Trump is NOT the answer

[DNA]

Dennis I give you an A for effort.
Great job with your deep state analysis.
But like Jaybee who was quoting Dr. John Coleman I think we need to ask who is controlling the military and intelligence community deep state.
You need to go to Rumble and listen to some John Coleman.
He has a video from 94 where he calls everything that is going to happen in the next 30 years.
The comittee of 300 are the royal houses that started banking in Venice.
These families know that the single greatest threat to the earth is human over population.
Profits mean nothing to them only the survival of their lineage.

What does this mean?
It means this is where Mkultra really came from.
The Vatican always keeping prominent members of such in high positions.

The play right now is to conquer Europe and the USA from within by using Muslim refugees to further escalate the kinds of things we saw black lives matter doing.

If I know this I'm sure Trump knows it.
His dealings with Isreal may have been a misguided attempt to thwart this.
I can't really say.

But yes depopulation and one world government and religion with Islam being the chosen religion are what is being prepared for us.

My speculations on where this goes doesn't really matter I suppose.

These elite really do demand their followers worship Moloch practice pedophilia, ritual sacrifice and murder.

I think that is where we differ.
I know the governing machine is capable of great evil starting from the top.
And when I say evil I mean the genocide of billions of people.
The governing machine is capable of this because it has been conditioned to do so with satanism and the barbaric treatment of children being a ritual that stamps out any and all humanity.

I'm not quite sure you understand and or agree with this. Because until I understood this I didn't accept the depopulation premise based on the reasoning that people just couldn't be that evil to other people.

[T Smith]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Mari (here)

Lets not forget Neil Oliver's take earlier this evening on GBNews. Excellent summary, imo.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=loS-2xSqPus

Brilliant, powerful, truth, masterfully articulated. I offer Neil Oliver a standing ovation!

I thought it best to respond to your post here (initially posted on the Israel vs. Hamas thread):

Notice how Neil Oliver's bravura rant (which you laud with a standing ovation), riddled as it is with truth bombs in every sentence, calls out every president and dirty politician.... except Trump.

Just sayin'

Trump may have warts--and I take no issue whatsoever when you point them out.

But Trump doesn't belong in the same group of gansters with Bush, Clinton, Obama, Pelosi, etc.

What you're standing in ovation illustrates this perfectly.

[Dennis Leahy]

I've taken the time to note specifics of Trump's presidency to prove the point, but they are always glossed over. The points I've made are valid whether or not you, or anyone else, gloss over them.

I've said I'm not playing the comparison game. Whether all the other US presidents are devils or angels, better or worse than Trump is not the point (unless all you care about is determining who is better instead of acknowledging what Trump actually did in office.) If, on a scale of 1 to 10, the presidents that Oliver mentioned are all tied at negative 7, and Trump rates a 1 on foreign policy, that's nothing to cheer about.

Neil Oliver didn't mention Trump, but he did mention the slaughter of innocents, and mentioned Syria and Yemen, for example. When Dubya Bush was president, he awakened the few anti-war 'activists' that were left, in large part due to drone bombing - the indiscriminate slaughter of innocents. Then the slick, articulate, Black president, Obama, took office and increased the drone bombing - the indiscriminate slaughter of innocents - by a factor of eleven. Then, Trump beat Obama's 'death from the sky' record, slaughtering even more innocents. (But it doesn't matter, because they were all a bunch of filthy, disgusting, vermin - you know, Arabs, Muslims. Yemini, Afghanis, Iraqis, Somalis, Syrians, and at least one general from Iran. But Trump is a great troll, so it doesn't matter. Trump is not as bad as the other presidents that Neil Oliver mentioned by name, so it doesn't matter.)

[Johnnycomelately]

Point of order. My quoted post (#1355 in this thread) was moved here from the Trump is a great troll thread, for reasoning that I don’t understand.
I welcome any reports to the mods suggesting that it be moved back there, or else be deleted outright. It certainly does not belong here, whether or not bojancan’s referenced post (likewise moved from there, currently #1353 in this thread) does.

For the record, I am neither a fan of Trump, nor a worrier about his various egregious faults. The former seems like wanking, and the latter seems like self flagellation.

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Hi Pris. I don’t know bojancan’s politics, but after watching 6 min of the vid, I think that it’s in the right thread.

The title, “ Trump SHORT CIRCUITS During LOW ENERGY and AWFUL Speech”, is ridiculous. It would better be titled “Bunched Panties FIGHT BACK!”. I scrolled into the comments, and they all echoed that meme lol.

Master troll for sure. I find some of Dennis’s arguments persuasive, but this ain’t that. Embed of bojancan’s vid:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TIoPztLmAdM

Posted by Pris (here)
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Posted by bojancan (here)
He is really weird...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIoPztLmAdM

In case you missed this:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Mod note from Bill:

Dear Friends,

[Dennis Leahy]

I'm with you, Johhnycomelately, that the above video doesn't fit in this thread. I only watched part of it, and it is the typical drivel that the DNC hurls at Trump, like hair, orangeness, and personality - because the Democrats dare not point at Trump's policies and actions that they echo. I only made it up to the point where the vlogger started fawning over Biden, and had to turn it off and find a barf bag.

[T Smith]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
. I've said I'm not playing the comparison game.

But you are playing the comparison game. You continually say, "they're all the same", they're "all Deep State" they're all puppets. Arguing a common lack of distinctiveness is a comparison. I'm not glossing anything over, I'm just calling you out on that. And in my opinion, that's not a valid comparison.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
Then, Trump beat Obama's 'death from the sky' record, slaughtering even more innocents. (But it doesn't matter, because they were all a bunch of filthy, disgusting, vermin - you know, Arabs, Muslims. Yemini, Afghanis, Iraqis, Somalis, Syrians, and at least one general from Iran.

If you're referring to Syria, we've already addressed this; Trump's policy on Syria was to disengage, but his Administration's policy, in direct mutiny, found ways to circumvent that directive. I'm not suggesting that's not a failure (or glossing it over), but you frame it as if Trump himself is sitting behind his desk and personally playing a video game, with glee, dropping carpet bombs on innocents. C'mon. You're just projecting rage now. That's entirely inaccurate.

We do know Trump signed off on the assassination of the Iranian commander of the Quds Force (a designated terrorist organization by both the United States and European Parliament) but targeting a high-ranking designated enemy of the United States is not the same as targeting an innocent. You might argue Trump really took out an enemy of the Deep State there (and probably wouldn't be wrong), and therefore he's a proxy of the Deep State. But I'm not sure we can take that leap. Maybe that attack averted a large-scale terrorist attack that would have claimed the lives of hundreds or thousands of innocents (as claimed by media); maybe it didn't. I don't know--neither of us do.

If you are referring to some other instance of Trump gleefully gaming with drone strikes or carpet bombs, however, please cite with specifics.

The bottom line is, Donald Trump is a blatant departure away from Deep State politics. This is the main reason he garners so much support. He even threatened to defund or withdrawal from NATO (the nerve!). I'm really having a difficult time understanding how you don't see this and am starting to think (whether you're aware or not) his wildcard antics away from Deep State policies may be the very thing you most take issue with.

It's true our species has created a perpetual and senseless killing machine in the name of some cause or another ever since Eisenhower warned us about the out-of-control military industrial complex. It is true this is an unjust domino that has slaughtered and ruined millions of innocent lives, a virtual juggernaut with a seeming life of its own, which no one person, or POTUS, will ever be able to dismantle (or even slow) by himself. All of us who are aware of this hate war and disapprove of this, but recognize reality: we're all in this war against this enemy, in a fight for our lives, whether we like it or not. We sometimes just lose sight of what we're fighting and who the enemy is.

So here's the thing I and others have been trying convey:

We are all a bunch of filthy disgusting vermin in the soul-less eyes of the powers ultimately commandeering the killing you and I so despise. We are all its target, not only for slaughter, but also for genocide and extinction.... If we must project rage, let's keep a proper prospective and direct it not only where it's deserved, but also where it has the best chance at being effective.

[gini]

Oct 31, 2023 #TheJimmyDoreShow
Former US president Donald Trump opened his speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference by declaring, “I love Israel. I love Israel.” He then went on to state that if he’s elected president again he will pursue “vengeance” against Hamas in response to the group’s October 7 attacks inside Israel.

Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger, discusses how Trump is declaring himself as much of a bloodthirsty warmonger marching us into a global conflict as his fellow Republican candidates or Joe Biden.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E2FDzFjQI9w

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[T Smith]

Posted by gini (here)
Oct 31, 2023 #TheJimmyDoreShow
Former US president Donald Trump opened his speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference by declaring, “I love Israel. I love Israel.” He then went on to state that if he’s elected president again he will pursue “vengeance” against Hamas in response to the group’s October 7 attacks inside Israel.

Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger, discusses how Trump is declaring himself as much of a bloodthirsty warmonger marching us into a global conflict as his fellow Republican candidates or Joe Biden.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E2FDzFjQI9w

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To be perfectly clear, I disapprove and disagree 100% with DJT's rhetoric. Dore is quick to convict based on this speech, but we should also take it with a grain of salt, being he's specifically addressing the Jewish lobby.

The best policy is negotiating for peace and de-escalation. But that's definitely not something the Jewish lobby wants to hear right now.

Hopefully, this is just a reflection of the ugly side of politics. Time will tell.

[grapevine]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
For the record, I am neither a fan of Trump, nor a worrier about his various egregious faults. The former seems like wanking, and the latter seems like self flagellation.

So very funny and so true

Posted by T Smith (here)
So here's the thing I and others have been trying convey:

We are all a bunch of filthy disgusting vermin in the soul-less eyes of the powers ultimately commandeering the killing you and I so despise. We are all its target, not only for slaughter, but also for genocide and extinction....

This is also true, but not at all funny.

Being English, the POTUS is an important ally to us, although far enough removed that we're not affected on a daily basis. As Presidents go, Donald Trump is not the best but is certainly not the worst, unlike the present incumbent.

What I like about Donald Trump is, as T Smith says, he's not Deep State (although his stance on Israel is concerning), and if he DOES get voted back in then we in the UK have the smallest chance to oust our Deep State political parties and vote in an independent, and hopefully rid ourselves of the Woke "Blob" in our respective countries. I don't think there's any chance of this at all otherwise. Until Nigel Farage's stance on Israel (which is the same as Trump's), I had hoped that his party would get in and (at least) slow the WEF, WHO, et al, down.

People should always vote for the best but as is so often the case these days, they vote to keep others out (if they turn out at all), and this is a big factor.

[onawah]

If Trump's justification for those statements is that he is a Christian, then he needs reminding: "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord".

When wrestling with pigs, it's inevitable that you are going to get dirty, it's just a matter of how dirty.
Vengeance as a motivation will get you very dirty indeed.

Posted by gini (here)
Oct 31, 2023 #TheJimmyDoreShow
Former US president Donald Trump opened his speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition’s conference by declaring, “I love Israel. I love Israel.” He then went on to state that if he’s elected president again he will pursue “vengeance” against Hamas in response to the group’s October 7 attacks inside Israel.

Jimmy, along with The Convo Couch host Craig Jardula and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger, discusses how Trump is declaring himself as much of a bloodthirsty warmonger marching us into a global conflict as his fellow Republican candidates or Joe Biden. .

[mountain_jim]

Another Not The Answer.

https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/...808185053?s=20

[T Smith]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Another Not The Answer.

https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/...808185053?s=20

Good God, is it the jab? How hard is it to negotiate a flight of stairs?

[onawah]

Is that really Newsome? He doesn't look as tall.
If it was, why did he not delegate someone else to deal with his luggage? Strange.
(I doubt very much that he or Biden or anyone else in the Deep State got the real jabs, though they may have made a point to have someone jab them with a fake on camera to make it look like they did.)
But maybe so...there's also this:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ll-court-china

Nope, according to this video, it's not Newsome debarking, it's Tommy Tuberville.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0TAAdUhGAPQ

One of the comments says:
"That would be Senator Tommy Tuberville from my State of Alabama 🤔 He lived in Florida but was elected to the Senate in Alabama 🤔 He was one of the worst coaches to ever coach my beloved Auburn Tigers and he's hands down the most horrible Senator elected by the Trumpublicans in my State. I'm a born and raised pasty White Liberal Democrat Alabamian Grandma y'all."

It appears to be a tradition started some time ago...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Jsu_qgVuhg

[mountain_jim]

Sorry for the misinformation (and thread distraction)- the community note was not present then and my knowledge of his appearance not that great

[bojancan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8K9gEqQqpR0

I prefer Meidas Touch explanation of Trump's behaviour .. what is happening in court today than Habba!

[bojancan]

Doesn't Trump hate all of those, who are NOT WITH HIM????? Wit his ugly narration everywhere!!! And those with HIM here in Avalon, they are so blind fully, nearly mind controlled against opposed ones... Sad!

[bojancan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2BVOd5VT3eI

[bojancan]

I remember, decades ago.. /I am young in two years, 80/how we red in Europe, what's happening with Ivana&Donald... all those years back then, Donald's mentor was Roy Cohn... a big CON man... and Donald was friend for decades with Mossad Epstein too... from that men, Donald was learned/educated, how con artist can become big Con and master of deception. It's not only few years, to follow his mastery of fraud existence... it lasted many decades till now... Donald is a big con man, actor, liar, pretender, hijacker of truth and free movements... but not good Bussines MAN... Why? Answer is there... the veil is coming down... supprisangly we shall see the naked Donald!

I am not a democrat or Biden's supporter, nor American... just observing, how many angry, non spiritual and revenge-wanting people are talking about THE TRUTH!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=F0IeAPoeGEI

[bojancan]

I do not have the trust in that kind of human as Trump! More believable is Ellis!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=da4pp1oeHMk

[bojancan]

And here is one more.. more facts as Trumps lies.. on and on!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QGqj0_IITHE