Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[pyrangello]

So the war machine and money keep flowing its up to the media to keep this train running, here ya go right from the medias mouth before Trump got elected.

Mika Brzezinski Our Job Is to Control Exactly What People Think

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=quU_Tbv96Wk

[grapevine]

Posted by Tintin (here)

Posted by Miller (here)
For many many years I've wondered whether there was oil or gas beneath Israel, given its geographical position in the Middle East and the amount in neighbouring countries. And in this thread somewhere, there's a post that Gaza was thinking of licensing gas to Russia (not sure where it is now . . .), so a motive for the total clearance of Gaza is becoming clearer.

Yes, as highlighted above, A motive. Of course it's way more hybridised than that. It was the same heuristic employed around Iraq: "It's all about the oil!" they screamed. Well, that was a useful by-product of occupation and regime change, for sure, and definitely a motivator, but resource acquisition is seldom ever just about well, that.

So so much about of all these events pivots around maleficent spiritual forces and sating their appetite/s for a different kind of energy resource: souls

Agreed Tintin, and it seems inevitable that in the not too distant future the whole of the (Western) world will live in separate 15 minute Gazas, all of us at the mercy of the WEF to do with as they damn well please .

[ExomatrixTV]

• Aaron Maté CONFRONTS Dem Senator On Train Over Gaza Ceasefire!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uGL14fBcNoQ

The Grayzone journalist Aaron Maté (mate.substack.com) recently confronted Democratic Senator Chris Coons on a train ride over the senator’s opposition to a ceasefire in Gaza. Coons repeatedly tried to deflect and complained about being disturbed on the “quiet car” but eventually offered a boilerplate response that included some basic misinformation about the conflict before complaining to a railway worker about the interruption.

Jimmy and Kurt Metzger talk to Maté about the interaction and eventually getting thrown off the train for being so disruptive.

[Tintin]

Posted by Miller (here)

Posted by Tintin (here)

Posted by Miller (here)
For many many years I've wondered whether there was oil or gas beneath Israel, given its geographical position in the Middle East and the amount in neighbouring countries. And in this thread somewhere, there's a post that Gaza was thinking of licensing gas to Russia (not sure where it is now . . .), so a motive for the total clearance of Gaza is becoming clearer.

Yes, as highlighted above, A motive. Of course it's way more hybridised than that. It was the same heuristic employed around Iraq: "It's all about the oil!" they screamed. Well, that was a useful by-product of occupation and regime change, for sure, and definitely a motivator, but resource acquisition is seldom ever just about well, that.

So so much about of all these events pivots around maleficent spiritual forces and sating their appetite/s for a different kind of energy resource: souls

Agreed Tintin, and it seems inevitable that in the not too distant future the whole of the (Western) world will live in separate 15 minute Gazas, all of us at the mercy of the WEF to do with as they damn well please .

("...15 minute Gazas" - wow, yes )

Or, worse:

Beyond the Reset - animated short by Oleg Kuznetsov - which I shared before on the forum

[shaberon]

Posted by pyrangello (here)
So the war machine and money keep flowing its up to the media to keep this train running, here ya go right from the medias mouth before Trump got elected.

Mika Brzezinski Our Job Is to Control Exactly What People Think

This is extremely disturbing, not because of anything she says, but because she says anything.

From her Wiki page:


She was formerly a CBS News correspondent, and was their principal "Ground Zero" reporter during the morning of the September 11 attacks.


And, no, no one is under her thought control, there are numerous disagreements such as:


In late June 2017, Brzezinski was again the target of Trump's tweets in which he called her "low I.Q. Crazy Mika" and asserted that she was "bleeding badly from a face-lift".


From her side more recently, 7/12/23:

MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski tore into President Biden’s aides and staffers Wednesday for what she described as a lack of competence in managing his public appearances.


If you want to find her nest of agreements, it looks more like this from 9/21/23:


SECRETARY BLINKEN: It was an honor to do it. You know, Mika, I really revered your dad. I got to spend some time with him, got to learn a lot from him. So being able to do that lecture meant a lot.


Another pampered dynastic tragedy from Harvard.

The secret trick is that the vapors of her perfume can easily be pressed to the flash point, like a diesel engine, and then with all that polyester, poof! No more Mika.

[Rizotto]

"Worldwide protests calling for a ceasefire are drawing attention to the role of weapons manufacturers and distributors supplying machinery to Israel's assault on Gaza, with demonstrators blocking shipping tankers and entrances to weapons factories, and unionized workers refusing to handle military materiel over the war in Gaza. There is "a growing public awareness and anger" about the global connection between Western powers and the Israeli military industry, says Antony Loewenstein, who has investigated how Israeli weaponry and surveillance technology are used on Palestinians and exported around the world. "Israel is already, as we speak … live-testing new weapons in Gaza," says Loewenstein. He also discusses what he characterizes as the "intelligence" and "political" failures of the October 7 Hamas incursion."

Antony Loewenstein: Israel Is Testing New Weapons on Gaza as Arms Dealers Profit from Gaza War

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rGUoYnlboZk

[Bruce G Charlton]

"it seems inevitable that in the not too distant future the whole of the (Western) world will live in separate 15 minute Gazas, all of us at the mercy of the WEF"

Well said! It seems likely that something of that kind is The Plan at some level of The Establishment - each conflict being set-up by some mixture of funding/ protecting violent elements, provocation, false- and green-flags. And - probably likely - these will be pseudo-justified among some of the perpetrators by the chance/ promise of loot.

Yet, IMO this is just one of the strategies pursued by the spiritual powers of evil - and these powers are increasingly focusing on "senseless" (i.e. profitless, net-harmful) violence against men, animals, the plant world; and destruction of the earth itself.

As seen in the Ukraine. Which was a great nation... until manipulated into (and sinfully choosing) becoming consumed by resentment, fear and hatred directed against their Russian cousins - and leading to de facto self-annihilation of a people and a land (which is not yet finished).

The main outcome is not so much the short-term profit of the wicked, but the laughter of demons.

NOTE ADDED:

To tie this to the Palestine/ Israel conflict - I assume that the immediate goal of the Establishment is the annihilation of Gaza, and the hoped for goal is the consequent annihilation of Israel and the conflagration of as much of the Middle East as possible - drawing-in the West, and provoking internal violence of the many Western nations with Middle Eastern immigration.

All this destruction hoped-for (and planned), 'just' from organizing on the one side, and allowing on the other side, several hours of torment, slaughter and mayhem last month.

It is - as things stand, and with the leadership attitude of most powerful nations and multi-national groups - far too easy for the powers of purposive destruction to do their work.

If this conflict is indeed contained, then there will be another similar provocation along soon. The demon-affiliated Establishment plan destruction and chaos; but the rest of the world merely react.

[Jaak]

Source: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1724421151911297100

[Tintin]

Posted by Jaak (here)




https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1724421151911297100

Mod note from Tintin
Hi there Jaak - the images you're trying to share aren't appearing due to the formatting. It looks as if you are accessing those whilst logged into the Vigilant Citizen forum, but, we aren't seeing them. Also, our software will recognise .png at the end of an image file, not the - as shown on the url string. Tintin

[Agape]

Posted by Jaak (here)
Source: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1724421151911297100

This could be ..

mental ward for war veterans should there be many survivors left.

As in “Buddy be careful with that rhetorics they are now tracking your Twitter”.

🤧

[Tintin]

Next to impossible to be certain exactly when these were taken but it would have been quite some time before the occupation-proper of Palestine began, so assumed perhaps well before 1948, maybe even from the 1920s

Palestine pre 1948 in pictures

[grapevine]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)

The main outcome is not so much the short-term profit of the wicked, but the laughter of demons.

Gulp

NOTE ADDED:

To tie this to the Palestine/ Israel conflict - I assume that the immediate goal of the Establishment is the annihilation of Gaza, and the hoped for goal is the consequent annihilation of Israel and the conflagration of as much of the Middle East as possible - drawing-in the West, and provoking internal violence of the many Western nations with Middle Eastern immigration.

All this destruction hoped-for (and planned), 'just' from organizing on the one side, and allowing on the other side, several hours of torment, slaughter and mayhem last month.

It is - as things stand, and with the leadership attitude of most powerful nations and multi-national groups - far too easy for the powers of purposive destruction to do their work.

If this conflict is indeed contained, then there will be another similar provocation along soon. The demon-affiliated Establishment plan destruction and chaos; but the rest of the world merely react.

On a rather pessimistic note, it occurred to me that the worldwide condemnation and protests at the genocide has helped stay any jihadi element, and that the ptb had hoped the large number of muslim immigrants, particularly the unknown illegal element, would rise up and attack the public, which they haven't - yet.

[Tintin]

Anne Boyer, American poet and essayist, and now former poetry editor on the New York Times Magazine has tendered her resignation

It can also be read here: https://anneboyer.substack.com/p/my-resignation

Dan Sheehan writing for The Literary Hub wrote the following, published yesterday, November 16th:

It’s been a hell of a 24 hours for writers demonstrating moral courage.

Last night at the National Book Awards, over a dozen NBA finalists took to the stage to use their moment in the spotlight to oppose the ongoing bombardment of Gaza and to call for a ceasefire.

Then, earlier this morning, the news broke that Pulitzer Prize-winning poet, essayist, and poetry editor of the New York Times Magazine, Anne Boyer, has resigned from her post, writing in her resignation letter that “the Israeli state’s U.S.-backed war against the people of Gaza is not a war for anyone” and that she “won’t write about poetry amid the ‘reasonable’ tones of those who aim to acclimatize us to this unreasonable suffering.”

Here is Boyer’s extraordinary resignation letter—in which she takes direct aim at the language used by her (now former) employer in its coverage of the war on Gaza:

I have resigned as poetry editor of the New York Times Magazine.

The Israeli state’s U.S.-backed war against the people of Gaza is not a war for anyone. There is no safety in it or from it, not for Israel, not for the United States or Europe, and especially not for the many Jewish people slandered by those who claim falsely to fight in their names. Its only profit is the deadly profit of oil interests and weapon manufacturers. The world, the future, our hearts—everything grows smaller and harder from it. This is not only a war of missiles and land invasions. It is the ongoing devastation of the people of Palestine, people who have resisted throughout decades of occupation, forced dislocation, deprivation, surveillance, siege, imprisonment, and torture.

Because our status quo is self-expression, sometimes all artists have left is to refuse. So I refuse. I won’t write about poetry amidst the ‘reasonable’ tones of those who aim to acclimatize us to this unreasonable suffering. No more ghoulish euphemisms. No more sanitized hell-words. No more warmongering lies.

If this resignation leaves a hole in the news the size of poetry, then that is the true shape of the present.”

- Anne Boyer

Let’s hope that Boyer’s courage inspires other writers of her stature to use their platforms to speak out against this unconscionable war.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Even poetry has to be sacrificed for the cause...

[Bill Ryan]

New from The Moon of Alabama today:

• https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/1...hers.html#more

One Religion's War Against All Others

Alastair Crooke in Al Mayadeen:

Israeli popular sentiment -- even amongst former liberals -- is moving toward a Greater Nakba. Gaza is under Nakba pressures. So is the West Bank, as settler violence against Palestinians surges. Even a ‘liberal’ such as former opposition leader Lapid now agrees that ‘settlers’ in the occupied West Bank are not ‘settlers’ at all, since the land is but the ‘Biblical land of Israel’. Nakba ‘ambitions’ are widening to South Lebanon (up to the Litani River) too. The radical members of Netanyahu’s government say Israelis will never return to the kibbutz adjacent to Lebanon, without Hezbollah’s removal from the border area.
So, the call is heard for "Israel" to ‘take’ Lebanon up to the Litani (a key water source) -- and ‘serendipitously’ the Israeli air force has begun operating up to 40 kms inside Lebanon. Cabinet members now openly speak of the IOF needing to turn its attention to Hezbollah once Hamas has been ‘obliterated’.
...
Plainly, the White House is struggling to avoid the slide towards full regional war, as both the Lebanese front and the Iraqi front heats up: On Sunday, Iraqi movements again fired missiles at the American base in Shaddadi.
"Israel" is sensing the present crisis to be both an existential risk, but an ‘opportunity’ too – an opportunity to establish "Israel" across ‘its Biblical lands’ over the long term. There is no mistaking it -- this is the direction of travel of Israeli popular sentiment, from both Left and Right wings, to bloody eschatology.

As I had pointed out three weeks ago President Joe Biden had supported that Israeli Nakba strategy before he was forced to pull back:

US 'actively working' to establish safe corridor for Gaza civilians: White House - Yeni Safak - Oct 12, 2023 The US is in active talks with Israel and Egypt to establish "safe passage" corridors for civilians in Gaza to flee ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the White House said Wednesday amid an expected ground offensive in the besieged enclave. "We're actively discussing this with our Israeli and our Egyptian counterparts, we support safe passions for civilians. Civilians are not to blame for what Hamas has done. They didn't do anything wrong," National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters at the White House.
"We are actively working on this with Egyptian and our Israeli counterparts. Civilians are protected under the laws of armed conflict, and they should be given every opportunity to avoid the fighting," he added.

Israel is continuously squeezing the 2.3 million people in Gaza towards the Egyptian border:

Israel drops leaflets warning people to flee southern Gaza towns - Guardian - Nov 16 2023

Israel has dropped leaflets into southern Gaza telling Palestinian civilians to leave four towns on the eastern edge of Khan Younis, raising fears that its war against Hamas could spread to areas it previously said were safe. The flyers told civilians in Bani Shuhaila, Khuza’a, Abassan and al-Qarara that anyone in the vicinity of militants or their positions was “putting his life in danger”, local people told Reuters.
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The UN’s human rights chief, Volker Türk, said that five weeks into the war, “massive outbreaks of infectious disease, and hunger” seemed inevitable in the densely populated Palestinian territory. He predicted catastrophic consequences if fuel supplies ran out, including the collapse of sewage systems and healthcare and an end to the already scarce supplies of humanitarian aid.

The intentionally created misery will be used to put pressure on Egypt and others to open their borders for refugees. Then the same method will be applied in the West Bank. South Lebanon up the Litani river is a more difficult matter as Hizbullah, once unleashed, is a real existential thread to Israel. The rick there is to get the U.S. to do the bloody work.

And all this would not stop there as some extremist settlers want even more foreign land:

What are the borders of that Jewish nation?
The borders of the homeland of the Jews are the Euphrates in the east and the Nile in the southwest. [This would include the territory of multiple Middle Eastern countries as well as the territory that Israel controls today.]
There’s a Palestinian slogan that has become very controversial: “From the river to the sea,” which means from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. It’s controversial because it would include all the land that currently makes up Israel. But you’re saying from the river to the—
What is controversial?
Palestinians sometimes use the slogan “From the river to the sea.” But what you’re saying is that from the river to the Nile is the Jewish homeland, correct?
Of course. If someone decides to invent a new religion today, who will decide the rules? The first nation that got the word from God, the promise from God—the first nation is the one who has the right to it. The others that follow—Christianity and Islam, with their demands, with their perceptions—they’re imitating what existed already. So, why in Israel? They could be anywhere in the world. They came after us, in the double sense of the world.

This is a war by a significant number of believers in one religion against all others.

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This is a war by a significant number of believers in one religion against all others.

Knowing that it straddles "Judeo-Christianity" whilst some of the villains are atheists, I would suggest it is all attributable to the "Censors of One Name".

The concept Isra El should be transparent enough to admit that "El" is deity in general all over Canaan, or was, and is of course the father of Baal. But now what sectarianly is being exalted is Baal Yhwh, which has specific origins, that are neither universal nor friendly.

Here is a synopsis from The Invention of God:

In the next four chapters, Römer charitably introduces the development of Yhwh worship. In particular, he answers the question of how the cult of Yhwh gradually dominated the religious life of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. In the kingdom of Israel, for example, Yhwh was worshipped as a “Baal” insomuch as he was worshipped in the form of a bull and his sanctuaries existed all over Samaria, Bethel, Dan, and so on (116). Furthermore, the “worship of the Phoenician Baal as the god of Samaria provoked a revolt by groups attached to the worship or the Baal Yhwh” (118). The revolt made sense only if Elijah or Elisha, his successor, used the Yahwistic putsch to plot against the dynasty of Omri, and thus the Book of Kings inserted the stories of these two great prophets. On the contrary, in the kingdom of Judah, Yhwh “absorbed the functions of the sun god and combined the functions of two further kinds of gods, El and Baal. The temple of Jerusalem became the center of the kingship of Yhwh” (140).

In the last four chapters, Römer accounts for the reform of Josiah and the process of developing the monolatry of the cult of Yhwh. It is not surprising that numberless scholars argue for the impact of the Babylonian exile and the destruction of the temple in 597 BCE. It caused the Jewish scholars or elites to save their collective identity and religious belief through (re)writing some books of the Torah and comprehending the political turmoil in terms of Yhwh’s will.

The prophetic attitude, which is the first type of attitude, declared the crisis as the beginning of a new era. Thus what they foresee is a hope for a better future. The second manner is priestly. For this attitude, “the way to overcome the crisis is to return to the sacred origins of society” (214) and ignore the new reality. They try to preserve the tradition and their existing privileges. The last attitude is “mandarins,” which endeavored to “objectify the crisis by giving a historical account of it that explains the collapse of the old social structure” (215). Clearly, the Deuteronomistic school that supports the reforms of Josiah should belong to the “mandarin” position, insomuch as they explained the deportation by constructing the history of Yhwh and his people, from Moses to the present. This approach can account for the discourse from Deuteronomy to 2 Kings of the Hebrew Bible.

The Old Testament is a doggerel of social engineering.

Christianity could, perhaps, extract itself, even if Jesus was a complete fabrication, he only ever mentioned El, never Yhwh. You would then have to de-couple it and reject the rest of that background, because it would mesh with the cult of El, and you might come out with Ugarit Christianity.

Ugarit shared the fate of Israel, being demolished by Assyria, which did not involve re-programming into some new identity.

Ancient Canaanites knew nothing of this Moses to Yahwistic priests lineage, because it was invented later.

The English fell for it big time, which means that it founded the American colonies.

Ironically, the western European continent mostly kicked out the Jews, and would not let them back during the pre-Zionist troubles, and now the Israelis want them to accept Palestinians.

All of it seems quite maniacal if you are unable to take seriously such hardcore beliefs derived from one book.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Glenn Greenwald BLASTS Fox News For Abandoning Free Speech Over Gaza!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PFfDxsRIXns

Glenn Greenwald has been a not-infrequent guest on Fox News in recent years to talk about the erosion of civil liberties, attacks on free speech and related issues, but now Greenwald is directing his critical eye on Fox News itself, along with many others in the conservative movement, for embodying the very traits they have for so long criticized. The reason, of course, is Israel.

Jimmy and Kurt Metzger talk to System Update host Glenn Greenwald about how so many conservatives have become the snowflakes they previously excoriated.

[Satori]

Posted by Agape (here)

Posted by Jaak (here)
Source: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1724421151911297100

This could be ..

mental ward for war veterans should there be many survivors left.

As in “Buddy be careful with that rhetorics they are now tracking your Twitter”.

🤧

This is satire, right? It’s supposed to be a joke and funny, isn’t it? I’m waiting for Andy Kaufman to appear. Wait, that guy in the video may be him.

[Jaak]

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Even poetry has to be sacrificed for the cause...

Ernie, do you even know what poetry means.

Real poetry written by real poets – not the stuff written by people who want to be viewed as poets and used in that quality by the manipulators of language – sacrifices itself in the stead of the victims who are sacrificed. It sets itself ablaze because the sacrifice of phosphorus burning flesh tears through non-poetic language and renders it forever unusable as a vector of truth. Poetry burning on that pyre states that only language risen from a burning desire to represent truth is able to still stand for truth : namely that the beauty of living bodies is burning and that as real poetry it will not rescue itself from that contagious fire, even it takes the body of its poet with it.