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    Several comments on X are comparing the ship to the one in the Netflix movie Leave the World Behind that was produced by the Obamas.


    https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1772689581533524059



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    I’m on an IPad and a techno lightweight. So, I am not able at this time to give you the link or embed the video, but, if you want to know what happened, go to the March 26, 2024 edition of Stephen K Bannon’s Warroom and watch Laura Logan’s presentation of what caused that ship to turn abruptly and hit one of only two major weight-bearing pillions on the bridge, that if even one is undermined/damaged, would cause that highly critical and essential bridge—from an economic and supply chain standpoint—to collapse. Why? Why now? Why there? What’s else is going on? Think cyber attack. And so on.
    Here it is:

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...e/id1485351658

    The section about the bridge incident starts at 16:15, and Lara Logan comes in at 31:00.
    ~~~

    Apologies, here's the video. The timestamps are a little different, and here Lara comes on at 26:00. She makes a strong case that this was a cyber attack, and states she has learned from multiple sources in US intel that this is indeed what happened.

    Ms. Logan sounds quite convincing considering all the crazy things that are going on in the world right now, but I'm not quite convinced this is a well-planned out infrastructure strike. It's VERY possible that this was just an accident.
    It may take 5 years to rebuild this bridge, but I'm not convinced this completely stalls out all the commerce and transportation. Huge crews can probably have the channel cleared at least for ships to pass thru within a few months or less and transportation on highways can continue with a rather long and frustrating detour, but I don't see anything other than a huge hiccup in commerce right now.
    This is an extremely serious disaster when it comes to an economic "hiccup" but in my eyes it is somewhat minor compared to the bigger picture of things.
    As I said in an earlier post, I'd be way more concerned if we see more things like this in the next 24 to 72 hours or so.
    I may be wrong about this but right now I'm just thinking it's an accident that this country doesn't need right now. I would think that if "they" were really wanting to seriously cripple our economy/infrastructure worse than they already have, "they" would pull off a series of events.....time will tell.
    If we see a series of events like this bridge thing in the very near future, well, we are entering a new phase in this evil game "they" are playing.
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    That does seem to be too many coincidences, unless perhaps Obama's handlers were privy to a remote viewing session of a naturally caused incident, and used it to create fear porn. The evidence of what the Sun was doing at that time as a possible cause of the incident is pretty convincing too.
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    Has anyone seen an interview with the crew of the vessel? What are they saying?

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Also see: Very Concerning Solar Storm Effect - Possible Barge Impact

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    Very Concerning Solar Storm Effect - Possible Barge Impact
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    (Many current disastrous events such as the Baltimore bridge collapse may be caused at least in part by what is going on now with the Sun, due to the Earth's diminishing protective magnetic field and ozone layer, part of the regular 12,000 solar cycles, one of which is ongoing now. Though it may be increasingly difficult to differentiate natural events from those being deliberately caused.
    See Ben Davidson's remarks from today's update

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    And here's a very interesting tweet. Watch the short video carefully. The lights on the vessel all go out, then come on again, and then it appears to alter course to steer straight into the bridge column.
    I read the very intelligent discussion re. The ship in the comments section of this video. One point raised is that the smoke billowing out of the ship exhaust indicates that the crew slammed in it into reverse and hit the throttle as hard as possible to avoid collision. There are a bunch of disageements on wether the bow thrusters could have have had any sudden impact on changing course or if the anker had been launched creating jolts.
    Also mentioned is that these type vessels are running mostly on auto pilot so could ne affected by solar driven gps issues and could be hacked too

    There are probably more comments now 10 hrs later..

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    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    Has anyone seen an interview with the crew of the vessel? What are they saying?
    Not ship crew.

    Here's some audio recording snippets of the police or coast guard. It doesn't reveal much, other than that the ship seems to have reported that it had lost steering control.

    https://t.me/FENFreeEagleNetworkNews/31958


    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
    BBC

    The Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore, where the Dali was flagged, said the ship's certificates covering its structural integrity and the functionality of its equipment were valid at the time of the incident.

    It also said the ship had passed two separate foreign port state inspections in June and September 2023.

    Synergy Marine Group, which manages the Dali, said there were 22 people on the ship, including an all-Indian crew and two US harbour pilots, but no reports of any injuries.

    It added that it was "fully co-operating" with federal agencies.

    ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    https://t.me/HammerTimeQNews/28530


    As Dr David Clements showed in his film "Let My People Go", when the big agencies adopt these kinds of things, e.g. making the election systems a part of the national infrastructure (by Obama executive order), it allows 'global' interference of the entire system. In our language, that means high level crookery can reach right in and do whatever it wants.
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    The lady who recently drowned in her Tesla last month, Angela Chao, is named as the CEO of the company which owns this ship.

    Angela Chao: Shipping billionaire intoxicated when she drowned in Tesla, police report shows
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    Quote Posted by pabranno (here)
    I’m not seeing any kind of water movement or wake in that video. Also seems a bit too agile a turn for a large boat to make at that speed/distance. Can someone clarify for me?

    Pamela
    In this scenario it is likely that an anchor was dropped. If so, when the engines came back on a radical repositioning of the ship can occur and it very well may not be in a desired direction. But an experienced ships master should be well aware of that BUT may not be able to respond quickly enough in a no power crisis.

    I am a bitmore interested why Biden chose to fully fund reconstruction, is it becuase this is an act of terrorism or war.

    Insurance does not fund these incidents....

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    I’ve watched video, looked a still shots of the ship with the debris from the bridge laying on it and watched a video of the ship supposedly hitting one if the major weight bearing pilings upon which the bridge sat.

    I have to say that they are messing with our minds again.

    The impression we are given and what we are being told to believe is that the ship struck the piling head on. However, at least one of the videos floating around out there, including by the MSM, clearly shows that the ship did not hit the piling straight on. Rather the ship passes the piling and just as the tail end of it is about to pass a squib at the base of the piling near the water line appears and the bridge begins to collapse. I do not see the ship hit the piling. It may have brushed the piling but even that is debatable.

    As usual, things do not add up in the way that supports what we are being told.

    From the still photos I’ve seen the bridge debris is on the front of the ship. How can that be? Given that the front of the ship, indeed nearly all of the ship, had passed the piling any debris would have to be in the rear of the ship, because all but the rear of the ship had passed by the piling.

    Just wondering out loud. For what it’s worth.
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    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/...663384593?s=20



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    Here is the police dispatch from before and after the bridge collapse, as first reported by
    @DCNewsLive

    Mayday calls were received by first responders, they were aware the ship had lost steering, and stopped incoming traffic from getting onto the bridge.

    Reportedly, no civilian vehicles were on the bridge at the time of collapse. There were 8 workers filling potholes on the bridge at the time of collapse, 2 survived, 6 are unaccounted for and presumed dead.

    This means that if this was a terror attack meant to kill people, it was not very effective. What kind of terrorist warns first responders to save civilians?

    If the terror attack was meant to cripple American infrastructure and shipping, I95 and I895 have been implemented as alternate land routes, the port will be able to operate after the way is cleared, and supply chains have already begun diverting transportation through other ports until the Baltimore port is viable again.

    GM and Ford have both said this will have “minimal impact” on their operations and have already deployed contingencies.

    I know you heard lots of doom-mongering today about how this is going to cripple the United States economy, but the that’s simply not true at all. This isolated incident will be an inconvenience, but the machine will keep churning. If we see a trend of accidents like this, then I might start to worry.

    If you think this ship was hacked, and the bridge was taken out intentionally… then this attack was horribly executed and didn’t accomplish much.


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    I think the bridge went down way to easily.
    I've seen a few clues & calling cards , some have been mentioned earlier. The numbers guys are calling foul play as well. But mainly it just looks like a controlled demolition to me .
    People are saying they can see explosions & I've just come across this video that does just that.
    I took a couple of screenshots of one of the alleged explosions
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    Quote Posted by Seeclearly (here)
    I think the bridge went down way to easily.
    I've seen a few clues & calling cards , some have been mentioned earlier. The numbers guys are calling foul play as well. But mainly it just looks like a controlled demolition to me .
    People are saying they can see explosions & I've just come across this video that does just that.
    I took a couple of screenshots of one of the alleged explosions
    51 secs.
    That would explain why the mayor of Baltimore want's people to stop showing the video of the event. There could be shape charge evidence on the steel like at ground zero in 9/11.

    mediaite The comment is at 1:57 in the video in the link.
    Quote Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott said he wanted to be the first to ask CNN and other networks to “stop showing the video” of the Key Bridge disaster “over and over” as families await word of their loved ones.
    Here's a possible prediction from a The Simpsons. At 0:38 into the video it shows RE-DIAL on Bart's cell phone. That's an anagram for the ship's name Dali/Aldi.
    Video description:
    Quote Simpsons predicting Francis Scott Key bridge collapse in Maryland, Baltimore? Two different episodes with bridge collapses, one talking about a doomsday device and another involving a comet while the devil comet or Dragon comet is coming into view.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/...663384593?s=20

    @WarClandestine
    Here is the police dispatch from before and after the bridge collapse, as first reported by
    @DCNewsLive

    Mayday calls were received by first responders, they were aware the ship had lost steering, and stopped incoming traffic from getting onto the bridge.

    Reportedly, no civilian vehicles were on the bridge at the time of collapse. There were 8 workers filling potholes on the bridge at the time of collapse, 2 survived, 6 are unaccounted for and presumed dead.

    This means that if this was a terror attack meant to kill people, it was not very effective. What kind of terrorist warns first responders to save civilians?

    If the terror attack was meant to cripple American infrastructure and shipping, I95 and I895 have been implemented as alternate land routes, the port will be able to operate after the way is cleared, and supply chains have already begun diverting transportation through other ports until the Baltimore port is viable again.

    GM and Ford have both said this will have “minimal impact” on their operations and have already deployed contingencies.

    I know you heard lots of doom-mongering today about how this is going to cripple the United States economy, but the that’s simply not true at all. This isolated incident will be an inconvenience, but the machine will keep churning. If we see a trend of accidents like this, then I might start to worry.

    If you think this ship was hacked, and the bridge was taken out intentionally… then this attack was horribly executed and didn’t accomplish much.
    I agree, it's just a terrible accident in my opinion. Yet, a great distraction from the more serious issues facing this nation....like the 10 million plus invaders that are mostly young males that have illegally entered this country in the last few years. These invaders are more of a stress on our economy and society than this port bridge falling into the water.
    There are also several other more dangerous and potentially catastrophic issues happening right now....
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    Default Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    When a ship is entering or leaving port a professional called the Harbour Pilot comes on board as he knows the safest and best way to transit in and out of port. He is essentially in charge like the Captain of the ship for the transit. When I was stationed on a warship, same thing occurs there also. They come on board, make the safest transit and leave the vessel afterwards.

    The initial reports indicated loss of electricity [generators], loss of main engines, loss of steering gears. One of the Harbour Pilots [I think there were 2] ordered to restore main engines and the Captain was unable to get engineering to respond accordingly. They tried and failed.

    It is my understanding that the Pilot ordered to drop an anchor also but this action obviously failed.

    Sometimes things in life just go wrong no matter what you do or what could have been done. There is nothing in the main stream about foul play at least over here on the Emerald Isle and the incident dominated the news here all day yester-day.

    When you consider transportation and all of the things that could go wrong, there are millions of safe miles of transit on land, at sea, and in flight.

    All I'm saying is accidents like this are pretty rare and not everything is a conspiracy.
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    Default Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    Did I see someone else in this thread say this guy has only been the Mayor for a few days ?

    I wonder who the police chief is and the Port authority chief.


    https://t.me/UnityNewsNetwork/17308



    Executive Director



    Mr. Jonathan Daniels​


    Jonathan Daniels was named as executive director of the Maryland Port Administration (MPA) by Maryland Transportation Secretary Paul J. Wiedefeld on December 20, 2023 following an extensive national recruitment process that included a high-level executive search committee and nationally recognized maritime executive search firm. Mr. Daniels came to Maryland after serving as chief executive officer and port director since 2020 at Port Everglades in Broward County, Florida and has more than 30 years of port and economic development experience.

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    Police Commissioner Richard Worley



    He was confirmed on Oct. 2, 2023, and sworn in on Oct. 5, 2023. He joined the Baltimore Police Department in 1998 as a Police Officer Trainee.


    continued . . .


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    Answer me these . . .

    Where's the Pilot Boat ?

    Where's the Tug Boats ?

    Where's the Warning Horn Hoots ?

    What happened last night was abnormal. If local officials are not saying so, they are either in on it or in on the cover up.
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    Exclamation Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    • Was the Bridge Collapse Deliberate?

    The bridge was named after the man that wrote our national anthem….. Weird as the potato in office is trying to destroy our country!

    We tend to focus too much on the cause, and not enough on the effect. Perhaps this wasn’t about the cargo ship destroying the bridge, but about preventing ships from delivering “cargo” to that port.

    After all, 9/11 wasn’t about destroying airplanes and buildings, it was about destroying America.

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    "I'm a Marine Engineer and work on ships. I will tell you that, There are emergency generators on these ships that will come on automatically when there is power failure from the main generators. This does take anywhere between 20 a d 45 seconds. It is possible that there was an issue with the emergency generator but by CFR regulations monthly load test are required. Also, most engineers will have multiple generators running in parallel while transiting a busy port or beneath a bridge". unqote
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    Default Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    We probably should dig deep on this one, since it may fortell what is to be expected in the near future, say around November of this year.

    [1] The ship that hit the bridge - is managed by:

    Synergy Marine Group, which manages the Dali, said there were 22 people on the ship, including an all-Indian crew and two US harbour pilots, but no reports of any injuries.
    It added that it was "fully co-operating" with federal agencies.

    [2] It manages 400 vessels and now the entire Norden's tanker fleeet.

    Captain Rajesh Unni is the Founder and CEO of Synergy Marine Group, one of the world’s leading shipmanagers.

    Now, with its diverse fleet totalling more than 400 vessels including some of the industry’s most sophisticated designs, Synergy is the ship management partner of choice for the world’s leading owners.

    More recently, Synergy established a tanker joint venture with the Danish Shipping company “Dampskibsselskabet Norden A/S” for the technical management of Norden’s entire owned tanker fleet. The JV will take advantage of Synergy’s digitalisation expertise which enables the improvement of vessel and fleet efficiency.

    [3] this ship management company is led by Captain Unni, who is a joint CEO of Alpha Ori Technologies, and their patented software SMARTShip:

    Driven by a firm conviction that shipping must rapidly evolve from analogue to digital, Captain Unni is joint CEO of Alpha Ori Technologies (AOT) which he founded in 2017. He recently established AOT’s Centre of Innovation in Singapore which can remotely monitor, diagnose and control most operational aspects of digital vessels using AOT’s patented software, SMARTShip. This has now received ClassNK approval and installation has been completed on more than 100 ships with another 150 vessels in process.

    [4] Recently ZeroNorth and Alpha Ori Technologies closed a deal to join forces, accelerating green global trade and zero emissions shipping.

    [5] ZeroNorth has 2 board members and advisors, including Danny Lange of San Francisco.

    [6] Danny Lange has 2 current jobs as Vice President of Artificial Intelligence at Unity, and Mortgage Broker at Finsure Finance & Insurance. Additionally, Danny Lange has had 2 past jobs including General Manager, Amazon Machine Learning at Amazon.

    [7] So who was really driving the Ship? An AI script? Is this AI's first big accident?
    Can we expect more? Can the powers that be blame the next ones on AI?

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    Default Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

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    "I'm a Marine Engineer and work on ships. I will tell you that, There are emergency generators on these ships that will come on automatically when there is power failure from the main generators. This does take anywhere between 20 a d 45 seconds. It is possible that there was an issue with the emergency generator but by CFR regulations monthly load test are required. Also, most engineers will have multiple generators running in parallel while transiting a busy port or beneath a bridge". unqote
    I'm NOT a marine engineer, but I do know a very tiny amount about these things.

    1) A huge container ship like this will be powered by a giant diesel engine, and that will be controlled by a computerized engine management system, basically a scaled-up version of the kinds in modern cars. The ship's rudder(s) will be very much like the power steering on cars, with the power provided by the engines. I don't believe (but do not know for sure) that they're independently powered by electric servo-motors.

    As best I know, if the ship's engine shut down (or was shut down by a cyber attack on the engine management system), backup diesel generators (the kind that provide electrical power on the ship) wouldn't necessarily be able to restart the main engine.

    2) The Dali weighed 116,000 tons. Traveling at several knots, there's no way it could be suddenly stopped by dropping the anchor. There's just way too much momentum. The anchor would drag, or the chain would break, or the whole chain-winch mechanism would be torn from the back of the ship.

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    Default Re: The Baltimore Bridge Collision - How and Why?

    It would be interesting, and perhaps helpful, to learn how fast they were going. The slower the speed the less the rudders could be used to avoid collision. When there are Harbor Pilots aboard they are in complete charge of everything - that is, if the motors aren't shut down somehow - or something else happens that is beyond their control. The anchor thing is just another check mark on their list - they and everyone else knows how futile that is with the space they had to respond in. It takes a lot of room to turn one of those beasts, or to recover from what had to have been a command to the ship to make a very hard right turn.

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