Our Moon

**OnyxKnight** · 15th October 2011 14:02

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
The Moon was once part of the Polaris system. Brought here some 50.000+ years BC.

Oxy,

What do your source say that it is? It seems ... not entirely naturally formed ... and is certainly not a natural satellite of earth - that much is certain ...

It started off as a natural object. Than it was turned into a research facility.

The fact that it has heavier elements on the surface and more lighter elements inside itself is due to the ET groups who were molding it. They heated away the inner material and brought it to the surface, leaving empty cases inside it. Hence why there is heavier material above, and also geological structures like the Moon had a volcanic activity (which is not true).

Its why it ringed in some areas like its hollow too.

Posted by seehas (here)

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
The Moon was once part of the Polaris system. Brought here some 50.000+ years BC.

thats a hell of a trip for a motorhome

Its been even further

.

Like 1000 light years across the local galactic region. It has just "ended up" here for the time being.

**Snowbird** · 15th October 2011 16:16

I have no idea whether this is true or not, but I think that it makes a great deal of sense. We ARE adversely affected by the Moon.

September 12, 2011
STANKOV UPDATES: The Magnetic Pole Shift is coming in this Fall as Part of Earth's Ascension; North Pole Will Move to Siberia. South Pole Will Move to South America and Africa; Moon Will be Removed From Earth's Orbit

by Georgi Stankov

Why the Moon Must be Removed

I have left one very important aspect of the magnetic pole shift for the end. The moon, as some may know, is an artificial satellite and has been placed by the Anunnaki in orbit as to create dark negative energies and increase the density of our planet. It has a very negative overall impact on the human ethereal fields and influence to a large extent the functioning of the three lower chakras, which are responsible for the human sexual, carnal, and other compulsive actions. Most of the human karma on this planet has been engendered by the three lower chakras of the incarnated entities. All wars, atrocities, and other crimes are energetically driven by the energies of the lower human chakras.

In the past, the Orion Empire had huge bases on the moon, from where it controlled earth and humanity. These bases were taken over by the Forces of Light two years ago, as I have written in my essay "Why the Many Delays in the Ascension Scenario" For this reason, the moon must be removed from the earth's orbit, when the magnetic pole shift has taken place. This artificial satellite of the Dark Forces no longer comply with the harmonious high frequency energies from the 4th and 5th dimensions that will flood earth after the shift. This operation is also necessary, as otherwise the new vertical position of the planet's axis with respect to the sun`s plane could not be established and maintained.

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/2012ago...north-pol.html

Some additional info:

Andromedan Earth representative/contactee

The human representative of the Andromeda Council states he has been given the Andromedan name “Tolec.”

Tolec is a well-adjusted 20-year career professional in the computer industry. In his ExopoliticsTV interview, Tolec states he was first contacted in 1993 by his principal Andromedan contact who took him on three time travel journeys via Andromedan space craft to the 1840s western U.S. visiting the same 1840s family to observe their live journey.

Tolec states that his Andromeda contacts ended subsequent to the 1993 contacts until the Andromedan Council contacted him again in September 2010.

In his above ExopoliticsTV interview, Tolec states that he receives information updates from his Andromeda Council contacts in a number of modalities:

Telepathic communication with Andromedan representatives

Automatic writing from Andromedan representatives

Communication in the dream state with Andromedan representatives

Visions from the Andromedan representatives

Interdimensional travel of his soul essence to a venue of communication, such as an Andromedan ‘biosphere”

According to Tolec, the Andromeda Council has a number of “biospheres” or large planetoid-like spherical spacecraft stationed around Earth.

One such biosphere has 26 stories and a staff of 50,000.

What possibly can be the value of Earth humans?

Fortunately, the majority of the council gave the opinion that because Earth has been manipulated for over 5,700 years, that we deserved an opportunity to prove ourselves - to at least have a shot at proving the other part of the council wrong.

“They want everything extraterrestrial on the planet, in the planet and Earth’s moon out of here. The reason for this is that they want to see how we will act when we are not being manipulated. We are all being manipulated, and my first suggestion is to throw your television set away. I can’t tell you how sincere I am about that. They are teaching you what to think, not how to think. If you give that up, you become a robot. You become sheeple.”

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...erations19.htm

**Vitalux** · 15th October 2011 16:38

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
divine_moments_of_truth

I use to study the same things about the moon.
Here are some things I should point out that will probably help make a bit more sense.

The Moon Does rotate. A solar day on the moon is about 27.32 days relative to a solar day on earth.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...ay_on_the_moon

Here is where you have to separate fact from fiction and misinformation.

NASA never ...Ever......Sent a Man to the MOON....No Man or NASA Apollo space craft ...ever left earth orbit. It was a hoax very much like 911.

Therefore, any talk of NASA crashing a space ship into the moon is just Propaganda and lies.

If we take a pot full of boiled turnips, then we take a big dump in the pot, then we pull out a blender and mix it all together.
It gets pretty hard to try and figure out the food from the human crap.

NASA and the News Media do that to the people to always keep them dazed and confused.

Is our moon anomalies..? definitely.

Good post, just wanted to toss in a bit of food for thought

What is your source for this information that makes you so certain of this?

My friend it boils down to this.

People only hear and see, what they want to listen to and see.
People don't want to know the truth.

Unfortunately this is one of the major downfalls of our species.

The entire world is swimming in a vast ocean of ignorance and I continually witness cesspool examples in these forums.

Posted by nearing (here)
I have to go on my gut with the Moon. My gut tells me we went there but the stuff we were fed was completely fabricated for our consumption. And, yes, we are not welcomed back.

Also, I don't think the Moon does rotate, despite what Wiki says. The same face is ALWAYS facing us but turns my a few degrees, not even close to entirely rotating. We NEVER see the 'dark side' of the Moon here on Earth.

I feel it is not a natural satellite at all. It's a home base for someone and they are keeping an eye on us.

Eh, call me crazy.

In this above example, the writer express that even though he has complete ignorance and will not take the time to go and actually study astronomy "his intuition gut feeling" dictates his intelligence so he ignores the facts and joins the pack as an advocate for ignorance.

Posted by Kano (here)
My .02

I think you are probably both somewhat correct. I think we did in fact send astronauts to the Moon but far before the late 60's and most likely with some help from our "friends". Therefore, the data, the rock collecting, the Moon ringing like a bell, etc would be authentic. However, the media coverage that was presented to the world in the summer of '69 was totally a hoax.

Here we have a guy that agrees NASA did not land a man on the Moon, however he is convinced that a secrete space agency landed there before the 1960's.

Would it be too much for me to ask if anyone could actually provide me with direct evidence of such statement? Does anyone happen to have a relative that happen to be part of these earlier moon walks? How about anyone with a photo showing the base on Earth where the space ships lifted off from?

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
The Moon was once part of the Polaris system. Brought here some 50.000+ years BC.

My friend when you are told something, do you ever question it?
Do you have any idea how far away that multiple star Polaris is away from Earth is? Would it surprise you to learn that Polaris is about 434 light-years from Earth.

If aliens wanted to park a moon here why wouldn't they just grab one of Jupiter's 63 moons?

In conclusion the evidence of Man not going to the moon.

The simple stuff. You tube videos

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4yLBEKpOv34

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OpmOVG3TGmg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CVk_jYLCyi8

These are just a very tiny piece of the tip of the ice berg.

There are countless books. I just suggest that you start investigating and try and understand a little about how physics actually works in space.

The problem is that MOST PEOPLE don't want to believe the truth. NASA Apollo missions never actually went to the moon.
Much safer to crawl under the safety of fairy tale belief system.

Please understand this response is not meant as an attack. It is only to point out that there is a huge difference in going out and studying and learning about the nature of things around us, questioning everything until we find truths, rather than just following others that are just as blind as the next person.

Yes the Moon is odd, however would someone please state known facts, rather than echo statements based on superstition, ignorance, or just repeating ridiculous stories others have made up, which are now advocated as facts rather than some ridiculous theories of some guy probably having some epiphany while stoned on magic mushrooms.

**Kano** · 15th October 2011 22:15

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)

My friend it boils down to this.

People only hear and see, what they want to listen to and see.
People don't want to know the truth.

Unfortunately this is one of the major downfalls of our species.

The entire world is swimming in a vast ocean of ignorance and I continually witness cesspool examples in these forums.
...

These are just a very tiny piece of the tip of the ice berg.

There are countless books. I just suggest that you start investigating and try and understand a little about how physics actually works in space.

The problem is that MOST PEOPLE don't want to believe the truth. NASA Apollo missions never actually went to the moon.
Much safer to crawl under the safety of fairy tale belief system.

Please understand this response is not meant as an attack. It is only to point out that there is a huge difference in going out and studying and learning about the nature of things around us, questioning everything until we find truths, rather than just following others that are just as blind as the next person.

Yes the Moon is odd, however would someone please state known facts, rather than echo statements based on superstition, ignorance, or just repeating ridiculous stories others have made up, which are now advocated as facts rather than some ridiculous theories of some guy probably having some epiphany while stoned on magic mushrooms.

My man, are you an astrophysicist? Are you even a physicist? What makes you think you "know" anything more than the rest of us? Because I can't quote you chapter and verse of some book that was accepted as mainstream and factual? You're truth is not mine and that's the only important thing to deduce from your words.

Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

Happy researching.

**Billy** · 15th October 2011 23:04

I was wondering that maybe the moon was brought in to try and suppress/control the divine feminine, Gaia and all feminine energy.

If anyone finds the keys to the moon let me know, we can take her for a spin.

**apokalypse** · 16th October 2011 08:50

Alex Collier on The Moon in 1994 Interview

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BvvJcFcA_qE

**nearing** · 17th October 2011 17:56

Gary, I don't trust anything that comes from the official institutions. I long ago became disillusioned with our educational system (hence the teaching of mainstream physics, not at all what the cutting edge physicists in alternative circles adhere to) and the government as well. My intuition hasn't been proven wrong yet in over 4 decades. It has a damn fine track record. Our 'official institutions'? Not so much.

If you think my intuition is less reliable than our government, then I can't change your mind nor do I want to even try.

Side note: I am a she, not a he.

**13th Warrior** · 18th October 2011 13:51

Hello Gary,

Although you quoted my post it appears you are speaking directly to others than me?

You wrote:

Please understand this response is not meant as an attack. It is only to point out that there is a huge difference in going out and studying and learning about the nature of things around us, questioning everything until we find truths, rather than just following others that are just as blind as the next person.

...and this is the exact point of my question

What is your source for this information that makes you so certain of this?

I have watched the first two videos that you've posted and i will watch the third; my assessment thus far is that there is good evidence to suggest that the moon landing footage that has been cleared for public air has been fabricated but, what hasn't been proven to me is that we haven't been to the moon...ever.

**OnyxKnight** · 18th October 2011 22:00

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
My friend when you are told something, do you ever question it?

Do you have any idea how far away that multiple star Polaris is away from Earth is? Would it surprise you to learn that Polaris is about 434 light-years from Earth.

Yes. I do.

But would you, a terran, question somebody who is actually capable to actually travel those distances, and had seen for themselves?

I'm aware how far Polaris is. I know the all the details on the star system. The moon comes from one of the last planets in orbit around the second star (Polaris B).

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
If aliens wanted to park a moon here why wouldn't they just grab one of Jupiter's 63 moons?

Because neither Jupiter's, Saturn's or any other planet of this system's moons are their property. Only the Moon we see on the sky at night is.

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
There are countless books. I just suggest that you start investigating and try and understand a little about how physics actually works in space.

And these people would know because they have tested their theories in space?

Maybe some of them has been to Polaris too?

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
The problem is that MOST PEOPLE don't want to believe the truth. NASA Apollo missions never actually went to the moon.
Much safer to crawl under the safety of fairy tale belief system.

They didn't make the first attempts, yes. The rest of the missions are real. They had a green light to do it.

And you can't talk with me about physics is there is no man in space that has actually tried superluminal craft and base their theories of space travel solely on that.

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
Please understand this response is not meant as an attack. It is only to point out that there is a huge difference in going out and studying and learning about the nature of things around us, questioning everything until we find truths, rather than just following others that are just as blind as the next person.

Even if they are from out of space, and have been there before the Earth was formed from its accretion disk?

Posted by gary-arsenault (here)
Yes the Moon is odd, however would someone please state known facts.

FACT: It has hollow pockets;

FACT: It has volcanic geological features yet has never had any natural volcanic activity. Where does the lava come from?

FACT: Explain how heavy elements have found their way on the surface, some of which are artificially created on Earth by humans to be used in ship hulls?

Just something to start the heat up.

Do you like? Can we go on?

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Posted by apokalypse (here)
Alex Collier on The Moon in 1994 Interview

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BvvJcFcA_qE

The multiple star system called by Alex Collier as "Chowta" is actually Polaris.

He indirectly confirms that information. So its not just me.