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    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    Quote Posted by triquetra (here)
    Quote Posted by John Hilton (here)
    Disney reckons it's:

    Magic mirror on the wall
    Who is the fairest of them all?

    But I learned it as

    Mirror mirror on the wall
    Who is the fairest of them all?

    ...which also agrees with the German version that I learned when young:

    Spiegel spiegel an der Wand
    Wer ist die schoenste im ganzen Land

    Anyone else remember it?
    Yes, remember it as "mirror mirror" as well. One thing to look into is whether the same people have the same Mandela Effect's, but that would be a very difficult study to pull off.

    Embedding here in case it triggers anyone else as being "wrong". As the comments there suggest, a lot of people remember it differently, not the original story but the Disney movie specifically, and they also remember the ending to be "of them all" not "one of all". There are just too many small differences from too many separate Mandella effects to ignore. This is enough to give confidence to those who remember so many things differently. One or two things, perhaps the imagination, faulty memory, etc. But with enough differences, one becomes suspicious there is something to this after all.


    I think there are some patterns emerging already:

    - The Mandella Effects are generally about things from decades ago - a possibly collective crossing of major branches of timelines by a small but not insignificantly small group of souls.
    - They are indeed about things that don't have a strong impact on the world but are memorable enough not to ignore. If "higher self you" wanted to send yourself a message across parallel timelines, this would be a good way to do it

    There must be value in knowing the true nature of reality, a reality that reflects this possibility. This is something I have been pursuing for some time. What is the relationship between our higher self counterparts, and our lower selves in this simulation of multiple parallel timelines with minor differences? What is our purpose for putting ourselves down here, or for leaving breadcrumbs when jumping from one major branch of timelines to another?


    Anyhow, to anyone not believing in the effect - there is no reason you should believe in it if you did not participate in the jump. There's no point arguing about whether it's real in that case. It most likely happened to only small numbers of people and they are the ones remembering the differences, and willing to bet absolutely anything, the memory of the difference is so vivid.
    Hi, Triquetra.

    What if they're not all small details. I know this is going to sound mental but please humour me. For me the planet is changing and I'm not the only one who remembers it differently. I searched to see if I could find anyone who remembers any changes to Australia and found an American woman who studied maps of Australia a lot because she wanted to travel here and would plan her trip according to where everything she wanted to see is. She listed nine differences she and her sister remember and I remember six of them exactly as they do. We remember smaller differences in the coastline but also remember larger changes like the location of cities.

    The planet has changed in other places in the world too and two of them occurred in the past couple of years. The size of nations has changed, the location of continents, and the location of Budapest has changed.

    What would you make of that? The effect of large changes has more of a distressing effect, I'd really appreciate a reply from you about this.

    Thanks for all your posts BTW, I can't say I comprehend everything you write but I'm going through your posts and the clarity you have on these topics is really helpful.
    Have been waiting for some additional context to arrive (from the "Other Side", let's say) myself to provide better context to the often cryptic messages I leave on this forum, time-related glitches mean cause-effect reversal and so leaving breadcrumbs somewhere like Avalon is the best compromise.

    Bill Ryan kind of hit the nail on the head that the bulk of mass Mandela Effect reports were timeboxed to a window of time when the most manipulation of the simulation of the type that would cause the Mandela Effect was taking place (from within the simulation, that is, you can't really consider the interface between the outside of the simulation to the inside to be "manipulation").

    After moving on from that type of internal hacking, we see evidence of other types of glitches rather than the Mandela Effect, instead (see the Very Weird Stuff! thread in this sub-forum, for example).

    So outside of that time window, that leaves the glitches experienced by the increasingly few, which depending on time window experienced as related to "pre-ripples" or "post-ripples" of the more mass-experienced anomalies (since linear time is very much an illusion experienced only by 3D and lower densities).

    This is not to discount the relevance of these for the individual, such as yourself, but it is important to understand that the rarity of experiencing certain Mandela Effects is important when trying to study the Mandela Effect generally (since this is the "What Does It Mean?" sub-forum, I presume the goal is to actually solve that question for each thread topic).

    If your experiences extend your view of these distortions to the extremes of the eye-shaped distortion window, then you are probably among the most sensitive to perceiving such distortions - a confusing ability until it can be wielded more skilfully.
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    Here's another one. Anyone else remember this incident differently?


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    Quote Posted by triquetra (here)
    [Have been waiting for some additional context to arrive (from the "Other Side", let's say) myself to provide better context to the often cryptic messages I leave on this forum, time-related glitches mean cause-effect reversal and so leaving breadcrumbs somewhere like Avalon is the best compromise.

    Bill Ryan kind of hit the nail on the head that the bulk of mass Mandela Effect reports were timeboxed to a window of time when the most manipulation of the simulation of the type that would cause the Mandela Effect was taking place (from within the simulation, that is, you can't really consider the interface between the outside of the simulation to the inside to be "manipulation").

    After moving on from that type of internal hacking, we see evidence of other types of glitches rather than the Mandela Effect, instead (see the Very Weird Stuff! thread in this sub-forum, for example).

    So outside of that time window, that leaves the glitches experienced by the increasingly few, which depending on time window experienced as related to "pre-ripples" or "post-ripples" of the more mass-experienced anomalies (since linear time is very much an illusion experienced only by 3D and lower densities).

    This is not to discount the relevance of these for the individual, such as yourself, but it is important to understand that the rarity of experiencing certain Mandela Effects is important when trying to study the Mandela Effect generally (since this is the "What Does It Mean?" sub-forum, I presume the goal is to actually solve that question for each thread topic).

    If your experiences extend your view of these distortions to the extremes of the eye-shaped distortion window, then you are probably among the most sensitive to perceiving such distortions - a confusing ability until it can be wielded more skilfully.
    OK, TY.

    I've been watching Australia and it keeps moving up. I sensed Australia would continue to move up further and it has (it's higher since my previous post BTW), so I'm reasonably confident now that it will continue to move up because I feel it hasn't finished moving yet and it should move quite a bit more if what I'm seeing about this is correct.

    So I might have a rare opportunity here to prove it pretty simply because I'm effectively predicting a future Mandela effect that others can observe and we don't even need a precise setting because I feel it will keep moving quite a bit more, a clearly observable amount.

    The map below was published in 1894 and reflects the changes I've observed, that being Australia was much lower, it also matches other maps, so that should sort out the map issue argument.



    Here's a link to the source of that map: https://www.gettyimages.com.au/detai...?adppopup=true

    OK, so note that Tasmania is below the pink line I've marked the map with. Also note that the bottom of Australia is lower than the bottom of Africa. If I'm correct, Australia should at least come up enough for the bottom of Australia to be in line with the bottom of Africa (I'm expecting further). Please file that into your memory, I don't know if my wording in this post will change or if the grid on the map will change.

    Ignore South America for now in relation to Australia, it's been moving south-east and I feel like that's going to keep going east from there and then up.

    I'll keep an eye on it and bump this post if it happens.

    EDIT: I've marked the same image below with a pink line joining the most western tip of Australia with the most eastern tip of Java. I want to see if we can catch Australia moving west or rotating, in case that happens. At this time Australia's western tip is about one mm to the west of Java's eastern tip (not enlarged).

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    Australia, it's been moving south-east and I feel like that's going to keep going east from there and then up.
    Just a note. Is it possible you're remembering the position from a different map projection?

    The one you posted is the Mercator projection, which is just one of many different map projection styles out there. Each one involves quite a different set of distortion metrics. Flat representations of spherical planes is a complicated business. The Robinson projection (below) is another style and in it, Australia does look a little more wayward and southerly than in Mercator.



    This gif below compares the large degree of cartographic projection distortion with the actual relative size of each country.

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    Australia, it's been moving south-east and I feel like that's going to keep going east from there and then up.
    Just a note. Is it possible you're remembering the position from a different map projection?

    The one you posted is the Mercator projection, which is just one of many different map projection styles out there. Each one involves quite a different set of distortion metrics. Flat representations of spherical planes is a complicated business. The Robinson projection (below) is another style and in it, Australia does look a little more wayward and southerly than in Mercator.



    This gif below compares the large degree of cartographic projection distortion with the actual relative size of each country.

    This is a good point and one reason I don't base my own ME status on the disparities I see on today's maps, although for sure they are there including places I lived.

    The whole aspect of maps, how distorted they are, the false picture they convey of this realm is a rabbit hole in itself. Adding the ME just makes for more confusion.

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    With respect, guys, I'm not a moron.

    The changes are far too big for maps to be a factor. To give you an idea of how big, we are called the land down under because we were literally the (as in singular) land down under.

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    Quote Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
    P.S. What's a ME status?
    Mandela Effect.

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    Mandela Effect.
    Hi there! Yeah, but what's the term ME status mean? Is he referring to whether he's experienced it or not or referring to a list of MEs, or what?
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    Mandela Effect.
    Hi there! Yeah, but what's the term ME status mean? Is he referring to whether he's experienced it or not or referring to a list of MEs, or what?
    Sorry, I was using it as a lazy shorthand for being Mandela affected - basically I'm saying that I don't lead on the map Mandela effects in my own list of ME's, although they are there and 'down under' is a part of it.

    and I don't think you're a moron either, hope that didn't come across in my reply to Mark.

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    Mandela Effect.
    Hi there! Yeah, but what's the term ME status mean? Is he referring to whether he's experienced it or not or referring to a list of MEs, or what?
    Sorry, I was using it as a lazy shorthand for being Mandela affected - basically I'm saying that I don't lead on the map Mandela effects in my own list of ME's, although they are there and 'down under' is a part of it.

    and I don't think you're a moron either, hope that didn't come across in my reply to Mark.
    No, no! No need for apologies, if anyone should apologise it's me. I've learned I need to dilute my Aussie-ness when communicating internationally for exactly this reason and didn't quite hit the mark (I'm a very Aussie Australian, efficient communicators between each other but often seem too harsh to others).

    It was clear to me both you and Mark took care to not offend, so I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and any discomfort. What I was saying was that I'd have to be pretty dumb to post that without considering the variations between maps (I'd also have to be deluded due to the psychic context). Anyway, I should have just left that out.

    Now to your reply about your post. Got it, TY, now I'm clear on what you meant in your post.

    No, I think it's important to not discard any MEs because of variations in maps, due to the gravity of the nature of those MEs. We're talking about entire continents changing location, that's way out there on the 'that's nuts' scale and the maps issue is insignificant compared to that, especially if the changes are much bigger than the variations between maps.

    I suspect it's what Triquetra termed internal hacking and feel there's a significant agenda behind this, which I'll mention if I can actually show that the locations are changing. I also find Triquetra's comment about time glitches and the reversal of cause and effect interesting because I was also struck by a sense that the land masses are shifting in reverse. I think to provide certain conditions for something that was in ancient times (that's mostly conjecture ATM).

    I think this set-up is simple enough but also covers all bases like possible changes to scale of grid and any variations of memory between individuals. If anyone can point out a flaw in the experiment I'd appreciate the input (I promise to use my global voice ).
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    What is the Mandela Effect? Here's an explanation that makes more and more sense by the day: it's a Deep State psyop, a gaslighting operation. It's an operation meant to con people's awareness -- to mess with people's perception of reality in order to find out just how much they, the globalists, can historically and culturally change while they manufacture a new false history and culture to replace the original one. Meantime, the Deep State -- which is currently 'secretly' at war with the people of multiple nations -- uses the information it gathers to perform the operation of actually erasing existing culture and history in order to undermine and destroy those specific nations it targets.

    "A nation that has no past has no future." In war, they say the victor writes the history. The globalists, a cabal of psychopathic criminals, are in the process of rewriting history. This is why we are seeing the tearing down of monuments, the destruction of tradition, the eroding of ethics, morals, and family values, the removal of individual rights and freedom, and the vilifying of nationalism and populism. All that is being relentlessly replaced with a fear-driven, debased, abusive, harmful, divided, abnormal, dysfunctional and perverted death-cult (democidal) version to suit the NWO (Nazi World Order) agenda. They get away with pushing pure insanity (like the manufactured/steered 'LGBTQ movement' and the 'man-made climate change' scam, eco-terrorism) by normalizing insanity. This incredible evil is achieved by controlling all information and media outlets while infiltrating all levels of society as they (the puppets for the Deep State) pretend to be the trustworthy, benevolent, authoritative voices and a force for good. It's entirely coordinated. And, they would not be so successful if it weren't for all the people who buy into the narrative and help them achieve it. Order Out of Chaos, Ordo Ab Chao.





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    I apologize, if video is already in here... yesterday bumped into.. video is from 2017...

    13 year old Genius explains his theory of what the Mandela effect is!!

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    Gee... I can't help but think that somehow I'm over the target on this one. Nobody has posted in this thread since September. I come in and post something. Lo and behold, right after I post, I'm shadowed by a particular someone in an attempt, it seems, to undermine what I just put up by posting a dubious video... Fascinating.

    (I noticed the comments are switched off on that particular video they posted, how convenient. And, there's no way to determine how many dislikes it has because YouTube recently removed that feature so we can no longer see just how unpopular something is.)




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    What is the Mandela Effect? Here's an explanation that makes more and more sense by the day: it's a Deep State psyop, a gaslighting operation. It's an operation meant to con people's awareness -- to mess with people's perception of reality in order to find out just how much they, the globalists, can change while they manufacture a new false history and culture to replace the original one. Meantime, the Deep State -- which is currently 'secretly' at war with the people of multiple nations -- uses the information it gathers to perform the operation of actually erasing existing culture and history in order to undermine and destroy those specific nations it targets.

    "A nation that has no past has no future." In war, they say the victor writes the history. The globalists, a cabal of psychopathic criminals, are in the process of rewriting history. This is why we are seeing the tearing down of monuments, the destruction of tradition, the eroding of ethics, morals, and family values, the removal of individual rights and freedom, and the vilifying of nationalism and populism. All that is being relentlessly replaced with a fear-driven, debased, abusive, harmful, divided, abnormal, dysfunctional and perverted death-cult (democidal) version to suit the NWO (Nazi World Order) agenda. They get away with pushing pure insanity (like the manufactured/steered 'LGBTQ movement' and the 'man-made climate change' scam, eco-terrorism) by normalizing insanity. This incredible evil is achieved by controlling all information and media outlets while infiltrating all levels of society as they (the puppets for the Deep State) pretend to be the trustworthy, benevolent, authoritative voices and a force for good. It's entirely coordinated. And, they would not be so successful if it weren't for all the people who buy into the narrative and help them achieve it. Order Out of Chaos, Ordo Ab Chao.





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    I like where your going with this and I agree with the sentiment 100%.

    Whitney Web said something to the effect that

    The Globalists want a one world government and to do this they need passive pliable people.
    How do you get pliable easy to program people?

    You attack and break down their identity.
    You make them question their allegiance to their country.
    You make them ashamed of who they are of their race.
    You make them question their gender continuously.
    You make them question how to addressee people.
    You make them question their sexuality.
    You make them question their existence and push atheism.
    You take away faith in God, the medical field, the education system.

    So what you are saying here makes sense.
    Take away faith in history and a personal connection with it.

    It makes sense and it's a great addition to this thread.

    I'm personally of the opinion there is something to the Mandela Effect and that it is something seperate from a government psy-op but I can see your point for sure.

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    .

    What is the Mandela Effect? Here's an explanation that makes more and more sense by the day: it's a Deep State psyop, a gaslighting operation. It's an operation meant to con people's awareness -- to mess with people's perception of reality in order to find out just how much they, the globalists, can change while they manufacture a new false history and culture to replace the original one. Meantime, the Deep State -- which is currently 'secretly' at war with the people of multiple nations -- uses the information it gathers to perform the operation of actually erasing existing culture and history in order to undermine and destroy those specific nations it targets.

    "A nation that has no past has no future." In war, they say the victor writes the history. The globalists, a cabal of psychopathic criminals, are in the process of rewriting history. This is why we are seeing the tearing down of monuments, the destruction of tradition, the eroding of ethics, morals, and family values, the removal of individual rights and freedom, and the vilifying of nationalism and populism. All that is being relentlessly replaced with a fear-driven, debased, abusive, harmful, divided, abnormal, dysfunctional and perverted death-cult (democidal) version to suit the NWO (Nazi World Order) agenda. They get away with pushing pure insanity (like the manufactured/steered 'LGBTQ movement' and the 'man-made climate change' scam, eco-terrorism) by normalizing insanity. This incredible evil is achieved by controlling all information and media outlets while infiltrating all levels of society as they (the puppets for the Deep State) pretend to be the trustworthy, benevolent, authoritative voices and a force for good. It's entirely coordinated. And, they would not be so successful if it weren't for all the people who buy into the narrative and help them achieve it. Order Out of Chaos, Ordo Ab Chao.





    https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/111682029697245480
    I like where your going with this and I agree with the sentiment 100%.

    Whitney Web said something to the effect that

    The Globalists want a one world government and to do this they need passive pliable people.
    How do you get pliable easy to program people?

    You attack and break down their identity.
    You make them question their allegiance to their country.
    You make them ashamed of who they are of their race.
    You make them question their gender continuously.
    You make them question how to addressee people.
    You make them question their sexuality.
    You make them question their existence and push atheism.
    You take away faith in God, the medical field, the education system.

    So what you are saying here makes sense.
    Take away faith in history and a personal connection with it.

    It makes sense and it's a great addition to this thread.

    I'm personally of the opinion there is something to the Mandela Effect and that it is something seperate from a government psy-op but I can see your point for sure.

    Thanks. The one thing you said I must differ on is you saying there is something to the Mandela Effect. To leave that door open, in my opinion, is what allows the psyop to run amok and do its damage. It's the same for the "Flat Earth" psyop. The same goes for "crop circles" which I also think is a psyop. And, so on and so on. Absolutely, the Deep State is laughing at us. The globalists have been implementing their plans and orchestrating/manipulating events and steering society to their advantage for decades if not centuries. Contemptible and soulless, they are expert manipulators.

    They have us wasting our time, misdirected, fighting one another over these subjects while they take over our nations.
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    ... Fascinating.
    my thoughts exactly -

    I agree with everything you've said about the 'Mandela Effect' in your posts here...

    'They' must be preparing for future tampering with memories and history....setting the scene... for example in 20,30,40 + years time they could be planning to 'clean up' the internet and portray Biden as some Saint like person who has all their marbles ....not the doddering old liar that he is.... and Trump..? They will change it all around to make HIM look like the Baddie... calling for insurrection as his supporters stormed the Capital and falsely claimed the 2020 election was rigged... ... .... *

    I've got a thread going about Mind Control and the Hippocampus - the Hippocampus is the Brain's centre of memory and 'they' could be tampering with the Hippocampus (jabs and maybe other ways...) .... trying to wipe long term memory and replace it with 'their' version of reality + history -


    I confess I haven't read all the posts in this thread and I haven't given the subject of the ME much attention - mainly because I instinctively feel it's probably BS -

    some time in the future...(maybe/maybe not)...Mirror Mirror on the wall......who was the Fascist one of all..... why Trump of course because Biden was a lovely, honest old man JUST trying to save America from the evil MAGA mob....


    Not saying the Nazi World Order will actually get away with all the BS...but they are going to have a blummin' good try... and looks like inventing the Mandela Effect is part of that effort...

    cheers

    edit to add the asterisk

    *.... of course 'they' are constantly doing that now - but not enough people believe the lies yet - so they will need a Mandela Effect boost in the not too distant future....... or at least that's what they are working towards - (if they get away with all the BS and nonsense...)
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    .
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    .
    .

    What is the Mandela Effect? Here's an explanation that makes more and more sense by the day: it's a Deep State psyop, a gaslighting operation. It's an operation meant to con people's awareness -- to mess with people's perception of reality in order to find out just how much they, the globalists, can change while they manufacture a new false history and culture to replace the original one. Meantime, the Deep State -- which is currently 'secretly' at war with the people of multiple nations -- uses the information it gathers to perform the operation of actually erasing existing culture and history in order to undermine and destroy those specific nations it targets.

    "A nation that has no past has no future." In war, they say the victor writes the history. The globalists, a cabal of psychopathic criminals, are in the process of rewriting history. This is why we are seeing the tearing down of monuments, the destruction of tradition, the eroding of ethics, morals, and family values, the removal of individual rights and freedom, and the vilifying of nationalism and populism. All that is being relentlessly replaced with a fear-driven, debased, abusive, harmful, divided, abnormal, dysfunctional and perverted death-cult (democidal) version to suit the NWO (Nazi World Order) agenda. They get away with pushing pure insanity (like the manufactured/steered 'LGBTQ movement' and the 'man-made climate change' scam, eco-terrorism) by normalizing insanity. This incredible evil is achieved by controlling all information and media outlets while infiltrating all levels of society as they (the puppets for the Deep State) pretend to be the trustworthy, benevolent, authoritative voices and a force for good. It's entirely coordinated. And, they would not be so successful if it weren't for all the people who buy into the narrative and help them achieve it. Order Out of Chaos, Ordo Ab Chao.





    https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/111682029697245480
    I like where your going with this and I agree with the sentiment 100%.

    Whitney Web said something to the effect that

    The Globalists want a one world government and to do this they need passive pliable people.
    How do you get pliable easy to program people?

    You attack and break down their identity.
    You make them question their allegiance to their country.
    You make them ashamed of who they are of their race.
    You make them question their gender continuously.
    You make them question how to addressee people.
    You make them question their sexuality.
    You make them question their existence and push atheism.
    You take away faith in God, the medical field, the education system.

    So what you are saying here makes sense.
    Take away faith in history and a personal connection with it.

    It makes sense and it's a great addition to this thread.

    I'm personally of the opinion there is something to the Mandela Effect and that it is something seperate from a government psy-op but I can see your point for sure.

    Thanks. The one thing you said I must differ on is you saying there is something to the Mandela Effect. To leave that door open, in my opinion, is what allows the psyop to run amok and do its damage. It's the same for the "Flat Earth" psyop. The same goes for "crop circles" which I also think is a psyop. And, so on and so on. Absolutely, the Deep State is laughing at us. The globalists have been implementing their plans and orchestrating/manipulating events and steering society to their advantage for decades if not centuries. Contemptible and soulless, they are expert manipulators.

    They have us wasting our time, misdirected, fighting one another over these subjects while they take over our nations.

    Flat Earth is a psyop yes.
    Mandela Effect I do not believe it is a psyop.

    There are things that stand out that are absolutely different from present understanding.
    For me anyway.
    Things that matter considerably more than advertising logos.

    I for instance remember Hitler having brown eyes.
    I remember as a nine year old boy questioning teachers and my parents and my grand parents and having long conversations about how it didn't make sense his (Hitler) thinking blue eyed and blond haired people were so elevated and prestigious given he had brown hair and brown eyes.
    Now Hitler has blue eyes.
    This is a real head scratcher for me.
    Hitler had Brown eyes and now their blue.

    Also
    This doesn't seem to be out of the realm of possibility for me.
    I've come across enough data that makes this whole thing feel plausible for me.
    I'm not saying this is the case 100%
    But I certainly don't think the Deep State could have secured every recording of the empire strikes back and changed the lines. Same thing with song lyrics as well.

    I'm not saying you're wrong Priss but maybe leave room for possibility especially until you've explored this topic enough to know you don't have any personal experiences that correlate with the Mandela Effect yourself

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    But I certainly don't think the Deep State could have secured every recording of the empire strikes back and changed the lines. Same thing with song lyrics as well.

    As I said before I haven't looked deeply into this subject - but re what you said above - first I would ask if all the info about this came THROUGH the internet.... ie claims from individuals and examples....

    I would also consider that there could have been preparation around this particular film to boost belief in the Mandela Effect...

    Also want to add that if there IS something a bit wobbly about time sometimes ---- it could, maybe, praps be connected to (caused by?) all the space/time ripping nuclear tests... of which, it is said there have been 2056 since 1945....

    Most of those tests were more than likely to do with experiments in space and time (including travel).... and not as we are encouraged to believe, for nuclear weapons....

    so I suppose another angle on the ME could be that the time warps and wobbles maybe caused by the nuclear tests are covered up by the concept of the ME....

    just a thought...

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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    But I certainly don't think the Deep State could have secured every recording of the empire strikes back and changed the lines. Same thing with song lyrics as well.

    As I said before I haven't looked deeply into this subject - but re what you said above - first I would ask if all the info about this came THROUGH the internet.... ie claims from individuals and examples....

    I would also consider that there could have been preparation around this particular film to boost belief in the Mandela Effect...

    Also want to add that if there IS something a bit wobbly about time sometimes ---- it could, maybe, praps be connected to (caused by?) all the space/time ripping nuclear tests... of which, it is said there have been 2056 since 1945....

    Most of those tests were more than likely to do with experiments in space and time (including travel).... and not as we are encouraged to believe, for nuclear weapons....

    so I suppose another angle on the ME could be that the time warps and wobbles maybe caused by the nuclear tests are covered up by the concept of the ME....

    just a thought...
    Have you ever watched Linda Moultan Howl"s documentary "a strange harvest".
    It's good.
    No it's absolutely amazing.
    Made in I believe 1980 give or take.

    Information all still relevant.
    At the end of the doc, a woman is hypnotized and regressed.
    This part is really good and relevant to your point.

    The woman and her teenage daughter are lying down unable to move on examination tables after being brought aboard a flying saucer with Greys that had also taken a cow

    The Greys produce extremely sharp keen knives and dispatch the animal slicing specific parts for further study.
    The abducted woman is screaming in terror believing she and her daughter are next.
    The Greys assure her she will not be hurt.
    They tell her that they are testing the effects of atomic bombs.
    That they come from a parallel dimension of earth and that their dimension has been negatively affected by the atomic bomb explosions on this world.

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    I can't say I followed everything he was talking about. I don't know if he's a genius or not. But he was using 'Magic Mirror on the wall' as an example, where many remember 'Mirror Mirror on the wall'. This isn't a Mandela effect.

    'Mirror Mirror on the wall' is a variation on the original phrase and has been referenced in TV, films, and books many times over the decades. Like the film Mirror, Mirror (1979), also Mirror Mirror (1990), and the comedy Mirror Mirror from 2012 starring Julia Roberts that was based on Snow White and uses the phrase Mirror Mirror on the wall in that film. It hasn't been changed, or 'erased' from the timeline.

    People just misremember, or get mixed up.

    Same for Star Wars and a million other examples of 'Mandela Effects'.

    Human memory is extremely pliable and prone to error. Constantly. In such an environment you don't need to run a psyop.

    That's not to say every instance is the same. I've experienced my own Mandela effect once or twice, and they are hard to resolve. There's a tiny chance -- at least in my mind -- something really is going with this phenomena, something we cannot easily explain.
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