The Kordylewski Clouds + Plasma Universe

[jaybee]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by jaybee (here)
.Are the Kordylewski Clouds actually the famed Akashic Records .............. quietly sitting there on our doorstep - ??

I would suggest something like the reverse of that.

First, Akashic Records is sort of a made-up phrase without any basis. "Akasa" simply means "Space", and the Theosophical phrase that inspired "akashic records" was "impressions on the astral light".

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we will have to agree to disagree

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this... if the Kordylewski Clouds have the complex properties and potential intelligence that Robert Temple talks about -

clip of the clip on my post 15....

If what these scientists are showing - and I for one think they are - is that the internal structures of the two clouds could be so complex , and at such a vast scale, then they surpass any possible human knowledge at this time.The storage capacity for information would easily include the ability to retain full knowledge of everything that has ever happened in our local cosmic environment for four billion years.

then I think it's highly likely that people who 'visit' what is traditionally called the Akashic Records... a place where everything is recorded / imprinted... go into the Kordylewski Clouds - maybe in their plasma bodies to read the plasma memory bank...

[jaybee]

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Chapter 5 of Robert Temple's book - A New Science of Heaven - is about Ball Lightening -

on page 48 he says...

'......I am not necessarily suggesting that most ball lightening of the usual sort is intelligent, but it is also possible that some ball lightening phenomena are associated with intelligent entities, and are even 'plasmic drones' I say this because a minority of reports describe their behavior in such a way that suggests intelligent control of their movements, as they seem to be inspecting people and things, and also spotting, pursuing and entering aircraft in flight which presumably would be impossible for a mindless entity or one that was not remotely controlled by an intelligent entity as a probe...'

This short video (3:43) has footage of Ball Lightening - and at the beginning, the video creator recalls their contact with ball lightening when they were 13 yrs old - and they perceived it as having a mind and being alive...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O7j0byOXhto

[arjunaloka_official]

Hypothesis:
The Akashic records are a level of consciousness / accessible from a certain level of consciousness and timeline-complete. Robert Monroe describes it as Focus 27. It is similar to what the Hindus call "infinite ocean of consciousness", or ritambhara prajna. It helps to be in a lucid state if you want to access it. Depending on your level of consciousness, you might or might not be able to store aspects of what you read in the Akashic records and transfer it to non-lucid states.

[shaberon]

Posted by jaybee (here)
we will have to agree to disagree

I'm going with Occam's Razor on this... if the Kordylewski Clouds have the complex properties and potential intelligence that Robert Temple talks about -

In that case, it is better that the disagreement is in the plasma, rather than about Akasha.

I don't really mean to exhibit any strong stance that the clouds are lacking in memory. Just that they are physical matter. Water can be said to have a memory; sometimes homeopathic substances are described this way. Dust would perhaps be similar to a hard drive.

So far, I have mostly replied from general background knowledge, so this is where I would get to the Temple book and see what is he saying or suggesting that may be new or different. And then it can perhaps be a bit confusing if we mostly talk about plasma as "radiant matter" but the Clouds are Dark and he also says it is a Cold Plasma.

They were optically verified by observational astronomers who weren't thinking about plasma. They were just looking for dust clouds, which happen to be quite faint.


The trouble with physics then is that Dark and Cold do not necessarily have conventional meanings. Dark Matter is not necessarily matter that is black, it is something that is unknown.

And there is a running argument between Relativity and Plasma Universe because they have very different meanings.

From the view of Relativity there is the following:


Black Holes are predicted.

Dark Matter is not necessarily predicted, it may be compatible, but its conditions for existence could also be satisfied by Classical Mechanics without needing Relativity.

Dark Energy comes from the cosmological constant that is in Relativity; if it is a better explanation for Redshift, then Dark Energy would be true, and if Redshift is explainable by something else, then there is no such thing. From a few responses on the role or necessity of Relativity:


...gravitational lensing requires General Relativity for doing the calculation and still Dark Matter is needed to explain the observations.


The Clouds are said to be either Dark Matter in its entirety, or, a form of Dark Matter. So far, Relativity is not necessary.


In terms of appearance:


A plasma can in principle never be completely dark because there will be radiation emitted as the protons and electrons recombine. However, if the plasma is so dense and energetic that no individual atoms can form (like in the interior of the sun), then there won't be any recombination and radiation. Of course, towards the boundary of a plasma volume the density will become less, so there would be radiation from there, but if the plasma energy is very high (e.g. for very high masses of the plasma volume), the recombination probability becomes very small i.e. there won't be much radiation and the latter would anyway not be in the visible region but in the ultraviolet or x-ray and hence may be easily absorbed. So in this sense it is well possible that a large plasma mass at the center of galaxies might go undetected. Another point is that plasmas can be associated with currents and magnetic fields, which might explain for instance galactic rotation curves usually associated with dark matter.


Talk about something that radiates at its boundary:





In the heart of the Korean tokamak KSTAR, in operation since 2008, a plasma pulse burns brightly. But don't be fooled—the brightest areas of the photo are in fact the coolest. At 150 million °C (the temperature in the centre), the plasma doesn't emit in the spectrum of visible light.


Remember that plasma is a phenomenon of both high temperature and low pressure. Plasmas are ionized fluids, which occur either when the temperature is so high compared to atomic ionization energies, or when the fluid is so diffuse that charged particles are unlikely ever to find each other.

A common tool in ordinary vacuum systems is the cold cathode pressure gauge, which measures the pressure by measuring the conductivity of the residual gas. This sort of highly diffuse plasma is invisible.

Of course you knew that already: this is the type of plasma that makes up the interplanetary and interstellar medium, which is quite transparent.


So this would be the Diffuse variety:


This is the mode of plasma when it is basically invisible. Take an example of the solar wind, which is mostly invisible, although it becomes the Aurora when its energy causes gases to glow in the atmosphere. Stars are an example of ‘arc’ plasma and solar Corona and nebulae are generally ‘glow' mode plasma.

Dark plasma accounts from most of the plasma in the universe. Until recently it was difficult to map or image, but modern detectors and telescopes are building increasingly detailed images of the Cosmic (or InterGalactic) Web. It is a massive mesh of Birkeland current filaments which links all galaxies in a vast network.




By some clever imaging we can see a slice of cosmic Web, with light spots for each galaxy or galactic cluster. Not hard to figure this is all an enormous electrical system, which is self generating. The filaments themselves are all rotating thus providing the electro-inductive electricity needed to light the stars.



Baylor U. takes that pretty seriously:


It is now universally agreed that the majority of the universe is composed of dust. As such, most environments both on Earth and in space, contain dust in the form of solid or liquid particles with this cosmic dust crucial to the development of stars, planets and life.

NASA discusses the Dust making Grains in a massive write-up of Evolution of the Solar System.

Cold Dust in Cassiopeia A

Interacting with a white dwarf in Herculis binary systems




The Sun erupts it:


Spaceweather reports that this "dark plasma" is not dark in the sense that dark matter or dark energy are; rather, this plasma is cooler and less luminous than the background sun and denser than gas surrounding it in the sun's atmosphere.


The earth is actually in a Veil:


Clouds of "cold plasma" reach from the top of Earth's atmosphere to at least a quarter the distance to the moon...



The stuff is commonly used as a disinfectant:


Cold atmospheric-pressure plasmas are currently in use in medicine as surgical tools and are being evaluated for new applications, including wound treatment and cosmetic care. The disinfecting properties of plasmas are of particular interest, given the threat of antibiotic resistance to modern medicine. Plasma effluents comprise (V)UV photons and various reactive particles, such as accelerated ions and radicals, that modify biomolecules; however, a full understanding of the molecular mechanisms that underlie plasma-based disinfection has been lacking. Here, we investigate the antibacterial mechanisms of plasma...

Cold plasmas wind up having different names for different kinds.

They are used in foodservice.

A plasma can be "dark" and "radiant" by radiating Ultraviolet.

In the upper atmosphere it makes ozone.

Down here it stops bacteria and is extremely harmful to almost every kind of organism there is.

Dark Plasma is both vital for its impulse and absolutely deadly.

If Dust explains Redshift by causing "Tired Light" or something like that, then, the cosmological constant of Relativity is axed.

Obviously the light radiated from colored plasmas does not hurt you and is generally considered pleasing.

Memories of forms use the visible spectrum.

Memories of sounds do not.

You can have a Dark Plasma without dust, but it appears unlikely or rare to have dust without plasma.

Some Dark Plasma is just not that bright because it is not fully ionized, and other kinds are basically invisible because they emit UV.

This is the part that is new to me. It has been said for a while that the cosmos is a sea of dust, that almost all observable matter is radiant plasma, and there still seems to be some kind of Dark Matter much more than that. Lots of research went towards neutrinos in this regard, however, Dark Plasma appears to be riding on all that.

They need to establish set names for the different kinds.

It obviously is a dark energy, but that name is already in use.

Fire may or may not generate plasma; if it does:






All I claim to be familiar with is unearthly modes of light.

How these different plasma effects work is an outer knowledge that I can conceive is highly related. I don't have any better idea about the mechanism than anyone else--I would tend to agree it may be a more useful field for continued research, as opposed to resting on the laurels of Relativity from ca. 1910.

[shaberon]

Here is why this is a bit confusing and out of tune to us. First considering this accidental detection by the CIA 1972 when they were more interested in telekinesis and so i. e., weaponizable practices rather than medicine.

You can't copy off that page but you can from Archive:


By the 1960s research on bioluminescence revealed by Kirlian photography was going on in many Soviet universities. Perfected techniques of photographing the play of high-frequency currents on humans,
plants and animals, as well as on inaminate matter have set the
Soviets on some striking discoveries about the energetical nature
of man. "Bio-plasma" is a term coined by the Soviets for bioluminescent phenomenon or energy. Scientists at the Kazakh State
University at Alma-ata have found that illnesses tend to show up
in advance as a disordered play of flares from the bio-plasma
long before they manifest in the physical body.


Doctor A. Podshibyakin, an electrophysiologist at the
Institute of Clinical Physiology in Kiev, has found that by charting
acupuncture points a correlation exists between the "bio-plasma"
and changes on the surface of the sun. At the exact moment solar
flares (sun spots) occur, there are changes in the electrical
potential of the skin's acupuncture points. These electrical
charges are measured by a tobiscope (probably a simple wheatstone
bridge device). In some way, the "bio-plasma" of the body is
sensitive to these solar explosions the instant they occur even
though it takes about two days for the cosmic particles to reach
the earth.



That is about all they say about something that must have been pretty widespread and open, in this, to us, restricted foreign country.

The ideas manage to creep out into a conference in Europe 1977.


And in the west generally we have only just established the "proof of concept" stage, according to Deepak Chopra and others as described in the medical journal Global Advances 2015:


Evidence for the existence of the biofield now exists, and current theoretical foundations are now being developed. A review of the biofield and related topics from the perspective of physical science is needed to identify a common body of knowledge and evaluate possible underlying principles of origin of the biofield. The properties of such a field could be based on electromagnetic fields, coherent states, biophotons, quantum and quantum-like processes, and ultimately the quantum vacuum. Given this evidence, we intend to inquire and discuss how the existence of the biofield challenges reductionist approaches and presents its own challenges regarding the origin and source of the biofield, the specific evidence for its existence, its relation to biology, and last but not least, how it may inform an integrated understanding of consciousness and the living universe.



Although the original work was easily known in India 2012:


In a book long scientific paper published by the State University of Kazakhstan,"The Biological Essence of kirlian Effect" they described their research into the living "Energy Body":


"The bioluminescence in the Kirlian pictures is caused by the bioplasma,not the eletrical state of the organism.one of the most distinctive feaures of the vibrating,colorful energy body in all livings things is that it has a specific spatial organization."


In the photos shown by Soviet scientists it is evident that if part of the physical body of a living thing is cut away,the "bioplasmin body" remains,whole and clearly visiable in a high-frequency field.When this enegry body itself disappears,the plant or the animal dies.


"There is a strict ratio between the physical and the energy body",that Kazakh scientists reported."the energy of any living thing is made up of energy from its physical cells and the more mobile enrgy of bioplasma"..say scientists Inyushin,Grishchenko,and their colleagues.


What generates this bioplasmic energy?How do we replenish our energy body?The Kazakh Sceintistis discoverd its's the oxygen we breath that converts some of its surplus electrons and a certain quantum of energy into the enrgy body.In the silent high-frequency discharge,they could actually see this process as it occurred.


"Breathing..Charges'


Breathin- g.it seems,charges the entire bioplasmic body and renews our reserves of vital energy and helps to equalize disturbed energy patterns.Of couse,the Indian phiosophy of yoga has always maintained that breathing charges the whole body with "vital force" or "prana" and yoga prescribes specific breathing exercises for good health.


The biologists at the Kazakh State University began to understand why berathing ionized air has "a high medicinal effect for many kinds of disease".


Many Diseases were shown to begin when the supply of bioplasma deteriorated,the Soviets say.Soviets found even spraying a wound with ionized air would greatly speed healing as the negative ions healped restore the plasmic body to equilibrium.


osho said "if you observe the breath 48 minutes continuously then you will understand the truth".


This exact thing is then tied to the idea of Chakras.


Very recently a device has been invented in Romania using infra-red, radar, and electrophotography so you can mostly self-repair and "avoid going to a doctor for every reason".



So we are behind the curve, not putting serious research into the thing for fifty years. The Romanian claim is that with a properly-tuned aura you live a long time comfortably.

This "updates" molecular biology (the theory that you are governed by chemical reactions) and electro-biology (the theory that processes are driven by ordinary electrical currents). Not saying they don't exist but they are incomplete.

Plasma is a fractal from the scale of the inter-galactic braids of dust to sub-atomic processes in our bodies. It's not "math" as an abstract subject, it actually is plasma, which operates in a mathematical way.


Now, of course, we can understand that Big Medicine does not want you to figure out your own aura, because then doctors wouldn't have 90% of anything to do, and then maybe they could study medicine. No type of aura training is really going to help if you break your arm, and that is what the doctor is for, more like a medic than an industry that profits from cheating you out of your aura.


We don't have facilities and equipment that make this an everyday thing, yet, but there are a few clever people who wind up asking some of the right questions. If I am coming from a type of bias from personal experience that tells me there is at least something about electricity and light that is much more powerful in the human being than the ordinary focus on molecular forms, I don't really know how to translate this into operating mechanics in a scientifically useful way.

It looks like a good step has been put forward to do this by a personal site, Photonic Human:

Hypothesis: human microvibrations are transduced from, analogous to and/or resonantly entrained to micropulsations in the common plasma medium. Bioelectronic processes may be treated as a plasma state within the solid state of organic compounds.

The heart is our own pulsing center as the sun is that of the solar system. In The Heart’s Code, Paul Pearsall, PhD (1998) points out that “simple physics tells us that energy and information leave the body and go out into space. It reaches our loved ones and our pets and plants, it extends to the sky, and, yes, logically, the electromagnetic field expands into the “vacuum” of space at the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second. Though the signal strength will obviously be very tiny, each second after our heart beats our individual heart’s code has expanded and travelled 186,000 miles into space, through space forever.” (p. xi-xii) In this sense, perhaps we are immortal. However, waves from space also impinge upon us.

“As Above, So Below;

EM waves are our primary means of knowing and viewing the universe. We are integral products of our environment, an embedded lattice of pulsating, vibrating energy. What happens in the solar system, our electromagnetic environment, and at our cellular level are all intimately related. The classic Hermetic axiom, “As above; So below” reiterates the nonlinear fractal unfoldment of self-similar organization at different scales of magnitude, from cosmic to subatomic.

Because Earth is in a Veil, it winds up working like a big drum, it keeps getting struck by something and passing a vibration of something towards the surface where we are:

The magnetosphere itself functions as a resonant cavity and wave guide for waves that propagate through the system. These cavities resonate at discrete frequencies many of which have biological effects. The relation of magnetospheric micropulsations (Alven waves and SR) appears correlated with diurnal, circadian and other psychophysical rhythms in the human organism, in particular microvibrations.

From an energy medicine perspective, the heart is the most powerful electromagnetic organ serving important regulatory functions. An ongoing dialogue takes place between heart and brain. The heart’s EM field extends 12 to15 feet beyond the body, 50 times more powerful than the brain’s EEG signals.

The heart is our most powerful organ.
The heart responds directly to the environment.
The heart is the conductor of the energy of the body’s cells.
The heart is a dynamic system.
The heart is the body’s primary organizing force.
The heart resonates with information-containing energy.
The heart is the body system’s core.
The heart speaks and sends information.
All hearts exchange information with all other hearts and brains. (Pearsall)

Every cell in the body is linked by electromagnetic contact with the toroidal-shaped magnetic field of the heart, mirroring the relationship of Earth with its organisms. Heart rate mediates stress response and balance of the relaxation response. The connective tissue matrix, with it semiconducting and liquid crystal holographic structure, resonates with these field changes.

Cells are fractals embedded in a holographic energetic matrix that extends beyond the skin boundary. The body is an energetic event, a self-organizing electromagnetically unified matrix. The living matrix continuum or tissue tensegrity matrix reaches inside each and every cell, all systematically interconnected parts of the body, even more so than the nervous system.

Plasma is a source of all types of waves, which feed back on the plasma and display mutual correlation. The manifestations of life may be ultimately summarized in terms of plasma and radiation. The secret of life lies in process control through small energy and with minimal noise. Plasma can be controlled only through fields, in particular magnetic fields.

The plasma approach to life points out that life is electric, however, its control takes place magnetically. Plasma is revealed by the emission of an electromagnetic field and is obedient only to this field, even a very weak one. The electronic processes of metabolism may be treated as a plasma state within the solid state of organic compounds.

Plasma -- the fundamental background for the processes of life -- is maintained in a constantly agitated state of generation and decay. This magnetohydrodynamic controlled state is correlated with metabolic process, such as anabolism-catabolism and oxidation. It is notably related to physiological currents and weakly luminescent effects (biophotons; bioluminescence).

Sedlak (1993) discusses how a living organism is both an information detector and generator and a transformer of electromagnetic energy. Biological systems generate their own magnetic mediums or plasma fields. A plasma responds to magnetic and electric fields, acoustic waves, mechanical action, gravitational fields, and temperature; in addition to depending on chemical composition. Plasma is the ideal carrier system of information within living organisms because it alters its own state with exceptional selectivity and responsiveness.

The biosemiconductor, together with the drift of charges, ions, and radicals, may be considered as a form of "bioplasma". Bioplasma may be subject to magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) control. The EM fields emitted by trained healers may be considered as coherent, resonant biomagnetic emissions by which a less coherent EM field of the patient is "tuned" to the specific frequency and phase, and through which homeostasis can be "aligned" to induce "healing".“ (Roffey)

You can't do anything about the constant throughput of signals, you can only navigate it.

It sounds to me a lot like the choice why a spiritual tradition would teach that the Heart is the seat of consciousness, including emotion, and why you want to shed disturbing emotion. There is more in that article that would support this.

The end of it sounds like using machines to imitate Mesmer.

I would very nearly put it in Absolute terms, that whatever can be learned to make this work properly is the Truth, and anything that does not is a Lie. One can give true facts all day and it can still be a Lie because it is damaging to the harmony.

The research even suggested an "invisible" quantum connection to the sun by the aura's instantaneous mirror imaging. No medium of exchange. The effect of the given Rays comes later.

[wegge]

Thanks Jaybee for starting the thread!

I'm also quite blown away from the whole Plasma thing, especially since I've been totally ignorant of it until last week.

I've finished Robert's book now, but I have to say it's quite something to digest and I'll need a second run. I've now also ordered his book "Open to suggestion" which he says the CIA tried to suppress.

A very interesting synchronicity for me personally was his mentioning of Tesla and his "plasma events" which he speculates might stem from Tesla being not insulated enough from his plasma body. He references this part of Tesla's autobiography:

"I was about twelve years old when I first succeeded in banishing an image from my vision by wilful effort, but I never had any control over the flashes of light to which I have referred. They were, perhaps, my strangest experience and inexplicable. They usually occurred when I found myself in a dangerous or distressing situation, or when I was greatly exhilarated. In some instances I have seen all the air around me filled with tongues of living flame. Their intensity, instead of diminishing, increased with time and seemingly attained a maximum when I was about twenty-five years old. While in Paris, in 1883, a prominent French manufacturer sent me an invitation to a shooting expedition which I accepted.
I had been long confined to the factory and the fresh air had a wonderfully invigorating effect on me. On my return to the city that night I felt a positive sensation that my brain had caught fire. I saw a light as tho a small sun was located in it and I past the whole night applying cold compressions to my tortured head. Finally the flashes diminished in frequency and force but it took more than three weeks before they wholly subsided. When a second invitation was extended to me my answer was an emphatic NO! These luminous phenomena still manifest themselves from time to time, as when a new idea opening up possibilities strikes me, but they are no longer exciting, being of relatively small intensity.

When I close my eyes I invariably observe first, a background of very dark and uniform blue, not unlike the sky on a clear but starless night. In a few seconds this field becomes animated with innumerable scintillating flakes of green, arranged in several layers and advancing towards me. Then there appears, to the right, a beautiful pattern of two systems of parallel and closely spaced lines, at right angles to one another, in all sorts of colors with yellow-green and gold predominating. Immediately thereafter the lines grow brighter and the whole is thickly sprinkled with dots of twinkling light.

This picture moves slowly across the field of vision and in about ten seconds vanishes to the left, leaving behind a ground of rather unpleasant and inert grey which quickly gives way to a billowy sea of clouds, seemingly trying to mould themselves in living shapes. It is curious that I cannot project a form into this grey until the second phase is reached. Every time, before falling asleep, images of persons or objects flit before my view. When I see them I know that I am about to lose consciousness. If they are absent and refuse to come it means a sleepless night."

Yesterday I've also come across this brilliant interview with Joseph P. Farrell, who is about to publish his plasma book in September. He says that plasma ties together many of the topics he's written about, like the great pyramid being a weapon and also the infamous Nazi Bell/Glocke.


One of the things I'm currently pondering is how to use this whole plasma understanding for personal growth. In the beginning of Robert's interview with Jay he mentions that plasma research is merely the modern corroboration of what the ancients have been saying, and that plasma is essentially Chi. So I regard my personal Qi Gong practice as anyways a good step in that regard.

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know

[wegge]

PS:

in the book Robert also mentions biophoton research (not the same as bioluminescence) and that the only place in Europe is in Leiden/Netherlands where it's researched.

I think this is the same place that water researcher Dolf Zantinge does his research. Giving structured and regular tap water to plants and then measuring the impact on their biophotons.

In a private conversation he told me that biophoton research is more mainstream in China and they cooperate with several universities there, which I found highly interesting as well.

[jaybee]

Posted by wegge (here)

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Yesterday I've also come across this brilliant interview with Joseph P. Farrell, who is about to publish his plasma book in September. He says that plasma ties together many of the topics he's written about, like the great pyramid being a weapon and also the infamous Nazi Bell/Glocke.


One of the things I'm currently pondering is how to use this whole plasma understanding for personal growth. In the beginning of Robert's interview with Jay he mentions that plasma research is merely the modern corroboration of what the ancients have been saying, and that plasma is essentially Chi. So I regard my personal Qi Gong practice as anyways a good step in that regard.

Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know

very interesting quote you shared from the Tesla autobiography... he was so advanced with his thinking and inventions he had to be accessing something / somewhere deeper than what most people can -

thanks for the Joseph P Farrell interview - will register to that site and watch it soon...

re what you said about chi and your Qi Gong practice... if you haven't already seen this short video prepare to have your mind blown ... and your chakras excited... DJ (name invented for the Chi Master in it) must be building up, controlling and using the plasma within his own body - he explains @ 1:13 that he uses the positive energy around his naval with the negative energy around the base of his spine to 'get like electricity'

(thanks to member Szymon who brought this video to my attention in another thread a while back)

He can even set paper on fire with the (plasma) energy (@1:52)- he builds up the intensity so strong for that - it must be like the sun momentarily .. . he can switch the (plasma) energy on and off and modulate it... unfortunately something happened at end of video when he pushed a chop stick through a table and his long dead Master was not pleased and chastised him - he disappeared and was never interviewed again... but just the 10 minutes or so we have is enough to alter perception and change lives....


Chi Kung Master Burns Paper With His Hand - John Chang

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0AZU8S9F0yI

[Ernie Nemeth]

This thread has made an impact on me.

It has caused some turmoil in my mind. Therre is something about the topic that draws me to it.

Having a problem with God as a sentient being, these clouds narrow the scope of my understandings. God exists as a template that all gods fit into. And that is why God has forsaken me. Because I refused the entreaties of lesser gods and insisted on 'The God or no god'. So, I got 'no god'.

How was I supposed to know that our god is a little god? Or that my rebuke of all little gods would be taken as an insult?

But in the process I forsook my heritage. The video above is a small sampling of what our powers truly are.
I have used those powers that I call wild magic, in honor of the Thomas Covenant series of books.
Wild Magic, neither good nor bad. Wielded by becoming a conduit of the natural force of life that surrounds and suffuses us.

If only god had not been misrepresented, I could have had the proper mindset with the correct parameters. But god had to be made 'larger than life' to encompass all the universe, which is impossible. Not only impossible but improbable, leading to incorrect ordering of the 'principles' that guide comprehension. Being open-ended, comprehension never arrives but is always lacking and therefore confusing.

I will go to the grave chastised and ostracized by my own will. All I can do now is beg for forgiveness, which will not come. I forsook my maker because I looked too far beyond our god's scope, ranging in alien realms I had no business entering without the proper gestalt in place within my mind.

I looked far and wide for our god when all the while god was right there above my head, closer than the moon. A little god, but a proud and sure god with love for all it has created.

Sorry about that, my little god.

Funny, god seems to be happy with this post, and the non-capitalization of its name.

[jaybee]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)

[post snipped see above #29]


I looked far and wide for our god when all the while god was right there above my head, closer than the moon. A little god, but a proud and sure god with love for all it has created.

Sorry about that, my little god.

Funny, god seems to be happy with this post, and the non-capitalization of its name.

I got kundalini waves reading your post which I perceive as affirmative - thanks for those deep thoughts..... funny thing is you have verbalized something I was thinking the other day.... but I held back for the time being because I had already made a suggestion that the (Kordylewski) Clouds could be the Akashic Records but something was pushing me within myself to go further and I did actually think - - - could they be God? - or as you have speculated - god - a 'little' god but our god - one that is real and present and has rules of creation, physicality, science, geometry, crystals and more - actually - at this stage of the whole shebang knowable... up to a point while in this physical body...

The creator (of which we are probably an active part in some way... refining and purifying and creating life ourselves)........the creator could be much closer than we ever thought - and there might be a fractually bigger one a bit further away.........*.....*......*......*

I'm getting thoughts and feelings that I can't express at the moment so I will leave it there for now....

beautiful post Ernie





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[arjunaloka_official]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
All I can do now is beg for forgiveness, which will not come.

How could a father with infinite love not ultimately forgive the finite errors of one of his sons?

[shaberon]

Posted by wegge (here)
Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know

Yes, completely so.

It sounds like Tesla had an uncontrolled, untrained experience of it.


In what I might call an abstract way, it is used in Visuddhimagga.

The same principle is also the basis for Mahayana meditation, which is more of a commitment.

All Kabalistic and Gnostic doctrines of Emanation are based on the same principle, using a color and a sound.

The Sanskrit alphabet is exactly this.


The next thing that I am going to do--which may seem a little strange--is take Mahayana Buddhism and use it as a conduit for the original and real meaning of the Vedas.

First we have to complain that India has used a lot of her own experts to blot out the original idea, and that getting in league with western experts has in fact made this go much worse. So in the west we see that plasma medical research has been housed at U. Leiden and that is about it.

Well, we need this human and cosmic plasma research to be the new expert that really does help sort out the metaphysical misunderstanding in India.

Buddhism is not anti-Hinduism, it is anti-whatever has gotten messed up about it. Such as caste. The original idea that caste is based on your karma says that as you grow up, you naturally gravitate towards some kinds of work more than others. The idea that it means you are born and locked into something, is an example of a later change.


The main thing that we want to sort out, which is exactly related to Plasma Universe, is Horse Sacrifice.


The literal interpretation which for example Dayanand Sarasvati would like us to believe, is about mighty kings decapitating animals, and using their power to dominate new subjects, which is because the Aryans are a superior race of horseriders, who overwhelmed, and of course provided true religion to, aboriginals.

Let us say the horse may have been unknown during the initial composition of the Vedas, and may have been allowed to become a symbol.

That establishes a chronology, because it is fairly simple for archaeological strata to establish that the modern horse was bred in the Russian plains ca. 2,000 B. C. E., and over about a thousand years period, it spread across all trading routes from Siberia to Spain, and the remaining populations of wild horses died out.

What is in the Vedas is not really the horse, but rice. And it can just as easily been found that rice was domesticated in the Gangetic plain in the Stone Age, while wheat was domesticated in Anatolia. Wheat spread eastward but kind of stopped when it got to India. There is no wheat to be found anywhere in the Vedas. The related commentarial material refers to it, by way of rejection.

So the Vedas are originally based in an Indian rice culture, and what has gotten missing from the teaching about the Horse is because it is a personal or subjective experience of the Photonic Individual, or Homo Electricus, of course for spiritual purposes so you do not get disoriented like Tesla.


In a political sense, India was thrown topsy-turvy by the British Lord MacCaulay and the translator Max Mueller, who at least said his work was conjecture. The British had a strategy to dig up "something Indian" and feed it back to the nation, so they would feel like they were really Indians I guess. And so for example they took up the Laws of Manu and used it to justify British-based caste legalism. However there is no historical evidence that the Laws were ever applied, that if anything it may be a type of guidebook, which would not support that meaning of caste anyway.


The Horse Sacrifice is politically inverted, because at most:


In Shatpath Brahmana (13.1.6) it is stated "Rashtram va asvamedhah"
i.e. asvamedha means to manage or run the affairs of the rashtra
(country) in a befitting manner.




And that is hardly the subject or meaning.

I have seen a few articles that go a bit far with this approach, such as to begin assigning things that are in the Vedas to things like Quark Spin or Dark Matter, and we can't be sure this is accurate or useful yet.

One would have to start with the basics, and here is a good start from the recently-published Asvamedha by Dr. Kak of L. S. U.:

...the a´svamedha, the so-called horse sacrifice, which actually represented
the transcendence by the king of time in its metaphorical representation as
horse. The primary meaning of a´sva as the sun is attested to in the R. gveda,
Nirukta, and Satapatha Br¯ ´ ahman. a.



The horse in Indian mythology stands for the Sun. The sea is taken to be it's stable and its birthplace. This reference is to the primal "waters" surrounding the earth from which the Sun emerges every day.

The Asvamedha is the sacrifice of the annual renewal of the Sun at the New Year and that of the accompanying renewal of the king's rule. At the spiritual level, it is a celebration to get reconnected to the inner Sun.

Of the principal animals conceived within the body, the horse represents time. The horse sacrifice is then the most mystical and powerful because it touches upon the mystery of time, which carries within it the secret of immortality.

The sacrifice of the animals is the enactment of the killing of the mortal lower self for a transformation into the immortal higher self. Since the higher self cannot manifest itself without the lower one, one must settle for something less, a ritual rebirth of the individual. In other words, sacrifice deals with the mastery of time.

From here, the next step is the cause of time or the Sun. The Rgveda (1.163.2) says that the horse is symbolic of the Sun.

So it is not a blood sacrifice whatsoever. For any type of ritual act, you would use nuts or rice or something like that, and the main meaning is about transformation of the inner individual.

It is largely about the Sun, particularly in the sense of visible and invisible suns. It is not a superstition, and if one of the scientific findings seems to be closely related, it is that bioplasma is recharged by oxygen. The Vedic material is along the lines that it is not just a bilateral relation of man to sun, but, an environmentally-conditioned throughput, pretty much the same as plasma has been found to operate.


A birthright priest caste giving a distorted teaching on this is much like the CIA thinking that psi-research is only of value for weapons.

The real Vedic way of understanding the Sun is the personal and subjective version of what mere moments ago, science accepted as the main motor of a person, combined with quantum physics and astronomical observations.

Correspondingly, yes, yoga practices are based in a type of living light as explained that way.

I am speaking for that as a witness, having done such things, it is not a theory. In actuality it is probably more important than ordinary waking consciousness.






It was mentioned recently that sometimes ball lightning seems to be telepathically responsive.


I am going to copy what I posted as Lightning Deity, and its picture on a very dark night:






This happened one summer when I was studying Prajna-paramita for the umpteenth time.

Everyone has seen storms with massive amounts of lightning. I wouldn't bother to write down something like that; this incident was almost exactly opposite. I haven't found a similar story yet.

Most people are familiar with "heat lightning", a non-striking flash usually seen during warmer months. I found out that this is correctly termed intra-cloud lightning, and represents the majority of lightning activity. Most lightning just zaps around inside clouds, and when those are big, puffy storm clouds, you usually won't even notice it, and so heat lightning is usually associated with a fairly clear sky.

So, at first, it was just a regular thing: strong wind builds up and a few minutes later, you get a bunch of rain. This storm only lasted about ten minutes, the wind died down, and there was hardly any rain.

That's when I started noticing pulses of heat lightning, but I wasn't looking. I was just sitting inside, but every window was filling with light. You could look out the window and outside, the pulses made the entire visible area--much brighter than on a clear day.

That started to get my attention, and as I watched, the flickering stopped. That is, the "off" phase of the flickering stopped. It stayed "on" as if the whole sky was a giant fluorescent lightbulb--much brighter than on a clear day.

It just kept staying "on", so what do I decide to do...anything safe, no...I went outside to take it face first, telling myself that all it can really do is kill me faster than I can blink, and there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.

That's when it started to descend and "talk to me".

There were approximately six nodes in the cloud where this bolt of lightning was basically just cruising around in a big circle. You could hear it like a spark plug or live wire. It slowly descended to the bottom face of the cloud. I'm stupidly watching this thing starting to juggle lightning hops in mid-air, it's very seriously close, and I just gawk at it in a telepathic communion, part of which is saying I won't even get mad if it decides to electrocute me.

This effect stayed in one place in the middle of my yard, continuously lighting the whole area brighter than a clear day, for at least 45 minutes. Once it started poking through the bottom face of the cloud, it continued to descend, until I was watching what I could only describe as: a tornado of lightning. It was a point-down spinning cone of electricity doing nothing but dropping lower and lower. Practically right in my face. Probably the wildest thing I have ever seen.

I wasn't able to actually be afraid of it, because it didn't seem interested in my telepathic offer to remove my existence. Moreso, it confirmed the truth of Prajna-paramita and some of the personal issues I was having at the time.

It clocked in pretty close to a full hour of the giant lightbulb; then once the tornado visited it simply...retreated back into the cloud. Then a gentle breeze started to push it out of my yard, and a few minutes later there was a massive blast less than a mile away.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has ever seen this, but so far I have not heard anything else that sounds like it.

[wegge]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by wegge (here)
Then I got another intuitive hit, and that the radiant luminous colors might play a role, maybe in a kind of visualization technique. If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know

This effect stayed in one place in the middle of my yard, continuously lighting the whole area brighter than a clear day, for at least 45 minutes. Once it started poking through the bottom face of the cloud, it continued to descend, until I was watching what I could only describe as: a tornado of lightning. It was a point-down spinning cone of electricity doing nothing but dropping lower and lower. Practically right in my face. Probably the wildest thing I have ever seen.

I wasn't able to actually be afraid of it, because it didn't seem interested in my telepathic offer to remove my existence. Moreso, it confirmed the truth of Prajna-paramita and some of the personal issues I was having at the time.

It clocked in pretty close to a full hour of the giant lightbulb; then once the tornado visited it simply...retreated back into the cloud. Then a gentle breeze started to push it out of my yard, and a few minutes later there was a massive blast less than a mile away.

I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has ever seen this, but so far I have not heard anything else that sounds like it.

thank you for your recommendations.

Unfortunately I have to bring in another name, whom I've discovered on this Plasma Journey. I also found him, like Joseph Farrell, being interviewed on the Higherside Chats. He's also been referenced in this thread and a joint video of him and Jay Weidner (I think they've co-founded Gaia TV?) has been posted. The actual thread that spawned this one here.

Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

He has an actual plasma device which seems to work (and looks great). Also curious if anyone of you has any input on that. I've seen a German couple not too far away from where I live working with this device and offering sessions (even remote) so I might check it out at one point.

Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described

[jaybee]

Posted by wegge (here)

Unfortunately I have to bring in another name, whom I've discovered on this Plasma Journey. I also found him, like Joseph Farrell, being interviewed on the Higherside Chats. He's also been referenced in this thread and a joint video of him and Jay Weidner (I think they've co-founded Gaia TV?) has been posted. The actual thread that spawned this one here.

Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

He has an actual plasma device which seems to work (and looks great). Also curious if anyone of you has any input on that. I've seen a German couple not too far away from where I live working with this device and offering sessions (even remote) so I might check it out at one point.

Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described

Just watched the presentation you linked to above.... Jay Weidner and Dan Winters.... many thanks for that - wow that was a humdinger of an hour and 22 minutes... phew - someone hold me down I nearly just whizzed off into the Kordylewski Clouds never to return... lol....

I'm going to post it here because it is so relevant to the thread topic of the Plasma Universe although the K Clouds aren't mentioned...

I didn't follow everything Dan said - and I totally get you when you said above...

Dan Winter. He's a super deep nerd and fast talker, I needed several interviews and read into a book from him to get his main points and the language he uses.. so it's definitely possible to get into that, and at that point quite poetic in a sense.

I kept starting to scribble quotes but there were so many.... so here is a sample...

Jay~(37:15).....we have many casualties right now going on... people have lost their way and they don't understand what the soul is - what the plasma world is.....

.....when you're reading ancient alchemy books every time they talk about the Secret Fire - they're talking about plasma...

.....Dan is 100% right - his linguistic skills probably go over the head of a lot of people but if you understand how to interpret what Dan is saying it's mind blowing....

Jay ~ (40:00)... it's electro magnetism and plasma...99.99% of the universe...

***********************************

Dan~ (40:04)...and it behaves like a super fluid and when it rotates you get mass..... and when can't pick up what he says here because he's speaking so fast.... can anyone reading this fill in the gap....?)...................you get time - and when it implodes you get gravity, consciousness and life force.....

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Jay ~ (40:50)....we're living at the bottom of a plasma ocean..............it's all around us - it goes way out there into space and it's filled with plasma creatures...

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Geometry, Implosion and the Alchemy of Time(1:22:30)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0Ql8u21PzI

video description...

Premiered on 11 Oct 2022
Dave & Riel create a super special moment, when, after a quarter of a century, Jay Weidner and Dan Winter come together to discuss plasma physics, sacred geometry and alchemy. A one time super discussion that you do not want to miss.

[wegge]

[QUOTE=jaybee;1573274]

Posted by wegge (here)




video description...

Premiered on 11 Oct 2022
Dave & Riel create a super special moment, when, after a quarter of a century, Jay Weidner and Dan Winter come together to discuss plasma physics, sacred geometry and alchemy. A one time super discussion that you do not want to miss.

I slowed it down on Youtube to 0.75x didn't help a lot, but something with period the rotation, then you get time?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o1H2hdhAgr8

This is one of Dan's main concepts, tranversal waves (in the above videos, in German though, going up and down) and the longitudinal waves being kind of pulsed and straight ahead.

So he says the transversal waves slowly align, get narrower and narrower, and at a certain point, I think it has something to do with the "Planch constant" they turn into longitudinal waves, speed up faster than light and this is what creates gravity for example. Kind of like a funnel.

For the waves to align I they have to be compressable, embedable and fractal. Waves aligning I think he calls "phase conjugation". He also talks about wave cascades, in which you have similar waves riding in each other and thus enhancing the overall power. Like harmonics in music I guess.

Don't take my word for it, but this is my very rough layman translation.

Oh what I also found interesting is when Dan mentioned in another interview, the reason that the plasma fire doesn't burn other things is because it has its "implosion enabled".

Implosion being another important concept with Dan, it's what happens when the transveral waves then implode into the longitudinal ones.. maybe


This series is well produced and quite understandable

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aPHelsoq4pg

[jaybee]

Posted by wegge (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o1H2hdhAgr8

This is one of Dan's main concepts, tranversal waves (in the above videos, in German though, going up and down) and the longitudinal waves being kind of pulsed and straight ahead.

So he says the transversal waves slowly align, get narrower and narrower, and at a certain point, I think it has something to do with the "Planch constant" they turn into longitudinal waves, speed up faster than light and this is what creates gravity for example. Kind of like a funnel.

For the waves to align I they have to be compressable, embedable and fractal. Waves aligning I think he calls "phase conjugation". He also talks about wave cascades, in which you have similar waves riding in each other and thus enhancing the overall power. Like harmonics in music I guess.

Don't take my word for it, but this is my very rough layman translation.

Oh what I also found interesting is when Dan mentioned in another interview, the reason that the plasma fire doesn't burn other things is because it has its "implosion enabled".

Implosion being another important concept with Dan, it's what happens when the transveral waves then implode into the longitudinal ones.. maybe

cheers.......


SLINKY !!!!

I don't speak German but with the demo you could get the gist of it..... I did understand the word 'slinky'

me and my brother had a Slinky each and had hours and hours and HOURS of fun with it in the 60s - it was so simple and yet so brilliant for playing with - the plastic ones they make now just aren't the same - you need that metal whoosh whoosh whoosh as you transfer it from one hand to the other - or let it go down the stairs or all the other things.................. I've just ordered a classic 'Slinky' from ebay - to relive the whole experience

So brilliant that the beloved Slinky has made an appearance to help with understanding the Plasma Universe -




ps - the Dan Winters video about kundalini was great -

[shaberon]

Posted by wegge (here)
Furthermore, Shaberon, Dan talks about shamans being able to steer/take over hurricanes. And that actually many elementals are said that humans ignore them and they'd be happy to interact more with them. I feel that this might be relevant for the experience you described

Yes, that sounds correct.

For example, the Rosicrucian Salamanders and so forth.

Alchemy is a type of Fire Philosophy, similar to Mazdaism and the Rg Veda.


Isaac Newton was perhaps the first but not the last word in Optics:


Goethe challenged Newton’s views on color, arguing that color was not simply a scientific measurement, but a subjective experience perceived differently by each viewer.



Henry E. Roscoe
Spectrum Analysis: Six Lectures . . .
London: Macmillan, 1869

These colorful line diagrams reveal the chemical compositions of metals. When a pure metal is burned and viewed through a spectroscope, each element gives off unique spectra, a sort of color fingerprint. This method, called spectral analysis, led to the discovery of new elements, and marked the first steps towards quantum theory.







From there, one observes Planck's Blackbody Radiation, which is the basis of Quantum Mechanics. Because energy is determined to move only in discrete quantized packets. So that is found from Optics, and by applying it to the laws of motion, Niels Bohr found that Angular Momentum is also quantized, from which it is determined how sub-atomic particles work, and also gives you Uncertainty, which is how quantum vacuum works and explains otherwise unexplainable things.


Newton was a thoroughly dedicated Alchemist according to Legacy 2012:


Other than a verse entitled The Hunting of the
Greene Lyon 1 found in the 1652 edition of Elias Ashmole’s Theatrum Chemicum
Britannicum (Linden 278), hunting is not a common metaphor for alchemy.


1 As a footnote, it was an annotated copy of Hunting of the Greene Lyon owned
by Isaac Newton that led researchers to unveil his interest in the secret science.


His manuscripts are extraordinarily difficult such as Chymystry with Green Lyon and Vulcan Lunatique.




This may be more obvious if we get the summary called Rotation of the Elements:


`In the gold the four elements are contained in equal proportions.'' Thus the Quintessence was often symbolized by the hexagram (``Solomon's Seal'') because it unites the signs of the elements.





Refinement Toward the Quintessence






Sublimation Toward Quintessence






We find the power of Torque or the combination of right angle and spin or rotation.

This can be found as the "scaling form of geometry" from astronomical to human to sub-microscopic due to the Torus:

Just as planets do, individuals have an electromagnetic field encircling their particular node of spatial awareness. According to research from the HeartMath Institute, this field emanates primarily from the heart-center. As per their paper Science of the Heart:

“The heart’s electromagnetic field – by far the most powerful rhythmic field produced by the human body – not only envelops every cell of the body but also extends out in all directions into the space around us. The cardiac field can be measured several feet away from the body by sensitive devices.”

Variable in size and coherence, here we have a template for understanding the elusive human aura. This personal torus defines the event horizon of our experience; it is the filter through which we view the world.

A complete set of geometric structures arise within the torus. Predictable nodal points connect to create Archimedean and Platonic solids. These are the organizing force behind form as we know it. Such geometry governs the subtle chakra and meridian systems operating within, around and throughout the body.

So, the vertical spinal forces as shown in Sublimation go through the inner cavity of the Heart Torus. The Heart is used as the Stationary Point at the center of the human torus according to the design of a Russian device from Evtimova 2010:


There may be distinguished four Human Assemblage Points: the Stationary
Assemblage Point (SAP) [1], the Moving Assemblage Point (MAP) [2], the Great Light
Assemblage Point (GLAP) [2] and the Energy Cocoon Assemblage Point (ECAP) [3,
4].

Photon Sound Beam-instruments provide high quality nourishing plasma
electrical energy delivered through glass tube applicators filled with noble gases. They are
vehicles for biological plasma electricity as well as for Lakhovsky radio wave emissions,
photons and subtle quantum energies provided by the plasma emission of the elements.
The specific Rife Frequencies allow the action of very low micro-currents to disassociate
bound matter and cells. In this way, all the primary (CAEC plus meridians) and subtle
energy channels (nadis) are opened-up, so that frequency information and quantum
correcting energies may be actually received and integrated by the human body
effectively.


It is the Carlos Castaneda of medicine addressing an issue that is said to be the Stationary Point slipping out of position.

That is how it is working.

Plasma is amorphous, but, due to the nature of forces involved, it is particularly liable to become a torus. Ball lightning is thought to be a torus that is spinning so it looks like a sphere. But it turns out you can actually make a stable one in Open Air:


Morteza (Mory) Gharib (PhD '83), the Hans W. Liepmann Professor of Aeronautics and Bioinspired Engineering at Caltech, says he was surprised when he and his team were able to generate a stable ring of plasma in open air using just a stream of water and a crystal plate.

"We were told by some colleagues this wasn't even possible. But we can create a stable ring and maintain it for as long as we want, no vacuum or magnetic field or anything," says co-author Francisco Pereira of the Marine Technology Research Institute in Italy, a visiting scholar at Caltech.

In addition, engineers working with the plasma noticed that their cell phones encountered high levels of radio frequency noise—static—while they were in the same room as the experiment. It turns out that the plasma ring emits distinct radio frequencies. "That's never been seen before. We think it's because of the piezo properties of the materials that we used in our experiments," Pereira says, referring to the materials' ability to be electrically polarized through mechanical stress—in this case, the flowing of water.

View from above:






Alchemy is a particularly difficult language about how yoga and physics are related like this.

That is the Philosopher's Stone.

It is perhaps comparable to Step One of the Visuddhimagga.

Newton was indebted to the Emperor of Prague:

Rudolf II (1552-1612) was obsessed with alchemy and the search for the Philosopher's Stone. This mysterious substance would not only turn base metals into gold, it would also be an elixir of life, which would bestow immortality, eternal youth and cure all diseases.

[wegge]

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Newton was indebted to the Emperor of Prague:

Rudolf II (1552-1612) was obsessed with alchemy and the search for the Philosopher's Stone. This mysterious substance would not only turn base metals into gold, it would also be an elixir of life, which would bestow immortality, eternal youth and cure all diseases.

This alchemy angle and especially Rudolf is also woven into the Dan Winter rabbit hole. He and collaborators like Vincent Bridges looked into the workings of John Dee and Edward Kelley. Rudolf even threw Kelley into jail for a while, since he couldn't reproduce the philosopher's stone for him. Before that, Dee and Kelley produced highest quality gold, even measured by the British Royal Science Society.


And from there we get to Shakespeare, whose plays seem to be heavily alchemical actually, after spending time with Kelley in Prague?

Dan talks of a "consummated experience," meaning towards the end of the play all the audience identifies with all the characters on the stage.

One part of it is the supposedly the geometry of the Shakespearean theatre, the other a clever arrangement of the play, showing all the characters and their inherent predominant emotions from a variety of angles.

I'm very interested in this point and if anyone has more info on that, please let me know!

[wegge]

[QUOTE=shaberon;1573649]

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We find the power of Torque or the combination of right angle and spin or rotation.

This can be found as the "scaling form of geometry" from astronomical to human to sub-microscopic due to the Torus:

Okay this brings me right to this video about "Octa Yoga" Yoga of 8s, an invention by Lou Debourbon, another collaborator from Dan:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jO9jLYiix3g

The video is very slow and can be easily viewed at 1,25x. It has many many self-made models, it's a visual treat!

It's basically doing figure 8s with different parts of the body on the 3 different planes of movement.




I've been doing the 8s on the planes for my lower belly, upper belly (solar plex) and heart area and WOW! It's bringing so much more feeling and agility into these areas.

I'm not yet doing the transitions from one area to the other, which would then translate into a trefoil knot

[jaybee]

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Just a few words about the cobra and Ancient Egypt - it seems pretty clear that the cobra represented plasma energy in some way...

In his very interesting and revealing book Cymroglphics.... Ross Broadstock (who tragically died of a heart attack last year....) drawing on the work of Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett - explains how Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs can be read using Welsh - specifically Old Welsh but Welsh in general....

This is an example (youtube video - 8:04) Cymroglyphics Bitesize 002 - Ramesses and the vanished vowels

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I have the book and looked up the cobra hieroglyph to see what it said... and on page 211 - 2nd edition - one of the two interpretations using Welsh is tethered.... the other one is ... strike/slap/wab/.... but tethered fits splendidly IMO...

Cobra..... cymric translation=cebera....root=cebystr.....english translation = tethered....

The enigmatic cobra appears to represent plasma energy being 'tethered'.... in our reality -

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it is traditionally said to symbolize royalty but it doesn't seem to actually appear in the names/cartouches of pharaohs - at least the ones I've had a look at here

but it does appear in many many places closely connected to the sun (aka plasma energy)....

for example...



Four golden uraei cobra figures, bearing sun disks on their heads, on the reverse side of the throne of Pharaoh Tutankhamun (1346–1337 BC). Valley of the Kings, Thebes, New Kingdom (18th Dynasty) source

and in the pictures of the sun (plasma?) - worshipping Pharaoh Akhenaten.... the cobra is coming out of the sun disc.... as it is in many other pictures...

so IMO it fits nicely that the cobra represents the tethering of plasma/light energy in Ancient Egyptian art - which could be a way of describing how our reality is formed from the plasma energy....plasma energy maybe residing in it's raw state in the Kordylewski Clouds -

complex dusty plasma tethered and fashioned (somehow) into the world that we live in - in our physical bodies while we are awake....



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