WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Vicus]

Storm Shadow Killer: What We Know About Russian Warships' Pantsir-M Air Defense Shield Yesterday



The naval variant of Russia’s Pantsir surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft artillery system has made its combat debut, taking on and defeating Storm Shadow cruise missiles in the Ukrainian conflict zone. What’s known about the system? How does it differ from the ground version? Where has it been deployed?

Russian Defense holding company High-Precision Systems director Oleg Ryazantsev has confirmed the first-ever use of the Pantsir-M naval air defense system.

“A ship on combat duty defeated Storm Shadow missiles. That is, we can speak about the first successful use of the series Pantsir-M system,” Ryazantsev said in an interview with Zvezda, the official television channel of Russia’s Defense Ministry.

The stealthy Storm Shadow cruise missile is one of several classes of weaponry being used by Ukrainian forces, and the Pantsir is designed specifically “to combat this kind of threat,” the director said.
Ryazantsev did not elaborate on the details of the incident, including when it took place or which Russian warship was involved.

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https://sputnikglobe.com/20240407/pa...117792920.html

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ipU5obb-xtw

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[Ravenlocke]

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🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Iskander missiles wreaked havoc in Zaporozhiy, obliterating a warehouse and workshop dedicated to churning out hefty UAVs

Responding to the Kiev regime's brazen attempts to sabotage Russian oil and gas infrastructure, the Russian military is unleashing pinpoint strikes with long-range precision weapons on military-industrial enterprises, armament workshops, UAV manufacturing hubs, and energy installations bolstering Ukraine's military-industrial complex, the Russian Ministry of Defense disclosed.

Slavyangrad

https://x.com/dana916/status/1777392069247385737

[Vicus]

Crimean Offensive: 80 Years Since Soviet Troops' Historic Victory Over Nazis

The Soviet forces' Crimean offensive, which lasted 35 days and resulted in a total defeat of the Nazi troops, became one of the most important strategic military operations of the Second World War.

Monday marks the 80th anniversary of the start of the Red Army's strategic offensive to liberate the Crimean Peninsula from Nazi invaders during the Great Patriotic War.
The Crimean offensive began on April 8, 1944, when Soviet troops of the 4th Ukrainian Front broke through enemy defenses south of Lake Sivash and on the Perekop Isthmus. The operation ended on May 12, 1944 with the complete defeat of the 200,000-strong 17th German Army near Cape Chersonesos.

Check out Sputnik's infographic to see how Soviet forces managed to drive the Nazis out of Crimea in only 35 days!

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240408/cr...117805396.html

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VlPvWbvoS9Q

[Ravenlocke]

Rus Furious Ukr Attacks Zaporozhie NPP,
Kiev Military Crisis, Begs Patriots;
Macron Plans Troops Ukr

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xRywwp1XZGI

[Jaak]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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🇷🇺⚔️🇱🇻🇪🇪🇸🇪 Russia may demand compensation from the Baltic states, says State Duma deputy Anatoly Wasserman

“We bought Latvia and Estonia from Sweden in 1721 for 2 million joachimstalers. We can demand that Latvia and Estonia return this amount, of course, with accrued interest,” the politician told Baltnews correspondent Svetlana Pikta

BALTNEWS


https://x.com/dana916/status/1777376284491878714

Estonians have been in the same area for 10 000 years.Who else can say that ? Slavs came to north 1000 years ago and not peacefully.
Foreign species in foreign land. I just always find it funny when they claim that certain areas are historicly theirs.But it´s sad that people believe this kind of nonsense.It´s like Australians trying to tell Aborigenes that they have more right for the land because they excelled more in brutality...
Need to show that russian jew a certain treaty that they keep ignoring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty...E2%80%93Russia)
The terms of the treaty stated: "In consequence of the right of all peoples to self-determination, to the point of seceding completely from the State of which they form part, a right proclaimed by the Socialist and Federal Russian Republic of the Soviets, Russia unreservedly recognizes the independence and sovereignty of the State of Estonia, and renounces voluntarily and forever all sovereign rights possessed by Russia over the Estonian people and territory whether these rights be based on the juridical position that formerly existed in public law, or in the international treaties which, in the sense here indicated, lose their validity in future." Ratifications of the treaty were exchanged in Moscow on 30 March 1920. It was registered in League of Nations Treaty Series on 12 July 1922.[1]
Sorry for unpopular opinion.

[shaberon]

Posted by Tintin (here)
Although the Anglo-American nexus does delegate amongst itself certain responsibilities at certain times depending on the task. or tasks to be undertaken, one of the reasons why I tend to stress that it isn't always "US this" and "US that" who are culpable; much of the work is gleefully undertaken by certain persons behind the scene in Britain. I know you know this, but others may not.

Yes, again, let us ask ourselves: what happened to the xenophobic United States that was friends with Russia?

America had no detectable "foreign policy" until around the Spanish--American War, 1896.

Being a breakaway part of an Empire, which was world-wide, somehow, they reverted to doing the Empire's bidding.

It's not an accident. Wall Street has been foreign collusion since its inception. It was held in check for a while, but has constantly pushed the envelope for laws in its favor, until this became the norm; now it is simply insatiable.

Amongst many *other things, including Rhodes' Rothschild financing, in the background of course - all the time - were the Zionists, who with Milner's zeal set the stage for WW1 and the destruction of the old European imperialist 'order'.

*Other may also include the horror of the Boer War and British concentration camp atrocities to include 26,000 women and children genocided. That's mirrored in Gaza, right now

Yes, here, the Boer War represents the first use of propaganda to sell a Capitalists' war to the public, which would not support it.

Ironic that South Africa is now one of the loudest dogs barking at Israel.

Ukraine and Zionism are inseparable, even if you do not understand the historical details, there are plenty of modern responses declaring them to be the same thing/same mindset.

The Rhodes Round Tables are fairly well-known, due to involving important persons. The Pilgrims' Society is similar, but much more insidious, due to its bland, non-descript, and basically silent participants. This one still continues today, I think it has over 400 members.

In almost all cases, it is not really the big, showy, Great Leaders who make the wheels turn, rather, it is the deeper ranks of the Petits-Bourgeoisie. All revolutions that successfully deposed an oppressive regime were effectively led "from the middle" like this, and, on the other side, same is true of most destructive death squads.

I just ran into something related that I'll post elsewhere, as it doesn't really refer to Russia.

But this is big, right? Almost everything we could possibly learn actually *is* explanatory towards the stupid exterminations we witness in Ukraine *and* Israel.

I could understand times past, someone might not believe me, or say there was no proof, that this is a matter of opinion, etc., but I cannot understand modern times where with instant information and Israel basically saying "We Are Genocide" and yet it could be ignored or talked around. I have absolutely no clue why anyone would believe in or support anything like that. It's a form of Flat Earth but much more dangerous. Maybe it is because I have no feelings of supremacy or of scripture mania.

[shaberon]

Posted by Jaak (here)
Estonians have been in the same area for 10 000 years.Who else can say that ?

There are several of those, but, what is noticeable is that some European countries are named after at least migrants, if not invaders. Scotland, England, France, Germany, Russia, Turkey if you want to count that, are all names that specifically indicate foreign origin.


A similar situation is Kurdistan.

Arabic, Blue, 1803:






Outlined in red, 1902:





Caught between the Diktat of the Allied Powers, and the actual powers of modern Turkey.

Without the course that affected the Ottoman Empire, there would be no Israel.

Speaking as someone descended from migrants, the best I can say, is, that as far as I know, my ancestors were not involved with aggression against Native Americans. I'm 1/64 Cherokee. Here's the kicker. These Cherokee were themselves Iroquoian invaders who slaughtered the Moon Eyed People. Further, genetics have found that thinking of Native Americans as 10,000 years ago Siberians is actually a "recent addition". Older strata of about 40,000 years show that they are more closely related to groups deeper in Russia. In other words they share genetics with Europeans.

This older time frame is considered the beginning of Anatomically Modern Humans. Haplogroup U is found from Europe across Russia until you get to the Asiatic Siberians. Somehow the Americans got around the Asians and over to America. Around 12,000 years ago, a southern movement can be found which becomes the Indians and Ethiopians. This whole branch of humanity of the Northern Hemisphere is all somewhat closely related.

Most Neanderthals have traces of them.

I believe the very oldest specimen is from Romania.

But this is going through hundreds of findings that are well past 10,000 years, and shows us that the oldest detectable Native Americans are more closely related to Romanians than to Mongolians, or Africans, or Australics.

It seemed to me the Russian political quote was a snide sense of humor. I would be surprised if the Duma said it was a real action. Sometimes they just toss out counter-points, like when they say Israel's methods would justify them attacking NATO member states; there is a lot of "we could" in their rhetoric.

[Jaak]

[Vicus]

Estonians have been in the same area for 10 000 years.Who else can say that ?
posted by Jaak

All the Americas native folks that survived the Europeans invaders until today...in pure blood and/or blended with them...

The only time in my life I was disrespect as foreign was in Spain !
I was in a tapas bar and from nowhere an old woman never saw before say to me :

Do you know what your people has done to us?

I was too young to understand at first and don't say a word, later came to me:

Argentinian army kiked out spaniars not only from Argentina but from Chile and Peru too! where was
the Spanish Viceroy ... and so they cant plunder anymore!

That old woman living in the far away past regretting today the old Spanish Empire...

I suppose the few Neanderthal today are disgusting yet with the Cro-Magnon people today...

Every "talk" about "race"," blood" and so on come dangerously close to NAZI ideology...

This Thread has no place for Russo-phobia, after 708 pages should be more as clear for everybody
with 2 neurons still working...

There are pro/contra Trump Threads, pro/contra Elon musk,etc

I suggest make your own contra Russia thread and then will see...

And don't forget: if your wet dreams should come true and Russia will be nuked, all the little dogs (countries)barking at the BIG BEAR will be NO MORE TOO!

[Tintin]

Posted by shaberon (here)

Ukraine and Zionism are inseparable...,same thing/same mindset.

And this is a salient point that many can't seem to grapple with. I understand why of course: the Zionists deliberately conflated/appropriated 'Jewishness' with its ethno-supremacist political ideology, muddying the waters but it is as you say the exact same mindset. (*Ukraine, essentially latterly but previously suggested as a 'Heavenly New Jerusalem', and Israel, as Zionist constructs.) That's a simple conclusion to draw.

*I pointed this out on our Avalon 'X' thing a while back and a responder accused "us" - me in that instance obviously - of (paraphrasing): "..losing (lost) the plot ages ago!" Oh, how we wept

Now, attempting to lay that out in a mostly civil environment in a face-to-face situation presents a different challenge. Depending on the audience can be somewhat illuminating for them, or leading to increased dissonance. It doesn't stop one trying of course.

[Tintin]

Well, whatever one thinks of Arestovich I've always thought he was an intelligent fellow. Here in an interview I think from around 2019/2020 he shares particularly acute observations, and of course we all know what happened next....

Source: https://twitter.com/Glenn_Diesen/sta...41049436958943

[Jaak]

Posted by Vicus (here)

And don't forget: if your wet dreams should come true and Russia will be nuked, all the little dogs (countries)barking at the BIG BEAR will be NO MORE TOO!

Not sure why you think i want russia to be nuked.Never have i sayd anything like that or if i have,point it out when and where. Would be nice if you didnt make false claims and again with this negative labeling just for having an opinion you dont like...

[Tintin]

Dmitry Polyanskiy mentioned here via Ukrainian channel source: https://t.me/legitimniy/17634

Dmitry Polyanskiy 🇺🇳
@Dpol_un
The mood in Ukraine now? Let’s check one of its most popular Telegram channels (AI translation):

“To understand the current situation regarding the Ukrainian crisis, it is necessary to assemble the whole picture from a multitude of puzzles. Let us outline the "picture" briefly.

Puzzle 1. Money.
Ukraine's economy is in a coma. It is artificially supported by Western loans. Once the West stops giving, Ukraine's economy will start to "die" rapidly. Everything will die next. The war will end.

Puzzle 2. People.
People are running out. People are getting disappointed. People are tired. People are fleeing. People are dissatisfied with the Zelensky government.

Puzzle 3. Elite.
The elite is divided. The elite rushes to steal more and faster. The elite is taking everything and everyone out of the country.

Puzzle 4. Strategic infrastructure.
Energy is down by 30%. Oil refineries are not working. Chemical plants are under question. Ports are next. Housing and communal services sector is deteriorating (aging, breaking down). Agriculture is reducing cultivation and production. The infrastructure as a whole is aging and in critical condition (no money for maintenance and repairs). Factories and plants are shutting down.

Puzzle 5. Geopolitics.
Ukraine's positions on the world stage are deteriorating. If in 2022 Ukraine was promised to join the EU soon, now it will take at least 10 years, if even an option. Forget about NATO. Debts are not forgiven or promised to be forgiven. Most neutral countries have become even more critical of Ukraine. The list of those supporting Kyiv is shrinking. Fewer people travel to see Zelensky and rarely invite him. Ukraine is no longer talked about everywhere. It is no longer a hype topic, which means it could soon become toxic.

Puzzle 6. Opponent.
The opponent (Russia) has strengthened politically, economically, and industrially during this time. They are producing more equipment, ammunition, drones, missiles, etc. Support for Russia on the world stage has not decreased but increased. There are more people inside Ukraine involved in schemes with the Kremlin. There are fewer people in Ukraine who think that Russia's arrival is bad and awful (especially the number of those who don't care about the flag, as long as there is peace and tranquility, is growing).

Puzzle 7. Frontline.
The situation on the front line is dire. Almost catastrophic. Shortage of ammunition, equipment, and personnel. Moral is low, many are in a depressed state. Tension is rising between officers and soldiers. Soldiers silently hate the Zelensky government and the General Staff.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to lose positions. The front is collapsing.

Conclusion: the overall picture is negative for Ukraine. With this data, a doctor would say, "we can only hope for a miracle".”

[Vicus]

Posted by Jaak (here)

Posted by Vicus (here)

And don't forget: if your wet dreams should come true and Russia will be nuked, all the little dogs (countries)barking at the BIG BEAR will be NO MORE TOO!

Not sure why you think i want russia to be nuked.Never have i sayd anything like that or if i have,point it out when and where. Would be nice if you didnt make false claims and again with this negative labeling just for having an opinion you dont like...

I don't argue with TROLLS.

[Tintin]

Via Koba on 'X':

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Presumably, a 300-mm high-precision MLRS 9K515 "Tornado-S" from the State Border Covering Group struck a 9M542/544 guided missile with high-explosive fragmentation equipment at a railway train with tanks with fuel and lubricants at one of the large fuel and lubricant warehouses of the #UkrainianArmedForces in the Kharkov region.

Target designation was carried out by the Z-16VHD60 turret multispectral optical-electronic module with a long-focus TV channel with an optical zoom of 60x at a resolution of 720p.

The minimum circular probable deviation was made possible thanks to the effective functioning of the 9B706.01 guidance and control head unit with the strapdown INS SN398 and the noise-resistant GLONASS correction module

[Tintin]

Drone footage of fighters from the "Storm" detachment and the 1st battalion of the 123rd brigade of the 2nd AK storming Ukrop trenches on motorbikes in the Seversky direction - the AFU fled without engaging and by the morning the position was under Russian control.

Enter....the motorbikes - an interesting tactic, via Simplicius on 'X':

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Russia is clearly experimenting with a variety of new tactics. One is the Dune-worm medieval siege engine on tracks, with the 90s RPG-like follower 'train' snaking directly behind.

Now it's motor bikes using speed simply to get to the enemy trench long before they're intercepted by artillery or drones.

In truth, sending an entire company of guys on fast, silent e-bikes would likely work even better than a giant, sluggish armored tank detachment, which becomes easy pickings.

1. the bikes' weight likely doesn't even activate anti-tank mines
2. as long as friendly artillery/drones do suppressive fire on the enemy trench to keep their heads down, the bikes won't face much resisting fire.

The problem is, the tactic can only work for a time. If it became used on the regular, the enemy would adapt in some way.

[Jaak]

[Tintin]

Bucha update via the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Telegram channel, published today:

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Statement by Ilya Rogachev Russian Ambassador to South Africa - Reply to the article in Business Day

✍️Recent Reuters article published in Business Day refers («Russian crimes in Ukraine ‘show a pattern of genocidal behaviour’» of 3 April).

❌ Lots of lies about what happened in Bucha are being pushed by Kiev with diplomatic and media support of the West. For objective observers, we’d like to present facts.

✅ While Russian forces were in Bucha until March 30, 2022, its residents moved freely around the town, used mobile phones and internet, and there were no complaints about our servicemen whatsoever. Russia withdrew troops from the town as a gesture of good will, in the wake of progress at Istanbul talks (a draft peace treaty was agreed by late March 2022).

☝🏻Footage showing bodies strewn across the town only appeared after the Ukrainian armed forces entered the town, accompanied by foreign journalists, apparently tasked with telling the public this fabricated story.

❗️Results of the examination of the bodies from Bucha showed that most of the civilians died from fragments of anti-personnel 122-mm shells fitting the D-30 howitzers (in service with Ukraine military). Therefore, people were not shot by Russian soldiers, as Kiev insists, they were killed by Ukraine army’s artillery strikes targeting Bucha, with some of the bodies likely brought from elsewhere.

🔎 No independent investigation was ever conducted to reveal the names of those killed, their origin, circumstances of their death, as well as to explain why bodies were moved from one place to another (as seen on photos from different sources). Multiple requests by Russia to international organizations, including UNSG and OHCHR, remain unanswered.

👉 Naturally, the organizers of this provocation have things to hide. Their goal was to disrupt the settlement between Russia and Ukraine (in support of B.Johnson’s mission to Kiev at the same time), justify economic sanctions against Russia and loads of weapons for Zelensky regime.

🇺🇦 By far, this is not a unique instance of a staged civilian suffering in Ukraine since February 2022.

Source: https://t.me/MFARussia/19818