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    But the point is, why would someone like Netanyahu choose to see a psychiatrist in the first place. He would not. Everything about him is complete self-confidence about achieving his goals. He doesn't look like he has one bit of a troubled conscience. Ever. Has anyone ever seen him hesitate? Psychopaths simply don't have troubled conscience. They have no conscience.

    And nowadays, psychiatrist aren't doing the talking therapy, they are mostly drug-pushers, ask psychiatric survivors. By the way, statistics show that psychiatrists have a high suicide rate. Could be caused by their limitation to a reductionist view of the mind.

    Psychologists are the ones doing talk therapy these days.

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    Chris Hedges: Israel’s Final Solution for the Palestinians
    November 5, 2023
    When Jewish extremists, fanatic Zionists, religious zealots, ultranationalists and crypto-fascists in the apartheid state of Israel say they want to wipe Gaza off the face of the earth, believe them.

    https://scheerpost.com/2023/11/05/is...-palestinians/

    I covered the birth of Jewish fascism in Israel. I reported on the extremist Meir Kahane, who was barred from running for office and whose Kach Party was outlawed in 1994 and declared a terrorist organization by Israel and the United States. I attended political rallies held by Benjamin Netanyahu, who received lavish funding from rightwing Americans, when he ran against Yitzhak Rabin, who was negotiating a peace settlement with the Palestinians. Netanyahu’s supporters chanted “Death to Rabin.” They burned an effigy of Rabin dressed in a Nazi uniform. Netanyahu marched in front of a mock funeral for Rabin.

    Prime Minister Rabin was assassinated on Nov. 4, 1995 by a Jewish fanatic. Rabin’s widow, Lehea, blamed Netanyahu and his supporters for her husband’s murder.

    Netanyahu, who first became prime minister in 1996, has spent his political career nurturing Jewish extremists, including Avigdor Lieberman, Gideon Sa’ar, Naftali Bennett, and Ayelet Shaked. His father, Benzion — who worked as an assistant to the Zionist pioneer Vladimir Jabotinsky, who Benito Mussolini referred to as “a good fascist” — was a leader in the Herut Party that called on the Jewish state to seize all the land of historic Palestine. Many of those who formed the Herut Party carried out terrorist attacks during the 1948 war that established the state of Israel. Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Sidney Hook and other Jewish intellectuals, described the Herut Party in a statement published in The New York Times as a “political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to Nazi and Fascist parties.”

    There has always been a strain of Jewish fascism within the Zionist project. Now it has taken control of the Israeli state.

    “The left is no longer capable of overcoming the toxic ultra-nationalism that has evolved here,” Zeev Sternhell, a Holocaust survivor and Israel’s foremost authority on fascism, warned in 2018, “the kind whose European strain almost wiped out a majority of the Jewish people.” Sternhell added, “[W]e see not just a growing Israeli fascism but racism akin to Nazism in its early stages.”

    The decision to obliterate Gaza has long been the dream of Israel’s crypto-fascists, heirs of Kahane’s movement. These Jewish extremists, which make up the ruling coaltion government, are orchestrating the genocide in Gaza, where hundreds of Palestinians are dying daily. They champion the iconography and language of their homegrown fascism. Jewish identity and Jewish nationalism are the Zionist versions of blood and soil. Jewish supremacy is sanctified by God, as is the slaughter of the Palestinians, who Netanyahu compared to the Biblical Ammonites, massacred by the Israelites. Enemies — usually Muslims — slated for extinction are subhuman who embody evil. Violence and the threat of violence are the only forms of communication those outside the magical circle of Jewish nationalism understand. Millions of Muslims and Christians, including those with Israeli citizenship, are to be purged.

    A leaked 10-page document from the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence dated Oct. 13, 2023 recommends the forcible and permanent transfer of the Gaza Strip’s 2.3 million Palestinian residents to Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula.

    It is a grave mistake not to take the blood curdling calls for the wholesale eradication and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians seriously. This rhetoric is not hyperbolic. It is a literal prescription. Netanyahu in a tweet, later removed, described the battle with Hamas as a “struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle.”

    These Jewish fanatics have begun their version of the final solution to the Palestinian problem. They dropped 12,000 tons of explosives on Gaza in the first two weeks of assault to obliterate at least 45 percent of Gaza’s housing units, according to the U.N.’s humanitarian office. They have no intention of being detoured, even by Washington.

    “It became evident to U.S. officials that Israeli leaders believed mass civilian casualties were an acceptable price in the military campaign,” The New York Times reported.

    “In private conversations with American counterparts, Israeli officials referred to how the United States and other allied powers resorted to devastating bombings in Germany and Japan during World War II — including the dropping of the two atomic warheads in Hiroshima and Nagasaki — to try to defeat those countries,” the paper continued.

    The goal is a “pure” Israel, cleansed of Palestinian contaminants. Gaza is to become a wasteland. The Palestinians in Gaza will be killed or forced into refugee camps over the border in Egypt. Messianic redemption will take place once the Palestinians are expelled. Jewish extremists call for the Al-Aqsa mosque – the third holiest shrine for Muslims, built on the ruins of the Jewish Second Temple, which was destroyed in 70 CE by the Roman army – to be demolished. The mosque is to be replaced by a “Third” Jewish temple, a move that would set the Muslim world alight. The West Bank, which the zealots call “Judea and Samaria,” will be formally annexed by Israel. Israel, governed by the religious laws imposed by the ultra-orthodox Shas and United Torah Judaism parties, will be a Jewish version of Iran.

    It is a short step to total Israeli control over Palestinian land. Israel’s illegal Jewish settlements, restricted military zones, closed highways and army compounds have seized over 60 percent of the West Bank, turning Palestinian towns and villages into ringed ghettos. There are over 65 laws which discriminate directly or indirectly against Palestinian citizens of Israel and those living in the occupied territories. The campaign of indiscriminate killing of Palestinians in the West Bank, many by rogue Jewish militias, along with house and school demolitions and the seizure of remaining Palestinian land will explode. Over 133 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank by the Israeli army and Jewish settlers since the Oct. 7 incursion by Hamas and thousands of Palestinians have been rounded up by the Israeli military, beaten, humiliated and imprisoned.

    Israel, at the same time, is turning on “Jewish traitors” who refuse to embrace the demented vision of the ruling Jewish fascists and who denounce the horrific violence of the state. The familiar enemies of fascism — journalists, human rights advocates, intellectuals, artists, feminists, liberals, the left, homosexuals and pacifists — are already being targeted. The judiciary, according to plans put forward by Netanyahu, will be neutered. Public debate will wither. Civil society and the rule of law will cease to exist. Those branded as “disloyal” will be deported.

    Fascists do not respect the sanctity of life. Human beings, even from their own tribe, are expendable to build their deranged utopia. The zealots in power in Israel could have exchanged the hostages held by Hamas for the thousands of Palestinian hostages held in Israeli prisons, which is why the Israeli hostages were seized. And there is evidence that in the chaotic fighting that took place once Hamas militants entered Israel, the Israeli military decided to target not only Hamas fighters, but the Israeli captives with them.

    “Several new testimonies by Israeli witnesses to the October 7 Hamas surprise attack on southern Israel adds to growing evidence that the Israeli military killed its own citizens as they fought to neutralize Palestinian gunmen,” Max Blumenthal writes in The Grayzone.

    Tuval Escapa, a member of the security team for Kibbutz Be’eri, Blumenthal notes, set up a hotline to coordinate between kibbutz residents and the Israeli army.

    Escapa told the Israeli newspaper Haaretz that as desperation began to set in, “the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses on their occupants in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages.”

    The newspaper reported that Israeli commanders were “compelled to request an aerial strike” against its own facility inside the Erez Crossing to Gaza “in order to repulse the terrorists” who had seized control. That base housed Israeli Civil Administration officers and soldiers.

    Israel, in 1986, instituted a military policy called the Hannibal Directive, apparently named for the Carthaginian general who poisoned himself rather than be captured by the Romans, following the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah. The directive is designed to prevent Israeli troops from falling into enemy hands through the maximum use of force, even at the cost of killing the captured soldiers and civilians.

    The directive was executed during the 2014 Israeli assault on Gaza known as Operation Protective Edge. Hamas fighters on Aug. 1, 2014 captured an Israeli officer, Lt. Hadar Goldin. In response, Israel dropped more than 2,000 bombs, missiles and shells on the area where he was being held. Goldin was killed along with over 100 Palestinian civilians. The directive was supposedly rescinded in 2016.

    Gaza is the start. The West Bank is next.

    Israelis who cheer on the Palestinian nightmare will soon endure a nightmare of their own.
    Cracking article - Hedges at his best here

    Here's the published New York Times December 1948 Albert Einstein et al letter referenced in the article:

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    (Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko was a Soviet politician and diplomat during the Cold War. He served as Minister of Foreign Affairs (1957–1985))

    I'm not certain exactly when this was published but the recorded memory is from around September 1963:


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    ...

    ... on the occulted side of the coin:

    Patrick O'Carroll - Our "Leaders" are Mind-Controlled Puppets

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    November 9, 2023
    CLINTON'S "MAKEUP DUMMY PERSONALITY" AND WHAT IT REVEALS
    "And if you look at the history of Benjamin Netanyahu, you see a dark-occultist [Satanist], you do NOT see a Jew."

    Netanyahu is a non-Semitic Pole, who is the son of Ben zion Mileikowsky, who was an assistant to Vladimir Jabotinsky, the founder of the Jewish terrorist group IRGUN.
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    The above visual shows BILL CLINTON having been switched temporarily into a motionless "Makeup Dummy Personality" by way of "Illuminati" "mind control"; this having taken place backstage during the 1992 campaign for the US presidential "selection":

    His "Illuminati" handlers would have used a code-word, a catch-phrase, or a hand-signal, to get Clinton to switch into this motionless "Makeup Dummy Personality" so that he would sit still and shut up while his visage was being polished. But then, after this makeup session, the same handlers would have used a different catch-phrase or hand-signal, to switch Clinton back into his normal "Puppetician Mode" so that he would then continue reading Cabal-prepared speeches from his teleprompter, or autocue, and thus help him succeed in duping most of the US, and world, public into thinking that these teleprompter passages were all "his own ideas".

    That is the SAD REALITY of world politics today ... and of all of world politics since at least 1945.

    The first major revelation of "Illuminati" "mind control" was by John Frankenheimer's 1962 movie "The Manchurian Candidate", left, in which a victim of "Illuminati" "mind control" is willing to do anything (even jump in the lake) when instructed to do so while simultaneously being shown the Queen of Hearts playing-card. The leading role was played by Laurence Harvey, whose name the "Illuminati" may well have reused to base their fictional cartoon figure Lee Harvey Oswald upon. The name Oswald is also based on "Oz", taken from Thelemic Black Magic. The Talmudic "Illuminati" also use the name "Oz" to refer to their godhead Osiris. Other such dupes included the figure Osama bin-Laden, also Tim Osman, and the semi-fictional persona Ozzy Osbourne of pop-group Black Sabbath.

    "Illuminati" "Mind Control" (as just demonstrated above)
    In his books, Fritz Springmeier provided most of the details on how the "Illuminati" bloodlines raise their own children in satanic ritual abuse (SRA), which includes torture, child-rape and "mind control", to create multiple alternative personalities (called "alters") in each of their children by the age of roughly 7, at which point the child is free to remain in Satanism or else opt out (because even "Illuminati" Satanists have a "moral" code, whereby they are still obliged to grant some freedom of choice to their victims). The sheer uniqueness and accuracy of his vast content propelled Fritz Springmeier to becoming one of the leading authors in the world over the past century.

    Very many prominent people (CEOs, puppeticians, stars), especially those who belong to prominent "Illuminati" bloodlines, are programmed to have multiple personalities.

    GW Bush is said to have had one "alter" in which he recites sports stats for his "Illuminati" handlers. In this personality, GW Bush keeps a straight face, even as they break into laughter at the accuracy of the stats he can regurgitate.

    How SRA victim Jay Parker managed to courageously OPT OUT of "Illuminati" Satanism

    One victim who opted out of "Illuminati" Satanism at the age of 7 is Jay Parker of Arden-Delaware, who spoke about his experiences and life in very many BitChute talks, many of which are shown here:

    https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=jay%20parker&kind=video&sort=new

    But despite exercising his free will to opt out, Parker nonetheless suffered a lowly existence as an "Illuminati" slave, for several decades until his mid-40s. He then took many years to self-repair and self-rehabilitate.

    In 1963, Jay Parker's mother told him that the practices of "Illuminati" "mind control", and of satanic ritual abuse (SRA) within "Illuminati" clans, go back several thousand years, and that she belonged to a continual maternal line of witches that traces its origins back over 3000 years to the Amalekite people in the ancient land of Canaan.

    In late 1963 too, Jay Parker overheard his parents confirming "we ['Illuminati' Satanists] did that" after they had made a quick review of the general details of JFK's assassination, as stated by the official-"truth" narrative.





    In his childhood, Jay Parker knew Benjamin Netanyahu distantly because he had a similar upbringing to Jay's and also grew up in Philadelphia PA. Philadelphia is close to Arden-Delaware and, for the "Illuminati", it represents the spiritual capital of North America. Furthermore, Philadelphia was the original US capital, and its name is really the Freemasonic term "brotherly love". Also, Philadelphia just happens to be a key node in the Arcadian Ley Line.

    Jay Parker revealed that a distant acquaintance of his from his own childhood, Benjamin Netanyahu, was raised as a Satanist in an "Illuminati" family that practiced satanic ritual abuse (SRA), when he said of Netanyahu:

    "In the mid-1980s, I was visiting my mother at her apartment. Benjamin Netanyahu was featured on a noonday TV presentation. And I said to my mother 'What is HE doing in America?'. She replied: 'THEY are training him' [where Parker qualified that 'THEY' quite definitely referred to the top 'Illuminati' Council of 13]. And if you look at the history of Benjamin Netanyahu, you see a dark-occultist [Satanist], you do NOT see a Jew. And among the Talmud Jews, you will really see a lot of corruption".

    A few years later, in 1990, the ZioFascist doomsday sect CHABAD probably crowned Netanyahu as "Moshiach ben Yosef" for our whole current era, as shown at this link: https://www.bitchute.com/video/AhybiUkMJIus/. Note: In Judaism, the role "Moshiach ben Yosef" is counterpart to that of John the Baptist; because the "Moshiach ben Yosef" has the job of preparing the way for the actual Antichrist, who is called "Moshiach ben David".

    Like ZioFascist Zelenskyy, Netanyahu is now appearing on Tell-Lie-Vision dressed in military duds in an attempt to make him appear "cool". But in reality, he is one of the leaders of the Synagogue of Satan that is mentioned in Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 ("those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a Synagogue of Satan").

    In fact, the trio CHABAD, B'NAI B'RITH and the SANHEDRIN (re-founded in Oct 2004) almost perfectly match the description for the Synagogue of Satan, with the satanic Netanyahu as "Moshiach ben Yosef".

    Today, this Synagogue of Satan is again abusing Holy Scripture to "justify" genociding all Palestinians, with ZioFascist Netanyahu claiming 1 Samuel 15:3 ("Go and smite Amalek") actually refers to them. Netanyahu is a non-Semitic Pole, who is the son of Benzion Mileikowsky, who was an assistant to Vladimir Jabotinsky, the founder of the Jewish terrorist group IRGUN.

    Like Netanyahu, most of the top ZioFascists are neither Jewish nor Semitic. In fact, most of them are Satanists, as Jay Parker confirmed, and almost none of them are Semitic; they are mostly of Euro-Khazarian-Ashkenazi stock.


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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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    BREAKING🚨: Israel admits apache helicopters fired on their own civilians running from the Supernova music festival.

    “The pilots realised that there was tremendous difficulty in distinguishing within the occupied outposts and settlements who was a terrorist and who was a soldier or civilian… The rate of fire against the thousands of terrorists was tremendous at first, and only at a certain point did the pilots begin to slow down the attacks and carefully select the targets.”

    https://middleeastmonitor.com/202310...eli-narrative/
    https://archive.is/IIOLg

    https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654



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    https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1722545351440404836



    https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1722573109906358446

    ~~~

    Here's more on this. The report seems so extremely important that it needs to be bumped, even if to seek more details on what actually happened.

    This was published on 16 October, and I'll copy it in full. I've added my own red emphasis on the parts that seem to reveal far more than the western media has been reporting.

    Note that the embedded full video below is far longer (5 minutes) than the 14 second clip in the twitter post above.
    Air Force pilots guided via WhatsApp after Hamas deceptions during murderous attack

    First helicopters arrive approximately an hour after the onset of the terror attack, pilots fire at targets both along the border and within besieged communities, often guided by mobile calls from forces on the ground.


    https://progressive-video-ynet.yneth...da7d-hd720.mp4


    The Israeli Air Force started to piece together the events that triggered the start of the war with Hamas. The fog of war not only hampered the ground forces but also the aerial teams dispatched to the skies over the western Negev in the early hours of that black Saturday.

    The first pair of attack helicopters, on immediate standby for the Gaza region, arrived in the area from a base in the north, roughly an hour or so after the terror attack began. This was even though the Apache choppers' main squadron was stationed closer to the Gaza Strip, at the Ramon Airbase.

    At Ramon personnel sensed quickly that something extraordinary was unfolding. They acted promptly, but a combat helicopter only reached the conflict zone at 8:32 AM.

    As the pilots struggled to differentiate between terrorists and civilians, the decision was made to prioritize the immediate halt of the influx of Hamas terrorists and the potentially dangerous Gaza mobs breaching the border.

    Throughout the day of intense combat, 28 combat helicopters reloaded their entire arsenal, including hundreds of 30mm artillery shells and Hellfire missiles. The initial pace of the strikes against the thousands of infiltrators was staggering, with the pilots eventually slowing down their attacks and meticulously selecting targets.

    Hamas terrorists deliberately played a cunning game with the helicopter pilots and special forces operatives. briefings revealed that the terrorists were advised to advance cautiously into the settlements and military outposts, to walk and not run, in order to appear like they were Israeli.

    This deception tactic persisted for some time until the Apache pilots realized that all constraints should be disregarded. It was only around 9:00 AM that some of them independently decided to use artillery shells against the terrorists without seeking approval from higher authorities.

    The initial air operations on the first day lacked precise organization. However, the helicopter pilots found solutions in the challenging and chaotic skies. A significant portion of fire coordination and the identification of targets came to the pilots from the ground forces in phone calls or WhatsApp images.

    Given the overwhelming number of casualties and captives, the Israeli Air Force recognized that without the artillery support and multiple helicopter strikes carried out by the IDF, the casualty toll would have been much higher.

    Another critical development that aided IAF commanders in grasping the gravity of the situation occurred around 10:00 AM. The commander of the 190th Squadron, Lt. Col. A., descended from his helicopter at the Ramon Airbase to refuel and reequip. He immediately extracted the complete footage recorded by the chopper's camera and swiftly transmitted it to the IAF headquarters.

    In less than 20 seconds, he was back in the air. Utilizing the information he had compiled, he directed other aerial units to engage targets in the Gaza border area. At one point, he even fired on an overrun IDF position to assist naval commandos in a rescue operation.

    Currently, the aerial effort is concentrated in Gaza, but the Air Force is prepared for involvement in battles in the north. The IDF emphasizes that the IAF is highly trained and equipped to handle two theaters of operation simultaneously, but the preference is to focus on one primary theater.

    At the same time, the IDF has been closely monitoring Iran's significant efforts to supply advanced weaponry to Hezbollah in Lebanon. According to foreign reports, the IAF was responsible for recent airstrikes on Syrian airports in Haleb and Damascus, effectively rendering them inoperative. This also disrupted large weapons convoys en route to Lebanon.
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    ...

    ... in the above ^^^ video ^^^ Scott mentions (at ~ 0:54:15) that CNN had a "War Room" displaying all the war Theaters in Irak prior to the war on WMD was launched... here is a re-play of that movie:

    Nov 10 - Hamas Attack Was Staged by Israel

    (henrymakow.com)
    November 10, 2023


    (US photographers knew about the attack but the IDF didn't?)

    Hamas Attack Was Staged to Justify Palestinian genocide and world war

    Israeli soldiers killed most of the Jewish settlers
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    A new report about the images that came out of the Oct. 7 terror attack by Hamas on innocent Israeli civilians is raising questions about the actions of photographers apparently employed by AP, CNN, Reuters and the New York Times.

    The charge is that the photographers were "EMBEDDED" with the Hamas terrorists.

    They "accompanied the terrorist group into Israel. They knew the attack was coming and participated in it."

    https://www.wnd.com/2023/11/report-m...as-atrocities/

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    Kim Iversen interview with Scott Ritter - 8 minutes video

    The Zionist Lobby Has Purchased The United States Congress

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    In 1963, Jay Parker's mother told him that the practices of "Illuminati" "mind control", and of satanic ritual abuse (SRA) within "Illuminati" clans, go back several thousand years, and that she belonged to a continual maternal line of witches that traces its origins back over 3000 years to the Amalekite people in the ancient land of Canaan.

    Today, this Synagogue of Satan is again abusing Holy Scripture to "justify" genociding all Palestinians, with ZioFascist Netanyahu claiming 1 Samuel 15:3 ("Go and smite Amalek") actually refers to them. Netanyahu is a non-Semitic Pole, who is the son of Benzion Mileikowsky, who was an assistant to Vladimir Jabotinsky, the founder of the Jewish terrorist group IRGUN.

    This is triply-confabulated.

    Firstly Amalek is insubstantial compared to Esau:


    Esau is considered to be the progenitor not only of the Edomites but of the Kenizzites and the Amalekites as well.



    At least in the sense there was an historical Edom, and that it did eventually invade and miscegenate Judea, in other words Judeans from the ca. 200 B. C. E. are Edomites, while this would not apply to Jews in Persia, Babylon, etc., the Jews of South Palestine are really Edomites.

    From the objective side, i. e. the lack of corroborating evidence for anything resembling Exodus, and the stronger likelihood that such texts come from the Captivity, this is the background of Amalek:


    Although Egyptian and Assyrian monumental inscriptions and records of the period survive which list various tribes and peoples of the area, no reference has ever been found to Amalek or the Amalekites. Therefore, the archaeologist and historian Hugo Winckler suggested in 1895 that there were never any such people and the Biblical stories concerning them are entirely mythological and ahistorical. While considerable knowledge about nomadic Arabs has been recovered through archeological research, no specific artifacts or sites have been linked to Amalek with any certainty.



    As to it being mentioned in the Book of Samuel:

    Modern scholarly thinking posits that the entire Deuteronomistic history was composed circa 630–540 BCE by combining a number of independent texts of various ages.


    or:

    The Book of Samuel was not only not written by the prophet Samuel, it was not even written during the century in which he purportedly lived. Most biblical scholars say that the Book of Samuel (subsequently divided into 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel) forms part of a well integrated series written during the seventh-century reign of King Josiah and now known as the Deuteronomic History.

    The Talmud also names Nathan and Gad as possible authors, but there is no clear evidence to support this claim.

    Modern scholars believe that the Book of First Samuel was written by a single author, or by a group of authors working together, sometime in the 7th or 6th century BCE. This author was likely a member of the prophetic school, and he used a variety of sources, including oral tradition, written documents, and his own eyewitness accounts, to compile the book.



    So Amalek remains part of what might be called Rabbinical invention.

    What we are able to find is that Yahweh is traceable to 870 B. C. E., and, the historical documents come after that. Some of them correspond to external records. Major chunks like the Exodus and Amalek do not, and bear all the marks of being crafted to support a manufactured revision.

    The irony of someone claiming continuity from Amalek as a kind of anti-Yahweh is that it might stem from ca. 500 B. C. E. when someone was fed this information and accepted it.

    That does not mean they do not believe it and actually do this stuff.

    Just shows how Hebrew cultism was invented.

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    All of these reports (of ethnic cleansing) come from journalist Eva Barlett's channel and these are just for today (with more to come)!

    'Intensification of the Israeli attacks on Gaza hospitals last night. Many targeted simultaneously. Tens of thousands of patients and displaced Palestinians who are sheltering at risk. A war in which destroying hospitals is a key military objective'

    https://twitter.com/PeruginiNic/stat...56824947577071


    'Another video documenting the moments following the IOF strike which targeted Al-Shifa Hospital today. The outpatient building that was bombed was where emergency cases and displaced people were received.'

    https://t.me/Reality_Theories/15514
    ]

    'Ministry of Health in Gaza:

    The toll of martyrs from the "israeli" aggression rose to 11,078 martyrs, including 4,506 children, 3,027 women, and 678 elderly people, and 27,490 citizens sustained various injuries.

    The "israeli" occupation committed 12 major massacres during the past hours, claiming the lives of 260 martyrs.

    We received 2,700 reports of missing persons, including 1,500 children still under the rubble.'

    https://t.me/Reality_Theories/15518
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    https://t.me/Reality_Theories/15519
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    'All these mattresses had displaced people over them, who thought that taking refuge in a school would protect them."

    #Israel bombarded Al Buraq school in #Gaza, slaughtering over 50 civilians. https://t.me/QudsNen

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    https://t.me/Reality_Theories/15523
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    Before America/Israel are called to account, and the Spectre casting its shadow is vanquished, there is a lot of pain and suffering to endure - any meaningful shift in our history has always involved the enormous sacrifice of ordinary people, their lives callously disregarded, masses take to the wilderness and the roads, displaced and disrupted: WWII was characterized by this, entire towns and even cities were emptied, their populations horribly ignored and accepted as being expendable- humanity's dark genius for war is once again being mobilized, what an evil time this is shaping up to be: I am without words.

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    https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/0...the-west-bank/

    Illegal Settlers’ Reign of Terror in the West Bank
    November 9, 2023

    Peter Oborne reports from Hebron in the southern part of the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where illegal settlers, backed by Israel’s military, are forcing Palestinians off their land with impunity.
    It is the same story in every village in the South Hebron Hills.

    Israeli settlers are seizing livestock, wrecking water tanks, smashing solar panels, bulldozing outbuildings and destroying the olive groves upon which Palestinian farmers depend for their livelihood.

    They arrive unannounced armed with M16 machine guns which they are more than happy to use. They beat up villagers with iron bars, with sticks, with fists, with the butts of their guns.

    They assault women and the elderly.

    They enter Palestinian houses ripping out fixtures and fittings, stealing money, destroying papers, overturning furniture.

    They shoot to kill. Many wear a military uniform.

    They have imposed a reign of terror. They are supported by Israel’s army.

    Their message to Palestinians is always the same: get out or be killed.

    While the armed settlers act with impunity, Palestinians are defenceless.
    Surrounded

    Accompanied by a guide I arrived early in the afternoon at the 300-strong farming community of She’b Al-Butom. Nearby we could see the adjacent Israeli settlement of Avigay.

    Two “outposts” of Avigay also overlook the village, as well as another settlement, Mitzbeh. She’b Al-Butom is surrounded.

    The besieged village was situated at the end of a long stony track which nearly defeated our four-wheel drive.

    I was met by a traumatised child who grimaced. He was terrified of a stranger after what he has witnessed over the last few weeks.

    “They pointed a gun at my wife, beat me, stole my phone and pointed their guns at children”

    A group of farmers served tea. They told us that shortly after Oct. 7 four armed settlers entered the village, inflicting minor damage and left.

    For a few days the settlers concentrated on outlying properties, bulldozing houses and destroying farm buildings, forcing inhabitants to flee.
    Three days later the settlers, all wearing military uniforms, returned. This time they beat several villagers and ransacked their ancient mud built houses.

    Last Friday night [Nov. 3] they came again. They attacked villagers, including a 72-year-old man.

    Every time the settlers come, they tell the villagers to leave.

    Local farmer Khalid Jibril told me: “They pointed a gun at my wife, beat me, stole my phone and pointed their guns at children.” Keffiyeh-wearing Jibril added: “Just mention the soldiers to children. They stand there shaking.”

    Repeat of the Nakba

    For Palestinians this feels like a repeat of the 1948 Nakba when 750,000 people were driven from their homes, never to return. Like today, they were forced out then amidst massive violence.
    As we left the South Hebron hills the settlers were imposing deadlines.

    In Um Al-Khair, a tiny village flanked on all sides by Israeli settlers, settlers told them to run up an Israeli flag by 7pm the previous evening or face destruction.

    We were told that the previous day settlers burnt down a farmer’s house. When the victims called the police they were told: “You are liars and we are coming to arrest you.”

    In nearby Tuwani the villagers have been told to leave. “Go to the city,” say the settlers. Local patriarch Hafez Hureini was defiant: “No, never. Nothing will make me leave my home.”
    Some villages have already bowed to pressure. The 250-strong community of Khirbet Zanufah in the South Hebron Hills has fled. According to the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem, 13 herding communities have been displaced in the last month.

    The settlers are working to a plan, and there’s nothing secret about it.

    Extreme Right-Wing Parties

    Late last year Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saved his skin by forming a coalition with two extreme right-wing political parties.

    The first was Otzma Yehudit (translation: “Jewish Power”), led by Itamar Ben Gvir, an out-and-out racist who hung a portrait of Baruch Goldstein — the mass murderer who carried out the 1994 massacre of 29 Palestinians at the Ibrahim Mosque in Hebron — in his office until he embarked on a political career in 2020.

    Ben Gvir is now in charge of policing the West Bank as Netanyahu’s minister for national security, in which capacity he has arranged for assault rifles to be issued to “civilian security teams.” When he can, he personally oversees the distribution.
    Netanyahu also brought in the Religious Zionist Party, led by the far right firebrand Bezalel Smotrich. He gave Smotrich the coveted post of finance minister — but Smotrich held out for a more significant prize.

    Crucially, Article 21 of last December’s coalition agreement awarded Smotrich “full responsibility” over Area C of the West Bank.

    Area C is under full Israeli military and civilian control according to the 1993 Oslo Accords. It accounts for some 60 percent of the land area of the West Bank, including the isolated villages in the South Hebron hills.
    Approximately 350,000 Palestinians live in Area C, along with 500,000 Israeli settlers, all illegal under international law.

    The coalition agreement specifically placed Smotrich, who describes himself as a “fascist homophobe,” in charge of the so-called civil administration of the West Bank.

    Military Law

    “Civil administration” is, however, an Orwellian term. While the settlers have full rights as Israeli citizens, Palestinians are governed under Israeli military law.

    At best they are subject to arbitrary bureaucratic judgments made by the Israeli military authorities, but with Smotrich in charge they have no rights at all.
    The civil administration which Smotrich runs gives him total control of almost every aspect of Palestinian lives. Smotrich and Ben Gvir between them have the West Bank as their playground.

    Their plans have never been secret. They are set out quite explicitly in the founding principles of the coalition agreement, which states that “the Jewish people have the exclusive and indisputable right to all parts of the land of Israel.”

    In other words, annexation of the occupied West Bank in defiance of British and American claims to support a “two state solution.”

    Well before Oct. 7, Ben Gvir and Smotrich, who called for the Palestinian town of Howara, site of a settler pogrom, to be “wiped out,” were hard at work putting their ideas into practice.

    Now their vision gives permission for full-scale settler assault. The settler message to Palestinians is: leave or be killed.

    ‘Wait for the Great Nakba’

    Residents of the West Bank village of Deir Istiya have received warning letters stating “You wanted war, wait for the great Nakba” – and ordering them to flee to Jordan.
    I traveled by bus to this village, in the hills above the ancient Palestinian city of Nablus, to meet Faraz Diab, head of the municipality.
    He told me that a Telegram group called the “Nazi hunters” are menacingly circulating his details, including a photograph. “They should be locked up”, he says, but there’s little chance of that.

    The U.N. humanitarian agency OCHA stated on Nov. 6 that since Oct. 7, 147 Palestinians, including 44 children, have been killed by Israeli forces in the West Bank, with an additional eight, including one child, killed by settlers.

    It adds: “Since 7 October, at least 111 Palestinian households comprising 905 people, including 356 children, have been displaced amid settler violence and access restrictions.”

    ‘You Must Leave’

    Besides the human tragedy, this is a global disaster. Farmers, herders and nomadic Bedouin tribes have lived in the rugged hills and valleys of the West Bank since time immemorial.

    They long predate the Israeli settlers, an import of the last 50 years. If they are forced out of an ancient way of life with its own songs, history and literature will depart with them.

    Their livelihoods are based on the land and the seasons as herders move from summer pastures in the hills to winter grazing in the now closed off Jordan Valley.

    Many will not go. Last Friday, says Khalid Jibril, the settlers issued an ultimatum. “You must leave, Or we will kill you. And kill your children as well. Like what we did to the Gaza children.”

    Khalid has already been beaten up by the settlers. He told them: “Our children are not better than the Gazan children. If you must then come and do that. We are not going to leave.”

    For Israel’s settler movement, with the Israeli Defence Force on their side, this is their moment. Forcible transfer of an occupied people is a war crime, but I cannot discover more than the usual “call” on Israel by the U.K. government to “hold those responsible to account.”

    This silence is interesting. In normal times Diane Corner, the British consul general in Jerusalem, issues strongly worded though impotent condemnations of settler violence.
    As the attacks have escalated into a reign of terror across the West Bank she’s had nothing to say.

    I contacted Corner over Twitter, explaining that I was preparing a report on settler atrocities, including forcible transfer, across the West Bank. I noted that in normal times the British Consul has been quick to condemn such atrocities. I asked her why she had fallen silent.

    As Declassified UK prepared this article for publication there was no reply.

    In the absence of an explanation, I’d guess that Diana Corner, a decent and knowledgeable woman, has been ordered to keep her mouth shut by a British government which has pledged its “unequivocal” support to Benjamin Netanyahu’s Israel.

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    A brief but important update from The Moon of Alabama, just published. I've emphasized the focus of this in red.

    One of the significances of this is that the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, is scheduled to give another speech today, Saturday 11 November, at 3 pm Beirut time. That may be live very soon, and can be viewed here:
    3 pm in Lebanon is just a few minutes from now. These events may well influence what he says and/or calls for.
    Heads Up

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    Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai - 7:21 UTC · Nov 11, 2023
    This is THE most serious attack and escalation for many years & its consequences are critical, much more than what the eye can see:
    #Israeli warplanes attack a truck in Zahrani, south of Lebanon, 40 kilometres from the border, breaking all red lines in #Lebanon after #Syria.
    The escalation between #Israel and #Hezbollah has started TODAY (you may disagree if you don't see the full picture).
    It seems the occupation of north of #Gaza won't take too long and @Netanyahu doesn't mind starting a war on another front.
    The next hours/days are crucial.
    ---
    Can you imagine to live or even sit next to this sniper?
    One person killed, many children wounded after Israeli snipers target al-Quds hospital, according to Palestinian Red Crescent The Red Cross statement calling for the protection of patients, healthcare workers, medical facilities in Gaza comes as the Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PCRS) said Israeli forces opened fire on the intensive care unit at al-Quds hospital in Gaza City.
    One person was killed and 28 others were wounded in sniper fire by Israeli forces at the hospital, the organisation said.
    The majority of the injured were children, it said, two of whom are in critical condition.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, is scheduled to give another speech today, Saturday 11 November, at 3 pm Beirut time. That may be live very soon, and can be viewed here:
    He started speaking a few minutes ago, and I can already see that this is another cautious and balanced speech, basically focusing on the memory of events from the past. As in his first speech last week, he's not calling for war.

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    perhaps this has already been posted?? if so, sorry just ignore
    I came across this 24 hour live link to Gaza. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqLav6DV1iY

    I dont know who or how it was set up but it carries all sound and records all. It also has a chat and it all very bizarre, the things people say and think.
    you can scroll over the bar and go back over time, but need to hit the live button below for live. I have mixed feeling about it all.

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    Jeez, this is difficult to listen to. Dr Mads Gilbert who may have recorded this actually from inside Al-Shifa Hospital. It certainly sounds like it

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    Message to Biden - and all who are complicit - by Norwegian doctor, specialist in anesthesiology, Mads Gilbert
    @DrMadsGilbert who has been working at the Al-Shifa hospital on and off for 16 years
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    tintin/ wow thats hard. truly hard to hear and stomach. and I believe authentic. and even if it wasnt, I would agree 100% regardless

    god this biden has really ****ed things up for USA and the world. and its amazing to me how Killary on the View has recently called Trump another Hitler.

    Wow , what has happened to words, language, content ,meaning? We are truly in the storm

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    [...]

    This is triply-confabulated.

    Firstly Amalek is insubstantial compared to Esau:

    Esau is considered to be the progenitor not only of the Edomites but of the Kenizzites and the Amalekites as well.
    [...]
    More about Edom & Amalek: Erase the "Remembrance of..." ... as another way of re-writing history.

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