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    The problem with the argument around whether or not the Mandela affect is a real thing or not is this;

    There are two groups of people. One group has things in the past that have changed. The other group have not experienced any changes.

    As both groups of people are correct with what they remember, it is pointless to argue about it.

    What we should be looking at is how this happened? And why did it happen to a certain percentage of people and not everyone?

    The effect itself was not perfect in it's completion as some things/items were not affected. For example, some items within a Ford engine did not have the "F" change. Why? Was it because it was shielded by other components?

    I am not sure that we will ever know the truth about how this occurred.

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    The problem with the argument around whether or not the Mandela affect is a real thing or not is this;

    There are two groups of people. One group has things in the past that have changed. The other group have not experienced any changes.

    As both groups of people are correct with what they remember, it is pointless to argue about it.
    When it comes to small trivial things it's far less likely in my opinion that both are correct and are remembering two different timelines. What it more likely, in the great majority of these cases, is that one remembers correctly, the other doesn't. Arguments naturally arise when there's no way to prove who's right.

    Just recently I had a firm (and trivial) disagreement with my sister over which year a particular favourite uncle of ours came to spend new year's. She swore up and down it was 1983-84, and gave good reasons for that. I on the other hand insisted it was 82-83, and I had good reasons of my own (I am positive I am right). But whatever the case, we are not remembering different realities or timelines here. The year this happened did not 'change' for one of us. It's simply that one memory is accurate, the other is not. With no way to prove beyond a doubt which was which, we simply agreed to disagree and moved on.
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    All I know is that Dolly had braces. I am old enough to have watched that James Bond movie several times in the vhs days and on telly. Thats the one mandela effect that I am sure of.

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    The Manda Effect is quite convincing for me except that it does not exist in China. Though it increasingly raises interest in the Chinese internet, it is not seriously discussed because of the absence of "evidence". No literature has been found to differ from the memories, or poems, or ancient texts. No art or movies have differ from group memory.

    That said, there have been found quite a number of movie conversations that are classical and now slightly changed -- in Hong Kong. But Hong Kong culture is differentfrom the Chinese culture due to the 150 years of colonial rule. Could this Mandela phenomenon be culturally specific? Could it be manifactured by a switch of the digital struture? I would be interested to know if the effect is found in Germany or Russia. The Chinese culture is preserved not predominently by the internet, but by collections scattered everywhere. Hard copies are not easily altered.

    That said, there is a recent heated debate in China of a word change newly found in a classical text of Manfucius, a near contemprory of confuscius. Almost every one knows the words of the a famous sentence there. Those who argue it is real M-effect cite the text printed in a school text publication and in many digital images. However there are even more evidence the original is what remembered by 99% of the populuation, and many references support this. It appears that the strong and continuous Chinese culture does not allow this Time-line theory.

    I am quite convinced it is true, but the explanation may be other than a diversification of the time line. My evidence of its reality is only one: The smile of Mona Lisa as I recall was definitely not a smile. Her look was more like serene. I was puzzled why it was praised as a beautiful smile. My classmates talked about it and we agreed so.
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    The Manda Effect is quite convincing for me except that it does not exist in China.

    Mandela Effect. Convincing for you? To convince. To con. To con others or allow oneself to be conned.

    It's very easy to mess with people's perception of reality in this day and age. So many people are already mentally unstable. How much of that has been artificially, deliberately induced? First world nations, in particular, are being targeted because the people of those nations are the greatest threat to the globalists (nationalism, populism, individual rights and freedom). They (the globalist criminal syndicate) emptied the mental institutes and made insanity 'normal'. With the help of Big Pharma, they put these people on toxic psychiatric drugs, free to roam the streets with everyone else. Society has become so dysfunctional, they have even convinced sane people to take these toxic substances. Even if you don't fall for it, they make sure you will get toxins into your body by adding them to your food and water. They want you to question your reality, to be uncertain, to weaken you -- body, mind, and soul -- and make you susceptible to suggestion. Recently, they have even legalized illicit drugs to fast-track the societal decay. Mind manipulation (psychological attack on culture, tradition, sanity...) is particularly easy to achieve on the masses in a destabilized, dangerous (corrupt judicial system -- criminals are not prosecuted and are set free to re-offend), fear-driven environment like this, especially when you have control over educational institutions, news media (propaganda) and entertainment, and the ability to perform digital magic with the trillions of dollars at your disposal. It's all about the dissemination of manipulated information and the steering of society on multiple levels down a destructive path as you continuously poison, weaken, and reduce the population.






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    It appears that the strong and continuous Chinese culture does not allow this Time-line theory.

    In my opinion, the 'strong and continuous Chinese culture' does not allow for this 'Time-line' psychological operation perpetrated against its own population because the government there has already achieved its goal -- COMMUNISM. So, no, nothing needs to 'change' in order to con people into it. Mission already accomplished.

    I think the Mandela Effect is part of the Marxism effect -- effective tools used for attack, used as a means to an end: erosion and destruction of the existing cultural and traditional norms of a nation from within -- the erasure of its history, its foundation -- in order to conquer and defeat its people.
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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
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    I think the Mandela Effect is part of the Marxism effect -- effective tools used for attack, used as a means to an end: erosion and destruction of the existing cultural and traditional norms of a nation from within -- the erasure of its history, its foundation -- in order to conquer and defeat its people.
    The Mandela Effect is not a theory, it is a phenomenon. We personally experience it. Nothing political or communist about it. If it is mind control, I would be very interested to know how they control our memories. Besides, what point is it to create such an 'effect' when the minds of most people in the world, including most who think they are awakened, are successfully mind-controlled?

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    Default Re: The Mandela Effect: What does it mean??

    Here is a list of popular Mandela Effects.

    Most popular alternate memories

    51 or 52 United States — (Not Puerto Rico, which is a territory, or DC, which is a district.)

    Berenstain Bears or Berenstein Bears – Which do you recall? (Still one of the most popular topics at this website.)

    Billy Graham’s funeral on TV. As of January 2016, he’s still alive.

    Challenger shuttle explosion date? 1984, 1985, or 1986? Winter or another time of year? (Per Wikipedia, it was 28 Jan 1986.) Also, alternate memories about the Columbia.

    Colors – Chartreuse and more – Many people recall chartreuse as a pink or reddish color. It’s actually yellow-green.

    Curious George – Tail or no tail? (He’s never had a tail.) This is part of my article about dual memories.

    Ghost Hunters TV show — Some remember the earliest show name as TAPS, not Ghost Hunters. (Yes, we know the real-life team is called TAPS, and some of their gear has always said that.)

    Henry VIII portrait with a turkey leg in his hand — Many people clearly recall seeing it in history books, but there’s no record of it, now.

    Jif or Jiffy Peanut Butter – Jif peanut butter was never called “Jiffy,” in this timestream. (Not confused with Skippy brand, either.)

    Lindbergh baby – Never found? In this timestream, the 20-month old baby was found 12 May 1932.

    Mother Teresa – A saint before 2016? Several recall her canonization in the 1990s. They also recall her name spelled “Theresa.”

    Nelson Mandela’s death in prison, long before his actual death (in this timestream) on 5 December 2013.

    New Zealand’s location, relative to Australia.

    Red/blue – Pepsi logo changes, Chevron logo changes, and other color swaps… are they markers, cues, or signs to watch for?

    September 22nd or 23rd? – Some people recall events shifting from one of these dates to another. (The reaction to this article — on- and off-site — has been disproportionate to its apparent minor importance.)

    Sky – Changes in the sun, moon, stars, planets and their moons, constellation configurations and placement, and the color of the sky in general.

    Tiananmen Square – Memories of a young man being run over by a tank. (Might be Mandela Effect issue or simple media manipulation.)

    Agatha Christie – Never found after her 1926 disappearance? (In this timestream, she turned up 10 days later, but never explained. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agatha_...#Disappearance ) [Comments link 1 – link 2 – link 3.]

    Barbara or Barbra Streisand? In this reality, it’s Barbra. (“Barbara” is a common typo, but doesn’t explain all the alternate memories. Many people listed the alternative “Barbara” as one of several memories they have. Individual comment links include this, this, this, and this.)

    Betty White – Alive, well, and still feisty at age 93 in March 2015. Some recall her passing.

    Brian Dennehy – Alive and well, per Wikipedia, but a few of us have other memories.

    Charles Schulz or Schultz? (Creator of Peanuts comics and TV shows including Charlie Brown, Lucy, Snoopy, etc.) The correct spelling in this timestream is Schulz. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Schulz )

    Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer – Several people have (privately) reported a memory of his recent death. Wikipedia says still alive.

    Coen brothers or Cohen brothers? – American film producers & screenwriters. Note: Different from producers John Cohen (“Ice Age,” “Despicable Me,” etc.), Rob Cohen (“The Mummy,” “The Fast and the Furious,” etc.), and Charles S. Cohen (“Frozen River.”) Not the musicians, either. Comment link.

    David Soul – As of October 2015, he’s still alive, healthy, and starring in new productions.

    Dick Clark’s death… at least two of them. (Per Wikipedia, he died in April 2012.)

    Dick Van Patten – Died prior to his June 2015 death in this timestream?

    Dom DeLuise’s death. He died in 2009, but that’s not the only memory people have. 10 related comments, some at Comments 2.

    Don Rickles – Still alive in Oct 2015 (per Wikipedia) although some recall his earlier demise.

    Ernest Borgnine, death reported years before it happened in 2012.

    Forrest J. Ackerman – Died in 2008 in this timeline (per Wikipedia), but others recall alternate, earlier death dates.

    Fred Rogers (aka Mister Rogers) – Died in 2003, or later?

    Freddie Prinze — Several memories, mostly related to Freddie, Junior, and Sarah Michelle Gellar, and a child born around 2003 or 2004.

    Hal Holbrook – Born 1925, and still alive in January 2015. His late wife, Dixie Carter, passed away in 2010. Several remember Mr. Holbrook’s own death & memorials prior to 2010.

    Helen Thomas (1920 – 2013), former White House reporter – Some recall an alternate date when she passed.

    Henry Ford – Died from cerebral hemorrhage or something else?

    Houston family (Whitney’s) – Conflicting memories about her children, after Whitney’s death, but before Bobbi Kristina’s 2015 tragic death.

    Jack Palance — An earlier death date than what’s in the current timestream.

    Jayne Meadows Allen — Died 2015 or much earlier? (She was an actress, and widow of comedian Steve Allen.)

    Jerry Lewis – Remembered death late in 2013 or early 2014. Still alive in Oct 2014. (Different from Jerry Lee Lewis, the colorful singer/songwriter.)

    Jim Henson – Died of complications from a strep infection, or from cancer? (In this timestream, initially reported as walking pneumonia. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_He...ness_and_death )

    Jimmy Swaggart — Report dead, but still alive as of July 2012.

    John Denver’s death — When and where? In this reality, 12 Oct 1997 near Monterrey Bay, California.

    John Lennon — Date of death is 8 Dec 1980, but some have clear memories of a different date.

    John Lennon & Yoko Ono – The location of 1969 “bed-in for peace.” (If you remember this, note the location before checking Wikipedia for the details.)

    Jon Bon Jovi – Some recall a startling, mid-1990s lifestyle announcement.

    Kathie Lee Gifford or Kathy Lee Gifford? In this reality, it’s always been “Kathie.”

    Katy Perry – Memories of her using the name Kate, not Katy.

    Leonard DiCaprio – Won an Oscar before 2016? Some recall earlier nominations and awards, as well as his 2016 acceptance speech, but years earlier.

    Li Qi – Chinese comedian with a reported death, still alive in early 2014.

    Louie Anderson – Alive and well now, but his death (and therefore cancellation of his TV show) at some point in the past. (Not confused with John Candy and other comedians.)

    Muhammad Ali – 2009 death? Still alive (early 2015) per Wikipedia.

    Neil Armstrong died in 2013, not 2012? Also, some are sure he made a ‘Mr. Gorsky’ reference during his lunar voyage. (Latter debunked in this timestream by Snopes, but does anyone actually recall hearing it?)

    Patrick Swayze, his full recovery reported after his tragic death in this reality.

    Peter Fonda – He’s still alive. (Not confusing him with his dad, actor Henry Fonda, who died in 1982.)

    Peter Townsend or Peter Townshend — Spelling change? (One is a singer-songwriter for The Who. The other is an American drummer.)

    Reba McIntyre or Reba McEntire? – Decide how you remember it before visiting her official website or Wikipedia to see the real spelling.

    Richard Chamberlain – Did not die in the 1990s. Still alive (as of Oct 2015), and – related memory – James Franciscus was not his brother.

    Robert Crumb — Death reported, 1990s. Still alive (July 2015). Artist responsible for Fritz the Cat and the iconic Keep on Truckin’ graphic, etc.

    Robert Stack — Earlier death reports.

    Rod Serling or Rod Sterling? Some recall the latter spelling, not as a typo.

    Rodney King – Some have alternate memories of his death, including one during the infamous incident in 1991.

    Shirley Temple — Some recall her death long prior to 10 Feb 2014.

    Sinbad – Did he ever play a genie in a major movie? Did he ever play a genie, full stop?

    Terry Pratchett – According to some, he died shortly after the announcement of his illness (2013), instead of March 2015.

    Will Smith and Jada Pinkett – Divorced ~10 years ago? (2015: Still listed as a happy couple. He divorced a previous wife in 1995.)

    William Daniels (actor) – Did not die in the early 2000s. Still alive (<- Wikipedia link) in early 2015.

    Yogi Berra (athlete) – Died 22 Sep 2015, but some recall an earlier death.

    More events… when and where?

    9/11 – Did it happen on 9/11, as most people remember, or on 9/10, as some recall?

    Thanksgiving (USA) – The third or the fourth Thursday in November? (Since 1941, it’s always on the fourth Thursday.)

    Weather – Hurricane Katrina: April or August 2005, or another year altogether?

    Writers’ strike in Hollywood – 2007-2008 or some other year (21st century only)?

    More geography

    Geography — Locations and sizes of New Zealand. Locations of Australia, Honduras, Japan, Manchuria, and more.

    Adam’s Bridge (also Ram Setu, Rama Setu, Setubandhanam, and other names) – Some recall it fully above sea level in the mid-late 20th century, while historical records (in this timestream) say it was partially submerged — due to a cyclone — in the late 15th century. (ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam%27s_Bridge )

    Alaska – Coastline radically different.

    Arctica – Hasn’t existed for a very long time.

    Japan – Where do you recall it, in relation to China?

    Korea – N. Korea borders Russia? That’s what maps show.

    Madagascar – Location and general geography. Not just a map issue.

    Mongolia – Part of China or a separate country? And where is/was it?

    Sri Lanka location, due south of India, not southeast. (Also see ancient maps at this article about geography changes, in general.)

    Wales – East or west of England and Scotland? (It’s west. From London, take the M25 west to the M4, and follow the M4 into Wales.)

    More media (TV, films, books, magazines)

    Big (the movie) – Alternate ending. (Not confused with 13 Going on 30.)

    The Candidate, or The Campaign — One movie, one and a remake, two movies, or now three… and did the title change? (Solved, maybe: See the related HuffPost page. Compare the article title and the inset video clip title.)

    Carmen Sandiego (“Where in the World Is…”) – Some recall a yellow trench coat, long before the red one. Comment link.

    Cinderella – Some recall an alternate central character or characters.

    Cruella DeVille or De Vil? – It’s the latter, in this Disney’s 101 Dalmatians movie reference. [See comment.]

    Different Strokes or Diff’rent Strokes? – It’s the latter, though many recall otherwise and some TV listings support that.

    Duggars – Was the show (briefly) “21 Kids and Counting”?

    Forrest Gump – Was the most famous line “Life IS like a box of chocolates…” or “Life WAS like a box of chocolates…”? In this reality, it’s the latter. (However, both lines were used in connection with the movie, so this isn’t necessarily a Mandela Effect.)

    Fred Rogers’ song, “Won’t You Be My Neighbor” – Some recall “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.” In this reality, it’s “It’s a beautiful day in this neighborhood.”? (See http://www.neighborhoodarchive.com/m..._neighbor.html and https://youtu.be/zMUGJZrR9Jg.)

    Gremlins character (movie) – Spike or Stripe? The only reliable sources say it was always Stripe, not Spike.

    Hand gestures in movies – Do you recall different hand gestures in movies? For example, a more elaborate hand gesture by Antonio Banderas, with a candle, in Interview with the Vampire? See the YouTube clip from the movie, around the 2:03 point. I’m looking for very specific descriptions of the alternate gesture.

    Independence Day (movie) — Characters now missing from a major scene? (This has been reported privately, twice, and we’re looking for confirmation from others.)

    Interview with a Vampire, or Interview with the Vampire – Actually, both titles were used on published book, in this reality. So, this isn’t a clear Mandela Effect issue.

    It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown, and related topics – Did the Great Pumpkin appear near the end of the holiday special, or was it just Snoopy’s shadow? Was the cartoonist Charles Schultz or Charles Schulz? (In both cases, it was the latter in this reality.)

    Jurassic Park – Original movie: Some recall a now-missing scene.

    Justice League – Check the characters you’re remembering and see if one is missing.

    K-PAX (movie) – Starred Kevin Spacey or Nicholas Cage? (In this timestream, it’s Spacey.)

    Looney Tunes or Looney Toons? – Several conflicting memories.

    Married with Children – Some recall one character played by two different actors.

    M.A.S.H. (TV series) – Some recall the in-series death of Walter “Radar” O’Reilly. However, that wasn’t part of the story in this timestream.

    Mirror, Mirror – In “Snow White,” did the evil queen say “Mirror, mirror…” or “Magic mirror…”? (In Disney’s Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the Queen says, “Magic mirror.”)

    Mystery Science Theater — Variations of the numbers following show name (mostly 2000 or 3000, but a few recall 4000).

    Sex and the City – Some are sure it was “Sex in the City” when it first aired.

    Star Trek memories, including: Chakotay character killed, then returns — several episodes later — without much explanation. (I’ve talked about this — in person — with Robert Beltran, who played the character. He’s sure that version was never written or filmed.)

    Star Wars – Was the iconic line “Luke, I am your father” or “No, I am your father”? Also a missing scene. (Not just “deleted.”)

    Terminator (and other movie) variations, “remembered” before the deleted scenes were available on DVD. Alternate late scenes and endings reported, as well.

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (movie) – Different ending after initial release? Different title?

    X-Men – Some reports of alternate abilities for Professor X

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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
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    I think the Mandela Effect is part of the Marxism effect -- effective tools used for attack, used as a means to an end: erosion and destruction of the existing cultural and traditional norms of a nation from within -- the erasure of its history, its foundation -- in order to conquer and defeat its people.
    The Mandela Effect is not a theory, it is a phenomenon. We personally experience it. Nothing political or communist about it. If it is mind control, I would be very interested to know how they control our memories. Besides, what point is it to create such an 'effect' when the minds of most people in the world, including most who think they are awakened, are successfully mind-controlled?

    I didn't say the Mandela Effect was a theory. I said I think it's a psyop. Mind-control does not work on a certain percent of the population. That's our saving grace. There will always be those who can and will resist it and call it out.

    The whole point of the psyop is to mess with people's memories, their perception of reality. There's the power of suggestion, subliminals, repetitive messages etc. And, I would think they've got technology that purposefully affects/targets peoples minds as well: EMFs/wireless/microwave frequencies/5G, and so on. By the way, graphene oxide was found in the mRNA shots. If I recall correctly, graphene oxide is highly magnetic and self-assembles when exposed to strong electromagnetic fields. Essentially, you are filling the body -- including the brain -- with tiny antennae to amplify a signal.

    Other related subjects to research are hyperreality and predictive programming.

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    I didn't say the Mandela Effect was a theory. I said I think it's a psyop.
    I don't agree with that. Its impact is so low-level most have never heard of it. It's just a fad on a corner of reddit at this point. It's self-driven, and no one is 'orchestrating it' that I can see.

    As per the above list... all those celebrity deaths. I've members of my own family who wouldn't be sure, if asked, what my birthday is, let alone the year I was born! These are people I've known my entire life. And people squabble over the death-dates of people they've never met and only heard about once read out on the radio or evening news, and then upon finding out years later the "date of those deaths" are different in their memory jump to the Star Trek explanation of having shifted to a different timeline... They have no idea at all how the human memory works, and the fact that it is extremely prone to error!
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    Quote Posted by Pris (here)
    I didn't say the Mandela Effect was a theory. I said I think it's a psyop.
    I don't agree with that. Its impact is so low-level most have never heard of it. It's just a fad on a corner of reddit at this point. It's self-driven, and no one is 'orchestrating it' that I can see.

    As per the above list... all those celebrity deaths. I've members of my own family who wouldn't be sure, if asked, what my birthday is, let alone the year I was born! These are people I've known my entire life. And people squabble over the death-dates of people they've never met and only heard about once read out on the radio or evening news, and then upon finding out years later the "date of those deaths" are different in their memory jump to the Star Trek explanation of having shifted to a different timeline... They have no idea at all how the human memory works, and the fact that it is extremely prone to error!

    In this psyop war, I don't think anything is trivial. In my opinion, the so-called 'Mandela Effect' is not trivial. It helps to lay the ground work with all the other nonsense (New Ageism, aliens, timeline shifts, Flat Earth etc.) they've had people distracted with for decades. This hides the progress the globalists have been making with their agenda. For example, when you are experimenting on animals/livestock (e.g. cattle mutilations) and human beings (e.g. abductions, tagged with implants, impregnated) to test the effects of toxins you've released into the environment to, say, reduce fertility rates (reduce sperm counts, study embryos, increase birth defects, stillbirths etc.), inserting aliens into the mix is the perfect way to throw everyone off your trail while thwarting and making a mockery of those involved in any credible research that is being done to expose your Deep State activities, your crimes against humanity). Instead of having to eliminate people who get too close, you first try to con them, mislead them. You use them to spread disinfo which in turn, destroys their reputations. No wonder the term 'conspiracy theorist' that the CIA came up with to ridicule people who were close to the truth has been so effective. That label (constantly used by the globalist propaganda machine) makes a mockery of anyone with legitimate questions that may harm the globalist agenda. Anyway, all these psyops are like splinters in the mind of society. Definitely, each one has an impact.

    People have tragically underestimated the insidious nature in which the globalists have infiltrated and impacted all levels of society. Look where we are right now.

    Meantime, the globalists are constantly altering little things in books and movies, making the stories more 'woke', more 'diversified' using what they claim are the so-called 'marginalized groups' as the excuse. This is a Marxist tactic sliding in under the increasing socialism the globalists use as a cover. There's been so many different 'versions' of 'this and that', nobody can agree on anything. And, that's the whole point. People are meant to throw their hands up and say, "Whatever." Meantime, the globalists direct their puppets and mobs to melt down statues like the one of Robert E. Lee and, literally, get away with it.

    When Biden did his Red Speech, that wasn't meant for the "Left". The Fake News didn't cover it because the intended target was the "Right". They knew that speech would spread over alternative media. It was meant to anger people, divide people. The globalists are desperately attempting to start a 'believable' civil war. So far, they have failed despite their use of crisis actors, Deep State agent provocateurs, fake movements, and multiple false flag events.

    It all works in tandem.

    I do agree with you about the human memory. The globalists wouldn't be so successful in their reshaping of society if it wasn't for the fragility of human memory and the mind in general. They know it, they exploit it with every means necessary to break us (toxins, psyops...). They are constantly -- and I mean constantly -- gaslighting us. Many of us have figured this out. We're the ones sounding the alarm. Without us, the 'sleepers' would never wake up.

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    (I noticed the comments are switched off on that particular video they posted, how convenient. And, there's no way to determine how many dislikes it has because YouTube recently removed that feature so we can no longer see just how unpopular something is.)
    You can if you install the plugin.

    I'm not installing a YouTube plugin on my computer. Didn't need to use a plugin before to see down votes. Don't you question why they made it a plugin?

    Besides, with how controlled YouTube is by the globalists, they are probably tampering with the up/down votes on everything. And, where comments are shown, how many of those are fake? Nobody knows... (well, THEY know.)

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    I'm not installing a YouTube plugin on my computer. Didn't need to use a plugin before to see down votes. Don't you question why they made it a plugin?
    It's not 'from' youtube Pris, but an independent creator - to fight youtube. And it won't harm your computer. It's a tiny extension you add to run in the background of whatever browser you're using (Firefox, Edge, Chrome, Opera, Brave). It simply collects the ID of the youtube video you're watching and extrapolates the number of registered dislikes with its inbuilt API. It basically turns back on what youtube turned off by default.

    It's a tool designed by, and for, truthers.

    Because we all know why youtube disabled dislikes. They wanted to hide the massive ratios coming in against the liberal media complex, being the 'official' narrative of mainstream news, and the puppet media sites who do their dirty work.

    Hiding the dislikes was itself a psyop. This plugin is the antidote.
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    I'm not installing a YouTube plugin on my computer. Didn't need to use a plugin before to see down votes. Don't you question why they made it a plugin?
    It's not 'from' youtube Pris, but an independent creator - to fight youtube. And it won't harm your computer. It's a tiny extension you add to run in the background of whatever browser you're using (Firefox, Edge, Chrome, Opera, Brave). It simply collects the ID of the youtube video you're watching and extrapolates the number of registered dislikes with its inbuilt API. It basically turns back on what youtube turned off by default.

    It's a tool designed by, and for, truthers.

    Because we all know why youtube disabled dislikes. They wanted to hide the massive ratios coming in against the liberal media complex, being the 'official' narrative of mainstream news, and the puppet media sites who do their dirty work.

    Hiding the dislikes was itself a psyop. This plugin is the antidote.

    Okay... possibly. An 'antidote' you say... I'm not sure there can be an antidote for viewing YouTube other than NOT viewing YouTube. It doesn't change the fact that likes and dislikes are tampered with on that site.

    We know there are armies of fake accounts and bot accounts on globalist controlled social media platforms to steer people's perception on any given video/subject. Data is faked. How accurate are subscriber counts? People would often complain about repeatedly being 'mysteriously' unsubscribed from certain people (posting political/health content not supporting the globalist narrative) they had subscribed to.

    Sure, hiding the dislikes was a psyop. And, just like polls, fakery abounds. Whatever they're showing us - whatever they control - is suspect.

    The other day, I did find a copy of that 'boy genius' on Bitchute. So far it's got 12 thumbs down to 6 thumbs up. That's an indicator lol. And, it hasn't even been up for a year.

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    It doesn't change the fact that likes and dislikes are tampered with on that site.
    Oh for sure. Globalist propaganda like you say will be falsely inflated with likes (from bot accounts), but the same isn't been done with dislikes that I can see; they are essentially disabled now anyway, unless you hack them with the plugin.

    Subscriptions are also meddled with, there's no doubt about that. Many really popular channels have zero growth any more - their subscriber counts get frozen. I personally haven't experienced being mysteriously unsubscribed from a channel though, but it is going on.
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    It doesn't change the fact that likes and dislikes are tampered with on that site.
    Oh for sure. Globalist propaganda like you say will be falsely inflated with likes (from bot accounts), but the same isn't been done with dislikes that I can see; they are essentially disabled now anyway, unless you hack them with the plugin.

    Right. Sure. 'Kay.


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    It doesn't change the fact that likes and dislikes are tampered with on that site.
    Oh for sure. Globalist propaganda like you say will be falsely inflated with likes (from bot accounts), but the same isn't been done with dislikes that I can see; they are essentially disabled now anyway, unless you hack them with the plugin.

    Right. Sure. 'Kay.



    Well I've not seen it happening, and I've been watching for it. Take conservative pundits for example, those who get maligned by 'mainstream' outlets. They boast excellent numbers. Videos calling out the trans op for example, or Biden gaffes, or Disney cultural programming -- all of that crap, these videos get huuuuge like-to-dislike ratios. If youtube were fudging numbers trying to make such content seem less popular than it really is, it would be obvious, and quite impossible to hide. Which is why they don't do it.
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    Could there actually have been two different timelines?

    Sorry if this has been stated before. Have not read all the posts.
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    The above comment is exactly the reason why I wonder why I even bother posting at all in threads like this.

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    The above comment is exactly the reason why I wonder why I even bother posting at all in threads like this.
    You and me...
    We are very similar.
    We are a$$holes.
    People love us and hate us.

    I know you because I know myself.

    With that being said,,,, let me engage you.

    Do you know why liberals piss you off???

    I'll honestly welcome your reply on this...
    But I'm gonna answer for you.

    Liberals piss you of because they are cowards.
    They refuse to acknowledge the reality of this world and as such they live in a fantasy world.

    I'm not saying the Mandela Effect is real.
    But,,,,

    I'm saying you're to much of a coward to hear the situation out and understand it for what it is.
    You think you have the world figured out and you're done hearing what anyone else has to say.
    That's why you come off like a dismissive, arrogant a-hole.
    Now honest to God I love you.
    You're honest salt of the earth good people.
    But you're also a dismissive a-hole when you are out of your depth.
    And until you ask the right questions and come down off you're pedestal you will never have a clue as to what you are talking about.
    And further it just shows you are out of you're depth.

    You need to ask a few questions before stomping into a thread like a troll acting like you know everything.

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    The above comment is exactly the reason why I wonder why I even bother posting at all in threads like this.
    You and me...
    We are very similar.
    We are a$$holes.
    People love us and hate us.

    I know you because I know myself.

    With that being said,,,, let me engage you.

    Do you know why liberals piss you off???

    I'll honestly welcome your reply on this...
    But I'm gonna answer for you.

    Liberals piss you of because they are cowards.
    They refuse to acknowledge the reality of this world and as such they live in a fantasy world.

    I'm not saying the Mandela Effect is real.
    But,,,,

    I'm saying you're to much of a coward to hear the situation out and understand it for what it is.
    You think you have the world figured out and you're done hearing what anyone else has to say.
    That's why you come off like a dismissive, arrogant a-hole.
    Now honest to God I love you.
    You're honest salt of the earth good people.
    But you're also a dismissive a-hole when you are out of your depth.
    And until you ask the right questions and come down off you're pedestal you will never have a clue as to what you are talking about.
    And further it just shows you are out of you're depth.

    You need to ask a few questions before stomping into a thread like a troll acting like you know everything.

    I'm literally rolling on the floor laughing my ass off at this. Here, I'll even give you the emoticon! I knew I'd likely get some strong reaction for my comment and I've not been disappointed.

    You may not know this, but I'm not entirely new to this subject.

    I'm... fond of you, too, DNA. BUT, I'm sticking to my guns on this one. You may think I'm "out of my depth" on this, but I've come to a logical, rational conclusion FOR MYSELF and UNTIL AND UNLESS I discover something else that makes even more sense TO ME, I'm sticking to what I said.

    A$$hole? Yes, I'm one of the biggest, but I mean well and always have. And, I thank you for the fine acknowledgement. You're not so bad yourself.

    Cheers!



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