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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    A fully imaginary announcement from Putin. I wonder who else, in Russia, might be thinking somewhat along these lines.

    My friends ...Thank you.
    Is this actual or was this made up? Can't really say, :-)
    Maybe I picked up the Kremlin draft telepathically

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    WOW! 585 pages of effort on the thread, this is amazing...

    I suppose I haven't even made any attempts to figure the situation out due to the disinformation, misinformation, and downright lies that the public is typically fed... the psychological warfare aspect to any war environment.
    My own simplest-possible summary. (Anyone viewing this who's unclear or confused, please do read!)

    ~~~
    • The war was started in 2014, by the US (via a coup in Ukraine). It was not "unprovoked".
    • The US's intention has been, and still is, to destroy Russia. One of many reasons is that they want Russia's natural resources.
    • Zelensky is a bought-and-paid-for western puppet.
    • Putin is an able, sane, ethical, grounded, Christian, methodical, reasonable, cautious, highly aware and highly intelligent man. He's widely respected in Russia and in every other country apart from in North America, Europe, and Aus/NZ. (That's most of the world.)
    • Almost everything reported about (a) Russia, (b) the war, and (c) Putin in the western mainstream is a flat-out propaganda lie.
    • Russia has not committed any 'war crimes'. Ukraine has, many times over and in many different ways, including the deliberate bombing and killing of over 14,000 civilians in Donbass since 2014. That's still happening.
    • Russia is winning the war rather like Mike Tyson boxing with a skinny teenager. They could turn Kiev (or Ukraine) into a sea of glass anytime they want to, but Putin (being reasonable and cautious, see above) doesn't want to provoke WWIII, or cause more damage than is militarily necessary. (Russia has lost maybe 50,000 men in the war. Ukraine has lost anything between 350,000—500,000.)
    • But if attached directly by NATO, Russia will take the gloves off, and they have clear military and nuclear superiority over the west in every way. (This could still happen.)
    This is a good synopsis of the situation if you don't take into account that Putin is a WEF "Young Leader"; early on there was a video of Klaus ceremoniously presenting Putin a copy of his new book. I don't think you can get a clear picture of what's going on without taking this into account.

    The media is constantly pushing a polarized agenda; them or us, democrats or republicans, black vs white; hetero vs lgbt to divide and conquer; they're doing exactly the same in regards to Ukraine of course.

    But let's suppose for an instant that Putin is another tentacle of the WEF and being used to depopulate Ukraine; the agricultural milk-and-honey locale. This would explain Putin's soft approach. He's not seeking new territory, he just wants them all dead.

    I've leaning more towards an ELE event coming and the bunkers aren't fully stocked. They need food and fuel to stockpile and the less what they view as useless eaters on the planet, the easier this is for them. The WEF is pushing no meat, no travel; which tells me that the things they need for last minute prepping are food and fuel. In an Occam's Razor analysis, it's the simplest explanation and IMHO the correct one.
    Putin is not in the WeF, just because you take a look at/inside someone's kitchen doesn't mean you work there. Done this myself years ago with some political party, hung around certain People to see what was what.

    WeF is what Russia and Putin are opposing, if you had seen any of the speeches given by PaPu (especially at the start of SpeMiOp) you would have known this.

    Anyway, thinking about these things can't hurt either, TinTin or Bill probably know where to find those speeches if you're wondering.
    I don't use the content of political speeches as the basis for seeking truth and it mystifies me that you would use such an argument in a somewhat passive aggressive rebuttal (i.e. "you would have known this"). This is a red flag in itself, no pun intended When you make a statement like Putin is not part of the WEF; I think that's called a self-evident truth in debate.

    My first suspicion that something was fishy in Ukraine was the way the "war" was rolled out; exactly like the covid panademic (which I believe to be a depopulation event in itself); all the media around the world in lock-step, while any opposing opinions rigorously attacked, scrubbed, discredited...

    Then when I saw they took a nightclub entertainer and put him in charge of the armed forces to defend against Russian "aggression", I knew something was fishy. The Russian army could probably have taken Kiev in a fortnight but instead "fronts" were set up in the east and the meat-grinding began; my spider senses began tingling and I was pretty sure that another depopulation event had been cued. Taking a "soft approach", Putin sealed the fate of hundreds of thousands Ukranian young men; always the prime target for population control. It became obvious that the Ukraine role was to feed the meat grinder as many soldiers as they could muster and the Russian's role was to grind the meat.

    Depopulation is one of the prime objectives of the WEF and anytime we see an event rolled out in a media blitzkrieg, we can be sure it's the WEF pulling the strings.
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    "The brave Polish special services happily report that they have uncovered "the largest Russian intelligence network in the entire history of Poland" - as many as 16 people.

    Though, 12 of them turned out to be Ukrainians, including those with refugee status, and only one was a Russian citizen (we are talking about the young hockey player Maxim Sergeyev).

    As you can see, the Russophobic hysteria in Poland hits not only Russians.
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    https://twitter.com/mazzenilsson/sta...54247053774986




    https://twitter.com/mazzenilsson/sta...54228854644929




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    Kiev is preparing the total mobilization in September.

    Military administrations of Chernihiv, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Kharkiv and Mykolaiv regions sent out the requests to the enterprises for the lists of employees who could go to the front in the future.

    Military commissars were instructed to intensify the search for those who ignore the summons. The goal is to quickly recruit as many people as possible to send to the front .


    Translated from Swedish by Google

    Sorry.
    Thanks for the remark.
    Here is the correct document. My secretary was careless. Hard to find good staff here in Pieter.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    A fully imaginary announcement from Putin. I wonder who else, in Russia, might be thinking somewhat along these lines.

    My friends ...Thank you.
    Is this actual or was this made up? Can't really say, :-)
    Maybe I picked up the Kremlin draft telepathically
    (off-topic)



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    Blinking flip

    One for Marianna Spring methinks



    Source: https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status...24421555699851

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    BBC is going full conspiracy theory
    "It was all staged - Prigozhin is alive"
    (LOL)
    *Marianna Spring: is a British broadcast journalist. She is the BBC's first specialist disinformation and social media correspondent.
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    The body of a tortured and decapitated marine of the Russian army was found in the captured armor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - Ukrainian animals did not leave a living place on the soldier.

    A video is circulating on the Web, in which Russian soldiers claim to have found a Ukrainian torture chamber in the opornik they had just taken. According to them, the Ukrainian soldiers tortured the Russian fighter from the 155th Marine Brigade, after which they cut off his head.

    The body of the marine was cut up, and the severed head was burned, and all these atrocities were performed under the icon of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker. Ukrainian soldiers are beasts without honor, for whom the concepts of holiness and philanthropy are obviously alien. Torture and murder of captured Russian soldiers by Bandera's heirs became the norm, and even the UN failed to hush up this fact.

    Every enemy of Russia will be punished.

    Readovkanews

    Video may be viewed at:
    https://t.me/readovkanews/65083

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    🇺🇦🤡 In Chernovtsy, the Ukrainian nazis destroy the graves of the soldiers of the Soviet Army who fell in battle.

    The reason, as always, is hypocritical - "reburial".

    In fact, the monument, like hundreds of others like it, is an eyesore to modern Nazis who took power in Ukraine.

    So they take it far away so as not to see. Fascists, what else to expect from them?

    DDGeopolitics

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    https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/st...38784530681929



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    Reports of Four Il-76 Aircraft Damaged After UAV Attack on Pskov Military Aerodrome

    There are emerging reports, primarily from Telegram channels, that four Il-76 aircraft have sustained damage following a drone attack on the Pskov military aerodrome.

    However, it's essential to await confirmation from official sources regarding this information. The situation is still developing, and further updates will be provided as official details become available.

    https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...40713327296593


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    ⚡️🇺🇦 Ukrainian police SHOT a man in front of his family, he lost his life on the spot while his children filmed it

    The 39-year-old tried to defend his wife when their vehicle was stopped in Dnepropetrovsk, but was shot after overpowering one of the cops and making a dash to help his wife fight off the other one (policewoman), who got a nosebleed from the altercation

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    Attempted Drone Attack on Druzhba Oil Depot in Bryansk Repelled

    According to the latest reports, two drones attempted an attack on the Druzhba oil depot in Bryansk. These drones were successfully intercepted and shot down around 00:50. Presently, air defense systems remain actively engaged to ensure the depot's security.

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    🇷🇺 Statement of the Russian Ministry of Defense

    “On August 30, at about 00.00 Moscow time, a naval aviation aircraft of the Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea destroyed four high-speed military boats with landing groups of Ukrainian special operations forces with a total of up to 50 people,” the message says.

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    Mountain Jim just posted this in the Tucker thread and it's a good watch for this thread too.

    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...43892253466712

    Tucker sits down with the leader of Hungary.

    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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