The Multipolar World Order (yes, it's here)

[Vicus]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Brazil - far left government
Russia - communist
India - who knows, maybe arguably democratic
China - communist

These are the major players. The rest fall in line.

Its seems you live in the past (cold war) , about China the video above your post is clear enough,Russia is now long ago not communist,more than that, through his long suffer is vaccinated against ...

And the rest are just treating to find his way, whatever may be but not back in errors from the past.

But all of them plus many other country s, is there is one thing they have learned, is they want no more be servants from US/West.

That is why for the West is a shock! Now come the time where they go to learn a new lesson,just keep quite in their place and protect their own culture.And try for first time in their life to live in peace with the rest of the world.

How better relations in between? maintaining good commerce is a good beginning...

If you persist living in the past, this THREAD maybe can help you:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1583222

[Vicus]

[shaberon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
India - who knows, maybe arguably democratic

Hard to tell, we haven't figured out what it would mean yet.

The recent descriptions of India I have seen include:


Wahhabi

Zionist

Nazi


which sounds rather American, and, since that is called democratic along with the Europeans who support Ukraine, I suppose it is all one label. Actually, to take it from an Indian author, this label would be Fundamentalism.

In terms of finance and commerce, it matters more what a country's fiscal behaviors are. "Over there", private banks are not in charge the way they are here. Russia and China have the ability to curb this particular issue. I am not sure that is an "-ism" that can be defined by the English language.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Posted by Vicus (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Brazil - far left government
Russia - communist
India - who knows, maybe arguably democratic
China - communist

These are the major players. The rest fall in line.

Its seems you live in the past (cold war) , about China the video above your post is clear enough,Russia is now long ago not communist,more than that, through his long suffer is vaccinated against ...

And the rest are just treating to find his way, whatever may be but not back in errors from the past.

But all of them plus many other country s, is there is one thing they have learned, is they want no more be servants from US/West.

That is why for the West is a shock! Now come the time where they go to learn a new lesson,just keep quite in their place and protect their own culture.And try for first time in their life to live in peace with the rest of the world.

How better relations in between? maintaining good commerce is a good beginning...

If you persist living in the past, this THREAD maybe can help you:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1583222

Thanks for the concern. I don't want to live in the past, no.
And yes, I am ready to learn.

I cannot believe your comment on Russia.
China is clearly a regime held together by terror and an iron fist.
Brazil has arrested its democratic challenger, just like in America. They are extreme far left in policies - that's Communist.
India is split along race lines and there are often mass genocides carried out between the two.

This is the core of the group. The rest of the countries will have to kowtow to these four major players.

The four above cannot be trusted from a western perspective.


I've also noticed that this currency change is really about dismantling the west by subterfuge.

Our enemies are out in force, our destruction is their goal.

The west has lost its way but the rest of the world has no clue at all. It is up to us to restore the course our forefathers set hundreds of years ago.


It all began when we lost our privacy in the name of profit. Without privacy we are at the mercy of those with the most money and influence.
Democracy depends on transparency and the free exchange of ideas.
Notice how that has gone out the window?

And in this climate of rhetoric and propaganda, you want to trust Russia, China, India, and Brazil to play nice, and fair?
Russia and China just vetoed a UN resolution to condemn the actions of Hamas terrorists.
This is who you want to run the fiscal needs of the world.


Well, to convince me of the logic of that would take toothpicks in my eyelids and I would have to be subjected to many months worth of counter propaganda streamed forcefully into my brain. Even then I doubt I would be convinced.

[Ernie Nemeth]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-israel-london


This is the reason anyone is talking establishing a new currency.

London England.
Protestors against Israel and the war on Gaza.
How many are white Christians?
How many have family that is English at all?
Who invited them?
Why are they there?

Are they the new British caliphate?

Meanwhile in the United States, an Israel protest has been organized in New York in the Jewish sector - Hamas sympathizers. Residents have been told to stay inside to remain safe...
Jews have to stay inside in their own neighborhood while people walk by chant Jewish hatred and carrying banners with 'from the river to the sea'. That slogan means death to all of Israel.

And these are the people that will lead the new currency creation?
Sure thing...

[Vicus]

I cant believe your last post...

Definitive past dweller. For the present you have made already your mind about...


Live is change, and we all need to learn to cope with that fact...the past is death, only exist in your memory.

For my part I live in the present working for a better future.

I don't waste my time with the death.

By the way, about your Bruce Lee motto: you are no water but rock.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Ya, sometimes water can seem that way...when its crashing.

[shaberon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
It is up to us to restore the course our forefathers set hundreds of years ago.

Can you describe what on earth that could possibly be?



Yuan just bypassed the Reichsmark:

From January to September in 2023, the yuan cross-border payments reached a whopping 38.9 trillion yuan, demonstrating a 24% year-on-year hike.

The yuan's share in international settlements increased from 4.82% in August 2023 to 5.8% in September, which is the maximum in the last five years during which statistics are kept.

Thus, the yuan overtook the euro and for the first time became the second major currency in trade, according to data from the SWIFT system.

Another point was apparently taken from the Euro by the Dollar:

The first place is still occupied by the dollar, its share in September was 84.15% against 83.95% a month earlier.

Third place goes to the euro, which share decreased to 5.43% in September against 6.43% in August.

This is less about what anyone wants or trusts, it is just what is happening.

Once, Britain had China licked by the Opium War. But then ever since the U. S. Navy visited in 1850, they just cry "Terror!" which keeps going on like a broken record.



Some of this is in The Saker archives, which is a shame that he shut down because westerners oppose Christianity.

Although it was not much about China, there were some interesting articles by Thorsten Pattberg. Step one is that things have to stop being translated into English, such as this from a page of his quotes:


“Had I not come to China, I would have never learned that China is a wenming, that is has shengren and junzi, that is aspires to datong, and that "Confucianism" isn't a religion, that's not even its correct name, but is rujia.”



Remember: Confucianism, Europe copied parts of this for what it calls The Enlightenment of the 1600s. It has no intellectual history otherwise.

If not everyone agrees with Enlightenment, then they are using Unenlightened ideals from the 1600s, because there is no intellectual history.


There are several articles mainly on the Chinese situation posted at his wordpress site.

It might possibly help someone catch up. I'm not going to cross-post it all right now, but perhaps some of it in days to come. This is the view of someone who has worked there and listened politely. That sort of thing is hard to find.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I knew I should have erased that line.

Whose forefathers and what course...

[shaberon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I knew I should have erased that line.

Whose forefathers and what course...

I'm guessing that means the lines posted around it have a similar explanation?

[Kryztian]

UN votes overwhelmingly to condemn US embargo of Cuba
The US and Israel were the only two out of 190 UN members to oppose the document’s adoption
2 Nov, 2023 20:25
https://www.rt.com/news/586453-un-co...-embargo-cuba/

The UN General Assembly (UNGA) has adopted its annual resolution calling on Washington to end its decades-long economic blockade of Cuba. The document, which has been adopted for the 31st time, received nearly unanimous support, with only the US and Israel opposing it out of the 190 nations present at the vote. Ukraine was the only member to abstain.

The document urges every country to “refrain from promulgating and applying” any economic sanctions against Cuba and states that the UNGA is “concerned” over the fact that “the economic, commercial and financial embargo against Cuba is still in place.” The resolution also calls on any country that continues to uphold such restrictions against Havana to “repeal or invalidate” them “as soon as possible.”

Last year, the US and Israel were also the only two nations that voted against the document, while Brazil joined Ukraine in abstaining from the vote.

Speaking at the UNGA ahead of the vote, Cuban Foreign Minister Bruno Rodríguez Parrilla said that Washington’s policies amounted to “an act of economic warfare, in times of peace.” Cuba is not a threat to the US and America’s “illegal, cruel and inhumane policy” is nothing but an attempt to destroy the island’s constitutional order, he added.

The minister said that the “tightening economic siege” had recently been accompanied by a disinformation campaign against his nation, seeking to discredit it. Cuba’s top diplomat also expressed his support for the people of Palestine and demanded that Israeli bombardments of Gaza cease. “These barbaric acts must stop,” he said.

Following the vote, a US representative at the UN, Paul Folmsbee, simply stated that “the US opposes this resolution,” adding that sanctions are just “one set of tools” in America’s arsenal. He also said that Washington merely seeks to encourage Cuba to “advance democracy.”

The US initially broke off diplomatic relations with Cuba in 1960, after Fidel Castro and the Communist Party of Cuba took over the US-backed military dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista in 1959. Washington also imposed a military blockade of the island in 1962, during a nuclear missile crisis with the Soviet Union. The economic blockade has been in place ever since.

Restrictions were eased during Barack Obama’s presidency, but were reimposed under Donald Trump’s administration. Joe Biden and his administration have given no indication of ending the trade restrictions, despite decades of international condemnation. Washington leveled further sanctions against Havana in 2021, after the authorities suppressed anti-government riots that they claimed were US-backed.

In early October, Havana accused the US of provoking an economic crisis in Cuba. Washington’s sanctions policies have led to critical shortages of food, fuel, and medicine on the island, leading to massive emigration, it said.
https://www.rt.com/news/586453-un-co...-embargo-cuba/

[Ernie Nemeth]

I notice that the Arab nations, most of Africa, China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, and I guess a few others do not welcome illegal aliens, do not have any open borders, do not support the trans gender movement, are not curbing their oil use, do not worry about climate change, and are not preparing for the great reset. In fact, these same nations are the ones advocating for Hamas.

Judeo-Christianity is under attack because it is the underlying ideology that built the western world. For good or ill, the western world cannot survive without it.

And if Judeo-Christianity is rejected or defeated, Islam cannot legitimately claim supremacy as it is intimately linked to the former two.

This is the error of these countries. Islam will eventually suffer the same fate as Judeo-Cjristianity, and even for the same reason - that all the Abrahamic religions are flawed and illegitimate. It will be easily toppled when confronted by the same arguments and tactics because it will not have its cousin religions to fall back on any more.

Instead, the new world's religion will be scientism. It is already a tool used by the globalists, who claim 'ownership' of science.

How does one own science? By eradicating all dissenting and counter views and opinions. Science is discovery. What makes it past the challenges to its tenets becomes science fact, until it is discarded for a better proposition. Science is always changing, evolving, maturing. When science becomes dogma, when science is considered 'finished' except for a few 't's to cross and 'i's to dot, when science is upheld by convention and not contention, when science is claimed to be the domain of a few in positions of power, when science is 'owned', it is no longer science but a cult - a pseudo-religion in the making.

What has made science into a religion? The confusion between technology and science has. Technology is the application of scientific principles. The interesting thing about technology is that the science can be entirely wrong but the tech will still work. The tech does not care about the underlying understanding of its workings. What suffers is the direction the tech will take based on the science that explains it. If the science is flawed, the technology of the future will be affected.

Eventually, flawed scientific principles, that had allowed advancements in technology and seemed to be proven correct because of that tech, must be revisited and researched more thoroughly in order to advance technological designs. But as science falls further behind technology, the gap of ignorance widens and science becomes insufficient to continue the advancement. At that point science has to be defended and institutionalized. Soon common sense falls by the wayside. Then not long after, common decency must also. Then only rhetoric and propaganda remain. That is the state of science in general today.

Remember, enemies of Israel and the West, when we are gone, you will be next.

They lied to you just as they lie to us now. Islam will not be the last religion.

Science will be.

[pounamuknight]

The West is being attacked by illegal immigrants

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
It is not a single country under attack. It is the entire western world.

But the non-West is not welcoming illegal immigrants

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I notice that the Arab nations, most of Africa, China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, and I guess a few others do not welcome illegal aliens

Illegal immigration for thee and not for me?

Illegal and mass immigration are only the symptom of larger problems in countries they're escaping. Geopolitical problems like say war, like say in Syria & Ukraine

And now Gaza bursting against Egypt's doorstep



The entire world has mass immigration problems, not just the "entire western world." Especially in these massively whacky times

[Vicus]

US aiming to ‘kill’ major Arctic energy project – official 9 Nov, 2023

Washington must also deter Asia from dependence on Moscow, Geoffrey Pyatt has claimed


The Utrenneye field, the resource base for Novatek's Arctic LNG 2 project in the Gydan Peninsula, on the Kara Sea shoreline in the Arctic Circle. © Maksim Blino

The White House is planning to “kill” Russia’s Arctic LNG 2 energy project, according to US assistant secretary of state for energy resources, Geoffrey Pyatt.

The project in the northern Gydan Peninsula is operated by independent Russian LNG producer Novatek. It will feature three LNG trains, with a total annual production capacity of 19.8 million tons. The first train was launched in July, while the remaining two are scheduled for 2024 and 2025.

Speaking on Wednesday at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on US national security interests in Ukraine, Pyatt stated: “Last week, for instance, we levelled new sanctions against the Arctic LNG 2, which is Novatek’s flagship project”

“Our objective is to kill that project,” he stressed, claiming that the project had been set up with the aim of turning Russia into the world’s largest LNG exporter.

According to Pyatt, Russia’s plans are being stifled by sanctions imposed through cooperation between the US and its allies in the G7 and beyond.

The US official also said the White House is “working with the countries [that] historically have depended on Russian energy, and [are] paying in to the Kremlin’s resources.” Pyatt claimed that this has been done “quite successfully” in the EU.

“We need to keep focusing on the Asian front,” he added, stressing that the current price cap coalition would help to achieve that objective.

According to Pyatt, the $60 per-barrel price ceiling on Russian seaborne oil exports imposed by EU and G7 countries in December has managed to cut Moscow’s energy revenues, while keeping Russian crude on global markets and avoiding further destabilization.

Earlier this week, Japanese Economy Minister Yasutoshi Nishimura said that sanctions on the Arctic LNG 2 project could have a major negative impact on business in Japan, adding that Tokyo would work with the G7 to maintain stable energy supplies.

Japan had previously exempted Russian LNG projects in Sakhalin and the Arctic from sanctions and continued to provide architectural and engineering services to the country.

https://swentr.site/business/586890-...ic-lng-russia/

[Vicus]

West has lost billions trying ‘to teach Russia a lesson’ – Lavrov 8 Nov, 2023

Sanctions designed to hurt Moscow are destroying the global economy, the foreign minister says

https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2023.11/...21c42339f8.jpg

EU businesses have lost at least €250 billion ($266.6 billion) due to the sweeping sanctions imposed on Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated on Wednesday.

According to the top diplomat, these are “very conservative estimates” of the damage that the West has inflicted on its own businesses over the past year-and-a-half by introducing unilateral sanctions.

Russia-EU trade turnover totaled $200 billion in 2022 and is expected to drop to less than $100 billion by the end of 2023, according to the Foreign Ministry.

The latest ministry estimates show that mutual trade between Russia and EU member states, which totaled $417 billion in 2013, could have reached $700 billion this year were it not for the sanctions.

Speaking at a Ukraine-related meeting with the heads of diplomatic missions in Moscow, Lavrov said that, while the EU shows no sign of reversing its policies, Russia is creating independent trade mechanisms.

“We understand perfectly well that the sanctions imposed against us will not go away in the foreseeable future, and even in the longer term. We don’t need this, not because we choose isolationism or self-sufficiency. The West decided to destroy the world economy for the sake of teaching Russia a lesson,” he said.

Lavrov stressed that Russia will rely “exclusively” on itself in strategic areas. According to Lavrov, the country is now building up new transport corridors and supply chains that will be “beyond the control of malicious influence” from the West.

Many economists worldwide have repeatedly emphasized that Western sanctions have failed to achieve the declared goal of destabilizing Russia and its economy. While the Russian economy initially suffered a downturn as a result of restrictions last year, it has now largely recovered after redirecting trade to the East, according to the Finance Ministry.

Thus far, the EU has introduced 11 sanctions packages against Russia over its military operation in Ukraine. The number of restrictions has reached tens of thousands, although officials in the EU and US have repeatedly admitted that the negative impact of the penalties on Russia has not been as significant as expected.

https://swentr.site/business/586822-...ctions-lavrov/

[shaberon]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Judeo-Christianity is under attack because it is the underlying ideology that built the western world. For good or ill, the western world cannot survive without it.

And if Judeo-Christianity is rejected or defeated, Islam cannot legitimately claim supremacy as it is intimately linked to the former two.

If one were to say Roman Catholicism converted Europe by force, then, it is not particularly Judaic-friendly. That is the closest thing I know to a "builder" of the west as a whole.

The phrase "Judeo-Christianity" has a connotation that is particularly English. This is Zionism.

Islam already claims that Jews and Christians have flawed beliefs, so it would be irrefutable on the basis that it somehow "depends" on those others or must submit to their older age.

Christianity--even the Catholics and especially the Orthodox--basically reject Judaism and attempt to revolutionize something utterly different.

I am not sure why the west would really require a chimera of two Asian traditions which are essentially at odds with each other.

I could say that Zionism and Catholicism are the Left and Right which both work for the central Fascism.

Doesn't work like that in non-westernized places that lack these paradigms.


Russia has figured out some way that Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists can co-exist as their own communities, which do not support that Hegelian echo chamber. Those additional difficulties are completely unnecessary. I'm guessing one of the main things you have to do is give up on that Crusade, Caliphate, Zion, or whatever, and try to spend time enriching the community.

In that sense, Orthodox Christianity isn't going anywhere, I can almost promise that. As to the western kinds and/or what it means for survival, everything is blurry right now.



Meanwhile from Cairo:

In May 2023, a total of 127 companies in the United Kingdom admitted to having violated the sanctions imposed on Russia by the Western bloc, according to the British outlet. By admitting it, companies hope to reduce the fines their government has introduced against those who continue cooperation in the economic field with the Eurasian country.

It tells us nothing as to who did not admit it.

Now as we go along through this billiards table of economics and law, we have gotten a pretty close look at what "de-militarize" means.

Not saying it's over, just that its cost in Ukrainian lives is significant.

It may be even worse to be forced to find out what "de-nazify" means, when seen to the extent of what is now law there and even in the schools and so on, banning the church, it is almost as if every single thing in the whole country is now regulated by what might be seen as "nazism", which the US and UK do not like to condemn at the UN. I have no idea what may be able to pass review.

The identity crisis for the west seems to be how to remain relevant.

[grapevine]

Putin's redline is DEVASTATING for the unipolar order, and he's not BLUFFING | Redacted News

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5ZXvUUSuX88

14.48 mins

While the world is distracted by Israel, Russian President Putin has made some massive moves that will upend the Unipolar world order led by the United States. Putin made three huge moves over the past few days that the mainstream media largely ignored. In this video we'll explore how this will push American hegemony further into decline.

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Angelo4justice3/status...18386811588629

https://x.com/Angelo4justice3/status...92841038094700

https://x.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status...99388212220150

[Vicus]

RIP Argentina? unfortunately yes

I and many others voted yesterday under heavy rain and then went home under the satisfaction "mission accomplish"...
Later at night after reading the result I became a heavy heart until now...

As dessert read that this "entity" new president want to convert to Judaism and is a supporter Israhell and all the sickness US/west are proud of.

But today was for me also clear why this catastrophe came to be...3 words: the youngster generation...
People born after 9/11 don't have /want any clue about anything! ...

First clue about came to me when I saw one day a large group of young people waiting in line at midday , my first thought was . well, another
after hour party...nope...they were waiting in line like cattle to take the jab!
Because they absolute needed to party further,to eat in chic vegan restaurants,etc...

from this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1585158

Understanding the Nine Veils:

The first veil: Ten percent of us will pierce the first veil and find the world of politics. We will vote, become active and develop an opinion. Our opinions will be shaped by the physical world around us; we will have been “conditioned” from our days in public education to accept that government officials, network media personalities and other “experts” are the primary voices of authority. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

they are dwellers in the first veil, because only up the second veil maybe they would understand what disaster they are conjured.

The second veil: Ten percent of us will also pierce the second veil to explore the world of history, the relationship between man and government and the meaning of self-government through constitutional and common law. Ninety percent of the people in this group will live and die without having pierced the third veil.

Who cares! right? we want sex, drugs and whatever noise passed today as music!

We people in Avalon are the "Revelations" generation, after years tumbling down in rabbit holes it revealed to us many dark topics but we are still here!
We dint die but has make us stronger!

But the younger generation is the "Reset" generation...the droids/drones...
they were "sanitized" through social media,they bought all the lies,clime warming, electro cars that consume more resources, all the new shiny
gizmos, all the bad science fiction from Elon Musk,etc their poster girl: Grim Greta...
They cant wait for CBDC...

Somewhere in Avalon is the talk that some Aliens are in reality future humans...they come here to sample fresh DNA because they are dying /or
they are now like Borgs(star trek) therefore a threat for other "galactic folks", The Dark forces?

I understand now the why for a RESET...in every sense: social engineering/geologic...

[shaberon]

Interesting title for this guy's group:





Syria participated in the meeting of the international organizing committee for the informal association of political parties and social forces “The Forum of Campaigners Against Modern Practices of Neocolonialism” chaired by the Deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev.

Medvedev stressed in his speech during the meeting the necessity of confronting neo-colonial practices in the political, economic, food security and other fields and the West’s attempts to dominate and impose its rules of the game on most of the peoples of the world, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The statement added that representatives of the participating organizations voiced their full support and readiness for close cooperation in opposing the hegemonic policy pursued by the US and its supporters and in order to form a multipolar world order while preserving the sovereignty, independence and equality of all countries.