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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Hold your children close
    (21:07)
    "Killing nobody in a fireworks event represents a casus belli for WW3 apparently. The US spent $1.6bn last night defending that rat Netanyahu who fled to an American billionaire’s bomb shelter"
    A further relevant segment from the most recent George Galloway's MOATS relating to Iran's response.
    "Is there an idea more radical in the history of the human race than turning your children over to total strangers whom you know nothing about, and having those strangers work on your child's mind, out of your sight, for a period of twelve years?" John Taylor Gatto

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    I have no way of knowing how real this story is but I already know they fake war footage at our end of things.

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    This from Pepe Escobar, and, actually, very likely could have been the case actually: there's always some back-channelling happening, always; agreed red lines etc..

    In any case....
    THE SHADOWPLAY

    So this is how it happened.

    Burns met an Iranian delegation in Oman.

    He was told the Israeli punishment was inevitable - and if the US got involved then all US bases will be attacked, and the Strait of Hormuz would be blocked.

    Burns said we do nothing if no civilians are harmed. The Iranians said it will be a military base or an embassy.

    The CIA said go ahead and do it.
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    Should it become a talking point with whomever, wherever, take it from this man - Craig Murray - who knows. It doesn't excuse Israel's provocation in Damascus on April 1st, not at all, but it's well worth remembering this. (He isn't taking a side in this post, just laying out the facts.):
    "I swear as a former British Ambassador and 22 year career diplomat. Almost every US or British Embassy hosts a CIA or MI6 station. All house military personnel. Many service special forces. That the Iranian diplomatic premises were qualitatively different is rubbish.".
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    I found this analysis by "Simplicius" to be helpful. He argues that (ignoring all the lies and spin) we have witnessed an historically unprecedented event:

    e.g.:

    This strike was unprecedented for several important reasons. Firstly, it was of course the first Iranian strike on Israeli soil directly from Iranian soil itself, rather than utilizing proxies from Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. This alone was a big watershed step that has opened up all sorts of unprecedented milestones and potentials for escalatory spirals.

    Secondly, it was one of the most advanced and longest range peer-to-peer style exchanges in history. Even in Russia, where I have noted we’ve seen the first ever truly modern near-peer conflict, with unprecedented scenes never before witnessed like when highly advanced NATO Storm Shadow missiles flew to Crimea while literally in the same moments, advanced Russian Kalibrs flew past them in the opposite direction—such an exchange has never been witnessed before, as we’ve become accustomed to seeing NATO pound on weaker, unarmed opponents over the last few decades. But no, last night Iran upped the ante even more. Because even in Russia, such exchanges at least happen directly over the Russian border onto its neighbor, where logistics and ISR is for obvious reasons much simpler.

    But Iran did something unprecedented. They conducted the first ever modern, potentially hypersonic, assault on an enemy with SRBMs and MRBMs across a vast multi-domain space covering several countries and timezones, and potentially as much as 1200-2000km. This has never before been witnessed…

    The point is that, ... Iran may have just proven an absolutely lethal inability of Israel and the West to sustain against a potential long drawn-out Iranian strike campaign; i.e. one prosecuted over the course of days or weeks, with consistent daily mass-barrages. Such a campaign would likely critically deplete the West’s ability to shoot down even the lowest scale Shahed drone threat. Just look at Ukraine—it is going through the same lesson as we speak.

    What does this mean?

    One neglected consequence of this is that Iran now stands to field the ability to totally disrupt Israel’s economic way of life. If Iran were to engage in a committed campaign of mass strikes, it could totally paralyze the Israeli economy by making entire areas uninhabitable, causing mass migrations in the same way the Hamas attack led thousands of Israelis to flee.

    Unlike Israel’s barbaric and savage genocide aimed primarily at civilians, last night’s Iranian attack exclusively targeted military sites. But if Iran wanted to, they could launch mass infrastructure attacks in the way Russia has now done to Ukraine’s energy grids, further compounding the economic damage. In short: Iran could mire Israel in months’ and years’ long economic malaise or outright devastation.

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    • At Least 9 Iranian Missiles Hit 2 Israeli Airbases. ABC Reports. Military Aircraft Damaged:

    The fact that the Ramon Air Force base which was heavily defended was hit tells you everything you need to know. Iran has demonstrated it can hit back anywhere it wants in the region. This is significant, and no amount of propaganda can change this fact now.

    Iran gave the West notice 72 hours before the attack. It still hit 2 strategic sites at least both air bases.

    These hits are a bonus! ... Because the missiles and drones were supposed to get taken out, thus emptying the air defense systems/missiles !

    These missiles and drones Iran use were old and cheap stuff and reports coming in say defending cost VIP country about USD 1.3 billion (yes a Billion with a B).

    @fazkuruni7439 quote:
    • “Israeli War Cabinet decided to attack Iran tonight” - Israeli Channel 14
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Iran attacks Israel, brought to you by Coca Cola, Vanguard and BlackRock

    Quote The corporate theater of the absurd that passes off as news in the West reached a new low with the so-called Iranian attack on Israel that was “99% stopped” by Israel. The Israeli cabinet then issued a photograph and video with bottles of Coca Cola prominently displayed. Coca Cola is owned by Vanguard, BlackRock and the usual suspects so you know who is sponsoring this “Iranian attack.” Of course the Israeli government had to obey the orders of their corporate sponsors with product placement.

    This theater though, hides a very real war that is now raging between two alternative timelines for the planet earth. This war is heading for a climactic battle in May. That is when the Khazarian Mafia will be trying to use their privately owned WHO to impose totalitarian rule over humanity via their “pandemic treaty.” The KM are planning to release bio-weapons to create a pandemic just in time for the discussion. This is probably why people reported chemtrails being sprayed all over the US before the April 8theclipse.

    This “emergency” they create will then be used to justify forced vaccinations, forced internment in concentration camps, total censorship etc.

    The KM, headed by David Rene de Rothschild, Klaus Schwab Rothschild etc. say they are not going to give up control of the financial system. Instead they propose to use crypto currencies to continue their unelected rule. Under their plan everyone will be given a “basic income” that will be tied to their “social credit score.” If you obediently take all their vaccines etc. you will be allowed to eat insect protein, travel outside your “zone” and get other benefits, Those who are disobedient will have their income restricted or cut off and have their travel restricted etc. Real dissidents will be systematically killed off.
    There's a coke zero & classic. It reminds me of the Vatican coin.


    I believe this Vatican coin is displaying the goal of a global population of zero because the victim is pointing to it.


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    Russia calls out 'hypocrisy' of Western demands for UN to discuss Iran's retaliatory attack
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    Failure to condemn the Israeli bombing of Tehran's consulate in Syria spurred the latest violence, Russia's ambassador has argued Russian Ambassador to the UN Vassily Nebenzia

    The UN Security Council helped give rise to Saturday's Iranian attack against Israel by hypocritically failing to take action over the illegal bombing that provoked the latest violence in the region, Russia's ambassador to the global body has claimed.

    "What happened on the night of April 14 did not happen in a vacuum," Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia told members of the UN Security Council on Sunday. "The steps undertaken by Iran became a reaction to the disgraceful inaction by this council."

    At issue was the April 1 missile strike that killed seven Iranian military officers, including two senior commanders, at Tehran's consulate in Damascus. Western members of the Security Council stood in the way of rebuking Israel over the "egregious attack," despite the fact that it was a violation of international law on the inviolability of diplomatic installations, the Russian envoy said.

    "We called on UN Security Council colleagues to clearly and unequivocally condemn such reckless steps to make sure that they don't get repeated," Nebenzia noted. "We also warned that otherwise, the risk of a repeat of such acts and a general escalation in the region would grow manifold." He added, "The outcome is now clear for everyone to see."

    Iran launched hundreds of suicide drones and missiles against Israel on Saturday night. West Jerusalem claimed success in intercepting 99% of the barrages and preventing major casualties or infrastructure damage.

    The Israeli Foreign Ministry responded by calling for "painful sanctions" against Iran, as well as the designation of Tehran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organization. An emergency UN Security Council session was convened to discuss the attack.

    Nebenzia contrasted the council's concern over protecting Western nations and their allies with its inaction when Israel bombed Iran's consulate. "We know very well that an attack against a diplomatic representation is a casus belli under international law. And if a Western representation had been hit, you would immediately have rained down reprisals."

    However, he added, "when it comes to other countries, their rights - including the right to self-defense - well, that's a different matter, as you like to say... What we're witnessing is a display of hypocrisy and double standards that is almost embarrassing to watch."

    The US, UK, and France essentially declined to confirm that the basic principles of international law concerning diplomatic facilities apply equally to all states, Nebenzia said. At the same time, Israel has faced no consequences for disregarding UN resolutions, including last month's demand for a ceasefire in Gaza.

    "We think it's urgent for the entire international community to undertake all efforts necessary to deescalate the situation," the ambassador said. "Otherwise, the region could be drawn into a vicious cycle of mutual attacks and violence."

    https://www.sott.net/article/490647-...liatory-attack

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    Vultures: Israeli firms working overtime to sell stolen Palestinian land to US Jews Eleanor Goldfield
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    © Eleanor GoldfieldZionists encircle anti-Zionist protesters standing with keffiyehs and a sign reading "Waterfront properties built upon bulldozed bodies" outside of Shomrei Emunah in Baltimore, Maryland.

    The real estate events peddling land in Israeli settlements in the West Bank appear to flout US and international law.

    "Your chance to own a piece of the Holy Land!" exclaims the cheerful advertising copy on a real estate website aimed at attracting buyers in the U.S. and Canada to purchase land located in Israel and in a number of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. The site describes five land sale events that occurred this spring in the U.S. and Canada.

    Another land sale event held in Baltimore invited attendees to "Buy Your Home in Israel Now!" But, as with the other events, attendees couldn't just be anyone interested in some freshly stolen land. You have to be Jewish, but not just any kind of Jewish.

    Greg Kaplan, a local Jewish community member who wanted to learn more about these restrictive events and who tried signing up for the April 1 land sale event in Baltimore, which was hosted by the Jerusalem-based CapitIL Real Estate Agency, told me:

    I got a call from Shmuly Eisenmann of CapitIL. He asked me where I daven, who the rabbi is there, and for the rabbi's number, seeming incredulous that I wouldn't just have the rabbi's number stored in my phone. He said he would check on me with the rabbi and asked if the rabbi would know who I was. I said probably not because I don't go to shul that much. He asked if there was someone at another shul who could vouch for me.

    Kaplan was not allowed into the event, which was scheduled to take place at Shomrei Emunah, "a full-service shul and Jewish center" in Baltimore whose list of speakers and scholars in residence includes an IDF lieutenant colonel.

    The commission added that these events violate not only U.S. law but also international law with regard to hosts "exhibiting and offering properties on West Bank settlements recognized as illegal by the U.S. Department of State and by international law" including "Article 49 of the Geneva Convention ... Settlements have been found to be grave breaches of international law, and therefore war crimes, by the International Court [ICJ] of Justice in 2004, and are also currently under review by the ICJ in the context of the case of South Africa v. Israel for crimes of genocide, and by the International Criminal Court."

    continue: https://www.sott.net/article/490648-...and-to-US-Jews

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    If it turns out all this is part of a big plan, either Pike's 3 world wars...


    Need to wash this part away. It's a joke, a hoax. The Anglo variety of Imperialism against Russia is prior and continuous. False attributions to the almost-nobody Albert Pike can only conceal it. Because Russia is a Christian country, and, most others are not, there is a secondary mental manipulation happening here. It is closely parallel to who is taking in waves from former colonies.


    Neither the UK nor anyone else has defense treaties with Israel; it has no allies.

    The situation is indeed "new" to Zio analysts:


    Quote The Zionist analysts affirmed that Iran has managed to impose a new deterrence formula, according to which, ‘Israel’ would not be able to attack Iranian people or interests without entailing a harsh response.

    The reservists military general Benny Ma’ir said that the Iranians changed the formula and had gained legitimacy for their attack on ‘Israel’ in accordance with the international law .

    This requires that we shut up and operate secretly when we carry out any attack on Iran, Ma’ir said, who voiced concerns about the reinforcement of the Iranian formula to include all the Zionist attacks.

    Roi Sharon, a military analyst, said that ‘Israel’ is now obliged to face the new formula imposed by the Iranians regarding the attacks on Iranian targets in Syria.

    The Zionist analysts considered that the Iranian attack exposed the Zionist entity’s fragility in the region and need for the US protection as well as the role of some Arab regimes who support ‘Israel’.

    The political analyst, Yoav Fard, said wondered how ‘Israel’ can engage in a battle against Iran while it is still unable to defeat Hamas and liberate the prisoners held in Gaza.

    No overwhelming invasion through Jordan, nothing nuclear or terroristic, a 1:1 reprisal shows Israel is doomed. Sorry, no major provocations to force the U. N. Army to stabilize the middle east for you.


    Current withdrawals before the "Rafah invasion":





    I do not yet know if the air force base was seriously harmed. They admitted devastation of the spy center in Golan, which is enough to be construed as a deterrent.

    As to what "secret attacks" may affect an enemy 1,100 km away, they may have just lost all firepower. Aside from a decreasing number of local Mazzinist brigades, they don't have much. You saw the Mossad center in Iraq. Pulverized.

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    Use your own discernment

    In this video Michael Salla shows a message in text format at 3:13 from Elena Danaan's proclaimed off-world contact Thor Han Eredyon.

    This is how he signed it: T.H. Eredyon, GFW XL6 Sol Station High Command

    At 6:46 he shows Edgar Cayce's prediction about Russia.
    Quote Through Russia, comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what is sometimes termed communism or Bolshevism - no! But freedom - freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized; yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world.
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    There has to be a line... doesn't there?
    Israel has gone to far... but they cry in the UN court as they're innocent victims... Disgusting!!!


    Mass grave found in Gaza: Bodies found in grounds of al-Shifa hospital


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    BREAKING: ISRAEL ATTACKS 7 JOURNALISTS, REFUGEE CAMP


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    Regarding Iran... A traitors are always a traitors... the Shah son should ask himself why his father was kicked out of Iran.. I remember that years... his father stole all the money of Iran and starved his people...

    I agree with Cenk here!!!
    Who is THIS woman... she reminds me of V Nuland!!!!!!! The same type of craziness...

    “I'm Laughing In Your FACE” Cenk Uygur vs Emily Schrader On Iran-Israel

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    This video shows the Arrow-2 & Arrow-3 missiles used in Israel's iron dome.

    Reuters
    Quote April 14 (Reuters) - Israel used a multi-layered defence shield to block Iran's mass drone and missile attack on Israeli territory overnight. Its defensive array includes short-range Iron Dome and long-range Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 missiles.
    Israel has been honing its air defences since coming under Iraqi Scud salvoes in the 1991 Gulf war.
    ARROW
    The long-range Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 system, developed by Israel with an Iranian missile threat in mind, is designed to intercept ballistic missiles outside the earth's atmosphere, using a detachable warhead that collides with the target.
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    An example from someone with a bit more influence than the newspaper:



    Quote Israeli Opposition Leader Yair Lapid said that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government “have become an existential threat to Israel,” accusing them of destroying Israeli deterrence.

    Addressing the press ahead of his Yesh Atid party’s weekly faction meeting in the Knesset — held this week despite the legislative recess — Lapid stated that both friends and enemies of the Zionist entity “smell weakness” from the current government.

    “I was in Washington last week, in meetings with the entire administration. They are shocked by this government: by the lack of responsibility, by the lack of professionalism, by the mismanagement,” he said, as quoted by Israeli media.

    “While the United States has lived up to its commitment to Israel’s security, Netanyahu has not,” The Times of Israel quoted Lapid as saying

    “All that is left of Mr. Security” are “ruins from Be’eri to Kiryat Shmona, violence by Jewish terrorists who have become out of control, and a complete loss of Israeli deterrence,” he added.

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    I see ... so many many evangelicals in US are so hateful and full of rage... So sad!!! And those people support Trump... and he plays them as a fiddle too... OMG!!!
    I also red somewhere .. that now Iran is having pandemic with Bird flu.. this is becoming very serious situation... everything became crazy and scary on purpose...

    Unhinged Evangelical Pastor Ranting About War in Israel


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    And this... OMG!



    Riddhi Patel Bakersfield Speech: Protestor Once Abused BJP & PM Modi Jailed In America | Israel Gaza


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    This seems reasonable, an analysis of the Iranian attack shows damage on 2/3 runways at Nevatim:









    So, you can't use them, but there is one you can, and something like that can probably be repaired in two weeks.

    If anything, destruction was rained on the Mossad in Golan. However the consequences are much as in this view of True Promise:


    The Likud Military Cabinet is already thinking how to defend itself against the above possible attacks, but the wisdom says: “The greatest enemy will hide where you last look” – Julius Caesar. I do not want to make it easier for the Zionists to find these very enemies, I will only write that the Great Silk Road is already close, the Intermarium is a reality, and the Hashemite hypocrites will soon be killed.



    Correct, there is the inter-sea exchange out of Makran, Pakistan, that does not depend that much on the Suez Canal. While we are adjusting:


    Quote The tactical nuances of the Iranian attack are no less interesting. Here is what the analyst writes under the pseudonym “Fadi Quran“:

    ” My analysis is that the scale of Iran’s attack, the diversity of locations it targeted, and weapons it used, forced Israel to uncover the majority of anti-missile technologies the US and it have across the region. The Iranians did not use any weapons Israel didn’t know it had, it just used a lot of them. But the Iranians likely now have almost a full map of what Israel’s missile defense system looks like, as well as where in Jordan and the Gulf the US has installations. It also knows how long it takes to prepare them, how Israeli society responds…etc.”.

    It is necessary to indicate the reaction from the enemy camp. Thus, the Americans note the presence of advanced weapons in the Islamic Republic and the successful effectiveness of tactical maneuvers. As for the Zionists, they immediately imposed censorship, which resulted in a ban on the publication of any information about the bombed air bases in Nevatim and the Negev. Nevertheless, there are rumors among the Zionists about victims from among Mossad employees. It is important to note here that the split that formed inside the cabinet of terrorist Netanyahu in connection with the Hamas operation on October 7 has acquired even more pronounced features. The terrorist Likud government simply does not know what to do and is facing many problems both inside and outside the “entity”, and the Iranian military response has further aggravated Netanyahu’s situation.

    The Americans, in terms of protecting the Zionists, limited themselves to show-off and imitation, Biden’s move was taken as a demonstration of dissatisfaction with Netanyahu’s behavior, the UN, which was assembled in connection with Zionist hysteria and did not come to any consensus at all, since even the most ardent friends of the Zionists understand that it is “militant Likudniks and Talmudic extremists” who want to expand the horizons of the war beyond the borders of occupied Palestine, which cannot be allowed. The opposition to the Likud has gained additional motivation to put pressure on the ruling coalition of Zionist education. In short, the end of Netanyahu and his fanatical henchmen in the person of Ben Gvir and Smotrich is near.


    I did not get a clear picture about the Red Heifer, which is really a big episode of "brought to you by":


    Quote Behind what appears to be eschatological “madness”, the plot of a precise and coordinated organization emerges: a network of entrepreneurs, university professors and foundations who have been trying for years to make this biblical prophecy come true.

    The central character of this story is the Texan breeder and entrepreneur Byron Stinson. The rabbis turned to him to find the 5 Red Heifar to sacrifice. In a long interview given to an online TV channel on biblical prophecies, Stinson talks about the selection of the animals and the way in which they were transported to Israel by ship. Stinson calls himself a “Christian Zionist.” To get the cows to their destination, Stinson said he circumvented federal regulations on the transportation of live animals and the laws in force in Israel. Those beasts entered Israeli soil as “pets”.

    Stinson belongs to the network of Zionists and Christians who aim for the Apocalypse. The Texan entrepreneur is a member of the “BonehIsrael” organizations and the “National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance” group.

    Stinson explains in detail how he accomplished this mission: “I recently was asked by Jewish Rabbis and friends of mine to help find a pure, spotless Red Cow in Texas, and send it to Israel. These Fathers of the faith have been looking for this perfect cow for 40 years. They need it, to fulfill the following Biblical command of God”.

    The operation started in December of 2021, when the Rabbis from Jerusalem inspected 21 Red Heifers found by the BonehIsrael team in Texas. All 21 are solid red perfect heifers. Alla fine ne sono state scelte cinque.

    Stinson claims to fully agree with this apocalyptic plan:

    “This is why my Jewish friends felt comfortable asking for my help. And why I feel comfortable asking for the help of any Christian in the world that is drawn by the spirit of the Lord to support Israel and to support building the 3rd Temple of God.

    I do understand and hear from many, about fears. Fears that the Antichrist is prophesied in many books of the Bible. That he will come and claim to be the Messiah in this 3rd Temple. And yes, the antichrist will come”.

    Stinson developed the project together with Rabbi Yitshak Mamo, Uvne Yerusalim professor, a group that preserves Israel’s history and works to educate future generations. Mamo – also affiliated with the “National Gathering for Prayer and Repentance” – purchased the land on the Mount of Olives where the rite will be celebrated. According to the rabbi, the ceremony “It had to be exactly at the front of the place that the priest that made this ceremony can see the Holy of the Holy Place”.

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    • Hypocrisy Over Iran Becomes Total Carcrash:

    • This selective amnesia to Israel’s behaviour is mind-boggling.
    • Cameron embarrassed himself in front of the world. He looked like a complete fool and s hypocrite.
    • Countries have the right to respond .. but Gazans don’t?
    • Didn’t Iran warn Israel of the attack. It was a gesture. Does Cameron think we are stupid? We’re obviously not as stupid as him.
    • The level of HYPOCRISY is sickening !! Has EVERYONE lost their collective minds wasn't it ISRAEL who bombed the Iranian embassy in Syria killing a dozen people !!! Where was the condemnation for that serious breach of the Geneva convention !!
    • Apparently, only Israel has the right to defend itself. The hypocracy is unbelievable.
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    My two cents: Iran earned themselves a lot of respect from both sides of the aisle (when one removes the propaganda wool, especially from the West).

    --> Giving everyone a heads up of about a week to get ready and prepare themselves (including Israel, NATO, the Arab neighbors etc)

    --> Even when finally striking they gave everyone another 3 hours or so!

    --> Despite all this they still managed to showcase determination/ prowess and that they can and DO mean business!

    --> Sparing (civilian) lifes but still striking significant military sites (Negev,Ramon,Mount Hermon intelligence HQ)

    --> They achieved this with an air attack crossing several countries which I believe was a World's first!

    --> Everyone (outside of propaganda) has realized what Iran is capable of and that they could inflict REAL damage if they wanted to

    At the same time Jordan lost a lot of respect in the Arab world. That King Abdullah appears to be a real traitor, like WTF.?

    Either way, one definite positive thing came out of all this - Israel was forced to delay its invasion of Rafah and may be off the table now for a while.

    Btw!! Is it wrong for me to hope for Israel to do something stupid now (in Iran's words "another mistake") so that things escalate further and Iran strikes Israel for real this time?
    I really want Israel to learn a lesson....and learn it HARD.
    Of course I'm also hoping that this goes without nukes from either side but even that doesn't concern me too much...
    So again, is there something wrong with me? Or do others here feel the same way? (Please be honest!)

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