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    During a summit on Ukraine, Finland's president complained that Russia had 'invaded' his country during the Second World War and taken 10 per cent of its territory.

    Just to remind you, Finland was Hitler's ally in the Second World War, and Russia returned the previously seized territories.

    Russia occupied big part of Karelia and i dont think they gave anything back. And that happened before Hitler and Stalin went to war with each other and were pretty much allies during first soviet invasion to Finland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karelia
    Stalin wanted to take over whole Finland and install a puppet government in there.
    British and allies were helping Stalin to destroy Finland . What other allies were left for them to fight off extermination ?
    Many scandinavians and Estonians helped Finland to fight off the soviet invasion not because they were big fans of fascism or national socialism and wanted to spread it to others in a non-peaceful way but because Stalin was worse than Hitler.
    Also Estonians had a defensive pact with Finland .Thats why many fins later went to Estonia to help fight Stalin.

    Germans helped private business and private households prosper while under Stalin you were put to massgrave or gulag for having such things. For which side you would fight ?
    Sadly too many still believe the zionist version of history that allies were the good guys...
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    My grandfather spent five years of his youth in the front line.
    Much later, when I was a young boy, while I was playing with kittens, he told me very gently and carefully
    of what had happened.

    His final (I understood) experience was: Having been wounded, he woke up in the middle of a pile of Finnish
    corpses. Soviets were coming nearer in a line, shooting at him. He survived, ran like an animal for 20 kms / 13 miles, until he found the new Finnish defensive line.

    He thought God had saved him. After war he never accepted any challenge to fight in any way, whatever the provocation. Some neighbours could not understand him. But he just laughed, I heard it many times.

    He had experienced something beyond anything anyone has to endure.
    My grandmother did not quite understand, and was often very frustrated with
    a man that did not take anything seriously.

    Now, the point: Not a single time did he mention he loved Germans. But everything hinted
    at how much he had fought against Communists. Not Russians, per se.

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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    I do see a force for good in Orthodox Christian Russia - which nation seems, overall (inevitably mixed, and with trial and error) to be pursuing its divine destiny. But that destiny is Not (except very indirectly, and Not as a model to be copied) to save the rest of the world.

    It's not off topic; this is the point.

    Russia is effectively New Byzantium and this has a definite meaning in the Orthodoxy of the religion of Jerusalem.

    It has a similar tone to some other strategies, but, Orthodox rulership has the precise meaning to make:


    Heaven on Earth


    This has no set form. It does not require a constitution, it doesn't really say anything about a king or how one is chosen, it doesn't come with any legal or political anything. It would forbid racial or religious discrimination. It can give these principles, but, it is up to the rulers to adopt them.

    It is, rather, the challenge and admission that "we" are not perfect, and so to manifest the Kingdom of Heaven is a matter of doing "the best job that we can".

    It takes constant re-evaluation and re-qualification.


    It is virtually the antithesis of Divine Right as mentioned recently. So, for example, if we look at the early days of Electors and how they were determined by bishops in the west, you have an initial schism which has triggered most of these wars. The entire administration has been very different for a long time.

    Very different attitudes.


    Patriarch: "I'm doing the best I can"

    Pope: "I am infallible"


    It is the job of Orthodoxy to be that Moral Compass, not to take over.

    Tracing the deviations in the west is easy, it is hard to avoid finding supremacy and death for its own sake, there is a lot of force, it is violent. Such as Senator Graham believes. I can see almost his entire motivation, which leaves me in the position of having to ask who else orders or controls him.

    Correspondingly, such violence could indeed be ranked as "brainchild of the west", while being the type of attitude that was purged in Russia. I can't claim there are zero maniacs living there, but it probably is a substantial cultural difference.


    On situations that amount to control or doomsday scenarios, I'm mostly asking for any details we may not have taken into consideration. Like some time after 9/11, that we found the stock market appeared to have been rigged--at that point you can cast certain entities under suspicion. Companies pushing garbage in serums is not news, we have been posting on that since 1738. The Mountain of Evidence that is Ukraine is, in quantity, almost too much for a single person to take in, but, in actuality, there aren't any surprises.

    As an American, I am sensitive to the fact that the threat of "overthrowing America" is an obsession of my Ultra Nationalist neighbors. In terms of the Truman and John Birch guys, yes, they have a completely different vision than "Globalists", but *both* of them are their own kind of supremacist, wipe out the "other" humans and so on, in the peculiarly western destructive way.

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    Quote Posted by HopSan (here)
    ...everything hinted
    at how much he had fought against Communists. Not Russians, per se.

    In terms of a form of government, this may be important to understand:


    The American Revolution, and revolution in general, is not an anti-Monarchist platform.

    When you look at Communism that can be capitalized and referred to as a particular subject, it is by definition anti-Monarchist.

    Then reverse-engineer that through the many European revolutions of the 1800s, that did not necessarily use the name "Communism" but *did* use its defining platform, then you will understand Palmerston, Mazzini, and the formation of Entente.

    Gutting of cultures up to the affairs of today.

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    • G7 Embraces Crazy Ukrainian Policy


    I'I keep pinching myself to make sure I'm not having a nightmare as I see Biden and the rest of the G7 poodles heading toward war with Russia when they are incapable of fighting such a war to really fight it out and win. Joe Biden appeared on stage yesterday (Thursday) in Italy with the pseudo-president of Ukraine (his term expired and he simply decided to stay in office), the cocaine cowboy of Kiev, to sign a ten-year security agreement. One thing is certain: neither Biden nor Zelensky will still be around in ten years. This is political theater and deception. Biden, backed by the G7, insists that Ukraine has the military capacity, with NATO support, to stop Russia. To be rude, that's bull****! writes Larry Johnson.

    Biden's promises are empty. The United States is unable to provide the air defense, artillery and armor weapons systems that Ukraine says it needs to stop the Russians. They flatly ignore the fact that even if the United States could supply those weapons, Ukraine does not have the manpower or ability to train an army that could stop the Russians. The news from the battlefield in Ukraine is getting sadder by the day. Russia is methodically destroying Ukraine's armed forces and Ukraine's ability to supply electricity to non-existent industrial facilities. Ukraine is the equivalent of a degenerate drug addict, completely dependent on what the US chooses to supply.
    Forget Europe. Despite all the big promises to supply Ukraine, NATO is letting Zelensky down. Do you remember Stoltenberg's lament from April?

    NATO countries have not kept their promises, the US has not agreed on a package for Ukraine for months, European allies have not kept their promises and this had serious consequences on the battlefield,” Stoltenberg said at a press conference during a surprise visit to Kiev.

    Germany and Poland put an exclamation point on this today by declaring that they will not give Ukraine any of their Patriot air defense systems. And the United States has no stock in a warehouse that it can send to Kiev. The only thing they can send to Ukraine is more money, which probably suits Zelensky and his gang of swindlers. They'll steal what they can before this whole charade collapses.

    There was a time when the G7 really had some political influence. But that time is over. Just look at the mortally wounded political dwarfs on stage – Olaf Scholz, Rishi Sunak and Emmanuel Macron – none of whom are likely to be in office by the end of the summer. The G7 is not only politically impotent, but also weak when it comes to GDP. The BRICS countries have more economic strength than the G7 and that gap will widen rather than narrow in the coming years.

    At the same time as the G7's desperate attempt to salvage the Ukraine debacle, the Biden administration announced a new round of sanctions ostensibly targeting Russia. But this is cheating. The real target is China:
    The US has expanded its sanctions on Russia, including a new crackdown on banks doing business with sanctioned entities.
    • It expands a December program to target foreign banks deemed to be helping Russia's war effort in Ukraine.
    • The US has also imposed sanctions on the Moscow stock exchange, halting trading in dollars and euros.
    • The US also sought to restrict Russia's use of technology, including chips and software.
    U.S. President Joe Biden signed an executive order in December imposing sanctions on banks that did business with about 1,200 individuals and companies deemed to be aiding Russia's war machine. These measures, which expose banks to the risk of being cut off from the US financial system, have now been expanded to approximately 4,500 entities.

    Yes, these sanctions don't specifically mention China, but those are the banks the US is targeting. Rather than weakening Russia, this latest move will strengthen ties between Russia and China and further inflame already poor relations between Beijing and Washington. This proves once again that Robert Gates, former CIA director and Secretary of Defense, was right when he assessed Biden's foreign policy: “I think he has been wrong on almost every major foreign policy and national security issue over the last four decades,” Gates said. Danny Davis and I discussed the latest developments today regarding the G7 summit and Ukraine.
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    The helicopter is capable of destroying surface drones, low-speed air targets, armored vehicles and enemy personnel at any time of the day. In addition, the aircraft is equipped with an avionics suite that provides automated mission execution and combat payload control.

    At the international helicopter industry exhibition HeliRussia in Moscow, you can get acquainted with the best world achievements in this field.

    Huge interest in the event was fueled by the massive use of combat reconnaissance and attack helicopters and drones in the Ukrainian theater of operations, the rapid development of unmanned technologies, and the introduction of machine vision based on artificial intelligence.

    The "HeliRussia 2024 Exhibition", which takes place in Moscow on June 10-12, presents the best examples of the Russian and foreign helicopter industry. A rich business program allows specialists to discuss important scientific and technical problems and contributes to the development of international contacts and cooperation.

    The day before, Russian President Vladimir Putin noted that the exhibition was being held under the banner of the 100th anniversary of Russian civil aviation, and wished success to the participants. And the General Director of Rosoboronexport, Alexander Mikheev, said that the portfolio of orders for Russian helicopter equipment includes contracts for the supply of over 170 machines to 20 countries.

    The reconnaissance and strike Ka-52E, the combat Mi-28NME, the military transport “bestseller” Mi-171Sh and the transport and combat Mi-35M and Mi-35P presented on HeliRussia are most in demand on the world market. At the same time, the helicopter industry confidently meets the needs of the Russian Armed Forces with modern machines, the highest characteristics of which have been confirmed by combat operations in the special operation zone.

    HeliRussia's stands truly delight you with the quantity and quality of a variety of rotary-wing aircraft, a wide range of autonomous unmanned systems with elements of artificial intelligence, modern navigation tools and secure communication channels. “Hybrid” aircraft-type drones that take off and land “helicopter-style” are noticeably dominant - this design eliminates the problems with a catapult or take-off run. This is where the direct and immediate, constructive and conceptual influence of the Russian Northern Military District comes into play.

    I believe that over time, the newest drones, which can be launched day and night from a forest clearing, from the deck of a ship, or even on the edge of a precipice, will displace all existing unmanned “classics.” According to reviews from the UAV creators, special attention and orders from the Russian Ministry of Defense ensure high dynamics in the development, implementation, mass production and constant improvement of autonomous reconnaissance and attack drones.



    Belarusian reconnaissance and attack unmanned helicopter Hunter.
    • "Inhumane" machines
    Several new products at the HeliRussia 2024 stands confirm the sustainability of the unmanned development trend - rotary-wing vehicles and aircraft in general.

    The Russian SH-450M unmanned helicopter flies confidently in the harsh conditions of Siberia and the Arctic, delivering cargo to oil workers and other polar workers. Once a flight mission is loaded, it is completely autonomous. Flight range is up to 300 kilometers, time is up to 3.5 hours. Payload - up to 100 kilograms. The machine is mass-produced and is constantly being improved, increasing its intelligence.

    The Belarusian reconnaissance and attack unmanned helicopter Hunter is also ready to work in the harsh conditions of the Arctic, but is designed to search and destroy surface drones, air targets, armored vehicles and enemy personnel at any time of the day - with missiles, aerial bombs and machine-gun fire. To do this, there is an impressive arsenal of ammunition, an aiming system with a ballistic calculator, and five all-round day-night cameras.

    The UAVHELI HD-300 system includes a thermal imager, a television camera, a laser range finder, an inertial module and a powerful computing complex. In addition, Hunter carries on board a defense system, an inertial navigation system and is capable of returning to base using an image of the underlying surface (in the absence of satellite navigation). Maximum speed is 190 km/h. The practical ceiling is 3,500 meters. Flight time is up to six hours. Take-off weight - up to 750 kilograms, payload - up to 200 kilograms.

    The “hybrid” direction of drone development is reflected in the latest Russian UAV “Aist”, designed to operate in extreme conditions - from the Arctic to Africa. An airplane-type drone takes off and lands “helicopter-style.” It has a machine vision system and A.I. elements. Capable of performing reconnaissance and strike missions on the battlefield, carrying a payload of up to 10 kilograms (carrying small drones behind enemy lines). Flight range is up to 400 kilometers. Cruising speed - 90 km/h. Ceiling - 2,500 meters. "Stork" is produced in series, including orders from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The newest Airburg drone from Yekaterinburg also reflects the trend of creating “hybrid” machines with copter takeoff/landing and performing tasks “like an airplane.”

    The device is capable of solving reconnaissance and fire adjustment tasks around the clock and autonomously at a distance of up to 70 kilometers (via secure communication channels) from the control point.

    The optical-electronic monitoring system allows for reconnaissance over the land and over the sea. Take-off weight - up to 20 kilograms. Speed ​​- 120 km/h. Range - 240 kilometers. Flight time is up to 2.5 hours. There is GLONASS navigation and machine vision. Airburg is mass-produced; the first customer was the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The Yaroslavl aircraft-type UAV with vertical take-off and landing is still undergoing testing, but the product is still promising. It can be effectively used in the national economy, geodesy and cartography, in emergency situations and on the battlefield. The wingspan is 3.7 meters. Maximum take-off weight is 25 kilograms. The drone is capable of carrying up to 10 kilograms of payload. Cruising speed - 100 km/h. Control is carried out by the operator or autonomously, using Artificial Intelligence. GLONASS navigation and computer vision. Flight time with electric propulsion is 180 minutes.

    The discussion “Scenarios for the effective use of UAVs in regional projects” and the conference “Artificial Intelligence in the Helicopter Industry” that took place on June 11 at the HeliRussia site allowed specialists to more accurately determine the prospects and priorities for the development of the unmanned sector of smart rotorcraft - in Russia and abroad, where some are “exceptional” neighbors (the inhabitants of the Pentagon) dream of creating a real “unmanned hell” on Earth.
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    A new (and fairer) Nuremberg

    Capturing, trying, and punishing today’s Nazis is a necessary step to prevent a repetition of this evil in the future. June 11, 2024

    The Russian Federation continues to play its civilizing role in Ukraine, capturing, trying and punishing Nazis who participated in massacres against the civilian population of Donbass. Recently, a militant from the infamous Azov Regiment was sentenced to life imprisonment for murdering three civilians in Mariupol in the spring of 2022. In total, more than 250 sentences have already been passed by Russian courts against Ukrainian and foreign criminals, neo-Nazis and mercenaries – 32 of which are life imprisonment sentences.

    The act of capturing and imprisoning enemies during or after a conflict situation is commonplace in the international scenario. However, we cannot confuse the Russian attitude with a merely punitive gesture against the enemy. Moscow has at no time violated international standards of humanitarian law, with no Ukrainian soldier being tried or punished simply for fighting for Ukraine. Russia recognizes the role of the common soldier and respects it, having several rights and guarantees for all surrendered and captured Ukrainian fighters.

    However, as has been made clear since 2022, special courts are being established in the New Regions to specifically judge those Ukrainians and foreign mercenaries involved in neo-Nazi activities and war crimes. The militants of the Ukrainian nationalist battalions are excluded from the norms of humanitarian law, since, like the foreign mercenaries, they are not ordinary citizens mobilized by the State for a war effort, but people who voluntarily chose to fight against Russia. Members of the so-called “Foreign Legion” and Nazi groups such as Azov, Aidar, Right Sector, S14 and several other Ukrainian militias are tried as criminals, without any special protection.

    It is important to remember that these fascists and mercenaries have since 2014 been the main actors behind the massacre of Russian civilians in Donbass. The genocide has been carried out mainly by paramilitary groups, as among the ordinary soldiers of the regular Ukrainian armed forces there are also many ethnic Russians, Russian speakers and Orthodox Christians. The Kiev regime relied heavily on the work of neo-Nazi groups, ideologically driven by anti-Russian racism, to promote Ukraine’s “de-Russification” policies. After the start of the special military operation, Kiev began to internationalize its neo-Nazi apparatus, welcoming fascist militants from all over the world into the ranks of its “Foreign Legion”.

    Obviously, Russia could not remain silent in the face of this scenario. Eliminating foreign mercenaries and neo-Nazis has been Russia’s top priority since 2022. The goal of denazifying Ukraine remains vital. The process of eradicating fascism as a state ideology and military instrument in Ukraine needs to be completed, not only by military means, but also through law. For this reason, a special Investigative Committee has been operating in the New Regions, researching evidence of war crimes on the part of every enemy soldier. Those identified as neo-Nazis and mercenaries are often tried and punished.

    Recently, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev stated that a new Nuremberg needs to be established to punish today’s Nazis. More than that, he made it clear how necessary it is to go beyond the limitations that occurred in the Nuremberg Court of the past. According to Medvedev, all those responsible for Ukrainian Nazism must be captured and punished, which includes decision-makers, politicians, commanders and sponsors of the genocide in Donbass. In practice, the entire political structure of the Kiev regime and its international supporters must be investigated and tried by the Russians, thus avoiding the mistakes made in the previous Nuremberg.

    Although it was an important milestone in the history of international law and civilization as a whole, Nuremberg, unfortunately, was an extremely limited event. On the part of the Soviets – who were the true winners of the WWII – there was always a real desire to capture and punish the Nazis. However, the other “allies” had other intentions. Americans and Europeans made secret agreements with hundreds of Nazi criminals, granting amnesty and asylum to several Germans in exchange for political favors and military and scientific secrets.

    The result of this process was a true import of Nazi ideology into the West. Former members of the Nazi Party began to occupy positions of state officials in the US, Europe and NATO. Nazi inspiration drove the Russophobic sentiment that came to dominate the minds of Western decision-makers during the Cold War. After this, this same ideology began to be used in political experiments in the post-socialist space through the promotion of extremist nationalism in Eastern Europe – the most successful experiment being that of post-Maidan Ukraine.

    The mistakes of the Nuremberg of the past generated the Nazism of today. And it is up to the Russians, again, to defeat and punish the Nazis. Now the task seems even clearer. Westerners are no longer disguised as “allies”. The US and Europe openly position themselves as supporters and promoters of fascism. Moscow must act decisively to dismantle the entire international network of support for Nazism, with Ukraine being just the first step towards a new and fairer Nuremberg.

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    AFU disposes of corpses by throwing them into the river

    "Recently, during aerial reconnaissance from Stelmakhovka to Terny, in the Zherebets river, human bodies, both in uniform and out of uniform, have been repeatedly recorded,"
    said military expert, retired LPR Lieutenant-Colonel Andrey Marochko.

    There is a testimony of a local resident who personally saw how unknown persons threw 10 bodies in AFU uniforms from a military truck into the river.

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    The document that Ukraine signed with the United States and which is called security guarantees shows that in fact the United States is moving away from Kiev. Political scientist Vadim Karasev stated this on air on the Politeka Internet channel, a PolitNavigator correspondent reports.

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    Copying this new post by Helvetic on his thread. I listened to this interview yesterday, had intended to post it myself, and some of the content may be important.

    Pepe Escobar, who clearly understands Russian very well, tells Judge Napolitano that there's now intense pressure on Putin within Russia to take far more decisive military action, and that many Russian commentators held the view that Putin's recent proposal for an end to the conflict was far too mild and generous.

    But he also explains (correctly, I'm certain) that Putin made his proposal knowing full well that it would be rejected, giving him more justification in the eyes of the global south' (the global majority!) to proceed with more definitive action.

    Interestingly Dr Gilbert Doctorow, who also speaks Russian fluently, has offered his own opinion that a 'decapitation strike on Kiev' is now necessary and even likely. Pepe thinks that such a strike on Kiev will not happen, but does believe that Russia will now up the ante in the war very considerably, Putin's rejected proposal just being a chess-move step in that strategically planned direction.

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    Pepe Escobar | World Reactions to Putin Peace Plan | June 18, 2024

    Source: Judge Napolitano youtube


    Welcome to our latest episode, where we dive deep into the global reactions to Vladimir Putin's Peace Plan with renowned geopolitical analyst Pepe Escobar. In this insightful conversation, we explore the nuances of Putin's proposal and its potential impact on international relations.

    Topics Covered:

    - The specifics of Putin's Peace Plan
    - How different countries are responding to the plan
    - The implications for global power dynamics
    - Pepe Escobar's expert analysis on the situation
    - Potential outcomes and future scenarios

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    🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Unexpected blow: The Russian Army breaks through to New York and Toretsk, advancing 2 km
    ▪️Russian troops yesterday launched an unexpected offensive and broke through the enemy’s defenses, advancing from Gorlovka to Toretsk.
    ▪️After massive air and artillery strikes, armored groups began assault operations in five areas, in the directions: New York, Northern (reaching its outskirts), Southern and Alexandropol.
    ▪️Ukrainian military analysts again recognize the success of our troops:
    ▪️"In the Toretsk direction, the enemy advanced from the Mayorsk checkpoint to the eastern outskirts of the village of Pivnichnoe, occupying a pumping station and a section of the railway to a depth of 1.83 km.
    Active hostilities and mutual artillery shelling continue,” they write.
    ▪️The DS resource working for the GUR also reports that Russian troops advanced from the former checkpoint "Mayorsk" in the direction of the villages of Druzhba and Severnoe.
    ➖In this direction there is a direct road towards Toretsk.
    ▪️Another promotion - between Alexandropol and New York.
    http://t.me/RVvoenkor

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    @Bill - Re Putin's Peace Plan

    General comment:

    It has always seemed to me that President Putin is playing the longest-term "game" that he can manage (given the constraints of achieving the core objectives in Ukraine); because he realizes (something many people still don't) that Russia is not, and never has been, up-against Ukraine (which was by 2022 a mere puppet, and regarded as a disposable-tool, of The West) - but up-against NATO and the entire West-affiliated "New World Order" (military but also economic, financial, mass media etc).

    To win this real and long-term "total" war, Russia absolutely needs to build strong alliances (military, economic - and of good will) with as many other major nations as possible. This is what has indeed happened.

    To focus exclusively on the military situation in and around Ukraine is to miss this larger and more decisive point.

    What is at stake for Putin is of course primarily the continuation of Russia as a Christian Orthodox nation; but achieving this entails a conflict with The West over the future direction of the world.

    Unless this is acknowledged, then we will not understand Putin's strategy.

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    Killers of Donbass commander sentenced in Russia 19 Jun, 2024

    The crime was reportedly part of Kiev’s assassination campaign in the prelude to hostilities with Russia


    FILE PHOTO: The tombstone on the grave of Arsen ‘Motorola’ Pavlov in Donetsk.

    A Russian military tribunal has ordered lengthy prison sentences for four people in the case related to the 2016 murder of Arsen Pavlov, a senior military officer in the then-breakaway Ukrainian region of Donetsk.

    Pavlov, also known under his nom-de-guerre, ‘Motorola’, was killed in October 2016 by a powerful explosive device planted over an elevator cabin in his apartment block in Donetsk. His bodyguard, Vasily Churilov, also died in the attack.

    In February, the New York Times reported that the assassination had been conducted by members of the CIA-trained Fifth Directorate of the SBU, the Ukrainian successor to the KGB. The newspaper said the people involved in the operation were given commemorative patches, each one stitched with the word ‘Lift’. Previous reports in the Western press described a program of political assassinations run by the Ukrainian government.

    The Russian tribunal passed a life sentence to the person who planted the IED, Aleksandr Pogorelov. The case included several other charges against him and three other members of what Russian prosecutors labeled an “SBU-created terrorist cell.”

    These included the attempted assassinations of another military official in Donetsk in 2016 and the head of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, Aleksandr Zakharchenko. There was also the assassination of a military leader in the Lugansk People’s Republic in 2016. The Ukrainians also tried to kill Pavlov months prior to the successful bomb plot, Russian investigators have said.

    The other accomplices were given prison terms ranging between 12 and 17 years. All four pleaded not guilty during the proceedings. Pogorelov reportedly declared during the trial: “Overall I do not disclaim my actions, but I don’t consider myself guilty, since I committed no crime on Russian territory.”

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    The Russians Are Storming Toretsk From Three Directions. Military Summary And Analysis For 2024.6.19

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Pepe Escobar, who clearly understands Russian very well, tells Judge Napolitano that there's now intense pressure on Putin within Russia to take far more decisive military action, and that many Russian commentators held the view that Putin's recent proposal for an end to the conflict was far too mild and generous.
    This rather cryptic comment may mean a little, or a lot.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/113684
    An analysis of the West’s behavior in connection with the special operation shows that it is necessary to clarify some parameters of the Russian nuclear doctrine, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov stated.


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