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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712500567015063991



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    🇮🇱🇵🇸Israel has stopped supplying electricity and water to Al-Nagab prison, where Palestinian prisoners are being held - the non-governmental organization Committee for Palestinian Prisoners.

    According to the committee, there are about 5,100 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 36 women and 170 children.

    On Saturday, prison authorities isolated all Palestinian prisoners in their cells and blocked access to media and communications.

    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712498122247581821




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    🎼Gaza Strip, IDF aviation has worked again.

    By working with the civilian population, you will create those who have lost relatives and friends.

    And when those who have nothing more to lose due to attacks on civilians appear. They cultivate hatred, which will ultimately only give rise to revenge.

    WAGNER GROUP®
    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712499935969521784



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    Lindsey Graham Calls On The United States To Bomb Every Country In The World

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — As tensions escalate in the Middle East following the deadly terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham sought to resolve the conflict and restore peace to the region by calling for the United States to begin bombing every country in the world.

    "It's the only solution," Graham said to reporters while advocating for even more hostilities. "If we want to restore peace throughout the world, the only realistic answer is to lay waste to every single nation around the globe."

    "What about nations that have no involvement in the conflict?" asked reporter Michael Fuller.

    "They're all involved," Graham answered. "Bomb ‘em all. Gone. All of ‘em. Bombs, bombs, bombs. Burn it all down, baby!"

    "What about Paris?" Fuller asked.

    "Have you seen the demographics of their population?" Graham responded. "Bomb ‘em."

    "Montreal?" Fuller pressed.

    "Make it a parking lot," Graham said resolutely.

    "Tokyo?" Fuller asked, finally.

    "Glass the place," Graham answered.

    When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

    At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.
    Hi Ravenlocke.

    The Babylon Bee is a satirical website. It speaks volumes however, that the post on Lindsey Graham is believable.

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    When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

    At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.
    That has to be a spoof? Bad satire?

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    I am glad this thread is quite balanced and focused on the subject. Blessing to the moderators and/or evolved community.

    Few years ago there where 5 active Israeli members in the forum, and 2 Palestinians. Now only one @Libico active. Myself burnt and mostly inactive.


    Few topics to consider about our region of the world:

    1. One can understand/appreciate a religious war/hate, only if one is a strong religious believer. Others cannot understand or fathom.
    2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).
    3. In our region of the globe. Peace is done with the strong, The weak are annihilated or enslaved.
    4. Regional morals and etiquettes are invented/subjected by the strong to rule the weak (see topic 3 above).

    To understand the region interests and forces one must understand the middle east cultures and experience the regional societies.
    Western logic and analysis are very misleading.
    We are playing a virtual reality game, of duality. In the game of choices, align your choices with your ideals. Everything is whole, complete and perfect. Even yourself. Love is the power to change/create.

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    A summary news report (for what it's worth in a rapidly changing situation!), posted two hours ago.

    https://t.me/ZandVchannel/82985

    The text:
    Palestinian-Israeli conflict: the latest news of the hour:

    Northern direction:
    Palestinian shelled Sderot, Yad Mordechai, Nativ Hasara, Ashkelon and several other settlements bordering the Gaza Strip. No major clashes were reported.

    East and south:
    Palestinian sources reported renewed clashes near Kibbutz Be'eri, but Israeli and other Arab sources did not confirm the information.

    West Bank:
    Clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces continued in the West Bank. Several such incidents took place outside the formal Palestinian Quarter, with local sources reporting clashes near the Ram On and Janir settlements.

    The border with Lebanon:
    About half an hour ago, a Patriot SAM was accidentally fired on Israel's northern border at Safed. According to preliminary reports, the shell fell and exploded in the village of Khiyam Marjayoun in southern Lebanon. There were no other major incidents in the border area.

    Gaza Strip:
    Israeli forces continued to fire into the Gaza Strip. Civilian casualties have been high due to the density of residential areas: more than 1,400 people have been killed and a further 6,000 injured.

    Political background:
    There were online reports that the Jordanian authorities were blocking the road into the West Bank to prevent the local population from taking part in clashes with the Israelis.
    In Israel, an extended meeting was held between Benjamin Netanyahu, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and a member of the 'emergency government', Benny Gantz. Blinken said the states supported the Israeli position and would defend allies if other countries entered the conflict.
    Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian arrived in Iraq.
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    When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 one of the early stories was, they took babies out of incubators and threw them again the wall. Something like would galvanize support for them to be removed. Upon their exit they set fire to over 700 oil wells. The first casualty of war is the truth.
    Strangely enough, the Palestinians were allegedly kicked out of Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein...
    Many years ago I read that during the Falklands war the Argentinian Military had been told that the English Military ate babies, so this is obviously a basic propaganda lie they just throw out there. Having said that, I do believe the comment about the nature of the brutal murders being more in line with ISIS fighters.
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    Quote Posted by Sirus (here)
    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712500567015063991



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    🇮🇱🇵🇸Israel has stopped supplying electricity and water to Al-Nagab prison, where Palestinian prisoners are being held - the non-governmental organization Committee for Palestinian Prisoners.

    According to the committee, there are about 5,100 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 36 women and 170 children.

    On Saturday, prison authorities isolated all Palestinian prisoners in their cells and blocked access to media and communications.

    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712498122247581821




    Text:
    🎼Gaza Strip, IDF aviation has worked again.

    By working with the civilian population, you will create those who have lost relatives and friends.

    And when those who have nothing more to lose due to attacks on civilians appear. They cultivate hatred, which will ultimately only give rise to revenge.

    WAGNER GROUP®
    https://x.com/dana916/status/1712499935969521784



    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1712509069070614845



    https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-...y-in-the-world

    Lindsey Graham Calls On The United States To Bomb Every Country In The World

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — As tensions escalate in the Middle East following the deadly terrorist attacks by Hamas on Israel, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham sought to resolve the conflict and restore peace to the region by calling for the United States to begin bombing every country in the world.

    "It's the only solution," Graham said to reporters while advocating for even more hostilities. "If we want to restore peace throughout the world, the only realistic answer is to lay waste to every single nation around the globe."

    "What about nations that have no involvement in the conflict?" asked reporter Michael Fuller.

    "They're all involved," Graham answered. "Bomb ‘em all. Gone. All of ‘em. Bombs, bombs, bombs. Burn it all down, baby!"

    "What about Paris?" Fuller asked.

    "Have you seen the demographics of their population?" Graham responded. "Bomb ‘em."

    "Montreal?" Fuller pressed.

    "Make it a parking lot," Graham said resolutely.

    "Tokyo?" Fuller asked, finally.

    "Glass the place," Graham answered.

    When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

    At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.
    Hi Ravenlocke.

    The Babylon Bee is a satirical website. It speaks volumes however, that the post on Lindsey Graham is believable.

    Yes about the Babylon Bee being a satirical website. Sorry I wanted the post to be separate from the other news Tweets in same post but it got lumped together and being in a hurry I didn’t catch that.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)

    https://babylonbee.com/news/lindsey-...y-in-the-world


    When asked what he expected to be the result of so much widespread bombing, Graham was indifferent. "They'll all know who's boss," he said. "Nothing will stabilize the entire world and ensure the safety of the American people like making every single country in the world hate the United States. On top of all that, some of us will also make massive amounts of money, so I'm very much in favor of this idea."

    At publishing time, Graham had reportedly already made a series of phone calls to the Pentagon to inquire about how many "gigantic nukes" the U.S. currently has on hand.
    That has to be a spoof? Bad satire?
    Yes it is.

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    • The THREE BIGGEST LIES They’re Spreading Right Now!:

    It’s called: “atrocity propaganda” — false stories of horrific incidents committed by an official enemy that are intended to build support for committing atrocities against the dehumanized other. And that’s exactly what’s been happening with the recent Hamas attacks in Israel as media have spread unsubstantiated reports of widespread rape, beheaded babies and hundreds massacred at a music festival.

    Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss all the lies we’re hearing about Hamas atrocities.
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    • YES – They Actually Created & Funded Their Enemy!:

    Considering the level of hostility between Israel and Hamas, it may come as a surprise to many to learn that the Israeli government was instrumental in creating and funding Hamas — a plan devised as a means of driving a wedge between Palestinians in a strategy of “divide and conquer.” Not only that but Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu even told his Likud Party followers in 2019 that his plan was to continue funding Hamas.

    Jimmy, The Convo Couch’s Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger discuss the level of hypocrisy coming from Netanyahu and other Israelis who claim to treat Hamas as their mortal enemy rather than a partner in promoting extremism on both sides.
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    Horrific. Absolutely horrific. This insanity must be stopped and come to an immediate end.

    Israel’s 9/11? Hmmm. Think about that and its implications. There’s at least two sides to every story when it comes to matters of state, especially war. The official story and alternative points of view that reasonably question the official story.

    I have my doubts about many aspects of this official story, just as I do about the official story of 9/11.

    Qui bono.

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    Quote Posted by PathWalker (here)
    1. One can understand/appreciate a religious war/hate, only if one is a strong religious believer. Others cannot understand or fathom.
    2. Religion is a hopium for the desperate (that is why Kabbala - the Jewish mysticism was developed/invented).


    What we are witnessing has nothing to do with religion. Can anyone remember the last Jewish Crusade? This is British hegemony garbed in ethnic cloaks and ongoing exploitation.

    Israel has nothing to do with religion. Their legal definition of Judaism spans from atheism to Messianic, which is basically Christianity. It is a blanket term for various traditions, the more authentic of which require defiance of Zionism.

    Almost everything in these traditions was compiled in the Babylonian Captivity, such as Genesis or the Messiah, which can then be understood as copies/derivatives. The fact of Cyrus the Great being the Messiah may tell us more than the accompaniment of Kabalistic documents from the same period that the Torah was developed.


    Having said that, if no one else will uphold the message of Jews Against Zionism, I will. It has nothing to do with war or hopium; in fact, the tone I get is usually the opposite, a form of commiseration, since it is a lament about why we are not particularly divine and keep suffering for our sins and weaknesses. It is about the pain of separation from divinity mixed with personal responsibility. And this ought to be similar in meaning to "jihad".

    Western logic and analysis is not merely misleading, it is utterly unfounded and groundless.

    Europe is truly a hotbed of "religious wars"--Catholic vs. pagan heretics, Protestant vs. Catholic, with no real motive beyond convert or die. Many Islamic Caliphates are quite similar. In all other experiences, it is hard to find anything that resembles this Extreme Dogma.

    Europeans would still burn you alive just because of what you think, well into the 1700s.

    If a Hamas kills an Israeli civilian, it is because of the Occupation, not because they are Jewish.

    As a religion or religious tradition(s), Judaism could increase its status greatly by repudiating Zionism, which is a "Christian" belief. In classical times they were greatly respected everywhere they went! Because they earned it! Especially in Gaza!

    The Israelis were dispersed by Assyria and the "Lost Tribes" went to Iran and the Caucasus and have been there ever since, without suppression or pogroms, etc., because they are fairly normal and just practice religion privately and don't try to hook up with the government for favoritism such as foreign conquest. Do they have anything to do with Judea? Not really.

    Hebrew-based Israeli religious traditions are effectively part of the Persian Empire, a Persian is solely responsible for there even being a Judea II, which in turn simply became part of Edom.


    I only have a small amount of personal experience, but, in my view, the Jews are much easier to deal with than the Christians, because you don't have to Jesus anything. I have never sensed a hair of proselytism or subconscious projections of superiority that most Christians simply cannot stop.

    This cannot be a religious war since the demands of uncontaminated Judaism as well as Islam would be the same, Zion is an illegal settler state and cannot be allowed to continue as an apartheid regime.

    "Religious identity" as a part of psycho-social manipulation is an unfortunate and unnecessary complicating factor that has little to do with the more substantial parts of what may be useful in any of the "religious ideas" that are still available.



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    Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian said upon arrival to Beirut that more anti-Israeli fronts may be opened in the future.

    "In the light of the continued aggression and military crimes [committed by Israel in the Gaza Strip], and the siege of Gaza, there is possibility of other fronts being opened," the minister said in a comment to the Al Mayadeen television channel.

    Islamic countries "should not tolerate the crimes that are being committed by Israel," he went on, accusing the country of "depriving the civilian population of water and electricity supplies" and of "continued bombing of Gaza’s residential districts."

    Abdollahian added that Iran would "continue to provide political and information support to the Palestinian resistance."

    He emphasized that Iran and Saudi Arabia have a coordination mechanism "within the framework of their common strategy to support Palestine."

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    This is a statement from fearless president. My respect for him is rapidly growing:

    Israel has lost my sympathy, says Croatia’s president

    Zoran Milanović also pledges to lower EU and NATO flags in his office because they shouldn’t be on the same level as the Croatian one.



    Milanović hit out at Israel over their retaliatory strikes in Gaza, which have so far killed more than 1,500, according to Gaza's health ministry

    Croatian President Zoran Milanović said he doesn’t sympathize with Israel because of its reprisal actions in Gaza after last weekend’s Hamas attacks, and criticized displays of the Israeli flag in his country.

    In comments to media on Thursday, Milanović hit out at Israel over its retaliatory strikes in Gaza, which have so far killed more than 1,500 people according to Gaza’s health ministry, and called the Croatian foreign ministry’s decision to display the Israeli flag outside its building in solidarity with the country “an idiotic move.”

    “With all my sympathy for Israel, which unfortunately they lost within 15 minutes … there is no place for other flags in Croatia, except in strictly regulated situations,” Milanović said. “I condemned [Hamas’] murders, I even expressed disgust and abhorrence, but the right to defense does not include the right to revenge and the killing of civilians,” he added.

    Israel’s strikes on Gaza came in response to Hamas militants conducting a wave of attacks, breaching the country’s border, killing more than 1,200 people and taking around 150 hostages back to Gaza.

    Milanović also said he would lower the EU and NATO flags in his presidential office below the Croatian one, saying they are “not the same” and so should not be hung on the same level.

    Elected president in 2020, Milanović was previously prime minister of Croatia between 2011 and 2016.

    Milanović has made controversial remarks in the past, from comparing the Ukrainian patriotic chant “Slava Ukraini” to a Nazi salute, to threatening to withdraw Croatian troops from NATO forces stationed in Eastern Europe.

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    Yes, we all pay for the madness. I was in a shop today that had a radio playing in the background and heard that Trudeau is sending an initial $10 million to Israel. Just the start, eh? That's already a lot of money for Canada. As soon as I heard it, an expletive entered my mind.

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    From Wide Awake Media on Twitter/X. This isn't the best summary from what he's saying - it's probably better to read the subtitles in full.

    As with others who've made video statements from their time in the IDF it's more for the record, at this point.

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    Ex IDF commander: "It was done in full co-operation. It's impossible that the IDF did not know about this."

    "This country betrayed us back during the Covid-19 pandemic, with these dangerous vaccinations. Now you see it more clearly. The army no longer serves us. I know it sounds hard. I know it's scary, but in my opinion, it's true."
    Source: https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/...13421390438508

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