Dr. Jordan Peterson Reacts to Court Decision to Take Away His Freedom of Speech

[Pris]

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Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Mr. Peterson needs to watch his back for sure!

Once someone well known like Peterson or even Trump is snuffed out and no one goes to jail for it the mindless zombies will think their free to kill all those that don't agree with them or that they think are offensive and that is when the real chaos will begin.

I think we're being brought to the precipice. It's going to be close... or at the very least, it must appear that way in order to wake people up.

It's crazy how absurd the world MUST become in order to snap people out of their hypnosis.

I do have my concerns for all those involved in the front line battles. And, not everyone has a legion of bodyguards, snipers, and military to protect them everywhere they go.

[Pris]

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Posted by Matthew (here)
Professor Peterson keeps trying to heal academia. He's the kind of voice that would heal the abuse of terms talked about in this thread. Add in he always talks about God and holds his own at intellectual debates at all levels. What a nightmare, no wonder he's under constant assault. He has my respect but he grates against me - when he talks about God I don't feel the spirit, like he's a rules-based person. However, I'm not the Pope and I don't know everything. But there's enough there for me to want to back him up. It's like a war of attrition between Peterson's sanity vs official Canada's insanity.

You say that Dr. Jordan Peterson's voice is the kind "that would heal the abuse of terms talked about in this thread". Which words and phrases, specifically, are you referring to and how do you think they can be "healed"?

I like that Jordan Peterson has your respect. Jordan, in my opinion, is a very "left-brain" individual. He is what he is and I wouldn't want him any other way. Everyone feels differently. You may not "feel the spirit" coming from Jordan, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. How does that matter anyway? What I see is a strong, dignified man.

Jordan Peterson has gone through and continues to go through trying times. Despite being very intellectual, he has read the system wrong in many ways and he's only just waking up to it. As he goes along, he learns, just like the rest of us. Unfortunately, Jordan has been forced to learn some of the lessons the hard way... like the fact that he trustingly took the death-jab (in order to travel) and only realized later how it was all a terrible con. It is refreshing to me to see his general outrage, finally. Only recently, he's been putting the pieces together in a frenzy. Thank goodness we have another awake and aware alpha male on our team.

[shaberon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
No, we need to dismantle the entire system and root out the evil and the collusion and the greed.

Only then can we move forward in peace.

It first of all would be a matter of identifying a "system" that is dysfunctional. I see we are getting examples of failure to communicate and, subsequently, lack of cohesion.

I call it Capitalism.

It is not a 1900s political theory, so much as it is "ownership of capital", which is a tangible, which exists as the Bank of England, as well as private fondi of wealth from continental Europe extending back at least to the Crusades.

By extension now it includes the entire western clique of wealth hoarding and trammeling the lives of those who are not in the clique.

This transcends politics and religion, in fact, I think it transcends the members of the clique themselves. Doesn't care if it makes or breaks any particular rich person. It just has one way of working, profit.

I am not sure how it could really be revised other than dissolving influential institutions and re-formulating all the laws passed in their favor. A government's legitimate role would be in protecting us from those others who are up to something. Instead it provides for well-being. That's not what I see happening.

It is not that hard to find a sort of lifeline where most countries received a central bank hooked in to the same system.

Since around the time of the London School of Economics, most proponents have taken the name Capitalism unto themselves. There is not one word that represents the totality of everything that could be said, about abstracts, such as evil, but this does more or less identify the users of a main machine built in 1694.

The facts of it are not an opinion; my negative reaction is.

[Pris]

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Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
No, we need to dismantle the entire system and root out the evil and the collusion and the greed.

Only then can we move forward in peace.

It first of all would be a matter of identifying a "system" that is dysfunctional. I see we are getting examples of failure to communicate and, subsequently, lack of cohesion.

I call it Capitalism.

It is not a 1900s political theory, so much as it is "ownership of capital", which is a tangible, which exists as the Bank of England, as well as private fondi of wealth from continental Europe extending back at least to the Crusades.

By extension now it includes the entire western clique of wealth hoarding and trammeling the lives of those who are not in the clique.

This transcends politics and religion, in fact, I think it transcends the members of the clique themselves. Doesn't care if it makes or breaks any particular rich person. It just has one way of working, profit.

I am not sure how it could really be revised other than dissolving influential institutions and re-formulating all the laws passed in their favor. A government's legitimate role would be in protecting us from those others who are up to something. Instead it provides for well-being. That's not what I see happening.

It is not that hard to find a sort of lifeline where most countries received a central bank hooked in to the same system.

Since around the time of the London School of Economics, most proponents have taken the name Capitalism unto themselves. There is not one word that represents the totality of everything that could be said, about abstracts, such as evil, but this does more or less identify the users of a main machine built in 1694.

The facts of it are not an opinion; my negative reaction is.

I do not think a debate about Capitalism is appropriate for this thread and would prefer that the topic is continued elsewhere.

Everyone, please stick to the topic of the thread. Thank you.

[amor]

Dr. Jordan Peterson: I am with you 100%. What nerve for the Chinese paid-off rabble, now representing themselves as the educated and governing of Canada to eliminate freedom of speech, and especially from one so well educated in his subject. This is as good as saying to the rest of the country, we will do whatever we please to you ignorant compliant fools, including rob you blind, kill you off, rip out your organs without benefit of anesthetic as we do in China and sell them to others for the enrichment of our bank accounts, keep your children in ignorance, imprison you in our skyscrapers as we have done in Shanghai, starve you to death by locking you up in our prison-skyscrapers, murder your pets by grinding them up in our garbage trucks, cancel your bank accounts and incrementally use every means of murdering you so that our CCP population may abscond with your country. Such Crum-buns need to be eliminated and shown no mercy.

[Akasha]

Posted by Pris (here)
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Posted by Akasha (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
.....Thanks for making it abundantly clear that we may completely disregard your posts.....

Ah, the royal "We". God forbid "We" should become subject to group-think. Appreciate the input, Pris.

You've already raised the eyebrows on a few of us. I'm not out of line here as your comments have been intentionally condescending to the members here. The word is "may". I said we may ignore you, not must.

"Groupthink"... interesting word choice. I would imagine that Dr. Jordan Peterson would have a great deal to say about that subject considering how the corrupted system is going after him for having the audacity to call out the globalist's BS narrative.

The subject of this thread -- especially with regard to what's going on in Canada right now -- is the antithesis to "groupthink". Dr. Jordan Peterson is a fighter and he won't be intimidated into silence by some group of people that consider themselves to be the "authority" over what others are permitted to say. They are threatening to take his license away if he doesn't comply to taking a "groupthink" re-education program and acknowledge the "error of his ways". The degree required to redeem himself is left up to others to arbitrarily decide. They're literally making up this nonsense as they go along. Meantime, what appears to be a corrupt court decision on the matter has put the wheels into motion.

Did you even watch the interview?

Whatever you may think of him, Dr. Jordan Peterson is highly respected and listened to by many Canadians regardless of their political leanings. He is a high profile Canadian who apparently has "unacceptable views" and has therefore joined the ranks of the so-called "small fringe minority". That makes him a danger to the globalists because he has the ability to wake up lot of Canadians. This is why they have to make an example of him by attempting to knock the wind out of him... to which Jordan responds, "Bring it on!"

This interview reaction from Dr. Jordan Peterson to a court decision to take away his freedom of speech will wake up more sleepy-headed Canadians than ever before. Waking people up out of their psyop-induced coma is a hugely positive step forward in our fight against the globalists, not just for Canadians, but for all freedom-loving people around the world.

Peterson is not "a fighter". He is an actor (with a benzo' addiction). Kind of like Jones except his preferred poison is meth'. The more you parrot the Unit 8200 line, the more people will realise where you are unwittingly or worse, wittingly, coming from.

[Akasha]

Why is it always the zionist "truthers" who are hit with legal action for their deeds? Peterson is the latest example, but this scenario is just Jones/Sandy Hook 2.0. Does anyone seriously believe that Jones' purse is now half a billion dollars lighter? Gimme a break.

[Akasha]

Jones/Sandy Hook and now this remind me of the Bill Hicks/Basic Instinct skit.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-ljFgB2o7U

[Pris]

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Posted by Akasha (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
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Posted by Akasha (here)

Posted by Pris (here)
.....Thanks for making it abundantly clear that we may completely disregard your posts.....

Ah, the royal "We". God forbid "We" should become subject to group-think. Appreciate the input, Pris.

You've already raised the eyebrows on a few of us. I'm not out of line here as your comments have been intentionally condescending to the members here. The word is "may". I said we may ignore you, not must.

"Groupthink"... interesting word choice. I would imagine that Dr. Jordan Peterson would have a great deal to say about that subject considering how the corrupted system is going after him for having the audacity to call out the globalist's BS narrative.

The subject of this thread -- especially with regard to what's going on in Canada right now -- is the antithesis to "groupthink". Dr. Jordan Peterson is a fighter and he won't be intimidated into silence by some group of people that consider themselves to be the "authority" over what others are permitted to say. They are threatening to take his license away if he doesn't comply to taking a "groupthink" re-education program and acknowledge the "error of his ways". The degree required to redeem himself is left up to others to arbitrarily decide. They're literally making up this nonsense as they go along. Meantime, what appears to be a corrupt court decision on the matter has put the wheels into motion.

Did you even watch the interview?

Whatever you may think of him, Dr. Jordan Peterson is highly respected and listened to by many Canadians regardless of their political leanings. He is a high profile Canadian who apparently has "unacceptable views" and has therefore joined the ranks of the so-called "small fringe minority". That makes him a danger to the globalists because he has the ability to wake up lot of Canadians. This is why they have to make an example of him by attempting to knock the wind out of him... to which Jordan responds, "Bring it on!"

This interview reaction from Dr. Jordan Peterson to a court decision to take away his freedom of speech will wake up more sleepy-headed Canadians than ever before. Waking people up out of their psyop-induced coma is a hugely positive step forward in our fight against the globalists, not just for Canadians, but for all freedom-loving people around the world.

Peterson is not "a fighter". He is an actor (with a benzo' addiction). Kind of like Jones except his preferred poison is meth'. The more you parrot the Unit 8200 line, the more people will realise where you are unwittingly or worse, wittingly, coming from.

Posted by Akasha (here)
Why is it always the zionist "truthers" who are hit with legal action for their deeds? Peterson is the latest example, but this scenario is just Jones/Sandy Hook 2.0. Does anyone seriously believe that Jones' purse is now half a billion dollars lighter? Gimme a break.

Posted by Akasha (here)
Jones/Sandy Hook and now this remind me of the Bill Hicks/Basic Instinct skit.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-ljFgB2o7U

Not only is this off topic, this deliberate derailment is not welcome in my thread.


Moderators, please take care of this. Thank you.

[Matthew]

Posted by Pris (here)
You say that Dr. Jordan Peterson's voice is the kind "that would heal the abuse of terms talked about in this thread". Which words and phrases, specifically, are you referring to and how do you think they can be "healed"?

I like that Jordan Peterson has your respect. Jordan, in my opinion, is a very "left-brain" individual. He is what he is and I wouldn't want him any other way. Everyone feels differently. You may not "feel the spirit" coming from Jordan, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. How does that matter anyway? What I see is a strong, dignified man.

Jordan Peterson has gone through and continues to go through trying times. Despite being very intellectual, he has read the system wrong in many ways and he's only just waking up to it. As he goes along, he learns, just like the rest of us. Unfortunately, Jordan has been forced to learn some of the lessons the hard way... like the fact that he trustingly took the death-jab (in order to travel) and only realized later how it was all a terrible con. It is refreshing to me to see his general outrage, finally. Only recently, he's been putting the pieces together in a frenzy. Thank goodness we have another awake and aware alpha male on our team.

Whatever strengths he has he's still a flawed human, that's not my fault.

He wants to heal misguided thinking. This isn't my mission, I see it in everything he's done/doing. He's an academic, that is his world-identity that gives him the social status he has.

He's a rules based person and slightly narcissistic. I don't feel the spirit in him. It's a terminus opinion of mine and if I'm going to change my mind I haven't so far. Respectfully nothing you've said has influenced me. We can agree to differ.

He didn't just take the death-jab though, what else happened? I'll say it: he told people to "dam well get the vaccine", and he did this because he's got one leg planted rooted firmly in academia. That's the issue with academics like Peterson or Dr Campbell, because academia is their truth. When he grandstanded, and took it upon himself to spend the trust people have in him to urge them to get jabbed, he's showing how vulnerable he is because of his narcissistic trait. He can't help himself! Sure he changed his mind, I'm cool with that. But if you're glossing over his insistence to his followers that they get jabbed then good for you because I can forgive but no, I'm not forgetting.

Sure! Yeah, I love seeing an alpha male fight back, best show ever. This is why I support him. But like any academic we need to look twice at things he says. In light of his unwarranted self-importance to insist that everyone gets jabbed how is this not a reasonable position? I will cheer the things I support from him on one hand and keep my eyes wide open on the other. The same goes for Dr Campbell.

[Akasha]

Posted by Pris (here)
.....Not only is this off topic, this deliberate derailment is not welcome in my thread.


Moderators, please take care of this. Thank you.....

Dear Pris, what I am trying to highlight is that the legislation against Peterson would not stand up in a court of law once it attempts to go up against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of which Canada is a signatory. I trust that many will test the validity of the legislation in this way and show it up for the sham that it is rather than solely observing what we have just witnessed and then concluding all is lost.

[Tintin]

Posted by Pris (here)
Moderators, please take care of this. Thank you.

We're just considering what the best course of action might be here and will inform parties as to any action we take.

TO ALL

In the meantime sticking to the core of the issues (and their wider ramifications) that JP is contending with here will help to keep the thread on-track and we do ask - please - that all contributors here focus on these issues, not necessarily the person. This does have the potential for a very intelligent debate, conducted in a civil manner. There are some bright minds here: let them shine.

Thankyou

[Bill Ryan]

Mod note from Bill:

Ditto to Tintin's mod post above.

This thread is far, far more about Canadian government censorship (and Orwellian 'wrong-think' forced re-education) than Jordan Peterson's personality. It's hard to imagine that any Avalon member would condone or justify what seems to be happening to him, whatever his opinions or history.

We already have a general thread titled Jordan Peterson Update, which is a much more appropriate place to share any concerns or critiques of Peterson himself. We'll not move any posts from this thread to there right now, but please do help us all keep discussions (of any kind!) to topic.

[Akasha]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
..... It's hard to imagine that any Avalon member would condone or justify what seems to be happening to him, whatever his opinions or history......

Hi Bill, to be clear, I'm not condoning his treatment at all! The reason for my perspective is because it is him and not say Pat King who is in the limelight. If it had been Pat, he would have taken it as an opportunity to crush it in court, no doubt with reference to the Universal Declaration of Human rights.

As my previous posts reflect, I am highly suspicious when these kinds of performances by these kinds of actors keep playing out.

The average Conspiracy Joe has no doubt been effectively silenced, having accepted Jones’ SH conviction / settlement as valid. Mind control 101.

What about the other countless sites who published info’ calling into question the validity of Sandy Hook? Avalon has reams of material on the subject. Has anybody asked you to remove it under threat of litigation?

If not, my point remains. These show trials are designed to disempower freedom-
loving citizens who should be able to call (pardon my French) “a piece of sh!t” “a piece of sh!t” when they see one.

As I mentioned before, we’ll see whether this legislation really has teeth when someone other than Peterson contests it.

As of now, I will stay away from this thread, but I will say that when there is no debate within threads, each one effectively becomes its own echo chamber. So do we want Avalon to be a compilation of echo-chambers or do we want to keep it vibrant and energetic?

[norman]

Posted by Akasha (here)

As of now, I will stay away from this thread, but I will say that when there is no debate within threads, each one effectively becomes its own echo chamber. So do we want Avalon to be a compilation of echo-chambers or do we want to keep it vibrant and energetic?

I get your point but in the macro, the contestants are 2 sides of a 'spiritual' war not an intellectual war.

The war is morphing from dark V light into false light V true light. The intellect is a tool of the false light side.

I know that sounds like a totally insane comment , , ,but, it was the false light side that converted faith into belief, in the first place, so tread carefully and watch your backs ( fronts and sides too ), folks. This war is only just getting going. Head bangery ( of all polarities ) is the real psyop'.

[Matthew]

Fine.

Here's some on-topic musing. Because I have enjoyed this thread so far, and found it very informative, so I will invest in some on-topic words to say thank you. The problem is I can't find much since the ruling featured in the opening post. ...I'll think of something.

In an interview shown by The Quartering^*1 Jordan says he is more sad for Canada than for himself. In my opinion he has been targeted as if he is the head of state for the anti-counterculture side. We don't always get to choose these things and Jordan seems to be taking it as such that it is not personal but symbolic.

The Quatering guy makes a good point: Jordan has superstar status, he doesn't need the establishment titles, accolades or licenses; he has the end-goal of all that which is fame and popularity. I've already made a point about how Jordan is rooted in academia, similar to Dr Campbell, so as much as we love these guys courage the issue will still be academia. Love me, love my dog academia. I might not love your academia but I do love your dog.

One hopeful consequence is possibly destroying the last bits of credibility academia has. Their spiteful ruling, enjoying the humiliation of a finger-wagging, it won't change any minds, it's purposefully spiteful, then the judge him to see if he can still have his license. But Jordan knows this. I hope this breaks him from academia, which has been abused and can be condemned down the respect hierarchy to a lower position.

The harlequin patterned suits he wears doesn't match his earnest sober nature. But they don't match him perfectly, considering he is a victim in clown-world and one of the few sensible voices I find this poetic.

Behold our academic heyóka:

The Quatering: https://youtu.be/EEX5l4v_TPU?feature=shared

[Pris]

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Mod note from Bill:

Ditto to Tintin's mod post above.

This thread is far, far more about Canadian government censorship (and Orwellian 'wrong-think' forced re-education) than Jordan Peterson's personality. It's hard to imagine that any Avalon member would condone or justify what seems to be happening to him, whatever his opinions or history.

We already have a general thread titled Jordan Peterson Update, which is a much more appropriate place to share any concerns or critiques of Peterson himself. We'll not move any posts from this thread to there right now, but please do help us all keep discussions (of any kind!) to topic.

Posted by Akasha (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
..... It's hard to imagine that any Avalon member would condone or justify what seems to be happening to him, whatever his opinions or history......

Hi Bill, to be clear, I'm not condoning his treatment at all! The reason for my perspective is because it is him and not say Pat King who is in the limelight. If it had been Pat, he would have taken it as an opportunity to crush it in court, no doubt with reference to the Universal Declaration of Human rights.

As my previous posts reflect, I am highly suspicious when these kinds of performances by these kinds of actors keep playing out.

The average Conspiracy Joe has no doubt been effectively silenced, having accepted Jones’ SH conviction / settlement as valid. Mind control 101.

What about the other countless sites who published info’ calling into question the validity of Sandy Hook? Avalon has reams of material on the subject. Has anybody asked you to remove it under threat of litigation?

If not, my point remains. These show trials are designed to disempower freedom-
loving citizens who should be able to call (pardon my French) “a piece of sh!t” “a piece of sh!t” when they see one.

As I mentioned before, we’ll see whether this legislation really has teeth when someone other than Peterson contests it.

As of now, I will stay away from this thread, but I will say that when there is no debate within threads, each one effectively becomes its own echo chamber. So do we want Avalon to be a compilation of echo-chambers or do we want to keep it vibrant and energetic?

Posted by Matthew (here)
Fine.

Here's some on-topic musing. Because I have enjoyed this thread so far, and found it very informative, so I will invest in some on-topic words to say thank you. The problem is I can't find much since the ruling featured in the opening post. ...I'll think of something.

In an interview shown by The Quartering^*1 Jordan says he is more sad for Canada than for himself. In my opinion he has been targeted as if he is the head of state for the anti-counterculture side. We don't always get to choose these things and Jordan seems to be taking it as such that it is not personal but symbolic.

The Quatering guy makes a good point: Jordan has superstar status, he doesn't need the establishment titles, accolades or licenses; he has the end-goal of all that which is fame and popularity. I've already made a point about how Jordan is rooted in academia, similar to Dr Campbell, so as much as we love these guys courage the issue will still be academia. Love me, love my dog academia. I might not love your academia but I do love your dog.

One hopeful consequence is possibly destroying the last bits of credibility academia has. Their spiteful ruling, enjoying the humiliation of a finger-wagging, it won't change any minds, it's purposefully spiteful, then the judge him to see if he can still have his license. But Jordan knows this. I hope this breaks him from academia, which has been abused and can be condemned down the respect hierarchy to a lower position.

The harlequin patterned suits he wears doesn't match his earnest sober nature. But they don't match him perfectly, considering he is a victim in clown-world and one of the few sensible voices I find this poetic.

Behold our academic heyóka:

The Quatering: https://youtu.be/EEX5l4v_TPU?feature=shared

(Thanks Bill, much appreciated.)


Both of you, seriously. Just had to throw another couple of punches in there. Really, the best way to describe what you're doing here is character assassination and ad hominem attacks on Jordan Peterson (e.g. what's his outfit got to do with anything). There is another thread which is more appropriate for that.

The thread is about Jordan Peterson's right to freedom of speech and precisely what he said that put him in the crosshairs.

[Michel Leclerc]

Maybe just a sideline.

I did not like the way Peterson constantly interrupted his interviewer, shouting and cursing, patronisingly giving her good points for her remarks and making her barely audible.

A hectoring communication style vis-a-vis a person who did not deserve it, at all.

[Pris]

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Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
Maybe just a sideline.

I did not like the way Peterson constantly interrupted his interviewer, shouting and cursing, patronisingly giving her good points for her remarks and making her barely audible.

A hectoring communication style vis-a-vis a person who did not deserve it, at all.

OFF TOPIC! There is another thread for attacking the man's character, I thought that was already made clear. (Jordan was NOT yelling at his daughter and/or interrupting her because he's, supposedly, an a-hole. He was yelling because the subject made him angry.)

Respect and focus on the subject of the thread.

[amor]

P.S. I just love Mr. Petersons jacket! Appropriately, inappropriate. To Pris, are you a male or a female as your picture suggests? I think the former, and you have an older, wiser mind. Personally, I connect all the DOTS coming up with the truth that the Nazi's are behind all the very rich, players on the board: NWO, WWIII, conquest of North America by NWO UN, Nazi Space Program in all its disguised, wealthy pushers such as Nazis who demanded of the USA they head all Corporations after winning the war against Admiral Byrd in 1953 in Antartica. Musk and his space program: Do not be fooled by clever rhetoric, the genocidal plan to remove the human race from Earth (which I assure you is continuing in disguise), the news that South Africa was given the bomb by the Nazi's (I believe in conjunction with allowing the Aldebarans into the Congo to mine space minerals). Also the prophesy online that after the super volcano is set off in North America, a nuke from space (who has the ability to put it there?) will end all life here. Who was it that gave the approval for the Aldebarans to occupy Africa? Could it have been (1) The Inner Earth Annunaki or (2) The Reptillians and Nazis? or (3) All of the above???

Now you may say this has nothing to do with Mr. Petersen. I disagree. The DOTS are all out there to be connected. Removal of human rights is just down the road to human genocide.