Airforce General backs Grusch that Aliens and crashed saucers exist

[NASA Apollo Cartographer]

Airforce General backs David Grusch's UFO/Aliens release of information. I am retired from the 'National Geospatial Agency'. The following letter from an Air Force General John J.Allen in support to David Grusch who is also from the 'National Geospatial Agency'. David Grusch has been given permission by the US Government to tell the public that UFOs and Aliens do in fact exist and we have retrieved many crashed saucers and bodies ; however he will and cannot reveal certain classified information at this time, this will be a slow release since the public will be in somewhat of a shock...(that doesn't apply to me, as I have studied the subject for decades and knew a long time ago that they are real).

I watched a + hours long televised Congressional hearing on UFOs and Aliens, with whistle blower and protected witnesses on 7/27/2023; including David Grusch. Congress has made it clear that the cover up and secrecy will come to a stop, and inform the public which has a right to know and the DoD has given David Grusch the lead. Without any doubt this is the most historical moment in the entirety of man's history on this planet, followed by the NASA Apollo program that put man on the Moon.

This is going to be a real shock on much of the public world wide; more details will be coming forth in a slow release that we have been visited by aliens from another planet or dimension, and likely both to travel great distances in a short time. There are multiple alien races now visiting this planet.

I cannot get a copy to paste here from Reddit, so go to this Reddit link for the full comments made by Major General John A. Allen Jr. - a United States Air Force major general who serves as the commander of the Air Force Installation and Mission Support Center.

Enjoy, 'NASA Apollo Cartographer'

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/commen...al_details_in/

[Tintin]

Many thanks for sharing this. Attached screen images saved from Reddit:

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

That is...pretty compelling.

I so rarely give stock to random posters on Reddit, 4chan, 8kun -- but boy, from this I get a bit of a tingle. There's sincerity in these words, and candour, authenticity, and I think, urgency.

We could seriously be on the verge here.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by NASA Apollo Cartographer (here)
The following letter from an Air Force General John J.Allen in support to David Grusch who is also from the 'National Geospatial Agency'.

The Reddit poster (J. Allen) states he's a 'current aero-engineer'. No mention that he's a General, and it's a little hard to imagine such a senior USAF officer posting on Reddit.

Here's Air Force Major General John J. Allen Jr. He's also an engineer, and poster J. Allen's '26 years and still going' might fit in his long and detailed bio.

• https://af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/...ohn-j-allen-jr

The Reddit thread intro states

Many online sleuths believe the comment to have been made by Major General John A. Allen Jr. (But the Wiki link cited leads to John J. Allen Jr, so the 'A' might have been a typo.)

Based on what I've seen so far, I'd rather doubt that. (But whoever Reddit poster 'J. Allen' is, his statements are solid and very persuasive.)

Did the Reddit poster state definitively at any point that this man is who he is?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Doubt its him too. I don't see a General posting this.

There's nothing particularly revealing in the post though, nothing we hadn't heard before (including Zodiac). The main revelation is that Grusch is part of a controlled release of information, and there's more coming down the line -- including some shocking revelations. It seems consistent with everything "official" we've seen and heard so far (and what we can read between the lines), from the hearing yesterday and from Grusch's own lips. Either way, I think this poster is quite possibly legit, whoever's behind it.

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by Tintin (here)
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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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The total number of active duty US General Officers is capped at 231 for the US Army, 62 for the US Marine Corps, 198 for the US Air Force, and 162 for the US Navy.

• How many of these 653 active US Generals are on "our side" (the people, upholding the oath) and how many are completely (willfully or unwillingly) slave to the Deep State serving a hijacked corrupted mafia type system?

Let's say 1 out of 10 or even 1 out of 20 ... is enough to ignite a chain reaction of events coming months, NO DOUBT of that ... and some of them may pose as a "whistler blower" but is part of a scheme to control the narrative serving a specific agenda! ... It is up to all of us to figure out who is who and practicing discernment skills which can never be spoon-fed by any so-called "authority" on anything.

• Maybe we can create a joint open letter to all of them Asking specific, astute, way above average questions!

• If only 1 of the 653 active US Generals respond back with new insights that turned out to be correct AND helpful, it is worth our effort! ... If there are more than one responding that way, we did something super important to speed up the Authentic UFO/UAP Disclosure Process that is beyond the sold (pushed) narratives of all mainstream media combined!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[Casey Claar]

I just have the state the obvious. "J. Allen", possibly alluding to J. Allen Hynek? ( who, yes, I know has passed on ).

[Patient]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Doubt its him too. I don't see a General posting this.

There's nothing particularly revealing in the post though, nothing we hadn't heard before (including Zodiac). The main revelation is that Grusch is part of a controlled release of information, and there's more coming down the line -- including some shocking revelations. It seems consistent with everything "official" we've seen and heard so far (and what we can read between the lines), from the hearing yesterday and from Grusch's own lips. Either way, I think this poster is quite possibly legit, whoever's behind it.

One thing that we (those of us that have researched this type of material for a long time), is that these messages are not for us - they are for those people who are ignorant on the subject.

Same as the hearing on UAPs with Grusch - this is to help bring this topic to EVERYONE.

So what is our purpose in this passing of old news? We need to pass it along to everyone else. The MSM isn't really doing it yet, but the whistle blowers and some people from the government are providing info for us to disseminate amongst the world's population.

Many people say "It's the CIA controlling the narrative."

Sure, I bet they are. And some people say that why are they holding back and not talking about free energy and the evolution of the spiritual side?

Well, if they did that they would quickly lose their audience.

This message from General or whoever he is seems to me as a very important message - he is telling people to take it in piece by piece - slowly.

Now, this happened to me - and maybe it happened to some of you. I have always believed in UFOs and ETs. But when that moment came to me that unequivocally proved to me the reality of both ETs and UFOs, I was messed up for about 2 weeks.

Now imagine if the majority of the world's population went through that all at the same time? That could be really bad.

It is going to take some time for the world's population to catch up to most of us.

And maybe some people here who believe in UFOs haven't experienced that moment themselves yet.

[grapevine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FCxw0bK1y6A

A scant 5 minute video from Richard Dolan who thinks Grusch may suffer a few blows to his credibility as a result of his recent testimony. Unlike Fravor and Graves, who are both pilots and reporting on what they've witnessed David Grusch is actually going after the rogue element, and for that he may be taken down by this subversive element. Hope not as it's taken a lot for him to come forward.

[Rawhide68]

Interesting read, just a ?

He states "Grush" (my USAF brother).."
But He's last name is spelled "Grusch".

So if this x person says
"he was so brotherly with him, he should know how to spell his name.

Maybe in USA, it's not a big deal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_...eblower_claims

Ps I love the Avalon Forum Icons



Ds

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
That is...pretty compelling.

I so rarely give stock to random posters on Reddit, 4chan, 8kun -- but boy, from this I get a bit of a tingle. There's sincerity in these words, and candour, authenticity, and I think, urgency.

We could seriously be on the verge here.

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I tend to agree Mark, i like what i read, (Reddit posts) i want to believe all this, but it read more like something a civilian would say, the wording and sentence structure didnt appear to be high up military talk, but im still wanting this to happen, ive been looking into the whole ufo thing since a boy and ive had quite a few experiences myself, 3 of those were incredible, ill never forget what ive seen.

RRR

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
Interesting read, just a ?

He states "Grush" (my USAF brother).."
But He's last name is spelled "Grusch".

So if this x person says
"he was so brotherly with him, he should know how to spell his name.

Maybe in USA, it's not a big deal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_...eblower_claims

Ps I love the Avalon Forum Icons



Ds

Yeah but "Grush" could be "spell check" , Grush actually means to crush/crumble, and there is a kids gaming toothbrush called the Grush, and his name was spelt "Grush" here also.

Members of Congress hear bombshell testimony during ...

CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com › ... › Local News
21 hours ago — The most unheard of suggestions at the hearing came from David Charles Grush, a former Pentagon intelligence official who made much the same.

So its possible that Grusch were spelt in correctly due to "auto spell correct" ant not through ignorance.

RRR

[ExomatrixTV]

• c-span.org/video/?529499-1/hearing-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena (now with added text captions)

[Parsi-X]

What do you all feel the poster is alluding to as shocking? and that the revelations will potentially have psychological ramifications of said 'disclosures' ... many of us feel this in our gut and our DNA... recently I have been getting an awful churning in my gut for the last few days... and in my soul i feel the truth is not going to go down well with the masses.

[boja]

Firstly :- He seems Genuine to me, but that remains to be seen.

Regarding "Shocking Revelations" to come :- (In my Humble Opinion)
I DON'T foresee anything that will send many of us here on Bill's "AVALON Forum" into psychological meltdown.

Personally, I don't have a problem with "Aliens" - benevolent, malevolent, or otherwise.
What I find Disgusting (not to mention - a Crime against all of Humanity), is the "Cover Up".

(Of course I could be wrong), but I believe that most of us here, together with a certain % of the world populace can & will handle the Truth, whatever it may be.

That said, I DO believe that the TRUTH will be quite startling to many.
To be honest, & Sadly from almost 80 years of experience, I've come to regard most of the world populace as dead from the neck up.
I can only believe that for these people, the Truth will indeed be a big shock.

Let's hope that it all goes smoothly, and we can only try to assist people who may struggle with it.
(Assuming that I live that long) !!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by boja (here)
That said, I DO believe that the TRUTH will be quite startling to many.

This is the thing I'm stuck on, I still haven't worked it out.

Their stranglehold on power -- meaning the Deep State, and the secrecy apparatus it consists of -- is contingent on the ignorance of the masses. Disclosure totally threatens that. It's why the cover up exists in the first place. So how/why is this happening?

When people learn the truth, that they've been lied to all these years about UFOs, aliens, secret programs (a la Area 51) what you're essentially saying to them is: THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG.

What do you think that will do to them?

😟 😲 🤬

-- This will then open the way for a mass-awakening, and to OTHER conspiracy theories being true!

Basically, the entire house of cards collapses at this point, and there's no rebuilding it. For them, it's over. OVER.

Either they really have lost control behind the scenes and are NOT now pulling the strings, or disclosure is some sort of side hustle, all part of the [insidious] plan.

I can't get my head around this but...maybe Wernher von Braun was right:

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[grapevine]

I think that Arwen has said on another thread, the masses are despondent because of their day to day struggles - heaped upon them by their puppet governments - and are too wrapped up in their own woes to take on the burden of the invasion of ETs. Having said that, I'm still wondering about that element and Disclosure. I mean, why bother to introduce the possibility of an invasion? Why not just let it happen out of the blue for more shock value? And what of the ETs themselves? If bona fide, and far more advanced technologically than we are, are they willing to be the patsies that bring down the world? Maybe, if the ptb are already of alien origin.