | Richard Dolan Show w/Steve Bassett


    ...

    Now that i've listened to the whole video I think Steve Bassett is frankly naïve about what will happen during disclosure. His views are more in line with Steven Greer's. In fact he's gone down quite a lot in my estimation. I think Richard is correct that we will not get the truth from our governments and we'll have to fight for it, as usual. After all, they haven't been truthful about anything so far.
    I have found Bassett interesting to listen to, partly because there is so much to disagree with here. Like Greer, he has a glowingly positive view of the alien agenda. I think in this interview he predicted that we would have first contact in a few years from disclosure. But I think Greer is ahead of him because he realizes just how psycopathic the human machine is clamping down on disclosure. Because of this, I bet that if the mainstream media does bring in anyone new from the world of ufology, Bassett would be their stooge.

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    Just published by the Sunday World in Europe.

    The Editors have emphasized the last few lines.

    Although we may be aware of the interview with Garry Nolan some statements
    may have fallen through the cracks. In particular, the statement in bold may have been premature, he seemed to know ahead
    of time that the Grusch interview and may be more whistleblowers may break the oath and come forward.

    Last month, Stanford academic and Nobel Prize nominee, Professor Garry Nolan, told the SALT expo in New York City that there was a 100% probability that alien life had arrived on earth.

    “It is a 100 pc probability and that’s not just my opinion, you just have to look at what our Government is doing right now,” he said.

    “We have the National Defence appropriation act signed by Biden, establishment of a UAP office, and a whistleblower programme for those working on reverse engineering programmes.

    “People can break their oaths and talk to Congress. The most recent one created a hornet’s nest in Washington.

    “You are seeing drones or advanced AI. We already deal with an advanced intelligence in our emails. Chat GPT- we don’t even know what it’s doing.

    "Who amongst you are intelligent enough to realize what you’re assessing?

    “South American native tribes didn’t realize when the Spanish ships were on the horizon.

    “We are not at the top of the intellectual food chain. There’s something here,” Stanford University’s award-winning scientist added.

    https://m.sundayworld.com/news/world...436036855.html Last lines are most important

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Some bullet points: Rep. Burchett won’t go to skifs if he suspects that by doing so his mouth will be muzzled. Some of what would be told he would already know. Some congressmen compromised. Saw better fidelity-evidence of extraplanetary artifacts than the public. Was taken to a Fla base along with congresswoman Luna and not shown what was promised. Money & power. Realistic resistance against Disclosure. Etc.

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    Ross Coulthart: Recovered UAPs, Whistleblower Grusch



    Ross Coulthart venting about the hesitance of mainstream media to report on David Grusch's revelations. His theory is that the Top Brass are concerned about recriminations should their involvement in the cover up come out. They're right to be concerned, if only half of what we think they're covering up is true, ie Free Energy, for instance. This is a long video and I've only listened to the first 30 minutes so far.

    Unsure of the exact date Senator Gillibrand secured amnesty for the UAP whistleblowers, but here is a link to the Press Release from her office dated 9th December 2021 regarding the Amendment:

    https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/ne...n-final-ndaa_/
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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Ross Coulthart is live in Melbourne for a talk, QA and book signing.. who is coming? we can meet up Aug 12!


    Sorry I cannot seem to embed the tweet.


    https://twitter.com/rosscoulthart/st...10670179414016
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    I've always been intrigued by the "if people knew the truth, it would collapse the society" recurrent theme.

    What could be so bad about knowing the truth that would mean an end to most of our beliefs? That we are raised as cattle and every now and again harvested? That GOD does not exist, as potentially attested by million years old alien civilizations? What else?

    After finding out what the white rabbit really is about, wtf else could top that?

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    That we need to get off our high horse and realize we are not top of the food chain... that we could potentially also be "cattle" for these beings... i got this confirmation in a dowload during my qhht session.. take from it what you will..but the human ego will not let us realize the honest TRUTH or be able to accept this.


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    I've always been intrigued by the "if people knew the truth, it would collapse the society" recurrent theme.

    What could be so bad about knowing the truth that would mean an end to most of our beliefs? That we are raised as cattle and every now and again harvested? That GOD does not exist, as potentially attested by million years old alien civilizations? What else?

    After finding out what the white rabbit really is about, wtf else could top that?
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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    I've always been intrigued by the "if people knew the truth, it would collapse the society" recurrent theme.

    What could be so bad about knowing the truth that would mean an end to most of our beliefs? That we are raised as cattle and every now and again harvested? That GOD does not exist, as potentially attested by million years old alien civilizations? What else?

    After finding out what the white rabbit really is about, wtf else could top that?
    Not sure how you’re drawing your conclusions but there is a heck of a lot of data out there that’s counter to these claims.

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    New UFO vid doing rounds on 4 chan.. do not know if this is legit but very intriguing


    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/x/imag...770948445.webm
    https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/35183367/#35191939
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    Following Grusch interview announcing the Italy UFO crash of 1933, here is an exclusive from an Italian researcher who fully investigated the case.

    EXCLUSIVE: Italian researcher shares extraordinary evidence files of world's 'first' UFO crash - 14 years before Roswell - and the secret department set up by Mussolini's government to study the craft that was later captured by US forces


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ash-Italy.html

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    That's a lens flare, technically called a bokeh. It was the same for those so-called pyramid UFOs a while back.

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    12 ALIEN CRAFT In US Custody, Per Intel: Michael Shellenberger; Single Source Claims PILOT Recovered

    A pity that that Michael Shellenberger kept things out of his story pertaining to the pilots of craft.

    Much has been made of compartmentalisation holding back the sharing of knowledge and perhaps now, even though full Disclosure hasn't yet happened, whistleblowers, etc. will get together and share technical information.
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    Ross Coulthart Drops UFO BOMBSHELL

    Ross Coulthart has just announced that there is one big craft, that is so big that a building had to be constructed around the craft.

    The craft is out side the US in another country. Ross knows the location.

    If this revelation is true then the craft was unable to be moved or dismantled by conventional tooling then it is possible that the craft is of a size that cannot be transported by any means. Its possible it is the size of an aircraft carrier or bigger and that the structure may be seamless and therefore extremely challenging to disassemble.

    Regarding the location outside the US. Because if the craft is so big then could the large building have been noticed by now. Assuming its there for the past decades. It may appear to be a normal building.
    It's possible that with such a large building in situ it may be in a remote location. Unlikely to be near an urban area, it would have attracted attention.

    For example, Antarctica or remote Australian outback. The US may already had agreements with historical existing agreements such as the 5 eyes. Other agreements with other nations outside the 5 eyes were possibly also agreed upon to keep this secret.
    Interestingly enough I suspect the building contractors may have had to be selected within the MIC or other means.

    Of course all this is speculation. Any effort to find the large building vis Google Earth may also be difficult as we don't know the shape to the large craft. Is it round? Is it a triangle? etc. The shape may not matter for constructing a conventional building that could distract one from noticing it.

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    Law attorneys are preparing law suits dozens and more against the contractors that are holding the anomalous technology immediately.

    The contractors have the opportunity to take the amnesty offer to stop these law suits.

    Interestingly enough, Danny Sheehan, whom works with Stephen Greer, who happens to be one of the lawyers is either involved with Greer or independently in taking this action. Greer at the recent Disclosure DC meeting did state and emphasize that there was 6 months to come clean on this aspect of this subject or we will execute an action.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Ross Coulthart Drops UFO BOMBSHELL
    full post above....#275


    Bombshell indeed...!!!

    Shades of the Arthur C Clarke 1973 science fiction novel Rendezvous with Rama.... ?

    Quote Set in the 2130s, the story involves a 50-by-20-kilometre (31 by 12 mi) cylindrical alien starship that enters the Solar System. The story is told from the point of view of a group of human explorers who intercept the ship in an attempt to unlock its mysteries.
    It couldn't be that big (could it )..... but maybe something like half a mile long or in diameter - or a quarter.... ?

    Isn't Arthur C Clarke thought of as a bit of an insider - tasked with helping to get sensitive info into the public arena ...?

    for example in the link here

    Quote Clarke, well known for penning the novel and screenplay for 2001: A Space Odyssey, was a writer of both science fiction and science fact. His contributions to the rapid technological development of the mid-20th century included popularizing the concept of a network of geostationary communications satellites—a cornerstone of 21st-century society—as early as 1945, 12 years before the launch of Sputnik. Clarke was also a noted deep-sea explorer, inventor and television personality. He covered the Apollo 11 mission for CBS alongside Walter Cronkite.

    Then there's the massive craft in the popular mainstream movie... 'Independence Day' ...

    Just had a thought - with the Dr Who Tardis effect - perhaps a huge craft COULD have a 50 by 20 kilometre interior...
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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Technically speaking , a craft that can be contained even in very large building ( or have one built around it) is still a type of scout ship

    There are super sized class “spaceships” ( like the one I was part of in Bodhgaya 2002) that are designed as “space-city” or “star city” with capacity to contain thousands of inhabitants together and meant to last in space independently as long as possible providing optimal artificial environment for life sustenance,
    work - research and other type of work and travel.
    Most of them contain space and time bending technology so in turn,

    these giant “crafts” have no difficulty in technical terms in containing whole human city, area or settlement at once and even if their technology breaks they could not be really, humanly “contained” by any means.


    The Italian “Friendship Case” group as mentioned on the web seemed to speak of similarly space containing capacity of their spacecraft ( would seamlessly create own base under the surface by suppressing coarse matter without the need for any mechanical means “to build” and used 3D printing technology ( the simplest but likely to be understood one of today) to “build” a structure with equipment - base under surface - while some specific materials were required for construction times to times ..)

    Even further , more giant example of space cities would be “Dyson Spheres”,
    designed as perfect planetoids - artificially created to host whole civilisations or fragments of - out of the usual drag ( and force) imposed by physical solar systems.

    Most of the above are so “quiet” we would probably hardly notice their fly by/through
    as well as they could evenly ignore us under their peaceful circumstances
    especially if we were not able to answer their own intelligent signal for communication.


    In sum , no matter how many “spare parts” have been retrieved I believe that
    the problem of advanced communication between any “us and them” have not
    been solved till now and it would be far more exciting to hear press report from anybody to confirm that valid communication has occurred , the record of it and
    “what saying”.

    In search of intelligent life ...


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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    Wow!

    There sure is a whole lot of speculation on the above posts regarding the craft that Ross mentioned. I think we have to pull back on the reins of guessing all of the type of craft: actual size, shape, the point and purpose of the visitors intention on being here!!! Lol!

    Look, speculation is fun, but let’s not go too crazy! :-)

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

    I can't find the reference right now, but I remember very clearly that Linda Howe stated quite a few years ago that she had been told that one downed craft was so large it couldn't be moved, and therefore had to be buried on site.

    Linda never mentioned the location, but it seems it has to be possible that this is the same incident, that a building was constructed soon after, and once safely under cover (concealed from Russian and Chinese satellites!) the temporarily buried craft was exhumed so it could be properly studied.

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