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    https://twitter.com/GenFlynn/status/1668395250044268547

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    Marjorie Taylor Green on Gab:

    "The FBI redacted and hid the existence of 17 audio recordings.

    The FBI refuses to allow the American people to see the unclassified 1023 form on the $5 million bribe.

    The FBI is protecting Biden.

    Who is protecting the man who holds the 17 recordings?"


    Gab link includes Grassley video:
    https://gab.com/repmtg/posts/110533667057339145
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    https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status...250759169?s=20


    That blue highlighted part seems to describe something I encountered over 35 years ago.

    When I heard about it. I was sharing a small bunk bed room with a Nigerian, if you know what I mean. The fact that I was sharing that room with him means he got caught, right ?

    He was running through various versions of the lies he would tell in court, and trying them out on me to see where the weaknesses were. It was intense. As a result, I came to learn a lot about raw criminal intent and it's evolution into the computer age.

    It was very early days of computers. A crime gang had some software that could intercept bank transfer data and pass money through thousands of bank accounts in a very short time, probably only seconds but I don't exactly know that detail. At that time, law enforcement didn't have a matching method of tracking it. I'll guess the NSA could track the raw signals though, but they wouldn't be involved until someone in law enforcement thought of asking them to help, I guess.

    The guy I was with was the bag man who went to the final account at the end of the chain, to draw out the money and run. One day, the cops were there waiting for him and that was the end of that.

    Relating that to the Biden money, my guess is that the NSA or the Q group have it all. Until Hillary lost the 2016 election, I don't suppose they expected to lose control of the ability to track that kind of stuff.

    IF, they have had it all, all the time, that suggests to me that the recent news about the recordings is really only a signal that they are now, finally, ready to make a move.
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    Interesting comment by Tom Numbers, and Happy Birthday President Trump.

    JUAN O SAVIN- BIRTHDAY WISHES TO PRESIDENT TRUMP ! - Tom Numbers 6 14 2023

    JUAN O SAVIN PRESENTATIONS
    14 June 2023


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v2rntcg
    In hoc signo vinces / In this sign thou shalt conquer

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    Hmmm? No new posts since mid June? Color me surprise most "Q" followers didn't seem to notice that Elon Musk recently changed his symbol to the "X" on his formerly Twitter purchase. I guess most miss that the "X" is the symbol in Freemasonry for the 17th degree Knights of the East and West.

    "One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest."
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    Hmmm? No new posts since mid June? Color me surprise most "Q" followers didn't seem to notice that Elon Musk recently changed his symbol to the "X" on his formerly Twitter purchase. I guess most miss that the "X" is the symbol in Freemasonry for the 17th degree Knights of the East and West.

    "One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest."

    Maybe you can review the thread, "Twitter - New masonic logo", and you'll see why nobody's brought it up in this Q thread. (Reminder to those interested: there is no QAnon. Probably cooked up by the CIA, that term most likely came from the Deep State like the term, Alt-Right, to color rational folks with rational inquiry as crazy cultists. There's Q and there's the anons.)

    To save you some time, you can begin here where the thread starts to get good lol:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1569084

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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Hmmm? No new posts since mid June? Color me surprise most "Q" followers didn't seem to notice that Elon Musk recently changed his symbol to the "X" on his formerly Twitter purchase. I guess most miss that the "X" is the symbol in Freemasonry for the 17th degree Knights of the East and West.

    "One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest."

    Maybe you can review the thread, "Twitter - New masonic logo", and you'll see why nobody's brought it up in this Q thread. (Reminder to those interested: there is no QAnon. Probably cooked up by the CIA, that term most likely came from the Deep State like the term, Alt-Right, to color rational folks with rational inquiry as crazy cultists. There's Q and there's the anons.)

    To save you some time, you can begin here where the thread starts to get good lol:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1569084
    Thanks. Did I say Qanon anywhere?
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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Hmmm? No new posts since mid June? Color me surprise most "Q" followers didn't seem to notice that Elon Musk recently changed his symbol to the "X" on his formerly Twitter purchase. I guess most miss that the "X" is the symbol in Freemasonry for the 17th degree Knights of the East and West.

    "One thing is for sure: The Masonic Order uses the X not only for the revelatory 17th degree of Knights of East and West, but for others as well. In the Royal Arch's Super-Excellent Master's Degree, the First Sign given is the crossing of the hands over the breast/chest."

    Maybe you can review the thread, "Twitter - New masonic logo", and you'll see why nobody's brought it up in this Q thread. (Reminder to those interested: there is no QAnon. Probably cooked up by the CIA, that term most likely came from the Deep State like the term, Alt-Right, to color rational folks with rational inquiry as crazy cultists. There's Q and there's the anons.)

    To save you some time, you can begin here where the thread starts to get good lol:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1569084
    Thanks. Did I say Qanon anywhere?

    You're welcome. And, no, you didn't. My bracketed message wasn't directed to you. It was a "reminder to those interested". I'll endeavor to be more clear next time. Every single time I come onto this so-called "QAnon" thread, I just feel compelled to spell out the difference between "QAnon" and Q and the anons.

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    I only post here when it's current and clearly related to the Q op or the disinformation still active against it (Qanon op to trash the Q info in general without ever referencing Q content directly)

    https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousLMC/...113987585?s=20

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    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...826471936?s=20

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    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...826471936?s=20


    Well, they're saying Q and not Q+. Anyone who's even partially into this topic knows there's (supposedly) a difference between Q and Q+ (Q being someone from Q -- military intelligence, and Q+ being President Trump). Of course, it is also possible that Trump is playing both Q and Q+. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

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    https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousLMC/...617209344?s=20



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    Quote Both
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    (former Director, DIA) and ADM Rogers (former DIRNSA) were in charge of organizations responsible for providing military intelligence to our warfighters and senior decision makers.

    They made sure President
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    Thanks mountain-jim, for resharing that Q Post.
    I watched this interview snippet yesterday and thought of the information coming through the Q posts.
    There are some very curious correlations happening recently... she sounds quite Qanonish.

    Quote Jan Halper-Hayes, who sits on a TaskForce for the Department of Defense Talks Trumps Subpoena Power and EO 13848- How the DoD & Trump Has All the Goods on the 2020 Election… The US is a BANKRUPT CORPORATION - SPACE FORCE

    “They’ve made a HUGE HUGE mistake with this one… Because even though they thought what was gonna happen was that they were going to go after him for treason or sedition, but they did criminally charge him, but they didn’t go to that extreme.

    As a result, he has due process so he can subpoena people and bring things in.

    Let me say something about this 2020 election. Biden is the legitimate president, but he’s a legitimate president of what is now the BANKRUPT US CORPORATION.

    That was a treaty in 1871. On September 12, 2018… Trump created a. Executive Order. Within that, he outlined in any future elections, any kind of foreign or domestic interference, specifically for the 2020 election.

    (That EO Fam is 13848, the one Joe Biden keeps renewing).

    How did he know some of these things were going to happen?..>

    What what this has done is open the door for Trump to present his case….>

    It’s a great mistake by Jack Smith that he’s done that…

    Think about Edward Snowden & all the information he had.

    Think about the fact that our military, our Department of Defense, SPACE FORCE… if you think that they don’t have the actual real results from the election, then you’re fooling yourself….>>

    She goes on to talk about 2000 mules and the 60 court cases the media lies about that were rejected….

    “There were 3… he won 2 & lost 1, 57 were never heard because they had no standing. Standing means the person bringing the case has to claim some kind of impact or injury….>>

    I sit on a task force at the Department of Defense & they’ve got the goods. And Trump knew if he presented the evidence early of the goods early on, we’d have a Civil War & he felt that the people had to see how bad it could really get.”

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v31wx9b
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    I want to weigh in a bit on the whole, Q versus Qanon issue.

    Q posted on the chan boards. Historically, within the chan culture, anon was added to whatever moniker a particular insider/whistleblower was using, so there's MegaAnon, Ranon, CiAanon, (several of those) BDanon, and so forth.

    Then there are the anons without a signifier in front. That's regular people.

    This semantic issue of whether to refer to Q as Q or as QAnon didn't really come up until some elements of the controlled mockingbird media began trying to conflate the actual Qposts with some of the claims spinning out of anons.

    To me, it's Q, (which was a team of people, not singular, as I understand the matter) Qanon, or whatever. That semantic debate is splitting hairs to me and detracts from focusing on the actual Q posts. I don't really care how someone signifies Q, or Qanon, what I care about is the information gleaned from considering the Q posts.

    I find I lack patience for the petty semantic debate of monikers. I know even General Flynn jumped on that debate. And I wished he wouldn't have. I just shake my head. It completely misses the point, in my opinion.

    It's what average people on the street learned via their own diving in on the topics that matters. And from there, what people do with the information, how they apply it, and act on it; that's the real threat of the whole Q-Anon phenom. Regular people bypassing controlled narrative channels and thinking for themselves. This is why the controlled media hounds were sent to attack. Again, just my opinion, for what it's worth. My hope is that point doesn't get lost in the semantics side issue.
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Thanks mountain-jim, for resharing that Q Post.
    I watched this interview snippet yesterday and thought of the information coming through the Q posts.
    There are some very curious correlations happening recently... she sounds quite Qanonish.
    Hello Edina

    concerning your mention above, thepainterdoug started a thread where these curious correlations (Devolution, COG, Law of War, Space Force), have been getting discussed/amplified - just mentioning that here in case you or any Q-aware folks had not seen it.

    Thread title:
    Derek Johnson says Trump could still be the legal US President

    (I also included my above post there)
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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Thanks mountain-jim, for resharing that Q Post.
    I watched this interview snippet yesterday and thought of the information coming through the Q posts.
    There are some very curious correlations happening recently... she sounds quite Qanonish.

    Quote Jan Halper-Hayes, who sits on a TaskForce for the Department of Defense Talks Trumps Subpoena Power and EO 13848- How the DoD & Trump Has All the Goods on the 2020 Election… The US is a BANKRUPT CORPORATION - SPACE FORCE

    “They’ve made a HUGE HUGE mistake with this one… Because even though they thought what was gonna happen was that they were going to go after him for treason or sedition, but they did criminally charge him, but they didn’t go to that extreme.

    As a result, he has due process so he can subpoena people and bring things in.

    Let me say something about this 2020 election. Biden is the legitimate president, but he’s a legitimate president of what is now the BANKRUPT US CORPORATION.

    That was a treaty in 1871. On September 12, 2018… Trump created a. Executive Order. Within that, he outlined in any future elections, any kind of foreign or domestic interference, specifically for the 2020 election.

    (That EO Fam is 13848, the one Joe Biden keeps renewing).

    How did he know some of these things were going to happen?..>

    What what this has done is open the door for Trump to present his case….>

    It’s a great mistake by Jack Smith that he’s done that…

    Think about Edward Snowden & all the information he had.

    Think about the fact that our military, our Department of Defense, SPACE FORCE… if you think that they don’t have the actual real results from the election, then you’re fooling yourself….>>

    She goes on to talk about 2000 mules and the 60 court cases the media lies about that were rejected….

    “There were 3… he won 2 & lost 1, 57 were never heard because they had no standing. Standing means the person bringing the case has to claim some kind of impact or injury….>>

    I sit on a task force at the Department of Defense & they’ve got the goods. And Trump knew if he presented the evidence early of the goods early on, we’d have a Civil War & he felt that the people had to see how bad it could really get.”
    /

    Jordan's comments about this (not saying he's right or wrong)

    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...96509775110144



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    Interesting segment on "GBNews" featuring Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes, but something about this makes me uneasy.

    She brings up some good points, but there's a few odd narratives she injects into the conversations. I get the feeling she's well meaning, but maybe watching too much Charlie Ward or Derek Johnson clickbait.


    And I'm seeing some people assume she's some sort of insider, but she's likely not. Highly unlikely a real "insider" would be going on public TV saying these things. And while she was on Trump's transition team back in 2016, I can't find anything about her currently being on a D.O.D. Task Force.

    Could be that GBNews brought her on because they knew she'd work some quirky narratives into the conversation that they could then use to attack. GBNews looks like a rebranded mainstream media outlet for Britian, kind of like NewsNation is for America. Same girl, different party dress sort of thing.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    (as I replied in Q thread)

    Jordan's comments about this (not saying he's right or wrong)

    https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/s...96509775110144



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    Quote Jordan Sather
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    Interesting segment on "GBNews" featuring Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes, but something about this makes me uneasy.

    She brings up some good points, but there's a few odd narratives she injects into the conversations. I get the feeling she's well meaning, but maybe watching too much Charlie Ward or Derek Johnson clickbait.


    And I'm seeing some people assume she's some sort of insider, but she's likely not. Highly unlikely a real "insider" would be going on public TV saying these things. And while she was on Trump's transition team back in 2016, I can't find anything about her currently being on a D.O.D. Task Force.

    Could be that GBNews brought her on because they knew she'd work some quirky narratives into the conversation that they could then use to attack. GBNews looks like a rebranded mainstream media outlet for Britian, kind of like NewsNation is for America. Same girl, different party dress sort of thing.

    I'd have thought I would have heard about Jordan Sather by now, but I don't know anything about him. And, he comes out almost making fun of people's assumption that Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes (who I've also never heard of before) is an "insider" (although he admits she has worked on Trump's transition team back in 2016).

    Another problem I have with Jordan Sather is his inference that Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes is saying some "odd" things that sound related to Charle Ward and Derek Johnson material -- meaning what, exactly? He lumps Charlie Ward and Derek Johnson together and calls them "clickbait" -- again, meaning what, exactly? That Derek is a misinformation "clickbait" agent? I don't listen to Charlie Ward because what little I know about him, I steer clear. I find it interesting that Jordan would lump Derek in with Charlie. In my opinion, that conveniently smears Derek. So, basically, I'd ignore anything Jordan Sather has to say.

    As for Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes, the one thing she said that didn't ring right with me is her saying Joe Biden is the legitimate President. Sure, the USA is a bankrupt corporation (being bankrupt is bad enough), but the USA was underhandedly turned into a corporation some time back. So, technically, were there any real presidents after that? (The last real president of the USA was, supposedly, back when it was still a Republic in the late 1800s. Related note: thanks to Trump in his first term, the USA is no longer under the Crown. If I got this right, it looks like Trump made himself the first legit president of the US [Republic] in a very long time.) Anyway, I don't buy that Biden is a legitimate anything. Let's say he's the "real Biden"... How globalists stealing an election for him and installing him as their puppet makes him legitimate is beyond me. If anything, Biden is actually "Central Casting", and he's just a legitimate actor doing a great job of waking everyone up by placing the country on the path to destruction. Did I just say that? Welcome to modern-day counter-intelligence warfare.

    Anyway, Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes did say that Trump created an executive order on September 12, 2018, that specifically addressed foreign and domestic interference in elections in advance of the 2020 presidential election (because he knew it was going to happen [again]). So, if she knows about that, then she must know about CIC Trump and that Trump is still, technically, the President. Maybe, she's just playing stupid because she's been told not to let the cat out of the bag.

    In my opinion, Donald Trump Jr. does the same thing and plays stupid. It's like there are certain individuals helping to expose what's going on to the "normies" but only to a point because it's still necessary to run protective cover for Trump (and the military) so the Plan to get the country back on track can run unimpeded and make it all appear natural and spontaneous enough not to spark a civil war.
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    hmmm...

    This is Donald Trump on Truth Social, recommending that people watch the Jan Halper-Hayes interview.

    Quote Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes is fantastic. Everyone has got to watch her interview on election fraud with the poor sap who got taken apart by her. Thank you Don Jr. for putting this masterpiece out for the public to see. WITCH HUNT!
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    hmmm...

    This is Donald Trump on Truth Social, recommending that people watch the Jan Halper-Hayes interview.

    Quote Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes is fantastic. Everyone has got to watch her interview on election fraud with the poor sap who got taken apart by her. Thank you Don Jr. for putting this masterpiece out for the public to see. WITCH HUNT!
    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...45227764397486

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    Well, what do you know! And, what I find really interesting is that the video version Trump shares has Don Jr. at the beginning... I didn't realize he was involved in all this when I made the following comment earlier today:

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    Anyway, Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes did say that Trump created an executive order on September 12, 2018, that specifically addressed foreign and domestic interference in elections in advance of the 2020 presidential election (because he knew it was going to happen [again]). And, she also mentioned that Trump stepped out in front of the Queen (USA no longer under the Crown). So, if Dr. Halper-Hayes knows about those things, then she must know about CIC Trump and that Trump is still, technically, the President. Maybe, she's just playing stupid because she's been told not to let the cat out of the bag.

    In my opinion, Donald Trump Jr. does the same thing and plays stupid. It's like there are certain individuals helping to expose what's going on to the "normies" but only to a point because it's still necessary to run protective cover for Trump (and the military) so the Plan to get the country back on track can run unimpeded and make it all appear natural and spontaneous enough not to spark a civil war.
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