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    Bill, is there anywhere I could watch this "alien interrogation"? What I can only find on this is a silent movie, 3min long, with someone's voice over telling me what to understand from what is otherwise a crappy video image. Thank you.

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    Bill, is there anywhere I could watch this "alien interrogation"? What I can only find on this is a silent movie, 3min long, with someone's voice over telling me what to understand from what is otherwise a crappy video image. Thank you.
    I believe this was the original video that was released. (This is the opening post of the thread titled The Area 51 'Alien Interview' video. The disguised voice is that of the whistleblower named 'Victor'.)


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    Bill, is there anywhere I could watch this "alien interrogation"? What I can only find on this is a silent movie, 3min long, with someone's voice over telling me what to understand from what is otherwise a crappy video image. Thank you.
    Here is a recent interview in 2 parts, with Jon Stewart on Coast to Coast from this past Dec 30th. He has taken this Alien interview under his wing for research and has done an impressive job.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cw08d...v11mcfzfq&dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/umwy9...hpt5qt0zy&dl=0

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    Just announced today: A live interview tonight at 7 UK time with another interview with Dr Eamonn Ansbro

    Premieres Jul 13 at 7pm GMT London time, 2023

    UAPS: An Automated Control System Monitoring Our Planet? - SETI Astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro | ICER

    Is Earth under observation by non-human surveillance probes? This hypothesis is not unique to SETI astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro.
    In March 2023, AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick and Harvard astrophysicist Dr. Avi Loeb jointly published a scientific paper in which they hypothesized, among other things, that a mothership could approach Earth and release several small probes into the atmosphere. But what is considered debatable nowadays was considered taboo 20 years ago.

    SETI astronomer Dr. Eamonn Ansbro of Ireland's Kingsland Observatory and Monte de las Animas Observatory, Spain, had already published a very similar hypothesis in July 2001. This hypothesis was met with resistance from the SETI community. According to his theory, super spacecraft move in the upper stratosphere or even farther from the Earth's surface, releasing special surveillance drones. These drones move in 660 orbits around the Earth, and where they intersect, UFO sightings are more frequent. "We have tested the theory over the years in 27 locations in eight countries, and it has been 80 percent accurate," Dr. Ansbro told Robert Fleischer. So what's up with this theory? If it proves to be true, it would be of paramount importance to humanity....

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    • New UFO Wreckage Analysis Confirms Alien Origin! Why Is The Media Ignoring This?

    Last month, Avi Loeb released a complete analysis of the debris found at the bottom of the Pacific last year! The spherules are definitely not terrestrial, definitely not from this Solar System, and appear to be artificial. And the media is ignoring the results.
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Bill, is there anywhere I could watch this "alien interrogation"? What I can only find on this is a silent movie, 3min long, with someone's voice over telling me what to understand from what is otherwise a crappy video image. Thank you.
    I believe this was the original video that was released. (This is the opening post of the thread titled The Area 51 'Alien Interview' video. The disguised voice is that of the whistleblower named 'Victor'.)

    So the alien is behind glass to protect it from human bugs and sh*t , yet the Drs come in with bare arms and stuff and not wearing a bio hazard suit.
    The more people i met, the more i liked my dog.

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    Eric Weinstein On UFOs - “There Is Way More To This Story Than We Know”
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    "Chris Williamson and Eric Weinstein discuss the latest information leaks on UFOs. What does Eric Weinstein think the UFO phenomenon is? Why does Eric Weinstein believe there is more than what is being told to the public? Has the United States lost control of its airspace according to Eric Weinstein? "
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    In response to the Eric Weinstein video that for some reason I find a bit irritating, i am going to post this UFO I witnessed. im not sure if I ever posted it but to this day I have not had a rational explanation for it. Maybe someone here can give their opinion.

    I was sitting out at twilight in my town with i phone in hand. I was on a ufo hunt state of mind that summer and brought a camera almost everywhere i went.

    Sitting there I look up and noticed a darkish smudge in the sky, very small, but it appeared and disappeared in very short time. i managed 4 pics. I had no indication it was anything and it was at a distance to far to tell.

    when I got home , I downloaded the pics and this is what It showed.. The first big pic shows the full distance scale shot with an almost imperceptible black spot towards the middle

    the other pics are the enlargements of it. It did not fly in or out, but rather appeared and disappeared.

    This is a symmetrical object. I also showed this to an intelligence friend some may know who I am referring to. He was quite perplexed by it.
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    so its not a bird, a plane, a helicopter, a balloon, its way too far away to be a bug and so on.

    its a U F O. and I dont need to know all the physics or sciences mr Weinstein mentioned to have a discussion about it

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    Eric Weinstein On UFOs - “There Is Way More To This Story Than We Know”
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    "Chris Williamson and Eric Weinstein discuss the latest information leaks on UFOs. What does Eric Weinstein think the UFO phenomenon is? Why does Eric Weinstein believe there is more than what is being told to the public? Has the United States lost control of its airspace according to Eric Weinstein? "
    Very clearly, from everything he says in this video, Eric Weinstein really doesn't know much about the topic. Most Avalon members understand far more, even just from information on public record.

    To give him credit, he's trying to look at it all. But he's behind the curve, has a lot to catch up on, and is simply expressing his confusion.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 21st February 2024 at 15:07.

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    Eric Weinstein On UFOs - “There Is Way More To This Story Than We Know”
    (13:33)
    "Chris Williamson and Eric Weinstein discuss the latest information leaks on UFOs. What does Eric Weinstein think the UFO phenomenon is? Why does Eric Weinstein believe there is more than what is being told to the public? Has the United States lost control of its airspace according to Eric Weinstein? "
    Very clearly, from everything he says in this video, Eric Weinstein really doesn't know much about the topic. Most Avalon members understand far more, even just from information on public record.

    To give him credit, he's trying to look at it all. But he's behind the curve, has a lot to catch up on, and is simply expressing his confusion.

    Yep. It's a little aggravating listening to Eric Weinstein talk about UFO's. You don't get to where he is in life without cultivating some form of know-it-all'ism, so I try very hard not to hold that against him. He does far more good than anything else, but it wasn't long ago when he asserted that - quite condescendingly actually - there were no such thing as UFO's

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    While it may be entirely possible that many have considered the pending parallels between any form of disclosure, and the rapid advancements in AI, I thought I’d at least give you my perspective.

    I use various forms of AI everyday, and spend a considerable amount of time reading up on the latest advances in this area. Specifically within the realm of visual, generative AI.

    In the minds of the general public, the frightening prospects of AI are many, but especially evident from recent news (and advancing rapidly) is artificially generated imagery, cloneable AI voice technology,  and deep fake video.

    These technologies will either give the USG a new level of plausible deniability in the event there is new witnesses, whistleblowers, video, etc. essentially rendering these questionable, or they will be the very tools employed to begin a false flag narrative. And if there is any form of a planned disclosure, it will draw the same skepticism. The proverbial rolling out of an ET body will be seen as a deep fake, AI generated image, or CGI.

    My point is that this rapidly developing tech is very real and concerning. And I believe it will be solid (in the minds of the general public) within a year. Guaranteed! And it will be used as a scapegoat to otherwise authentic information.

    Soon we will witness everything unusual drawn into question, rendering unescapable confusion in the general public. I consider this a significant factor in the future of all news mediums. ...something to consider.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
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    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    Eric Weinstein On UFOs - “There Is Way More To This Story Than We Know”
    (13:33)
    "Chris Williamson and Eric Weinstein discuss the latest information leaks on UFOs. What does Eric Weinstein think the UFO phenomenon is? Why does Eric Weinstein believe there is more than what is being told to the public? Has the United States lost control of its airspace according to Eric Weinstein? "
    Very clearly, from everything he says in this video, Eric Weinstein really doesn't know much about the topic. Most Avalon members understand far more, even just from information on public record.

    To give him credit, he's trying to look at it all. But he's behind the curve, has a lot to catch up on, and is simply expressing his confusion.
    Yep. It's a little aggravating listening to Eric Weinstein talk about UFO's. You don't get to where he is in life without cultivating some form of know-it-all'ism, so I try very hard not to hold that against him. He does far more good than anything else, but it wasn't long ago when he asserted that - quite condescendingly actually - there were no such thing as UFO's


    To be fair to Eric Weinstein, the video is a short clip of a larger interview with Chris Williamson which is about 3 hours long (linked below for completeness) and although the clip shown wasn't strictly taken out of context, it didn't give the whole picture.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJxBnSyH0T4&t=3628s

    Firstly, there’s no doubt that he has a brilliant mind and has a PhD in mathematical physics from Harvard to back it up. My guess is that he's simply never seen a UFO and as seeing is believing he therefore doubts their existence and cannot work it out mathematically. (My own maths ability is crap but I remember reading somewhere that if something doesn’t work out mathematically then it remains unproven.)

    Further along in the main 3 hour interview with Chris Williamson (I say interview but it’s more of a chat really with ideas on both sides), Weinstein intimates that there’s a “physics hierarchy” over which nobody can go. He named Ed Witten as THE top physicist whose word is law and cannot be challenged. 3 hours is a long time to listen to a YT video, so here’s a clip from another fairly recent conversation Eric Weinstein had with Joe Rogan which goes into more detail about the “impenetrable Club of Physicists” (my words, not his).

    I’m just thinking that if what he says is true, ie, that they're working on a limited set of maths/theories, they'll never get to the bottom of anything, let alone get the mathematical proof of the existence of UFOs, where they come from and how they got here. But maybe the String Theory wall is just a front and the top physicists are secretly working on a different theory altogether behind the scenes?

    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    He named Ed Witten as THE top physicist whose word is law and cannot be challenged. 3 hours is a long time to listen to a YT video, so here’s a clip from another fairly recent conversation Eric Weinstein had with Joe Rogan which goes into more detail about the “impenetrable Club of Physicists” (my words, not his).
    Yes, fully understood. The issue here is that Ed Witten (and his colleagues in the "impenetrable club") didn't make the cut.

    The most brilliant physicists all work in black projects, never publish their work, and know and understand a great deal more than Ed Witten, Eric Weinstein, or any other names we all know publicly. I met one of them personally 20 years ago and talked with him at length. Do see this very interesting post of mine from 2015.

    What household-name physicists may say in YouTube presentations (or anywhere else) really doesn't count for a thing.

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    He named Ed Witten as THE top physicist whose word is law and cannot be challenged. 3 hours is a long time to listen to a YT video, so here’s a clip from another fairly recent conversation Eric Weinstein had with Joe Rogan which goes into more detail about the “impenetrable Club of Physicists” (my words, not his).
    Yes, fully understood. The issue here is that Ed Witten (and his colleagues in the "impenetrable club") didn't make the cut.

    The most brilliant physicists all work in black projects, never publish their work, and know and understand a great deal more than Ed Witten, Eric Weinstein, or any other names we all know publicly. I met one of them personally 20 years ago and talked with him at length. Do see this very interesting post of mine from 2015.

    What household-name physicists may say in YouTube presentations (or anywhere else) really doesn't count for a thing.
    Wow that was amazing and I never knew that about household-name physicists (except Michio Kaku maybe). Is there anything further you can add to the post, which has the potential for many questions. I could do with the tool that's the size of a cigarette packet for sure, which is now leading to a connection with something similar able to move pyramids. I may not have the math but I do have the imagination
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    Bill, Miller,

    This discussion fits perfectly with my paper I wrote last month on a very intriguing project. The late Bob Oechsler was involved with in 1990, a portion of which revealed we have an antigravity room.

    The AI artwork was created by me to help facilitate a what-if scenario. Also, I contacted Bob’s son, who remembers his father‘s story about this project.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nsj18...cul91yvga&dl=0

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    Default Re: U.S. Has "Retrieved Craft" - Official

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    He named Ed Witten as THE top physicist whose word is law and cannot be challenged. 3 hours is a long time to listen to a YT video, so here’s a clip from another fairly recent conversation Eric Weinstein had with Joe Rogan which goes into more detail about the “impenetrable Club of Physicists” (my words, not his).
    Yes, fully understood. The issue here is that Ed Witten (and his colleagues in the "impenetrable club") didn't make the cut.

    The most brilliant physicists all work in black projects, never publish their work, and know and understand a great deal more than Ed Witten, Eric Weinstein, or any other names we all know publicly. I met one of them personally 20 years ago and talked with him at length. Do see this very interesting post of mine from 2015.

    What household-name physicists may say in YouTube presentations (or anywhere else) really doesn't count for a thing.
    Erik Weinstein's point about Ed Witten is that he is trying to get the entire world to focus on string theory, a field that has not born any fruit or had any benefits for the world. Weinstein also talks a lot about Harvard (and other academic institutions) and how it seems to be a gate keeper of knowledge, not encouraging research in certain areas. Harvard first creates the narrative, and than looks for the academics and researchers whose work will back it up, and fires smart people whose theory does not give them the outcome they want.

    On one level, Weinstein sounds very much like a conventional academic, but if you listen closely, he is very conspiratorial. You hears this too when he is asked about Jeffrey Epstein going to meet Stephen Hawking. His point is that of course whatever it is that is behind Epstein would be interested in Physics because that is the key to mastering the universe. He also has some good points about how we live in a "manipulated reality."

    I highly recommend the entire interview. (Thanks for recommending it Miller!)

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    This discussion fits perfectly with my paper I wrote last month on a very intriguing project. The late Bob Oechsler was involved with in 1990, a portion of which revealed we have an antigravity room.
    Can you remember which ufologist/researcher first broke the Oechsler story? I first read about the anti-grav room years ago (over thirty), and when I saw your paper a month ago I went searching for the book/magazine/newsletter I had read it in (was sure Tim Good was behind it) but I could not find it anywhere and it's got me confused.

    To add, Grusch stated anti-gravity was first cracked by scientists in 1953. If true, this would mark the beginning of the secret space program. It's shocking if you think about it: anti-gravity technology, something that would change the world in so many ways, may have been in our possession for 70 years.
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    To add, Grusch stated anti-gravity was first cracked by scientists in 1953.
    Yes, I feel sure that this is the case. Dr Steven Greer has always stated exactly the same thing (1954, he says), and in more than one excellent and detailed video on Richard Dolan's YT channel researcher Michael Schratt has also argued convincingly, citing archived mainstream newspaper reports, that antigravity was cracked in 1954.

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    To add, Grusch stated anti-gravity was first cracked by scientists in 1953.
    Yes, I feel sure that this is the case. Dr Steven Greer has always stated exactly the same thing (1954, he says), and in more than one excellent and detailed video on Richard Dolan's YT channel researcher Michael Schratt has also argued convincingly, citing archived mainstream newspaper reports, that antigravity was cracked in 1954.
    My mistake! I meant Greer, not Grusch. It was Dr. Greer who said anti-grav was discovered at this time (successfully back-engineered).
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    Quote Posted by p+52 (here)
    This discussion fits perfectly with my paper I wrote last month on a very intriguing project. The late Bob Oechsler was involved with in 1990, a portion of which revealed we have an antigravity room.
    Can you remember which ufologist/researcher first broke the Oechsler story? I first read about the anti-grav room years ago (over thirty), and when I saw your paper a month ago I went searching for the book/magazine/newsletter I had read it in (was sure Tim Good was behind it) but I could not find it anywhere and it's got me confused.[/B].
    Actually, you guessed right, from Timothy Goods book Alien Contact. Personally, I found out about it from a lecture from Bill Hamilton around 1991 which I have recorded.

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