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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I can't find the reference right now, but I remember very clearly that Linda Howe stated quite a few years ago that she had been told that one downed craft was so large it couldn't be moved, and therefore had to be buried on site.

    Linda never mentioned the location, but it seems it has to be possible that this is the same incident, that a building was constructed soon after, and once safely under cover (concealed from Russian and Chinese satellites!) the temporarily buried craft was exhumed so it could be properly studied.
    There is an image making the rounds on the Internet in South Korea of round structure as a possible location. I sent it to Ross and he indicated that in case he’s dragged before a US court and charged with breaching top-secret sci laws, that he’d never reveal the location of the particular object. He said there are some very interesting guesses being made on the Internet. Take that for what it’s worth.

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    Quote Posted by s7e6e (here)
    I've always been intrigued by the "if people knew the truth, it would collapse the society" recurrent theme.

    What could be so bad about knowing the truth that would mean an end to most of our beliefs? That we are raised as cattle and every now and again harvested? That GOD does not exist, as potentially attested by million years old alien civilizations? What else?

    After finding out what the white rabbit really is about, wtf else could top that?
    I am commenting on this somewhat old post as from what I can tell the "truth" would have the opposite effect.

    Learning the "truth about the universe" would most likely empower humanity.

    Humanity might learn that we are similar to what most consider "God" and that life truly has a purpose.

    The idea that humanity is a result of "random mutations" and that we are simple physical beings will be replaced with an acknowledgement of our power, and acknowledgment that we are more than our meat suit.

    This would lead to a general public that is much more difficult to control/ enslave.
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    I understand from the grapevine that there is a new Senate hearing provisionally planned for the 24th July chaired by Rep. Tim Burchett.
    I understand that some citizen research investigators have being considered to be invited to the Senate hearing.
    If that is the case, then this will be the first time invited key citizen UAP researchers to the government Senate hearings.
    I suspect that any invited citizen researchers considered were the ones that have specialized in crashed retrievals (CR).
    Following on from the Grusch interview this would make sense. The Senate hearing may focus on just CR.


    Rep. Burchett is a determined person that has no time for goosing around.
    It is known that Rep. Burchett won’t go to skifs if he suspects that by doing so his mouth will be muzzled. Some of what would be told he would already know. Some congressmen compromised. Saw better fidelity-evidence of extra planetary artifacts than the public. Was taken to a Fla base along with congresswoman Luna and not shown what was promised. Money & power. Realistic resistance against Disclosure. Etc.

    It will be interesting to see if this Senate hearing will drill down further to extract some evidence.

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    Slightly off topic... please delete if necessary.. but came across this trailer today.. it comes off as slightly whimsical/ humorous, but the messages are in plain sight and piling up to wake up the masses.. I will be checking this out!



    Humata Huxta Huvarsta

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    Rare Interview by Tim Ventura of APEC. Alternative Propulsion Energy Conference. 11 July, 2023

    Interview of Dr Eamonn Ansbro on the following topics within 30 mins

    Interview on US government ARRO and Grusch interview.
    Putting science to UAP. The influence on academic/science community.
    Vindicating Eamonn's 2001 paper about NHI/ET already carrying out surveillance around the Earth.
    An upgaded paper on the model and future website to demonstrate locations around the Earth where events may take place in the future.
    ICER, San Marino, UN and much more in 30 mins.

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    Rare Interview by Tim Ventura of APEC. Alternative Propulsion Energy Conference. 11 July, 2023

    Interview of Dr Eamonn Ansbro on the following topics within 30 mins

    Interview on US government ARRO and Grusch interview.
    Putting science to UAP. The influence on academic/science community.
    Vindicating Eamonn's 2001 paper about NHI/ET already carrying out surveillance around the Earth.
    An upgaded paper on the model and future website to demonstrate locations around the Earth where events may take place in the future.
    ICER, San Marino, UN and much more in 30 mins.

    Bumping this.

    aoibhghaire didn't mention this (maybe he could enlarge if he chooses?), but some following the UFO disclosure threads may already know that Dr Eamonn Ansbro is a regular, highly respected, and longstanding member of Avalon.


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    Just announced today: A live interview tonight at 7 UK time with another interview with Dr Eamonn Ansbro

    Premieres Jul 13 at 7pm GMT London time, 2023

    UAPS: An Automated Control System Monitoring Our Planet? - SETI Astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro | ICER

    Is Earth under observation by non-human surveillance probes? This hypothesis is not unique to SETI astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro.
    In March 2023, AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick and Harvard astrophysicist Dr. Avi Loeb jointly published a scientific paper in which they hypothesized, among other things, that a mothership could approach Earth and release several small probes into the atmosphere. But what is considered debatable nowadays was considered taboo 20 years ago.

    SETI astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro of Ireland's Kingsland Observatory and Monte de las Animas Observatory, Spain, had already published a very similar hypothesis in July 2001. This hypothesis was met with resistance from the SETI community. According to his theory, super spacecraft move in the upper stratosphere or even farther from the Earth's surface, releasing special surveillance drones. These drones move in 660 orbits around the Earth, and where they intersect, UFO sightings are more frequent. "We have tested the theory over the years in 27 locations in eight countries, and it has been 80 percent accurate," Dr. Ansbro told Robert Fleischer. So what's up with this theory? If it proves to be true, it would be of paramount importance to humanity....

    For more information, please visit website: https://icer.network

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    Hello Bill, after all these years on Avalon I didn't expect 'disclosure' would happen today.

    I hope you enjoy the other interview.

    aoibhghaire

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    US Congressman blows UAP SECRECY out of the water.

    US Congressman Tim Burchett shoots at Pentagon with both barrels about UAP secrecy with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell.

    Burchett backs down from nobody…

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    Quote Posted by aoibhghaire (here)
    US Congressman blows UAP SECRECY out of the water.

    US Congressman Tim Burchett shoots at Pentagon with both barrels about UAP secrecy with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell.

    Burchett backs down from nobody…

    Wake me up when they start talking about time travel or mention the "Nordic" base in Antarctica.
    "Earth is currently restricted today for normal development of timeline progress. With us telling you everything would change everything."

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    THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: WOULD-BE UAP WHISTLEBLOWERS OFFERED DIRE WARNING FROM U.S. SECURITY CLEARANCE ORGANIZATION

    Clearance Jobs, an organization that defines itself as “the largest career network for professionals with federal government security clearance,” has issued an apparent letter of guidance that also serves as a chilling warning to any industry or government insiders who are considering coming forward as UAP whistleblowers with evidence of their work with non-human craft and their pilots.

    https://thedebrief.org/the-empire-st...-organization/

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    THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: WOULD-BE UAP WHISTLEBLOWERS OFFERED DIRE WARNING FROM U.S. SECURITY CLEARANCE ORGANIZATION

    Clearance Jobs, an organization that defines itself as “the largest career network for professionals with federal government security clearance,” has issued an apparent letter of guidance that also serves as a chilling warning to any industry or government insiders who are considering coming forward as UAP whistleblowers with evidence of their work with non-human craft and their pilots.

    https://thedebrief.org/the-empire-st...-organization/
    If I was on the fence about blowing the whistle, I doubt that letter would be a deterrent. In fact, I see that letter as someone being scared of losing their power. That would empower me more to come forward.

    But that is me.

    Hopefully those who are ready to blow the whistle on things are like me in that way.

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    “Mr. Grusch is prepared to start giving evidence about that point. This is why they’re panicking.” - Ross Coulthart
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    White House NSC Coordinator Admiral John Kirby on Senator Schumer's UAP legislation.

    Observation:

    Kirby is a major factor (front) in the continuing public process of positioning the Executive Branch in staunch denial.

    His decision and statement to ‘not talk about the legislation’ at the press conference is a clear indication he can’t deal with the specificity of language concerning NHI - advanced technology, etc and how Presidents would manage the appointments on the 9 member citizen REVIEW BOARD.

    Bottom line - they are petrified about using the E-WORD. They’ve said everything else but…

    The disclosure progress has moved forward so rapidly since 2017 compared to the snail‘s pace of the last 75 years. It appears little will abate it.

    The Senate position is very clear. They want to appear proactive and bi-partisan on the issue. This ‘appearance’ of Senate unity is non-trivial.

    In contrast, the US Air Force and the Executive Branch mode of reasoning on this issue is still something out of the stone age.

    This legislation will definitively help move things forward and perhaps force the Executive Branch out of the corner they’ve painted themselves into. No question…

    UPDATE: Its just confirmed from congressman Burchett’s office that the hearing will be in the capital building and not anywhere else.

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    BOMBSHELL! UFO evidence disclosure hearing set for Congress | Redacted with Clayton Morris



    "Is Congress about to finally give us real UFO disclosure? Dr. Michael Salla discusses the draft version of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Disclosure Act of 2023 that will be inserted into National Defense Authorization Act for 2024. This may give us a clue about what the U.S. intends to do with otherworldly technology in a secret space program so that they can stay well ahead of China for years to come. "

    A bit concerning to hear from Michael Salla that the Review Board gets to decide what information will be released to the public and what will remain classified. Hmmmm, isn't that where we are at the moment?
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    BOMBSHELL! UFO evidence disclosure hearing set for Congress | Redacted with Clayton Morris



    "Is Congress about to finally give us real UFO disclosure? Dr. Michael Salla discusses the draft version of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Disclosure Act of 2023 that will be inserted into National Defense Authorization Act for 2024.
    ...
    One of the things I believe Dr. Salla said was that the bill will require companies and individuals to surrender any artifacts they have that can be associated with non-human intelligences. He was excited because he saw it as a means of getting defense contractors to release information about the craft they are building. The pessimist in me is concerned about this because it will also require individual citizens to surrender any artifacts they have. That means the government can gather everything and hide it. I know for certain that Linda Moulton Howe has extraterrestrial artifacts in her possession. They will take that from her and it could potentially be lost forever.
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    Reflections on the Eve of the House UFO Hearing (07-25-23)

    "After doing a five-minute interview with a cable news network, Need to Know co-host Bryce Zabel just kept the Zoom recording, and talked about his feelings for fifteen minutes. There are no fancy camera moves or editing here. It's just Bryce talking to camera and letting it rip."

    Bryce confirms David Grusch will be talking under oath tomorrow. I wish there was an agenda for the public. I anticipate a few meanderings before things get interesting (like Parliamentary hearings in the UK), but nevertheless I will be there for the duration. I'm particularly looking forward to hearing about any new technology (although realistically that will probably come much later) but feel that if there was anything mega, like scalar weapons for instance, they would have been used on Russia by now.


    Tim Burchett announces the witnesses at: 0.20-1.47
    David Grusch
    David Fravor
    Ryan Graves

    Previous livestream link has been cancelled, but here's a link to another:
    https://www.space.com/ufos-congress-...ream-july-2023
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    Richard Dolan's thought about today's congressional hearings.

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    I'm a little disappointed at the lack of public reaction to the official testimonies especially as there has been mention of this meeting in mainstream media.

    Unfortunately there was no announcement of further public UFO Whistleblower Meetings, and most of the nitty gritty questions were consigned to the SCIF which we may never get to hear about.

    Why didn't Michael Herrera testify, for instance, or any of the military personnel who've spoken out in Steven Greer's presentations?

    Here's Ross Coulthart and Bryce Zabel's comment following that meeting:

    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

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    I'm a little disappointed at the lack of public reaction to the official testimonies especially as there has been mention of this meeting in mainstream media.
    I am not surprised. I am glad you pointed that out. Most people in real life I have spoken to are not even aware of these hearings, and really do not care. I'm serious.

    The public in general have been Gaslit every which way but Sunday for the past 3 years, hit with everything but the kitchen sink, most are facing legitimate everyday living survival fears, the number of things - Covid, George Floyd, The Jabs, people forced to take jabs or have no job and they had families to feed, BLM, riots, elections not credible and accepted, political persecution, soaring inflation, Rainbow flags, the attack on children, climate instability, mass migration and open borders, and I do not think I have even half covered it all.

    People are exhausted, stressed, mistrustful of anything coming from "authority"; dealing with more sudden deaths than usual, the surge in crime, violence, drug addiction, suicides. Double standards in the justice system, governments overturning the rule of law.

    The vast majority of people are utterly exhausted and overwhelmed with no attention left to even care. Those that are not struggling financially are only interested in protecting their assets against the looming financial crash.

    So the timing of this is very interesting. At this stage, the very last thing the average person is even remotely interested in, is aliens.

    Had they done all this during the Trump era before 2020, I am very sure more people would have paid attention, engaged and responded.

    As it is, anything that comes out from"officialdom" these days gets very little traction because most people have had enough of it all. They just want to live their lives and that is exponentially harder to do now.

    In my humble opinion.
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