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    Quote Posted by trenairio (here)
    I have a hunch that this false flag will never happen. This is just too far out there.
    Statements like that signify exactly why mainstream science is no longer applicable (if indeed it ever was). In other words dismissing something just because it doesn't seem likely is not in the spirit of a true researcher/scientist. One must have more evidence to back up his disbelief other than "This is just too far out there". Why, any thinking outside the mainstream ideology is considered by most "Too far out there", but alas most of us here have come to accept that way of thinking as real life

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    The quickening and increase in disclosiure is a sign that something is on the boil. the question is , Whats in the pot ?

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    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    The quickening and increase in disclosiure is a sign that something is on the boil. the question is , Whats in the pot ?
    Not to mention FEMA's mad stockpiling..

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-stock-piling

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    Harley Hawkins' False Flag Article - Personal Time-Line Of Events
    (as related to the Charles material)

    Harley Hawkins
    08 FEB 2011

    12 DEC 2010:

    1. Original date of writing.

    2. While preparing to submit my article to a private group I remembered a live interactive conference with Bill was scheduled, and it struck me that if I could get Bill to explain the concept of the False Flag Scenario to the listeners it would be a great way to kick-off my article. So I decided to wait.

    14 DEC 2010:

    Bill Ryan - Project Avalon - Live Interactive Conference – Spectrum Radio Network:

    1. Question submitted:
    Quote Will you please explain to the audience what a False Flag Attack is, why would it be used, and possibly give an example.
    2. Bill had no prior knowledge of my article at this point in time, and in-fact sounded just a little “caught off guard” by my question, as can be detected in the very beginning of his response.

    3. Part 3 starting at 04:30:



    4. Excellent response, btw! Thank you Bill!

    15 DEC 2010:

    1. Submitted article to private group.

    2. Bill messaged me asking if I'd like to publish it to the open forum. I replied yes.

    3. I waited five days because I first wanted to check on my information, do a little more research, and prepare my article for “public presentation”.

    18 DEC 2010:

    1. Bill met with Charles and conducted their first video interview.

    2. At this point in time, Charles had no knowledge of my article. If I had not delayed the publishing of it, it very well may have been mentioned during their interview.

    3. At this point in time, and like everyone else, I had no knowledge of the Bill/Charles interview.

    20 DEC 2010:

    1. Published article to the open forum.

    2. Within only a few hours of posting I was quite shocked to receive a message from Charles.

    01 JAN 2011:

    1. Bill published to the forum The Rulers Of The World: A New Project Avalon Video Interview



    13 JAN 2011:

    1. Bill published to the forum Charles' Comments About A False Flag ET Threat Event: Important New Information



    HH
    Ok people ... please see the link above and the comments made by Charles to Harley's post.

    This does not seem to be written by Charles ... could have been dictated? The style is completely different from Charles' posts ... including spelling and punctuation.

    Just wondering ...
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    Quote Posted by trenairio (here)
    I have a hunch that this false flag will never happen. This is just too far out there.
    It is certainly outrageous, but much the same can be said of the situation in which we've all found ourselves in.

    I became enlightened to the concept of extraterrestrials when I was near the age of seven or eight. Playing the part of a clever child, I decided to ask my grandfather about flying saucers, figuring all adults talk of such things. I was a bit surprised when he took me to his desk; gave me several, large, black and white prints of disk-shaped craft to hold; and proceeded to describe how certain "families" have gotten hold of these disks via warfare, rebuilt them, and plan to take these craft into space.

    We had a few more of such conversations as the years went by, and referred to them as "talking philosophy." One must realize, that before these men can shoot into the stars with these craft, the populace below must be accepting and encouraging of such a feat. This can only happen if a certain catalyst occurs, supplying the needed reaction from the masses to gladly support such a daring, cosmic solution.

    Not only does the false flag, extraterrestrial event have the momentum of several decades, but it also carries with it the unification of an entire planet's population under the false premise of defeating an imagined enemy - boldly taking us to the stars in the process. One can only ponder what the reaction of the world would be in the event triangular craft filled the skies in a wave of malevolency. I don't believe the majority of people would question the spectacle, but instead, surrender all rights to remove these creatures from our skies, and seek a revenge against the hostile visitors. Problem solved, on many levels, yes?

    Yes, the notion of a false flag event involving imagined enemies of extraterrestrial origin is highly "far out," but considering the situation, one I've been grappling with since early childhood, it may be entirely around the corner.

    Now, I highly disagree with such trickery. I feel that as a civilization, we should not venture into deep space until we've matured enough to realize that in starting such a cosmic crusade, we're only injuring ourselves. Sadly, there is much momentum behind the future usage of these stolen toys. We may end up having to learn the difficult way.

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    You would have to assume that Charles operates in different modes. Most times he is very short and to the point. I dont think he reads over the short answers but when he delivers a longer response you can see he has read over it and used punctuation, or is at least being guided or prepared through this process by someone behind him. I personally believe that his involvement is to further develop his integration skill set amongst other things.

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    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    The quickening and increase in disclosiure is a sign that something is on the boil. the question is , Whats in the pot ?
    Not to mention FEMA's mad stockpiling..

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-stock-piling

    It is important to understand how TPTB work. they exist on hedging meaning they are prepared for the positive and negative of each outcome and have bets on both sides. They also change the typography of the game by manipulating factors to corral an outcome to their needs. In an emergency situation these rations could be sold at a premium. The only real way to avoid this control is to not play the game. Get uut of the loop and be indipendant or at least be part of a group that can survive with its own wits.

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    Quote Now, I highly disagree with such trickery. I feel that as a civilization, we should not venture into deep space until we've matured enough to realize that in starting such a cosmic crusade, we're only injuring ourselves. Sadly, there is much momentum behind the future usage of these stolen toys. We may end up having to learn the difficult way.
    Same page as you Dale I think, and if they do try to 'fake' it now with everything thats out there it is almost certain to fail. (I did say almost because I simply don't know) What I don't think they are seriously considering is a possible earlier intervention which could be either natural, earth/quantum or extra terestrial/dimensional. They (whoeverTPTB) are blinded by their own hubris and megalomania. It is their achilles heel.
    We look at some of the videos out there and does it bother us? Do we yet feel we 'need protecting' from ET? I seriously feel that everything is still on the table, they firstly need an element of surprise, if we (the community, all over the world) continue pre-empting their attempt at creativity of which they have little, (another achilles heel) then they are consistantly on the back foot. Hence their rush/panic to scare.

    ok rant over, everything I say may be complete rubish

    There is a lot of work to do on the collective psyche before we are fit to venture forth into the frontiers.
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    Posted by Dale:
    "Yes, the notion of a false flag event involving imagined enemies of extraterrestrial origin is highly "far out," but considering the situation, one I've been grappling with since early childhood, it may be entirely around the corner."


    Soooo ... in the year 2000 what would we have thought about the possibility of the take down of the Twin Towers?
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    Concerning the possibility of such an event, which I feel is quite likely still around the corner, it is highly interesting to note how the mass media portrays extraterrestrials through varying means.

    Take, for example, films. Following the release of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" in the late seventies, the depiction of extraterrestrials in films started to become more "human-like" in emotional and sociocultural ways. The visitors portrayed quite often expressed jealousy over love affairs, a knowledge of college humor, quick aggression, melodramatic takes on emotional matters, and other defining traits and peculiarities of modern humans. In other words, extraterrestrials have slowly been introduced as more-so "human-like" in recent years, via major motion pictures.

    In the event we are faced with an unknown counterpart from the far reaches of the cosmos - whether real or false flag - we will likely do two things. First, we will take what we know of our own human psyche and project that onto the visitors. Secondly, we will search for cues we've collected over the years with regard to extraterrestrials; both from the media and what we've gleaned from the "grapevine," so to speak. Since both options will lead to a general projecting of "human-like" traits onto the extraterrestrials, it would be no surprise that many will preemptively hold a view that the visitors in the skies are doing what any human would do when encountering a new area - scoping it out for their own purposes.

    The final nail in the old, pine coffin comes in here. If the mass media then reports the presence of malevolency in these visitors, the minds and hearts of the many masses would all be in agreement as to their intentions. A shot need not be fired from the "visitors," in the case of a false flag event, though such an action would only strengthen the preexisting mindsets. Human irrationality and the tweaking of our paradigms would likely already be enough to give many a sense of hostility toward anything in the skies above.

    With regard to extraterrestrials, however, it is fruitless to project human traits onto them. It is much similar to a goldfish projecting it's psyche onto the blurry figure outside of the glass who occasionally passes through the room. Such an event is impossible, quite obviously. The extraterrestrials are eons more advanced than we, and likely transcend the limits of modern physics - including time. If I travelled four hundred years into the past to display my iPhone to a peasant; would I be considered a god? A warlock? A devil?

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    Quote Posted by granny (here)
    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)

    1. Bill published to the forum Charles' Comments About A False Flag ET Threat Event: Important New Information

    HH
    Ok people ... please see the link above and the comments made by Charles to Harley's post.

    This does not seem to be written by Charles ... could have been dictated? The style is completely different from Charles' posts ... including spelling and punctuation.

    Just wondering ...
    Oh Boy! More Nit-Picking On Charles!

    While I have to wonder what the motive is for posting comments such as this here in the False Flag thread, I certainly do not mind explaining to anyone who does not understand Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in publishing.

    Here are some basic facts:
    • This post, submitted by Bill, is comprised of a copy of a personal email which I received from Charles.

    • I immediately forwarded this email in it's entirety to Bill and he replied almost immediately asking my permission to post, to which I replied with my permission on the condition that he also receive Charles' approval.

    • Bill edited this personal email for spelling, grammar, punctuation, and sensitive information (such as personally identifiable information, etc), and bolded Charles' comments so they would stand-out for the reader.

    • This editing is per SOP whenever publishing personal/private material. However the context of the material is not altered.

    Here are a couple of personal facts:
    • This email was the first personal comm that I had ever had with Charles. Of course there was more to this comm than what was published, but that was for me and me alone. This is why it's referred to as Personal E-Mail.

    • Because of what else was said and the way that it was said in this personal comm, I KNOW that this was indeed from Charles - The Person - and not from nor dictated to anyone else.

    • Since this was my personal email it only matters to me as to what I think, and it matters NOT what anyone else thinks. I really could care less!

    Sorry if I'm being blunt. But you know honesty is usually like that, isn't it?

    Have A Nice Day!

    Harley

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    Quote Posted by trenairio (here)
    I have a hunch that this false flag will never happen. This is just too far out there.
    Seems like this question should have also been asked of trenairio.
    Quote Posted by granny (here)
    Soooo ... in the year 2000 what would we have thought about the possibility of the take down of the Twin Towers?
    Sorry! Couldn't resist!

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    so no coincidences you chose 2000, one year before 9/11

    lucky nothing else is going on in 2012 then huh...

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    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    Quote Posted by Aldous (here)
    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    Hello Friends News just in . Do you get a feeling of burning in your chest or head and shoulders when on certain forums or certain clips on you tube ? This is caused by a low level frequency sent through and over to you via the screen and audio monitors. These frequencies are attuned to your chakra bases. they can make you feel anything from disoriented to nausious , drained , confused.

    What you can do is limit the time you spend on the screen, indeed if you walk away from your terminal and go have a cup of tea or water you will feel relief. You will notice it stronger on some clips on you tube than others, some none at all.

    Hope this is helpful .
    Could you offer a link to an example of a vid clip or something? Would be very curious to see that, I often get drained.

    Cheers,

    Aldous
    I have found with alternative media sites and videos mainly EG Alex Jones , Lindsay Williams,Canada street press, RT News. Things of that nature. mind you im very sensitive to these energies. they hit your Heart and Crown charcra. You can try making vibrational noises with your mouth, try humming vowels and varying the pitch, this can disrupt its effects.

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    News Just In Suggestions only , not definites.

    The night of the red skies

    Jets will fly right to left, ground vehicles with bright lights.

    They will dispense chemicals in the air and fire randomly upon.

    The rain ionised will bring virus to the ground, be careful around times of rain, cover the inhalation.

    Be in support groups and have early detection and retreat plan. DO NOT ENGAGE. Retreat and hide. Weapons are not recommended.

    Do not take the vaccine after it, it has no benefit.

    Fear is a control mechanism , be prepared and do not fear.

    An Earth Alliance will be present for observation.

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    To Harley and Nanoo Nanoo:

    What is your take on all these UFO vids surfacing that seem to be dumping glistening flare like objects? Is this the rain your talking about? If not , any Ideas what it may be? In turn, would these be us or them? Eg:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=SVWJu...embedded#at=24


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=RDDn1...layer_embedded

    Go to 1:12

    https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=zvUel_ZDRdY

    Go to 0:49

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1EG...layer_embedded

    Cheers,

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    Quote Posted by Aldous (here)
    To Harley and Nanoo Nanoo:

    What is your take on all these UFO vids surfacing that seem to be dumping glistening flare like objects? Is this the rain your talking about? If not , any Ideas what it may be? In turn, would these be us or them?

    Cheers,

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    I don't know what to make of it.

    But I do know that, although it's an anomaly that hasn't been often reported or captured until recently, it's nothing new!

    See this post that I just made HERE.

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    As Harley stated UFO sightings are nothing new. What they are doing is anybodies guess. You have to take into account that there are more people on the look out and more people reporting what they see. IMO if an object of such technology is seen its because it wants to be. What does that tell you ?

    Re Rain Falling : Its a common tool for years to spread viruses that they are sprayed into the atmosphere and when it rains it brings the virus to the ground. Thats the delivery mechanism. So when it rains cover up your inhalation is what that pertains to.

    As far as the video footage to me it looks like its dumping waste prior to going into orbit or changing propulsion configuration.

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    Quote Posted by Nanoo Nanoo (here)
    Hello Friends News just in . Do you get a feeling of burning in your chest or head and shoulders when on certain forums or certain clips on you tube ? This is caused by a low level frequency sent through and over to you via the screen and audio monitors. These frequencies are attuned to your chakra bases. they can make you feel anything from disoriented to nausious , drained , confused.

    What you can do is limit the time you spend on the screen, indeed if you walk away from your terminal and go have a cup of tea or water you will feel relief. You will notice it stronger on some clips on you tube than others, some none at all.

    Hope this is helpful .
    Hello friends i have found a video to substantiate my claim. Info starts at 11:30


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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    In this video Richard Boylan posits that the ufo sighting at the Dome of the Rock is a man-created ploy to plant the seeds for further false flag events. Thoughts? Comments?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=BqV86...eature=related

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    Quote Posted by kinerkid (here)
    In this video Richard Boylan posits that the ufo sighting at the Dome of the Rock is a man-created ploy to plant the seeds for further false flag events. Thoughts? Comments?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=BqV86...eature=related
    Here ya go:



    That's what I said too.

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Whenever a UFO video such as this comes out, and especially if it goes viral, the copy-cats and debunkers come out of the woodwork like crazy.



    But what's important to understand is, even if a video has been proven fake the end-effect on the public will still be the same. So it makes no difference whatsoever as to whether or not it's authentic.

    Because of that fact, another thing to note is how many of these videos are actually being posted by the "Black Hats"?

    Real or not, the results are the same.

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