Posted by Rayne T.
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Posted by Peace of Mind
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Posted by Rayne T.
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Posted by Peace of Mind
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Posted by Rayne T.
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Posted by Peace of Mind
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Well, speaking from my experience and a few others close to me… I/we have never been better physically as well as mentally once we stopped consuming death. I sleep a lot less (about 4 to 5 hours daily) and have plenty of energy to do all the average everyday deeds. It’s been over a decade since I’ve killed anything or eating something that clearly shows me it doesn’t want to be eating. IMO, when you live off of the Land/Earth, you are taking what mother Earth has provided for you. Meat is the flesh of animals (like you). It is not a necessity; it’s a con to keep your frequency low. Eating death/animal flesh becomes you…and your environment…due to the mentality cultivated by negative consumption. You might not see this as being wrong simply because of conditioning; you’re use to the craving and taste. You are what you eat…
Logically, digesting negative energy can’t be good…
We can live without it, we can easily substitute it. We are intelligent creatures who can make that choice (unlike other Earthly inhabitants). We are being tested daily in every way. It will be our commitments to pro-life, our decisions on how we co-exist with all other sentient beings that will be very important. Would you like it if some creature ate your child and/or your parents, how will that make you feel? I strongly believe the planet has been rapped of most of its vegetation (on land and in sea). This was probably done on purpose or thru a catastrophic event…causing famine and a taste for blood/flesh for all Earthly creatures. Maybe this is one of the reasons why some think we are in the last days…our way of living is not living…its hypocrisy.
Peace
The positive health changes you experienced sounds like the same changes I experienced when I quit the vegetarian diet, and began to add raw meat and raw fat to my diet. My energy is awesome! You say that meat is not a necessity, however I would have died without it. I don't know if you read my opening post to this thread, but I explain that.
I disagree with you when you say that the other creatures on this planet aren't intelligent. They lack linear thought processes, but they are actually quite intelligent. They have "knowing" rather than collected information. This is something we need more of.
Actually I don't eat meat because of conditioning, but because of what I have experienced and learned. I was vegetarian before I changed over to the primal diet, so my conditioning was for vegetarianism.
I have a different but similar belief to yours....I believe that we are being steered toward vegetarianism because of it's detrimental health effects. Beans, grains, nuts, and seeds - the vegetarian sources of proteins are all difficult to digest and lead to debilitating disease. "They" don't care whether you are vegan or not as long as you are eating unhealthy food that will eventually destroy your mind and body. In fact, it seems obvious to me that when it comes to the abuse and pollution going on in factory farms, "they" are being quite opportunistic. Get the public clamoring to end the abuse and pollution so that they can take away an extremely healthy source of food - meat. Not saying that factory farmed meat is healthy. I am saying that they will use that to get all meat eating banned.
Hi there, Rayne T...
I see where you're coming from...and going.
I used to play football, so I was always a health nut. What I and a few others I know experienced was more of a mental spiritual lifting when we decided to end our flesh eating.
I remember being told that spirits from the highest realm come to talk to you but they are hesitant when you have a certain type of energy signature…meaning the negative energy in the consumption of death/flesh. This is real to me because I’ve been involved in and witnessed some very negative things before my transition. Now I’m experiencing some beautiful things in life, my body is going through some unexplainable changes (heightened senses and possibly unlocking dormant abilities). My mind has become so vivid that most of my thoughts seem to need a complex language to explain them.
When ever I smell cooked flesh it’s nauseating. Eating flesh will most certainly make me sick because my body is cleansed of it. All my body’s cells are re-new and not one of them needs a pinch of meat to operate to their full potential.
Mostly every report giving to the masses from the FDA or any controlled institution are filled with lies. All they want to do is make you sick so they can drug you. They tell you what your body needs instead of you listening to it yourself. None of this is Rocket science…people just need to trust themselves…I can’t say that enough.
My body tells me the truth not some person who has never met me or done any health test on me. I don’t need someone with selfish plans to inform me on how to take care of myself. My mind, body and soul are thankful for that. What I write here is my testimony; but, it might mean something to someone who is considering a change in their energy field.
I know animals are intelligent species; it’s unfortunate that most humans don’t have the capacity or patience to learn from them.
As I said in an earlier post I’m prepared to die before I put another piece of dead flesh inside God’s temple. Death is no stranger to me. Seen it and almost became it. I don’t fear it one bit because we will meet in due time…so I will live in complete LIFE until then. Fear is not a part of me; I actually despise (lack of a better word) cowards, because they hinder the WHOLE by being hesitant in doing their part. Maybe people have too much fear because that is part of the energy they consume from meat….how were the animals feeling before they were killed for food? I actually feel sorry for the ones that do fear death...they will have no problem taking another innocent life just to save their own, when it probably should be the other way around. The global conditioning has been efficient…as well as damaging.
We are only going to be living for a minute, so I’ve learned to not fear the inevitable. Life here is temporary, my existence out of this body matters more to me than what I do while occupying it,temporarily. In other words…this is part of my preparation for that unavoidable journey outside of the meat suit we’re currently carrying. So, I’m glad for my being as you should be for yours…
I’m not here to convince anyone, but to leave something to ponder for those that are interested. After all…the choice has always been yours…that’s what this school called Earth is all about…
Peace
Hi, thanks for your post. I don't eat cooked meat. Cooked is certainly dead. I eat meat raw, that 's what the raw primal diet is based on- that and raw fats, veggies, fruits, and unheated honey.
I can say that I have a pretty clear clean connection with my High Self and guides now, none of the fear and negativity that you are imagining. No disrespect intended, but you have some beliefs and emotional charges around these issues. You say you "despise" cowards, and you sound very judgemental - this is projection.
Love and Light, Rayne
Hi, Rayne T,
Meat is dead. It came from an animal that was once enjoying life with its family and friends...correct me if I’m wrong. Sorry if you take offence to the 2 words in one of my posts. But there really is no other (accurate) way to describe people willing to eat innocent but are reluctant to face their known enemy. We know why we are in the predicament we’re in, and we know it isn’t cows/pigs/chicken ruining the world. You call it judgmental, I call it excuses. Every creature materialized here on this planet for a reason, even the Great roach….which have been here for millennia and hasn’t destroyed a thing…but most humans despised them. If any of these creatures were meant for you to eat they would glady hope on your dinner plate.
Since we're here chewing the fat, answer this if you don't mind? Out of all the species on this planet…which one is not really doing their job? Is this same creature building a world for the whole or for self? Until that creature/monster realizes just what it is… the world will become a wasteland before a paradise. I’m against anything holding us back from paradise…even my fellow human. I rather not be, but I have to be real with my self if I expect to make true progress. This is the way I'm wired.
Peace
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Posted by Rayne T.
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Chinaski,
If you don’t believe what I have to say that’s cool with me. And I’m definitely not going to tell you what to do. I’m just providing some insight to those that are interested. It’s not hard for me to see why you and others are dealing with certain health issues. If you think you need meat then you will…it’s really that simple. I don’t believe “I need to eat another animal or I’ll die.” If you want to, fine. I’m sure many don’t.
I’m speaking on behalf of the animals, and maybe some that are against flesh eating because of what it does (as I explained). I hope you do know at the time of these animals death they excrete toxins into the blood…which the flesh is soaked in, right?
Peace of Mind, you're prepared to die before you put meat in your body because your particular body does not require meat to be healthy. if it did, you'd be singing a different tune.
I highly doubt that. Besides, I’m not really impressed with the current state of the world to make such a selfish sacrifice anyway. So the idea of death would be more inviting than you know. I’m sure my ideas of death are very different than yours.
i'm not scared of death either, but i am scared of SUFFERING. having experienced quite a bit of it myself, and having worked in several hospitals, i believe i have the authority to speak on it. the thing is, most people don't just die immediate;y. they suffer mightily, for months and years, wasting away on hospital beds, battling bed sores, *****ing themselves, and losing their dignity in the process.
Are you even sure the doctors aren’t the ones making people sick? I wonder how many of them people know how to heal themselves, most not be many because they wouldn’t be in there in the first place. The healthcare industry is more of a biz than a lifeline. Learn to heal your body by meditation. The body is a magnificent machine. Meds don’t heal; they only assist you in tolerating the pain while the body does the rest (placebo). Pain is in the mind, its only there to tell you that there is something wrong, control the mind and you will control the pain.
There are (very graphic) vids on youtube showing a few Muslims tolerance to pain. They stick knives thru their arms, neck, mouths, and tongues. There is even one scene where one guy lodged a machete in the top of one of his brother’s head. All this was done while they sang and dance. It was a bloody display but very educational.
are you suggesting that a cancer patient whose body requried meat to heal should instead waste away for years under this misguided notion of vegetarian spiritual heroism? would he be a "coward" if he decided to save his life by consuming meat? would you "despise" him for doing so? careful, my friend, those are pretty strong words you're using there.
Again, I don’t buy the “need meat to live” theories, there are substitutes. Even the "so called" need for b12 can be found in dirt, sea plants and a can of RedBull (if you trust the FDA)…not to mentioned supplements. But I do not recommend drugs of any kind to people, I can’t even remember the last time I was sick.
you sound passionate about your vegetarian stance, and i admire that. just please, check the judgements at the mat.
Do you really see my post as being judgmental? I don’t waste time posting nonsense, and I rarely engage in small talk because there is little time for that. Every post I make here is from the heart, my intentions are pure. Sorry to see how sensitive you are about this, just imagine how the animals feel…
I doubt I’ll respond to this thread again, there really isn’t anything else to add on the subject, My post are not personal, if you take them that way…maybe you need to re-read them and/or reflect on them a bit longer. Then re-read yours. The problem might be closer than you originally thought.
Live well...
Peace
Hi, I understand your position on this, but it would help if you would read my opening thread before jumping to conclusions. I was a vegetarian when I developed all of my health problems, and was nearly dead. I'm not going to relist all of my symptoms again here, and write the entire story over again.
I also explained how I healed myself with the raw primal diet. I didn't use doctors. I believe food is our medicine. However, if a person won't eat a healthy diet for them, they do end up in hospitals - exactly what I avoided. They end up in hospitals and doctors do what they can. They can't make someone eat raw meat and raw fat, they can only try to kill microbes, viruses and try to kill tumors and cancer cells. I don't agree at all with their approach but if a person is going to insist on a bad diet, it's the only other option.
Love and Light, Rayne
It’s called adaptation. When certain animals started eating meat (due to Human ways of destroying the land) they had to change, they became SAVAGE. Everything found in meat (raw or cooked) can be found elsewhere… Tell me what’s in meat that you can’t find in the land. I’m sure I can find it for you…
Peace
I will repeat what I just posted. Here is why you can't find it for me....
"I will quote Aajonus Vonderplanitz here...
"Our intestines are 2 1/2 times shorter than most hervibores. We have only one stomach, while herbivores have 2 - 4 stomachs. Herbivores have nearly 60,000 times more enzymes than we have to disassemble cellulose (plant fiber) to obtain the fat and proteins from vegetation and grain. Vegetable fiber passes through an herbivore's digestive system in about 48 hours. In our digestive tracts, vegetables complete their journey in 24 hours. Only a fraction of the cellulose is digested. Sixty-five percent of the protein and fat are undigested." Now, considering how little protein and fat are in vegetation - if we only are able to digest 35% of it, that does and WILL ALWAYS lead to malnutrition.
"Our gastrointestinal tract is not like that of birds. Birds can eat a lot of grain and seeds and digest them with their gizzards. We do not have a gizzard or an alternative way of eating grain that is health-giving. We cannot properly digest grain for cellular reproduction and healing, EVEN IF SPROUTED. Sprouted grains are vegetables. As stated above, we do not digest vegetables well. Germinated seeds contain enxyme suppressors that prevent proper protein digestion, utilization and assimilation, causing protein deficiency."
"When humans eat a lot of fruit, they incur health problems, such as osteoporosis, toothe degeneration, anxiety, dryness, diabetes, hyperactivity, attetion deficit disorder, hyperactivity, over emotionality and temperature sensitivity. Unlike pure frugivores and herbivores, we mainly have an acidic digestive tract, including acidic bacteria that facilitate the prevention and reversal of cancer. More than a little raw high carb fruit over alkalinizes the intestines. Intestinal over akalnity destroys proper protein and fat digestion and suppresses appetite for raw meat. This destroys our ability to combine many foods and impairs the natural acidic environment of our bowels. A sugar rich environment caused by high carb fruits results in fungal problems, such as candida and other yeast infections. Eating more than a little fruit causes severe fat and protein deficiencies. In women, that causes bloating and menstrual cramps." - something that I no longer experience
"Carnivores, such as cats and dogs, mainly eat meat. Our digestive juices are most similar to carnivores. In their stomachs, the hydrochloric acid concentration is 15 times greater than in humans so that they digest meat in 10 hours (raw), which accommodates their very short intestines. Humans, however, produce an equal amount of hydrochloric acid throughout the stomach and intestines combined, allowing raw meat and other raw animal products to digest easily and efficiently in our much longer digestive tract within 16 hours. Cooked meat takes up to 36 hours and is accompanied with putrefaction, heterocyclic amines, acrylamides and lipid peroxides not found in the digestive tract when raw meats are eaten. Our teeth are designed for cutting and crushing meat with the help of our dexterous hands."
Myself, and all of the other people who are partaking of this diet have found his conclusions to be true and effective for curing and preventing disease. There has been no one, who has followed this diet who has had a negative or non - healing reaction. It has been found to affect EVERYONE the same way. No other diet, medicine, or supplement can make this claim.
Love and Light, Rayne
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