Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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Bloomberg: A defense agreement is being prepared between Russia and the leader of eastern Libya. This causes a new alarm in the United States

The agency writes that Russia is taking steps to expand its military presence in eastern Libya. Moscow plans to create a naval base, which will actually become a "springboard on the southern threshold of Europe."

According to the media, citing its own sources, after a meeting in Moscow between Vladimir Putin and the commander of the armed forces in eastern Libya, Khalifa Haftar, a defense agreement is being developed.

Former US Special Envoy to Libya Jonathan Weiner said that the US administration takes this threat very seriously.

"Preventing Russia from entering the Mediterranean Sea was a key strategic goal — if Russia has ports there, it will give it the opportunity to spy on the entire European Union," he concluded.

Moscow also wants to create a base in Sudan for permanent access to the Suez Canal, the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Peninsula.

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Netanyahu denies report on reservist protest leading to Oct 7.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu denied a link between protest by reservists that led Hamas to launch Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7.

The arguments on Sunday were the most recent indication of strain within "Israel's" war cabinet, specifically between Netanyahu and his political adversary Benny Gantz, who joined an opposition emergency administration to assist in overseeing the war.

It started when news outlets like Channel 12 reported that Netanyahu might need to look into whether the months-long demonstrations against his government—which included reservists announcing they would not report for duty—were a contributing factor in Hamas' decision to launch their operation.

"In wartime, leaders must show responsibility, Netanyahu must retract his statements," Gantz posted on X. Furthermore, Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid said that Netanyahu crossed a red line, and said that he must apologize for his statement.

Afterward, a statement was released by Netanyahu's office explaining that "Contrary to what was published, the prime minister did not in any way say that the (reservists') refusal was what led Hamas to attack 'Israel.'"

The Israeli Prime Minister had tried to absolve himself of the responsibility for the massive intelligence failure on October 7, as he said he received no warning regarding Hamas operations from either of the two intelligence apparatuses.

A week prior, Netanyahu poked fun at his intelligence chiefs, claiming they never informed him that Hamas was organizing a large-scale strike. However, after Gantz and other officials requested a correction, Netanyahu eventually apologized.

Netanyahu led 'Israel' to worst catastrophe in history: Israeli media

Former Israeli Mossad chief Danny Yatom said Israeli occupation Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has caused a lot of harm to "Israel," affirming that he continues to do so during the war on Gaza.

According to Israeli media reports, Yatom stated that "Netanyahu still prioritizes his own interests and then those of Israel," indicating that his "considerations are impure," and calling for his replacement.

Yatom explained in his statement that one of the problems is that Netanyahu "believes he is the only one in the world who can manage Israel," and if he leaves, it will collapse, adding that "with him, Israel will collapse or has already collapsed."

Israeli media quoted the families of the Israeli settlers who died in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood as saying that "Benjamin Netanyahu led Israel to the biggest catastrophe in its history."

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Jordan airdrops medical aid to Gaza
King Abdullah II has said that his country’s air force has airdropped medical aid to a field hospital run by Jordan in Gaza.

King Abdullah said it was Jordan’s “duty” to help and that “we will always be there for our Palestinian brethren”.

It’s unclear if there was any coordination between Israel and Jordan over the airdrop, and there has been no comment from the Israeli government.

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Thanks for all the updates ravenlocke and everyone else. The news here in the states is nothing but a 30 second spot in the evening and that's it. Soldiers,mercenaries, terrorist, country after country lining up like a chess game and 2 groups of people trapped like sardines only to hope the grim reaper does call on them tonight knowing this may be the last day on the earth for them.

On Hal turners site tgnt at 4 pm there is a story saying the IDF is simply just asking for prayers right now , looking at these stories and pics there many on all sides asking for the same . Where will it end, there can be so much more to life that all this hate and agendas. Its simply sad and tragic beyond comprehension at times.....................................

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"As a condition to enter Gaza under IDF air support, outlets have to submit all materials and footage to the #Israeli military for review prior to publication. CNN has agreed to these terms...."

CNN reveals that all content by journalists accompanying the IOF in #Gaza should be approved by the military before publication, which contrasts with the freedom of the press.

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Hamas calls on Egypt to provide Gaza with roaming services, Internet connection

On November 5, Palestinian provider Paltel reported that telephone and Internet services had again been disrupted throughout the Gaza Strip
CAIRO, November 6. /TASS/. The radical Palestinian movement Hamas has asked Egypt to provide roaming services to the Gaza Strip, where telephone communication and the Internet have been cut off, the movement's spokesman Fawzi Barhoum said.

"The terrorist Zionist occupation has cut [telephone] services and the Internet in the Gaza Strip <...>. We call on Egypt to open roaming services on Egyptian networks," the spokesman said in a statement published on the group’s official Telegram channel.

On November 5, Palestinian provider Paltel reported that telephone and Internet services had again been disrupted throughout the Gaza Strip. A similar announcement was made by Jawwal, the second provider of telecommunications services in Gaza.

The complete shutdown of Internet, wireline and cellular services in the Palestinian enclave was first reported on October 27. Paltel and Jawwal said that services had become impossible due to damage to communications caused by Israeli airstrikes. Communications were restored on October 31, as international organizations expressed concern about the inability to reach those remaining in Gaza.

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Around 15:00 hrs, a group of Israeli extremist settlers arrived on scene where the Armenian community was having a peaceful sit-in.

Danny Rothman, backed with 15 settlers, demanded the expulsion of the Armenians:
“This is our land, leave the parking lot now!”

The Armenians refused to back down, and stood firmly on their rightfully owned property. Israeli Police arrived on the scene to diffuse the situation, which prompted more settlers to arrive in a show of force.

George Warwar, a Christian Arab, head of Xana Capital and Mr. Rothman’s business partner, also made threats to Armenians: “I will get you, one by one!”

Furthermore, one of the settlers gleefuly announced: “You are all Goys and when the messiah comes, you will all die”.

The Israeli settlers and the united Armenian community were at a stand-off.

Karnig Kerkonian, heading the legal team called for an emergency meeting with the members of the legal team in Jerusalem and the community activists on the ground to discuss undertaking further legal measures in light of the incursion into Armenian Patriachate grounds in the Old City.

As of now, the settlers have left the premises.

Further updates will follow.

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Posted by Bright Skies (here)
Are the scriptures simply used as a playbook?

Yes.

It is almost that simple, but we need to factor in "which" scriptures and "which" interpretation.

Guess how many Millenialist movements before the English language, and how many since.

How many Messianic movements, how many Messiahs.

Were any of them really talking about thousands of years in the future?

I don't believe in coincidences nor do I believe in surprise attacks. I believe the atrocities* by Hamas were allowed to happen so certain criminals within the Israeli government could have the excuse to erase Gaza.

This was not really a false flag so much as it had one or more accomplices in powerful positions within IDF. It could be for the reason suggested, or, it might be retaliation against the Netanyahu government or Likud or even Israel generally.

It was not a coincidence or surprise to the Israeli betrayer(s), but to everyone else it probably was.



It sounds a little roughshod to me and as sheer speculation, I would guess that Hamas is gambling on starting a huge international reaction against Israel. Not so much the marches but for instance if Bahrain says it cuts all economic ties. What does that mean. Surely it must be a boycott of some value.

And does Hamas really care for the innocent Palestinians? Wasn't the organisation created with divide-and-conquer in mind to be used as a counter-balance in order to split the Palestinians so they will be stuck in a constant state of infighting?

Generally so but one must accept that things change. An organization can easily make a 180-degree turn any time, especially after its main founders are gone. It is supposed to be a running argument between the PLO mostly in the West Bank, and Hamas of Gaza. Over time it was essentially shown that the PLO does nothing. Hamas amended a lot of its core practices and participates in electoral politics and overall does represent common Palestinians.

Someone born in Gaza in 2000 is going to grow up to trick and harm the Gazans? Who else are they recruiting from? It wouldn't make any sense.

And then there are the Christian Zionists who believe this will lead to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Which is it? Don't they know they will not fare well under the Noahide laws where they will be viewed as idolaters?

There are two kinds. The ones that think Jesus is coming think they are immune to prior covenants or laws. According to that belief, there is this great war and then any Jesus follower is fine. Usually this has a kind of sympathy which says Jews ought to be involved because they always have a final chance to convert.

The other kind or the true British Israelist hates the Jews and would just as soon grind them up in this war.

Those are both Zionists.

I am not sure there is any other kind.

They both rely on English Bibles.

I find Abrahamic scriptures to be fabrications. I doubt that David and Solomon ever heard of Moses.

It is like seeking "freedom from religion" because I do not want this stuff projected at me across the political realm. It literally is a form of oppression. I do not like the fact that "my system" goes around the world "defending our national security" rather than working on itself where it lives. It needs to be chased out of the state house and if those people want to say those prayers at a barbecue or whatever happens to be offensive to Muslims that week, they can go believe in it all they want.

Having it in command of the status quo is a grave error.

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Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
According to the media, citing its own sources, after a meeting in Moscow between Vladimir Putin and the commander of the armed forces in eastern Libya, Khalifa Haftar, a defense agreement is being developed.

Former US Special Envoy to Libya Jonathan Weiner said that the US administration takes this threat very seriously.

"Preventing Russia from entering the Mediterranean Sea was a key strategic goal — if Russia has ports there, it will give it the opportunity to spy on the entire European Union," he concluded.

Moscow also wants to create a base in Sudan for permanent access to the Suez Canal, the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Peninsula.

Is this surprising?

Easily possible?

"To spy"? Why would they care much?

Africa mostly threw out the U. S., and is mostly in the Russian sphere.


As fallout Hamas happens to have:

American M136 and M141 grenade launchers, as well as Swedish-British NLAW ATGMs, are seen on the footage. There are less and less doubts that the foreign weapons fell into the arms of Palestinian militants through Ukraine.

Various reports claimed that during the security operation on October 8, the Israeli military found portable anti-aircraft missile systems “Strela-2” and shots to RPG-7 with the mark of a unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Mukachevo, Transcarpathian region. Ukrainian weapons were discovered in one of the pickups of Hamas militants.

Moreover, taking into account the close ties between the Ukrainian intelligence, military and civilian services with the CIA, it is highly likely that expost of NATO weapons around the world, including to the Israeli borders, is carried out under strict American supervision. It is worth recalling that weapons from the Balkans and Ukraine entered Syria and Yemen through the ports of Varna and Odessa. It was also massively taken from long-term storage warehouses with Soviet ammunition. For example, mortar mines then assembled in Ukraine were found in service with ISIS in Yemen in large amount.

The supplies along the routs from Eastern Europe and Ukraine were set up and actively operated during the wars in Syria and Yemen to arm for example Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and others. The CIA was largely involved in these operations, including financing them from its own secret funds. The destinations also included Pakistan, Afghanistan, Burkina Faso and other countries.

Western governments were aware of illegal transfer of weapons before, they know now. Due to the growth of this illegal business in Ukraine after the coup d’etat of 2014, the struggle for operation of the ports in the Odessa region, one of the main hubs of arms trade in the Black Sea region, is strategically important for Western beneficiaries.

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Posted by Tintin (here)

Posted by Bright Skies (here)
Indeed it is very dangerous to stand up against the Zionists. Just ask Brendon O'Connell. Originally from Perth, Western Australia he had to flee to Iran for political asylum after being made an example of by the freemasonic elite and sayanim within Western Australia and having had his friend and sister die under mysterious circumstances. His main focus of research is Israel stealing high technology from the US and selling it on to their enemies.

A good overview of his story is here:

MY INTERVIEW WITH LEBANESE TV - ISRAEL & CYBER PANDEMIC FEB 2020
https://rumble.com/v3lmfea-my-interv...-feb-2020.html

His UN refugee application is one hell of a read:

UN Refugee Application | Brendon Lee O'Connell - 100MB PDF file
https://odysee.com/FInal_UNHCR-Appli...11_2019_High:5

That's a very thoughtful post - thanks for sharing it

Just as a footnote, the Odysee link is helpful but can't be downloaded, however his full 1018 page submission is downloadable from here:

https://ia903205.us.archive.org/34/i..._2019_High.pdf

Thank you Tintin. When composing my post I was actually pondering to use the Internet Archive link instead of Odysee but choose Odysee due to familiarity since I watch videos on there. The file actually can be download on Odysee but strangely downloads as an MP4 file (one must change the file type identifier to PDF to open it) and often fails mid-download.

The Internet Archive link you have posted is much better.

Posted by Rizotto (here)
I've been having many similar thoughts over the past week. It is with disbelief to see Jordan Peterson's siding with Isreal, same for RFK Jr., and even Tulsi Gabbard. I'm really shocked to see so many Christian Zionists in my locality, those I thought were my colleagues in the fight for freedom, but now are cheering on Isreal's crimes against Palestinians, and looking forward to the 'end times'.

Indeed. But I am glad that many commentators are realising this and calling the fake truthers out. Since when did truthers cheer for war, revenge and bloodshed? David Icke's latest video (which I have not yet watched) is about this very issue:

Here And No Further - The 'Alternative' Media Hijack - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast
https://banned.video/watch?id=65451063a1e9dc64ae079e2f

In regards to the Christian Zionists, a freedom friend of mine who happens to be a Christian (but not a Zionist), published this article a few days ago:

Evangelical Christians Turn Their Backs on Christians in Palestine Who are Being Murdered and Attacked by Jews as They Give Unconditional Support to Israel
https://biblescienceforum.com/2023/1...ort-to-israel/

Posted by Rizotto (here)
One question. You say that there are innocents on both sides. But over the past week I have been wondering if there is such a thing as an innocent Isreali. Didn't they all go to Isreal specifically to displace the Palestinians from their lands. How can you live in a kibbutz and claim that you stand for peace, when that land you live on was violently stolen, and the owners imprisoned or killed.

I've heard that many Isrealis, the good ones, have left Isreal over the decades because they do not want to participate in that genocide anymore, and only the psychopaths live there now, that's why the same Likud psychopaths keep getting voted in. Is this too harsh of me to say? I'm blinded with anger at the scenes of the Gaza slaughter. There is a whole new generation who was simply born in Isreal, who did not chose to move there, and have been indoctrinated from a young age. However, in this internet age, how can anyone not know about the Isreali terrorism against Palestinians since 1948... I also keep thinking of the 1967 USS Liberty massacre by Israelis, and the 9/11 dancing Isrealis in New York who turned out to be Mossad agents...

I would like to emphasize that I have nothing against Jews themselves. I know several of them and have Jewish friends. Turns out they don't live in Isreal.

Funny you should ask this as this was on my mind when composing the post.

Of course the Jewish supremacists (and any type of supremacists no matter their religion or belief system) cannot be reasoned with. Many of the settler-types actually believe God gave the land to them exclusively.

The last interviewee in this Corey Gil-Shuster video (which kept popping up in my YouTube recommendations – so much so that I ended up watching it!) is a perfect example:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OOFRNGlEB6k

I also recommend watching Louis Theroux's 2011 documentary 'The Ultra Zionists' to listen to the extreme views of such settlers:

Louis Theroux – Ultra Zionists
https://vimeo.com/102569427

The friends of mine who are based in Israel who I had a lot of communication with many years ago are secular Jews. They simply happened to be born in Israel. If they were born in the West I would expect them to be secular too.

There were also many internationals at the psy-trance (psychedelic trance) electronic dance music event and many of those who listen to that style of music and are involved in the community (and I have been involved in the psy-trance community and have created some tracks as a hobby) are very spiritual and one could say many are 'new age love and light' types.

The community was targeted by Israeli authorities, at least it was early on when the first dance parties were organised, and many parties were shut down and the partygoers beaten. The Israeli authorities used to call the partygoers "Arsim" which is a derogatory term for someone who is noisy and messy. A good summary of the Israeli authorities views on such partygoers can be read in the first music review on this page: https://www.discogs.com/release/2852...-Arsim-On-Acid

Dare I say these non-religious secular Jews are the types that the Jewish supremacists would view as disposable. And it is strange how the event was moved close to the Gazan border at the last minute.

A thread on a psy-trance forum was also one of the first forum threads I read about the Hamas attacks:

HAMAS attacks party in southern Israel
https://www.psynews.org/forums/topic...uthern-israel/

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Truth bomb after truth bomb (and those are the only type of bombs I want dropped)! 💣

Do you know who the speaker is?

Posted by Humwawa (here)

I don't believe in coincidences nor do I believe in surprise attacks. I believe the atrocities* by Hamas were allowed to happen so certain criminals within the Israeli government could have the excuse to erase Gaza. 💥 By way of deception, thou shalt do war.

That has been a widely reported theory; however, I would hesitate asserting it in the absence of positive prove.

Scott Ritter, military analyst and UN weapons inspector who opposed Joe Biden over Saddam Hussein's WMDs, argues that the Hamas attack is due:

1) to an overreliance on signal intelligence and artificial intelligence at the expense of human intelligence. In other words, the huge mass of electronically gathered information was not correctly evaluated by human analysts and politicians.

2) the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) and Mossad are not as good as they used to be 50 years ago during the 6 day war or the Yom Kippur war.

3) Hamas learned to game the Mossad intelligence gathering machine.

4) Jake Sullivan, the US National Security Advisor, said two weeks before the Hamas attack that the Middle East is more peaceful today than it has been in decades. The US National Security Advisor receives all relevant intelligence information from the CIA, Mossad, etc. He wouldn't have said such a thing if there had been credible intelligence information of an imminent Hamas attack.

Moreover, Netanyahu is a shrewd and calculating person. He would not trigger a war by a false flag operation that Israel risks losing. There are really no good options for Israel now and the country is perhaps in greater danger than it has been since its creation. Hamas does not have to defeat the SDF by military means. If Hamas survives, it has won. Hamas has already achieved a political victory because the 2-State solution is back on the table. The Abrahams accord for normalizing Israel's relations with the Arab countries is dead. If it had been successful, it would have been the end for the Palestinian people. As the pics from Gaza spread around the world, more and more countries will turn against Israel. Even Biden, a self-confessed Zionist, may no longer be able to prevent a ceasefire for Gaza.

Thank you Humwawa. And welcome to the forum!

That's a very good overview. Yes, Scott Ritter and other military experts such as Douglas Macgregor believe it was a cock-up and not a conspiracy and that no stand down took place.

It just boggles the mind that Hamas were able to penetrate Israel at multiple points and run riot for hours before any response.

I remain suspicious.

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And thank you Ravenlocke! You trawling the newsfeeds and posting relevant up-to-the-minute news is one of the reasons why this is very best forum thread that exists on the internet on this subject.

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Posted by Bright Skies (here)
The community was targeted by Israeli authorities, at least it was early on when the first dance parties were organised, and many parties were shut down and the partygoers beaten. The Israeli authorities used to call the partygoers "Arsim" which is a derogatory term for someone who is noisy and messy. A good summary of the Israeli authorities views on such partygoers can be read in the first music review on this page: https://www.discogs.com/release/2852...-Arsim-On-Acid

Dare I say these non-religious secular Jews are the types that the Jewish supremacists would view as disposable. And it is strange how the event was moved close to the Gazan border at the last minute.

Re bolded above at the end...hmmmm - It's 'little' details like that... that are important when considering the 'big' picture... (IMO)

That's a very good overview. Yes, Scott Ritter and other military experts such as Douglas Macgregor believe it was a cock-up and not a conspiracy and that no stand down took place.

It just boggles the mind that Hamas were able to penetrate Israel at multiple points and run riot for hours before any response.

I remain suspicious.

Suspicion is totally understandable...

It does boggle the mind and it isn't really possible (from what has been said about Israeli Security) that the whole Hamas attack could have been planned and executed without discovery - many genuine, fair and highly intelligent commentators like Ritter and MacGregor can't (yet) take the step, that there was (logically) a Stand Down - the next and final step being that it may not have just been a Stand Down but a joint planning venture between some Israeli Sec. Forces and some sections of Hamas ....

And I have come to the conclusion that unless the machinations of the Neo Fascist (Super rich) Global Elite are factored in to everything that's happening - the situation cannot be properly understood or remedied...

A high number of Israeli deaths were needed to justify the counter attack and eventual destruction of Gaza...

Speculation.... the removal of the Gaza Strip is part of the Globalist's long term strategy... that's what we're seeing now - (?) because Jerusalem/Israel is earmarked to be the Headquarters of the One World Government - (if the Globalists get their way)

And it goes without saying that it's horrible, soul destroying and heartbreaking for all the children and citizens caught up in it... from both sides of the border -

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Various supporting links in these articles.

BREAKING: Iron Dome Fails – may have been Hacked. Tel-Aviv getting Pounded
https://citizenwatchreport.com/break...tting-pounded/

B1Bs Practicing Bombing Runs. Ohio-Class Nuke Sub Offshore. Ike Carrier Strike Group Closing In
https://citizenwatchreport.com/b1bs-...up-closing-in/