Gobekli Tepe

[Andre]

This explanation seems plausible if Farsight followed the RV protocols. I find it odd that people debunk RV when quantum physics admits time is an illusion and humanity's evolution would naturally include higher sensor perception such as telepathy and RV.

[greybeard]

Archaeology Evidence 11500BC Supports a Very Odd View of History | Gobekli Tepe YUGAS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AZA7I5mMmTs

[greybeard]

ARCHAEOLOGY NEWS - Astonishing Revelations at 'Oldest Temple on Earth' // Gobekli Tepe

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gMuc0d_f9ug

[Tintin]

Gobekli Tepe has been a site of much interest to archaeologists for really some time now. My own interest in this area of study - archaeoacoustics - is always piqued perhaps as it resonates with my musician me, and seems to answer questions that may be otherwise much harder to answer ("In the beginning there was the Word" is perhaps a clue.)

Here's the overview of this particular study undertaken in 2017:

We made an archaeoacoustic exploration at Enclosure D in the Göbekli Tepe archeological site. This site is the most ancient archaeological location recognized by archaeologists all over the world. It was dated 7,000 years before the Egyptian pyramids. Thanks to the site's discoverer we had the possibility to record the vibrations coming from the subsoil, magnetic fields and the sound produced by hitting with hand on central pillar n.18. The results are amazing and confirm that Göbekli Tepe has the same archaeoacoustic aspects of many other typical sacred sites we have studied in Europe and Minor Asia.

However the most interesting finding was understanding that the pillar we examined is probably at the centre of a sophisticated mechanism of vibrations and magnetic fields affecting the brain. This discovery is in contrast with our knowledge of the level of technology produced by the civilization who built these sacred temples. Our results have to be considered as preliminary results, however due to the death of the person who discovered the site and the current geopolitical situation in Turkey we cannot continue the research. We hope other researchers will be able to confirm our results in future.

Source

Archaeoacoustic Analysis in Enclosure D at Göbekli Tepe in South Anatolia, Turkey

September, 25. - 29. 2017, www.hassacc.com
Paolo Debertolis

[Szymon]

Hi Friends,

This article reminds me of the work by Graham Hancock on the Gobekli Tepe an interesting read.

https://www.ancientoriginsunleashed....al-dating-code

Cheers,
Szymon

[ian33]

excellent subject
i came to similar conclusion(the stars have been employed since paleo, at least) using my own dating method.individual stars directly aligned for construction period and use, of ancient sites, mounds, egyptian and greek temples, ,pyramids worldwide, leading up to gothic cathedrals(templar knowledge from holy lands) and currently employed by masons, certainly the method of vertex star i discovered
my research is all in f.b. group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/164731090849175

[sunwings]

Very interesting article. I have made chatGPT do a summary for anyone who might be interested.

Göbekli Tepe, an ancient sanctuary in Turkey, is believed to be the world's first megalithic temple, dating back almost 13,000 years. Pillar 43, known as the "Vulture Stone," at Göbekli Tepe reveals an astronomical code that offers insights into the minds of ancient people and potentially explains the basis of many world religions. The code indicates a forgotten knowledge of how the position of stars changes over millennia, called the "precession of the equinoxes." This code, referred to as "zodiacal dating," seems to have been used across Europe and the Near East for tens of thousands of years, providing an alternative method for dating ancient artifacts. The ancient zodiacal symbols found in Palaeolithic cave art and Neolithic shrines align with the constellations used in the West today. The article suggests that the discovery of this ancient astronomical code has significant implications for our understanding of astronomy, prehistoric culture, and ancient artworks.


Please see this link to Bill's post about using chatGPT on the forum. We realise members are trying to be helpful using chatGPT, but on the Project Avalon forum it is kindly asked to NOT use it. Thank you

[shaberon]

Interesting. I think it is at least partly true, the linked article suggests a connection between Indus Pasupati and Gundestorp Cernunnos, which is late to the party, I came up with this on my own and posted it years ago. But in this case at least we can agree it is probably on to something.

With Lascaux drawings and the like, it is more in the realm of speculation.

The Zodiac per se is considerably more modern--before ca. 600 B. C. E. it is probably more appropriate to say "constellations". There is almost no such thing as Aries. You have to squint and make up a story for it to even be noticeable. Libra used to be the "claws of Scorpio". So I would argue the Zodiac only happens by design, although some constellations like Capricorn probably were accepted before the "Circle of Animals".

"Pre-historic" meaning "before writing" means Lascaux drawings without captions, and artifacts without writing, obviously evidence that there were some ideas, but we cannot put words in their mouth since we just don't know what they said.

It may be as simple as the linked article described, but, you will notice that everything in it has blown away to dust, except for one thing, Pasupati. And he really has nothing to do with astrology. We have no continuity from Ishtar, Osiris, Lascaux, Catal Huyuk, or any of that, but Pasupati has millions of devotees.


This is what I found which will wash out any ideas that Mesopotamia or Egypt came up with anything. Those are credited with some of the earliest writings back to 3,000 B. C. E. because they are carved in stone and bricks. But if you look at their artifacts and mythologies, it would have been physically impossible for them to have independently authored anything. This is because they require Lapis Lazuli. That linked post has information which shows that it had one source, which, in old times, was effectively India. And because it has one source, that means it was effectively traded to Catal Huyuk or Anatolia as early as 7,000 B. C. E., just due to physical figurines.

Think about that for a moment. It would have been physically impossible for Egypt or Mesopotamia to even begin having mythologies without this.

From the very beginning of writing, as well as the oldest artifacts, all depend on this Indian substance.

I am not saying that insect-repelling bedding material was not found in South Africa at an age of something like 100,000 years--again traded over distance--but there is nothing known to man in terms of the development of writing, art, religion, and the like, that does not depend on lapis.

Astrologically, is this highly equivalent to Taurus, yes.

But in actuality it means there is no evidence that shows anything other than a very ancient and rather large traders' network emanating from Indus Valley which remained intact for most of the Roman Empire. In other words, there was such a thing for about 8,000 years, until the West screwed up the connection and forgot about it. Pasupati didn't blink.

The whole time system is Indian. Chinese astrology is its own thing. Indian is basically the same as Western. In comparison the Indian Zodiac is somewhat blunted. They actually do not think much about the star signs, just about the Sun during that month. So the original Western astrology--prior to the Tropical system--must have been almost identical to India's, but then, the developing mythologies pertained much more to the signs than the Sun. For instance I am not sure the Indian Sagittarius is really a Centaur. Most of them are pretty close, but, it seems to me that the most telling one for the West is Gemini. In fact, in India, it is not even Twins, but a Couple. And then if you start looking at the Western Gemini, then in one sense you get the Pillars of the Temple of Solomon, but, the twins, the Dioscuri, are pretty suggestive of the Indian Aswins. Once you start comparing, the real Indian deities such as Aswins have nothing to do with Zodiac Signs, but with the Mansions or days of the Moon, which is barely known in the West.


So I think you had a mutually-intelligible, but not dictated or carbon-copy, system, which would have been the equivalent of world wide at its time.

But then by making the Tropical system, what happened? One notices all the months shoved to the end; Sept-, Oct-, Nov-, Dec-, instead of being 7-10, are now 9-12. By artificially "fixing" the equinoxes, it means that the Caesars, Julius and Augustus, July and August, are permanently fixed to the high summer.

Then everything started breaking and being forgotten. India simply did not make written carvings like other places--in fact the oldest Indian writing was carved around Aleppo which had a Hindu king around 1380 B. C. E.

In written manuscripts, India was conversant with the Roman coin "Denarius" in the 500s, but when copied by scribes around the 800s, they didn't know what it was and replaced it with something else.

Without quibbling over the details of what may be in the stars, what steps out boldly is the death of an 8,000 year unity. Nothing affected India, but here, we now use a rather arbitrary and artificial system, and are isolated or are seen as uncivilized by basically the rest of the world. Try to deny it but that is how it is. And so I think there is something of value which can be pinned to the Age of Taurus and the lapis trading network, and in fact both this unity and today's conflict can be found to be different interpretations of the Book of Ezekiel.

I believe that can be supported by all evidence known to man; older drawings might or might not be connected, but they are able to tell us far less than, for example, the Epic of Gilgamesh in two versions--Taurus and Aries.

[Vicus]

New statues found in Göbeklitepe and Karahantepe: The first painted neolithic statue was discovered

Arkeolojik Haber
Sat, 30 Sep 2023

New discoveries that will leave their mark on art history were made during the Stone Hills (Taş Tepeler) archaeological excavations. The first painted neolithic statue was unearthed from Göbeklitepe. The 2.3 meter high human statue in Karahantepe evokes a seated person with ribs, spine and shoulder bones emphasized. Remains of red, white and black pigments attract attention on the surface of the life-size wild boar statue made of limestone in Structure D of Göbeklitepe

New finds were discovered in Göbeklitepe and Karahantepe. At around 12,000 years old, Göbekli Tepe is the world's oldest megalithic site - and it has a "sister site" called Karahantepe.

A recent discovery in the world's oldest religious sanctuary, Göbeklitepe, "Potbelly Hill" in Turkish, which is described as the "zero point of history" has revealed a painted wild boar statue.

The UNESCO World Heritage site of Göbeklitepe has changed the way historians and archaeologists think about the cradle of civilization. And there is so much more to be discovered.

A painted wild boar statue was discovered during ongoing excavations in Göbeklitepe. The artifact, which contained red, white, and black pigment residues on its surface, was the first painted sculpture found from its period to the present day.

As part of the Taş Tepeler project, which sheds light on prehistory and has seen highly significant discoveries on a global scale, the archaeological excavations carried out in 2023 in 9 different areas have recently led to the discovery of human and animal statues.

The Türkiye Ministry of Culture and Tourism has released a written statement providing the following information:

In the D structure of Göbeklitepe, a life-sized wild boar sculpture made of limestone was discovered. The wild boar sculpture found in Göbeklitepe was situated on a pedestal adorned with decorations believed to include an H-shaped symbol, a crescent, two snakes, and three human faces or masks.


continue with pictures:

https://www.sott.net/article/484803-...was-discovered

[Inversion]

In this video by AJ from The Why Files he covers Gobekli Tepe and the encoded stones like pillar 43 aka The Vulture Stone. He talks about comet Encke and at one time it was 100 miles wide. At some point in the past, it broke apart and every year we pass through its debris the Taurids meteor shower which happens to peak in three days. He compares it to playing Russian roulette because there are mile wide objects in it.

11/02/23 (58:14)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=r4xzFWW-FAA

Göbekli Tepe and the Vulture Stone Prophecy

We are the descendants of an ancient civilization; one which mastered technology, mapped the cosmos, and understood our relationship with the natural world.

Our ancestors traveled the world and built enormous structures. They scaled their creations into cities.

They shared a common governance and similar religious beliefs.
Our ancestors lived, as we do today, as a global society.

Around 14,500 years ago, this global superpower started to collapse.

First came uncontrollable change, and then a cataclysm. In less than a week, everything and almost everyone was gone.

Those left behind built monuments. Monuments not as tributes to Gods or homage to kings. The monuments are a warning to future generations: to us. That warning is simple: danger is coming.

Our civilization has ended before. And it will end again.

This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.

[shaberon]

Posted by Inversion (here)
This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.

This begs a couple of questions.

The archaic Younger Dryas Impact hypothesis is very unlikely to have been a cataclysm.

The more recent Black Sea Deluge hypothesis was also more likely gradual than it was sudden.


Would that change what is at Gobekeli Tepe?

[Inversion]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Posted by Inversion (here)
This is one story Big Archaeology and world governments don’t want you to know. Once you hear it, you’ll never trust them again.

Because the danger that’s coming? There’s nothing they can do to stop it.

This begs a couple of questions.

The archaic Younger Dryas Impact hypothesis is very unlikely to have been a cataclysm.

The more recent Black Sea Deluge hypothesis was also more likely gradual than it was sudden.


Would that change what is at Gobekeli Tepe?

The Gobekeli Tepe site is in the southern part of Turkey near the border of Syria. The Black Sea is along the northern border. It's estimated to be around 12,000 years old. The Younger Dryas happened between 12,900 and 11,600 years ago.

[Lysis]

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperi...paperid=123387

Hopefully the link works. It is a research paper on gobekli tepe and the Hebrew god table. The claims that gobekli tepe is the pillars of Enoch.

Jesus is quoted saying "enoch is scripture" yet enoch is banned and during the crusades everything Enoch was targeted for destruction and burning. But if this was the pillars of enoch at 12,000 years old then what is hebrew/Judaism? Those are 3000 to 4000 years old yet their foundation is found at gobekli tepe.

So what is the real narrative? Did Abraham really burn his father terah alive in his home at the dictation of nimrod a few thousand years ago or is this just a retelling of another story that is far older? When the validity of a religion is in question due to evidence, religion seems to push for major conflict.

When religious texts were found in antarctica in the 1960s by an Australian expedition team the church was caught multiple times vandalizing the building the texts were kept at. Along with threats to media to deny the discovery and bury it.

A book was finally released in the 2000s called "genesis antarctica". It's about an ancient civilization of giants that existed before humans that had zero religious belief such as gods. Their culture was structured around reincarnation. It was only these beings that reincarnated and in the end that was their downfall as they became lazy.

Other races waged war out of jealousy over the fact that the giants reincarnated and the other races did not so the races that waged war believed that by wiping out the giants the reincarnation cycle would end and that the races would no longer need to worship the giants in order to have structures built like the pyramids.

I think the world is slowly waking to the idea that god and spirituality is not a scam but religion is. That our history as humans is far more interesting and eventful than we have been lead to believe. I don't think it's coincidence that the research paper came out 2023 and in 2023 Israel has made a huge push for global war. How much involvement did Israel have with epstein? That is a real sign of evil to unleash an evil like that in order to gain political advantage.

[shaberon]

Posted by Lysis (here)
But if this was the pillars of enoch at 12,000 years old then what is hebrew/Judaism? Those are 3000 to 4000 years old yet their foundation is found at gobekli tepe.

3,000 years old = ~1,000 B. C. E., which is a reasonable estimate for proto-Hebrew.

Judaism is multiple derivations of cult making formed within this.



This is fairly easy to frame.

The ancient Canaanite background is easily found at Ugarit, an ancient port city in northern Syria, in the outskirts of modern Latakia, discovered by accident in 1928 with the Ugaritic texts:

The polity was at its height from c. 1450 BC until its destruction in c. 1185 BC.

Scribes in Ugarit appear to have originated the "Ugaritic alphabet" around 1400 BC: 30 letters, corresponding to sounds, were inscribed on clay tablets. Although they are cuneiform in appearance, the letters bear no relation to Mesopotamian cuneiform signs; instead, they appear to be somehow related to the Egyptian-derived Phoenician alphabet. While the letters show little or no formal similarity to the Phoenician, the standard letter order (seen in the Phoenician alphabet as ʔ, B, G, D, H, W, Z, Ḥ, Ṭ, Y, K, L, M, N, S, ʕ, P, Ṣ, Q, R, Š, T) shows strong similarities between the two, suggesting that the Phoenician and Ugaritic systems were not wholly independent inventions.


The Baal of Ugarit was likely the same as the Baal of the Hebrew Bible.

The first serious indication that there is a "Judaism" is that Elijah discovers Yhwh and attacks Baal of Ekron and Ugarit. It then goes to an Israeli coup against the House of Omri, and the new Judaic follower king is found on the Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III, Created 827–824 BC:




“I received the tribute of Iaua (Jehu) son of (the people of the land of) Omri: silver, gold, a golden bowl, a golden vase with pointed bottom, golden tumblers, golden buckets, tin, a staff for a king [and] spears."






Jehu, bows before Shalmaneser III. This is "the only portrayal we have in ancient Near Eastern art of an Israelite or Judaean monarch"



So, they were specifically rejecting the whole Canaanite mythos.

That obelisk lists about thirty conquests and it is all about wealth and power--in fact we cannot find other examples of a conflict taking place because "my god is true" and "your god is false" like Elijah was doing. They might destroy some statues and force you to give tribute, but that was not because the old god was "false", it was "defeated".


It may be possible the Canaanite myths are related to those of Anatolia.

The difficulty is that if the Younger Dryas Impact and the Black Sea Deluge were wimpy, slow events, rather than cataclysms and massacres, if Gobekeli Tepe were read that way, it would be talking about something that never happened. I don't expect it to do that.

I would also have to question why the discovery of megaliths would mean there was an interconnected globe with one culture, language, etc., it sounds like there was no such thing that did not get destroyed by events that did not happen.


I may try to glean something from the Enoch link, there may be something viable in that area.

Concerning the Torah, it is entirely likely there was no such thing as Abraham, Moses, etc., until most of this material was invented during the Babylonian Captivity.

The Ugarit texts would reflect whatever had developed regionally since about 6,000 B. C. E.; the amount of readable scripts in numerous languages that pre-date Hebrew is overwhelming. It is probably the "youngest" mythology of them all.

[onawah]

You Won’t Believe This Disturbing Gobekli Tepe Update
Bright Insight
1.61M subscribers
6/10/24

"This 2024 UPDATE of Gobekli Tepe is genuinely shocking and disturbing."

(Briefly, the WEF is halting uncovering the ruins still remaining at Gobekli Tepe and are causing a lot of destruction by erecting roads and structures at the sight.
Clearly, there is something there they don't want the public to know about, and I would say it very likely has to do with the 12,000 year solar cycles, a BIG secret they are desperate to cover up, obfuscate and distract from.
Corsetti is going to follow up this video with more and he is starting a public protest against this outrage.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cPNgGnUrCKM

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by onawah (here)
You Won’t Believe This Disturbing Gobekli Tepe Update
Bright Insight
1.61M subscribers
6/10/24

"This 2024 UPDATE of Gobekli Tepe is genuinely shocking and disturbing."

(Briefly, the WEF is halting uncovering the ruins still remaining at Gobekli Tepe and are causing a lot of destruction by erecting roads and structures at the sight.

More on this, posted by Helvetic on his thread:

Posted by Helvetic (here)
One of the biggest coverups that nobody is paying attention to!

Göbeklitepe has remained at 5% excavation for years and was placed under the management of The Dogus Group (DG) a massive conglomerate in Turkey which secured a 20 year partnership with the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM in 2016, allowing DG to oversee all actions taken at Göbeklitepe...

They are now saying that Göbeklitepe, the oldest and most mysterious archaeological site in all of human history, is to be left for "Future Generations", there will be no focus on further excavation of the remaining 95% that is still buried in our lifetimes if The Dogus Group and The World Economic Forum have their way.

[TrumanCash]

It appears the globalists want to hide ancient history by taking over Gobekli Tepe.

https://banned.video/watch?id=66746fc7596fbdce292a7a2e

[onawah]

Megalithomania/ Hugh Newman #29
Matt Beall Limitless
31.5K subscribers
Premiered Nov 21, 2024

"Hugh Newman from ‪@MegalithomaniaUK‬ joins ‪@mattbealllimitless‬ to discuss Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, additional sites in Taş Tepeler, and much more."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X4qbaLUdjHM

[onawah]

New Revelations on Karahan Tepe: 11,000-year-old Sacred Geometry
Howard Crowhurst
4.46K subscribers
Dec 18, 2024

(This presentation demonstrates the remarkable mathematical precision used to determine the positioning of the various significant sites in Turkey, including Karahan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe in relation to each other and to the Sun, etc. as well as similarities to structures that are much more recent, by thousands of years.
So many mysteries yet to be discovered in these sites! )

"Karahan Tepe, located in southeastern Turkey, is one of the most significant archaeological discoveries of the 21st century. Often referred to as the sister site of Göbekli Tepe, it predates its construction, dating back to between 9,000 and 11,000 BCE.

In this video, Howard Crowhurst shares his insights to unravel the mysteries of this incredible monument. Was Karahan Tepe positioned in relation to other sites in the area? What do its statues reveal? What is the significance of the pillar shrine? Could there be a connection to Tiwanaku's symbolism?

Howard also builds upon Hugh Newman's remarkable discovery: the sun illuminating the side of a mysterious head emerging from the bedrock at sunrise on the winter solstice. He shows the astounding geometry revealed by this phenomenon and its connection to the ancient site's design."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KDhS6E_LpJ8

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Göbekli Tepe: The World's First Sacred Geometry?
Howard Crowhurst
4.46K subscribers
Premiered Aug 7, 2024

"Over the last few years, a certain number of ancient sites have been discovered around Gobekli Tepe. They are known as the Tas Tepeler sites. In this video (the first of two), Howard Crowhurst proves incredibly precise geometrical relationships between two of these sites, Harbetsuvan Tepesi and Tasli Tepe, and Gobekli Tepe, over very long distances. He shows how this geometry is inscribed inside Gobekli Tepe. Once again, these are outstanding revelations which must change the way we consider the Earth's history."

00:00 - Start
03:00 - Date of Göbekli Tepe
05:22 - Sculpture
07:52 - Geometrical planning at Göbekli Tepe
11:12 - Orientation
12:26 - Modular geometry in the site
16:02 - The triple square
19:56 - The quintuple square
26:51 - Tas Tepeler sites
28:31 - Harbetsuvan Tepesi
30:38 - Tasli Tepe
35:17 - Modular geometry on a massive scale
40:41 - Exact angles on Google Earth
47:52 - Equilateral triangle in Carnac

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R0kJdbkT5TA

[ExomatrixTV]

• GOBEKLI TEPE: Olive Trees Removed! Shocking Footage! (2025 Update):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IvtsUFAJCR8

My recent trip to Turkey uncovered some startling findings about how ancient sites, specifically Gobekli Tepe, are being handled there. After all the recent controversy surrounding the trees and their removal thanks to the public outcry from the attention gained from Jimmy at ‪@BrightInsight‬ coverage, it was the perfect time to go see for ourselves along with ‪@NikkianaJones‬ Make sure to follow them both to see their take on this as well!