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    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad:

    Most people don't know that the rise of the Nazis between World War I and World War II was supported by the Americans. Many believe that the West defeated the Nazis during the Normandy landings, but few know that Hitler's defeat began in 1941 at the walls of Moscow. Two years after the start of the war, the West and especially the United States did not take any action against the Nazis. Stalin called on America to intervene, but she refused. The US wanted the Nazis and Communists to destroy each other so they could control Europe once both sides were weakened. The famous Nuremberg trials were carried out on Nazi leaders who refused to cooperate with America. Those who cooperated lived with honor in America.

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    https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1737123781775184192



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    Putin about the causes of the war in Ukraine.

    1. The West, in a sense, “outplayed” Russia in the situation around Ukraine after 2014.
    2. We tried to fight the nationalists with economic means and concessions. The West did not agree to an agreement and started a war in Ukraine in 2014
    3. Russian people live in the Southeast, their only native language is Russian, traditions are also Russian
    4. The West saw that it was impossible to achieve its goals by legal means, since we were working with the southeast, so it went for a coup d’etat
    5. There would have been a massacre in Crimea if Russia had not annexed the peninsula after the coup in Kyiv in 2014. The West achieved its goals, and we had no choice but to help Crimea
    6. We calmly tried to come to an agreement, we were ready to restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine on certain conditions, so as not to endanger the people who live there
    7. The West has always scared the West with Russia, but we are not going to fight with Europe. Why do we need these NATO countries? We didn’t need them, and we won’t need them in the future.
    8. If the Minsk agreements on Donbass were implemented, everything would “gradually grow together.” The USA achieved what they wanted, but what, they had to give up everything and watch them slurp
    9. We couldn’t behave differently or just hand over everything and watch them chomping away, eating everything in a row - ours, primordially Russian.
    10. The United States deliberately dragged Russia and Europe into the conflict, achieved its goal, but Moscow had no other options. Europe cannot resist the United States due to its dependence.
    11. For Russia, Ukraine’s entry into NATO would be unacceptable even in 10-15 years, and not just now.
    12. Russia will negotiate on Ukraine solely based on its interests.

    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1737077811263795422

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    [QUOTE=Ravenlocke;1591702]https://x.com/mazzenilsson/status/1737061219121459367



    BREAKING:

    ⚡ 🇩🇪 Member of the Bundestag from the CDU Roderich Kiesewetter:

    "We must seize the lithium in Donetsk and Lugansk"

    "If Europe wants to achieve energy transition, then it needs its own lithium deposits. The largest lithium deposits are located in the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk"

    Lithium is the material from which batteries are made. This is the first such direct recognition from Germany and confirms the facts that I have written many times.

    One of the main goals of NATO was to break Russia from within into smaller states and through Western corporations to seize their natural resources. The same way they did in Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc. That's why the west went "all in" on this war against Russia and lost.

    Europe had two options before the war, continue to cooperate with Russia and use the cheap resources they were getting, or declare war on her, crush her and seize those resources for even cheaper price.

    They chose the second path and now their downfall is happening. While the US fulfilled its planned plans, it cut off Germany and Europe from gas and cooperation with Russia and now sells them 4 times more expensive liquid gas.

    On the other hand, the USA successfully began to push Europe out of the fight for the world's most powerful economies, in which China also joined.

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    🇷🇺Putin “Russified” the holdings of two joint ventures of Gazprom - no more foreign management in Russian fields

    The President signed decrees that provide for the creation of an LLC, to which all rights, assets and obligations of Gazprom’s joint ventures with the German company Wintershall Dea and the Austrian OMV will be transferred: Severneftegazprom, which is developing the Yuzhno-Russkoye field, as well as Achimgaz and "Achim Development", which develop sections of the Urengoy field.

    The recent law that secured the right of the head of state to introduce management of property is only gaining momentum. Previously, Pulkovo Airport was also “Russified” - the government, according to a presidential decree, took control of the air harbor away from foreign companies.

    readovkanews

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    The UN General Assembly adopted a Russian resolution on the fight against the glorification of Nazism: Ukraine and the United States are against

    118 countries voted for the resolution, 49 were against, and 14 abstained. Among those against were the USA, Ukraine, Britain, and Germany. The document was voted for, among others. China and Israel.
    ▪️The document recommends that countries take appropriate concrete measures, “including in legislation and education, in accordance with their international human rights obligations, in order to prevent the revision of the history and outcome of the Second World War and the denial of crimes against humanity and military crimes committed during the Second World War."
    ▪️The document “strongly condemns” incidents related to the glorification and propaganda of Nazism, in particular the application of graffiti and drawings of pro-Nazi content, including on monuments to the victims of World War II.
    http://t.me/RVvoenkor

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    🇺🇸🇫🇮 The United States will station its military contingent in Finland on the border with Russia.

    The United States will station their troops in Finland on the border with the Russian Federation. Details of the defense deal have not yet been revealed, but it includes more than just the deployment of American troops. The agreement with the United States is aimed at providing rapid military assistance to Finland in the event of a conflict, the country's officials said.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    seriously?
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    seriously?
    Here's a 3 minute report from Voice of America, published yesterday.

    Finland Signs Defense Deal with US, Temporarily Shuts Border with Russia


    The video text:
    Finland entered into a defense cooperation agreement with the United States on Monday, allowing the U.S. military access to Finnish national security facilities. In the past month, Finland closed its border with Russia, accusing the Kremlin of sending migrants in an act of 'hybrid warfare.'

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    Finland is being reckless here, becoming another Ukraine, a flash point for more war, how can Russia tolerate American bases on its border, or the nuclear missiles which are bound to be installed!

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    far-right racism scandal finland government

    Seems to be dated July 12th this year.

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    Finland’s new prime minister has had his honeymoon period savagely cut short by two racism scandals that have thrown his government into turmoil.

    Center-right leader Petteri Orpo, widely regarded as a dependable political operator, is already watching the uproar undercut one of his key strategic moves: The decision to team up with the far-right Finns Party in government.

    The Finns Party has long been seen as something of a wild card in Finnish politics, pushing a “Finland first” line, which has seen it advocate strong anti-EU and anti-immigration positions. Its leaders, from Timo Soini to Jussi Halla-aho to current chief Riikka Purra, have long kept headline writers busy with flamethrowing speeches and populist blog posts.

    After elections in April, Purra secured serious influence in Orpo’s new government, not least by taking the role of finance minister and deputy prime minister for herself during lengthy government formation talks.

    More at link above.

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    Aussie Cossack (Simeon Boikov) is known for occasional exaggeration (or jumping the gun on unconfirmed news), but nonetheless this is pretty interesting.

    The text:
    BREAKING: Vladimir Putin hints at the return of Western Ukrainian border regions once annexed by Stalin from Poland, Hungary & Romania.
    Potentially this means:
    • Transcarpathia back to Hungary
    • Galicia back to Poland
    • Bukovina back to Romania

    https://twitter.com/aussiecossack/st...96322573115620

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    Telegram channel Vladtoday: Briefing by Secretary of State Biden Antony Blinken.

    Russia has become weaker economically, militarily and diplomatically, while NATO has become larger. (Maybe Blinken was given something hallucinogenic at the Ukrainian McDonald’s? He still can’t come to his senses: he’ll soon start caroling with Zelensky in Congress about new tanks)

    Putin has already lost the war with Ukraine, since he did not achieve his main goal - to wipe Ukraine off the face of the earth and absorb it into Russia. (Is this the parallel reality where the USA won in Afghanistan and Vietnam? Tell me, who knows...&#129300

    Our support not only helped the Ukrainians, 90% of the security assistance we provided to Ukraine was spent here in the US, strengthening our defense industry. (But this already seems to be true)

    I agree with Putin on one thing: American assistance is critical for Ukraine. (No comments)

    We will continue to engage with China from a position of strength. (Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word “diplomacy”?)

    The US has a “clear plan” for the future development of Ukraine, which does not imply the need to allocate funds at the current level. (They had a plan and they stuck to it 🤦‍♂️)

    There is no “magic pot” of money; we have practically run out of time and money to help Ukraine. 👏

    But we need to help Ukraine survive winter, spring and summer. (... and Zelensky and Biden...)

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    🇷🇺🇺🇦Ukrainian channel Strana:

    Six thousand men of military age leave Ukraine every day. Of these, only 150-200 people are volunteers under the “Shlyakh” system.

    This was announced by the head of the department for organizing border control of the Western Regional Directorate of the State Border Guard Service, Igor Matviychuk.

    Recently, the scheme of leaving mothers with many children after marriage has become popular.

    Many leave as accompanying disabled people, there is also a loophole there - one disabled person can be taken out several times by different people if the act of establishing the fact of leaving is forged.

    Another large percentage of men leaving have certificates of unfitness for military service.

    Some even change the gender on their passport - without surgery on the body.

    Slavyangrad
    https://x.com/dana916/status/1737481637103911181


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