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    Slightly off topic but very related. In case anyone missed it, the WHO is coming right out and saying it:

    "We're undergoing a soft coup, and the idea is to create a whole new set of laws and ignore the existing human rights laws and other laws under the pretext of pandemic preparedness and the biosecurity agenda... the justification requires you to believe that pandemics are common and that they're caused by humans catching diseases from animals, from what they call spillover... The WHO is developing...a pandemic treaty and amendments to the existing international health regulations that will remove the human rights protections currently embedded in the IHRs, will enforce surveillance, censorship, get rid of freedom of speech, require governments to censor, and only push a single narrative... Other things that the amendments do is to bind the state so they're no longer recommendations, but enforceable edicts, provide a liability shield, get rid of intellectual property rights, move supplies from one country to another, enforce digital passports. And the director general of who can demand that a pandemic or a potential pandemic exists. He can just declare it with no standards, and then countries around the world will have to obey. Also the WHO will tell you what drugs you can and can't use in your nation once a pandemic is declared. Obviously, the budget will increase. One Health is another part of this. One Health is a concept that was created to enable the WHO, with these documents, to take over jurisdiction of everything in the world by saying that climate change, animals, plants, water systems, ecosystems are all central to health. Also embedded in this concept is a peculiar notion that humans are no longer of greater value than animals."


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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    So Hawaiian Electric now says they turned the power off before the second devastating fire began. FEMA blames climate change and calls it the new normal.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cmVz6hgVnp2t


    Survivors describe who wind "funneled" fire right into Lahaina.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/8B8nJraYhKEI


    A bit more uplifting. This kid made lemonade and people donated so much he was able to send $17,000 dollars to help those in Lahaina.


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3agp42/?pub=4

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    THANK YOU seehas!

    I watched the video hoping to see what made it and what did not, and while I got to see part of what I wanted to see, I still must find a video that includes the other side of Front Street... You really just made my day, and I needed to see something good about the situation...

    The Lahaina cannery was where I worked while I lived on the island... (I worked at Long's Drugs).. It sure was amazing to see it still standing! I was told it burned when the fire was still going... And while I know the Seaside Inn closed down years ago... It was nice to see the building it used to occupy, also still standing.. The loss of the homes is what I worry about the most however... So many friends and their generations of families living in that area...

    I never thought I would say this, but MORE VIDEOS PLEASE!

    Does anyone have any footage of Puamana? I will try to capture a decent photo of the poster I have hung in my bathroom, of those days... And what Puamana looked like, as well as a map to show where it was on the island... (At the other end of Front Street, that was our entrance... ) It looks like now it is more vacation rentals, but back then, they were usually full of locals who worked in town...

    I have actual photos of the pool, and my roommate walking to meet up with me, as I swam in that ocean pool nearly daily... And while I had a smaller pool just outside my backdoor, at the condo we rented, the waters edge was just spectacular. I never once swan in the little pool ... What an amazing place it was... I hope it is still there...



    (Sorry about the reflections from the lighting)



    These are images I posted to facebook.. I HOPE they show up as I typically don't upload photos to any server or service for this purpose... My profile should be viewable...
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    What might be a worthwhile task is researching how one might disrupt a nanowave? energy.

    If you can cancel sound by simply inverting the wave and playing in synch it may be possible to disrupt such energy waves with interference?

    good thinking.... in the meantime it looks like wearing blue and painting everything in sight blue might be helpful when under micro~wave / laser attack... wonder if the harm of 5G could be alleviated in this way...?

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

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    "They passed out toilet paper because they wouldn't let us use their bathroom. I guess we look like leprosy people to them in our dark skin."

    "You're telling us to fill out this paperwork so that you can give us the least amount of money."


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZIhrxegcDxe1

    The devastation people in Maui/Lahaina are suffering is terrible and heart breaking - Kristin in the testimony above makes a point of saying that she is a 'forced' American not a proud American - and you have to question how the hell Hawaai came to be an American State - I have read before that it was missionaries backed by military who forged the path towards it and it is an obviously an important strategic position militarily - maybe it was also hallmarked as a future bolt hole for the mega rich and famous in times of global 'trouble' ..... somewhere where they could safely hide - far far away from the common people who might not take kindly to being killed off en masse and their countries destroyed in the Great Deception (aka Great Reset) ....

    It looks like everything that could be done to maximize the death toll WAS done - and the loss of the children is an attack on future generations and survival of the indigenous Hawaiians...

    Although clearing the land for a 'Smart' City - - - called a Satellite City by Kristin above... is being talked about a lot - perhaps the primary motive is to further the exclusivity of the island...the billionaires and trillionaires etc preparing their little corner of paradise for when the SHTF.....??

    or a combination of both - perhaps those employed to serve 'them' will be put in the Dumb/Smart City while those with all the wealth and power luxuriate in the good life...

    ???

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    A strong piece from Redacted (Clayton and Natali Morris), a 20-minute extract from their program yesterday.

    They're blocking you from seeing the truth in Maui


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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Regarding the response from the Electric company's CEO as to whether or not they turned off the power (6 days after the event)... All utility companies have an emergency response protocol for each type of emergency and how they should deal with it. By that I mean, they should have a documented process that defines the roles, responsibilities and criteria when there is a fire, earthquake, or hurricane to turn off the energy. I believe these emergency protocols are required by the state and federal regulators. The fact that she did not mention these standard protocols tells me that she is either incompetent or she knew the answer.
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    Large inland parcels south of the Lahaina Bypass are owned by large developers and trusts, and everything west of these parcels were hundreds of small residential lots which were all destroyed as well.

    What’s most interesting about looking at the aerial imagery, is that amongst the destruction are various structures still standing with green grass & green trees, nearly right up to edge or property line. Looking at GIS data & street view some don't make sense, as a few have all wood construction! In other cases, condo complexes that appear to be of concrete construction, completely destroyed.

    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web
    Has anyone managed to check the county records to see if there's a pattern to what was targeted and destroyed, which homes and businesses? Did they specifically destroy those owned or occupied by the native Hawaiians who have rights to the land while leaving others they can simply evict later?

    This insurance adjuster who specializes in fires calls Maui an attack, not a wildfire.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Bz64JZGyR1a

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Quote Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
    Quote Posted by Frankie Pancakes (here)
    Large inland parcels south of the Lahaina Bypass are owned by large developers and trusts, and everything west of these parcels were hundreds of small residential lots which were all destroyed as well.

    What’s most interesting about looking at the aerial imagery, is that amongst the destruction are various structures still standing with green grass & green trees, nearly right up to edge or property line. Looking at GIS data & street view some don't make sense, as a few have all wood construction! In other cases, condo complexes that appear to be of concrete construction, completely destroyed.

    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p...utm_medium=web
    Has anyone managed to check the county records to see if there's a pattern to what was targeted and destroyed, which homes and businesses? Did they specifically destroy those owned or occupied by the native Hawaiians who have rights to the land while leaving others they can simply evict later?

    This insurance adjuster who specializes in fires calls Maui an attack, not a wildfire.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Bz64JZGyR1a
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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Another good interview with Shelby Thomson. The interview starts at 4:30 if you want to skip the intro girl.



    The YouTube description: Joining me once again today is Shelby Thomson, co-founder of Unjected, here to discuss updates from the ground regarding the Maui fires and some even more compelling evidence that foul play was involved. We discuss numerous data points that clearly suggest a cover up; but the question remains: what exactly is being covered up? Was this merely a diaster, that was horribly handled, and now being hidden to avoid liability? Or was this a disaster that was allowed to take place, even driven into reality, in order to remove people from land that has been long-sought by corporate interests and government entities? Or even worse, could this have been an outright attack that was executed on the people of Maui? We should not shy away from asking these tough questions, in any circumstance, let along when there is this much evidence of manipulation. However, it is important, paramount, that we do not assume or present our opinions as fact in such a devastating time. We must stick to what we can prove. And what we can prove at the moment is more than enough to put those responsible for the deaths of potentially thousands of people behind bars -- especially if we discover that many of the theories about far darker actions that might have been carried out, are proven to be true.
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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Another local speaking up.


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Oko8eJZjcGOv

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    This insurance adjuster who specializes in fires calls Maui an attack, not a wildfire.
    Extended version of video at post #408, hmmmmm, what do you guys think?


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ku3r4yxzS2K3

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    What might be a worthwhile task is researching how one might disrupt a nanowave? energy.

    If you can cancel sound by simply inverting the wave and playing in synch it may be possible to disrupt such energy waves with interference?

    good thinking.... in the meantime it looks like wearing blue and painting everything in sight blue might be helpful when under micro~wave / laser attack... wonder if the harm of 5G could be alleviated in this way...?
    Not sure if this topic has already been covered, but there is talk that a blue-coloured laser was used. I wanted to double check this with some other industry and this sounds more plausible.

    Check out this paragraph from a laser cutting Acrylic supplier website.

    https://www.xtool.com/blogs/xtool-ac...utting-acrylic

    Quote Although a laser cutter can indeed cut or engrave acrylic, factors such as the type of laser machine, acrylic type, and acrylic color must be considered. Acrylic laser cutting or engraving depends on the laser's wavelength and color. For example, blue lasers cannot cut blue acrylic, as the blue color reflects the blue laser, preventing absorption and temperature increase. Likewise, clear acrylic cannot be cut using a blue laser, as the beams pass through the material without absorption.
    Just a thought.

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Quote Posted by Szymon (here)
    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    What might be a worthwhile task is researching how one might disrupt a nanowave? energy.

    If you can cancel sound by simply inverting the wave and playing in synch it may be possible to disrupt such energy waves with interference?

    good thinking.... in the meantime it looks like wearing blue and painting everything in sight blue might be helpful when under micro~wave / laser attack... wonder if the harm of 5G could be alleviated in this way...?
    Not sure if this topic has already been covered, but there is talk that a blue-coloured laser was used. I wanted to double check this with some other industry and this sounds more plausible.

    Check out this paragraph from a laser cutting Acrylic supplier website.

    https://www.xtool.com/blogs/xtool-ac...utting-acrylic

    Quote Although a laser cutter can indeed cut or engrave acrylic, factors such as the type of laser machine, acrylic type, and acrylic color must be considered. Acrylic laser cutting or engraving depends on the laser's wavelength and color. For example, blue lasers cannot cut blue acrylic, as the blue color reflects the blue laser, preventing absorption and temperature increase. Likewise, clear acrylic cannot be cut using a blue laser, as the beams pass through the material without absorption.
    Just a thought.

    and I just had a thought about why GREEN trees sometimes seem to escape the fires (at least initially)...

    Green is generally a mixture of the two primary colours (wavelengths) yellow and BLUE..... perhaps the blue gives protection to some shades of natural green...?....preventing absorption -


    edit to add.... trees and natural greenery would burn if they were engulfed in normal flames that spread out from the highly 'damaged' areas - but might survive in the Ground Zero area where houses, cars and people were destroyed....?
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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Project Blue Beam. Here's the recent Reese report:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JZQxjjn0rWYk


    And here's updated Google Maps showing Lahaina, more strangeness:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/6lqA7fzOIYOI

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    Think we need to examine all the fires happening now to get clues into what happened at Maui.

    The Bush Creek East fire in BC is mapped at 43,000 hectacres, over a hundred homes destroyed and no idea when the evacuation orders will be lifted for some 3,700 properties. "We're seeing the trees compromised in ways they normally aren't. Our crews are looking at these trees, they look sound, they look solid, and then they touch it and it's hot, and so it's on fire on the inside. Those are things we're not normally facing."

    We saw this happen in the Paradise fire where trees burned from the inside. Don't microwaves burn things from the inside out?


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/II1h7gNZql9T


    Here's a link with a better quality video:

    https://globalnews.ca/video/9922264/...3000-hectares/

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

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    ... bumping this fellow's video where he mentions, among other things, that the trees LOOK fine right after the "fires"... but... they are DEAD!

    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    ...

    ... this features a forensic arborist who ended up concluding that the ground itself is conducting the "fires":

    LOOKING FOR CLUES in the CANADIAN FIRES - Forensic Arborist, Robert Brame 57:24
    First published at 18:40 UTC on August 27th, 2023.

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    ASTOUNDING photographic tour by master arborist, Robert Brame, of 38 fire-ravaged sites in the Western USA and Canada, each one showing definitively that they were started with directed energy weapons! This has direct relevance for what was just done to Lahaina on the island of Maui! Interview conducted by the great Peggy Hall of The Healthy American in June, 2023, prior to the attack on Maui.


    In support of Robert Brame's hypothesis, in the introduction of this Five Docs gathering, Cory Hillis explains some of the effects of building materials due to resonance with EMFs... then, Dr. P (at the 59:30 mark) recounts eye witnesses mentioning that they saw and experienced the fire coming out of the ground from underneath the floors... not through the roofs...

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    The people of Maui are fed up. The exchange at the end is golden.

    "Excuse me, okay, I appreciate your comments, again I do, but we really need to stick to the items on the agenda..."

    "I don't care about your agenda. You know what, your agenda can kiss my ass."


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/CWW0LVyOHBzh


    And I believe it was Pris who brought up the Smart Meter issue way back at the beginning of this thread, they can be used as a weapon also, probably why they forced them down our throats.


    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v3b1opm/?pub=4

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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

    CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS EXPLAINS LAND AND REAL ESTATE-STEALING TACTICS ON LAHAINA AND ELSEWHERE
    August 30, 2023
    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cat...and-elsewhere/


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jBn5Zt0tdWcQ/


    "In my opinion, Sasha Latypova’s Substack is one of the most important accounts on a platform with many excellent creators and I cannot more highly recommend that you Subscribe to Sasha Latypova’s Substack!https://substack.com/@sashalatypova

    Her latest post includes a video interview she did with Catherine Austin Fitts – another one of my favorite people and you can subscribe to her Solari Report here.
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    Catherine Austin Fitts is a legend who needs no introduction. She has an incredible amount of knowledge and experience, both as an investment banker and working in government, and then being prosecuted by the government (former Assistant Secy of Housing) for trying to uncover and fight corruption. She is currently the publisher of the Solari Report. https://home.solari.com/

    I set up this conversation because I wanted to learn about the tactics that the criminal mafia posing as US federal and state governments are currently using against the people. We focus on the US, but many of my readers can probably recognize these tactics being applied all over the world. The goal of the criminal cabal is well advertised: “save the planet, reduce carbon” by which they mean “we need all the real assets and resources for ourselves, and fewer of you plebs around”.

    While this attitude toward the people has been consistent, they have been very careful in hiding the true intent behind nice sounding slogans. This is easy to do when the times are good, financially speaking. When the bubble is being inflated by the central banking hot air, few people will question it or look too closely at the financial machinations. CAF did and was prosecuted for it.

    The times are different now. We are at the end of the financial musical chairs game. All that “leverage” is about to un-lever very rapidly, the fake money will turn out to be, well – fake! The cabal are desperate to grab the real stuff. Attractive land is some of the most “real” of the real stuff. They are quite willing to burn and murder for it, as we have seen in Lahaina, HI, Paradise, CA and elsewhere.

    Below is a note from Catherine on the tactics the government typically uses to drive people off the land they want and into the “enclosures” they prepare for them. This approach has been used consistently, starting with the Native Americans, continuing with the poor Black and immigrant neighborhoods, and now into the middle class areas that billionaires desire:

    Moving people to quarantine is good if you want to install things – but if you are stealing real estate it gets pretty obvious pretty quick. Better to scare them out so they pay their own expenses of going elsewhere. As much as possible, you want “free range” solutions.

    Based on what I saw at HUD and during the pandemic, tactics depend on local jurisdictions (local laws, local resources) as well as the covert operations they choose to use locally at the same time. The success of the operations depend on several lines acting in concert: intelligence/surveillance, government in health area, banks and insurance companies, media, real estate developers and investors. This coordination already exists in the management of places, but it is hard for most people to see or fathom. The sweet spot is the amount of real estate that can be picked up and the capital gains this translated into for investors, public traded company etc and the political donations that flow to politicians from capital gains.

    Tactics revolve around various options of getting fee title to land and real estate:

    1. Force a sale: Do things that shut down private business and personal income and or lower the value of the real estate (including by radically increasing costs, like cost of remediation or requiring installation in new sewer systems or equipment etc) and/or permit the cancellation of insurance. A lot of helpful tactics can be applied through lenders, banks and insurance providers who are playing ball.

    2. Condemnation to deal with “pathogens” [this is what WHO Pandemic Treaty aims to do among other enslavement things]

    3. Eminent domain – prices will be much lower presumably after the “pathogens” are found

    4. Emergency money to help – except all the money goes to “insiders” who are moving in or are playing local person helping the insiders move in and take over

    5. Supporting media- very gaslighting – see video here for example.

    6. Poisoning – poisoning of individuals or failures of water systems will cause disability and death which are likely to force sales

    In all cases you want to keep things as complex as possible under the guise of “helping” – you will have heavy surveillance of all parties and your covert operations and media in combination can take care of isolating or compromising individual parties who are slowing you down or stopping you. Covert operations will by and large be done by or through corporate contractors and mob (drug cartels)

    I suspect they have perfected a lot of the tactics using response to weather warfare “natural disasters”.

    In closing, quoting Catherine, you have to be a wealth builder in your mind. You cannot succumb to the mentality of doom and victimhood, no matter what. I hope we have conveyed this in our discussion.

    As always, please share with your friends and family. We discussed several approaches to stay safe and preserve your assets/rights. Do not get into “we are doomed” mindset. We are not doomed. We have solutions, we can work with what we have and build resilient support networks. Most importantly, as you shake the sleepers out of their stupor, the cabal loses more and more of its willing foot soldiers. Do not comply."
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: Hawaii, Maui: Lahaina has been wiped off the map

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    We saw this happen in the Paradise fire where trees burned from the inside. Don't microwaves burn things from the inside out?
    Just a pause to consider...in a lightning strike, trees will burn from the inside. This does happen, and frequently.

    It's mostly down to the tree's interior which is, well, wood, and thats obviously combustible -- tree bark on the other hand is fire-resistant. Hence one reason why a burning tree may look almost normal from the outside. Another reason is often fungus that rots a tree's interior, making a swiss-cheese of dry, open cavities. In these instances a burning tree will act like a chimney, with the outside intact and the inside burning away. Eventually, when there's little structure left to support it, the tree will collapse.
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