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    Makhachkala situation continues:



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    https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1804944490018279487

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    https://x.com/adeelriaz1991/status/1804946288581935614

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    ‼️🇷🇺 JUST IN: No hostage situation in Makhachkala church - #Dagestan Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    The department has denied earlier reports about 40 hostages who were allegedly being held in a church in Makhachkala.

    “There is no talk of any hostages! 19 people locked themselves indoors for their own safety. They are no longer in danger, this territory is protected!"

    #Dagestan #terrorists

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    The guard of the Holy Dormition Cathedral in Makhachkala sacrificed himself, but did not allow armed terrorists into the temple

    At that moment, a service was going on in the Holy Assumption Cathedral. There were 40 to 50 people inside. A security guard named Mikhail met the terrorists only with a gas pistol in his hands. He died, but the people inside the temple managed to barricade themselves.

    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1804924753280463043

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    ❗️40 hostages are locked in an Orthodox church in the Kirovsky district of Makhachkala. Armed militants are battling Russian security forces on the streets.
    QUICK UPDATE here via Telegram:
    🇷🇺 The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Dagestan has refuted RIA Novosti's information that there are hostages in the church in Makhachkala.

    According to the ministry's information, there is a shootout near the church, but the assault has not started yet.

    Inside the church in Makhachkala, 19 people had barricaded themselves to ensure their own safety; they are now out of danger. The police of Dagestan reported that there were no hostages.
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    ❗️ Unknown gunmen opened fire at a police vehicle on a town square in the village of Sergokala in the Russian Republic of Dagestan, the press service of the Dagestan Interior Ministry reported.

    One officer was wounded, according to preliminary information.

    The town is 65 kilometers south of the city of Makhachkala, where today's terrorist attack took place.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1804956570339668423

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    For anyone who's trying to piece together all the reports coming out of Russia right now, this might be a helpful summary. There were several different fairly major incidents in different locations, all synchronized to start at the same time. That alone suggests quite some degree of sophisticated planning.

    https://t.me/AussieCossack/18805

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    ~~~
    On the attack by militants in the North Caucasus
    what is known by the end of June 23, 2024

    The celebration of one of the most revered Orthodox holidays - Trinity Sunday - was overshadowed not only by the impact of a cluster missile on a beach in Sevastopol, but also by a series of terrorist attacks in the Caucasus region.
    • In the evening, militants carried out a series of attacks in the Republic of Dagestan. In Derbent, shooting was opened in the area of the Intercession of the Most Holy Theotokos church and the Kele-Numaz synagogue building was set on fire. Meanwhile, in Makhachkala, at about the same time, unknown persons opened fire on a traffic police post, and then carried out a series of attacks in the northwest of the city, including in the vicinity of the Cathedral of the Assumption of the Most Holy Theotokos.
    • According to the latest data from the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs, nine people were killed, including seven police officers, and another 25 were injured. The Internet is widely discussing the death at the hands of terrorists of the rector of the Church of the Intercession of the Most Holy Theotokos, Archpriest Nikolai Kotelnikov.
    • It is known about the elimination of two militants, as well as the detention of two men on the beach of Makhachkala - according to preliminary information, they may be associated with the attackers. At the same time, the regional media note that the eliminated participants in the attack may be the sons of the head of one of the territorial entities of the republic.
    • At the moment, a counter-terrorist operation regime is in effect in Dagestan. According to unconfirmed information, law enforcement officers are fighting with the remaining militants still alive in the area of the "Khayyal" restaurant near the Kele-Numaz synagogue in Derbent, as well as in the vicinity of the Cathedral of the Assumption of the Most Holy Theotokos in Makhachkala. The Internet is spreading various information about 40 hostages of militants in a school, but it is not confirmed by law enforcement.
    • Other shooting incidents occurred in neighboring Abkhazia. Shooting was recorded at the border checkpoint Psou and in the area of New Athos: one person was killed, four were injured. According to one version, the reason for the shooting was a conflict of business interests.
    Of course, one can call all this something from the realm of conspiracy theory, but there are several points in the attack on the North Caucasus that indicate clear and rather good preparation of the terrorists.

    The very first thing that comes to mind is time. It all started almost simultaneously, which indicates the coordination of the actions of the groups either with each other or through curators (which is most likely).

    Second is the tactics of the militants' actions, which Spetsnaz Archangel rightly drew attention to. The way they attacked police posts, how they handled weapons and used surrounding objects for cover - ordinary bearded men are not capable of this.

    And the most important thing is that in today's events, the date is the key moment. That the Ukrainian formations struck on Trinity Sunday.
    ~~~


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    The head of Russian Dagestan's Sergokala district, Magomed Omarov, whose sons may have been involved in the terrorist attacks, is being interrogated, a source in the republic's law enforcement agencies told Sputnik.

    "Magomed Omarov has been detained and is under interrogation; according to preliminary information his sons were among the militants who carried out the terrorist attacks," the source said.

    A Sputnik source in the republic's leadership said Omarov would be removed from his position.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1804966272607613045

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    The total number of people injured after a Ukrainian missile attack on the Russian city of Sevastopol has increased to 151, with 82 of them remaining hospitalized, the city's governor Mikhail Razvozhayev said.

    Previously it was reported that 144 people suffered injuries of varying severity, with 82 of them hospitalized (55 adults and 27 children). Four people have died.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1804974729536978967

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    🇺🇸🇬🇧⚔️🇷🇺✡️☦️☪️Monument to the brotherhood of three religions, installed on a pedestrian street in the center of Derbent - a rabbi, a bishop and a mullah

    It was sculpted from living originals, with Father Nikolai Kotelnikov, who died today, in the center.

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    🇷🇺 The Ukrainian attack on Sevastopol represents a ritual crime , said Maria Zakharova.

    " The Day of the Holy Trinity was not chosen by chance ," added the spokeswoman of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    ▪️She pointed out that Ukrainian forces deliberately choose places of mass gatherings for shelling.

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    ❗️🇷🇺🏴 On militant attacks in the North Caucasus
    what is known by the end of June 23, 2024

    The celebration of one of the most revered Orthodox holidays, Holy Trinity Day, was marred not only by a cluster missile hitting a beach in Sevastopol, but also by a series of terrorist attacks in the Caucasus region.

    ▪️In the evening, militants staged a series of attacks in the Republic of Dagestan. In Derbent, gunfire was opened near the Church of the Intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the building of the Kele-Numaz synagogue was set on fire. Meanwhile, in Makhachkala, at about the same time, unknown people fired at a traffic police post and then staged a series of attacks in the northwest of the city, including in the vicinity of the Cathedral of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
    ▪️According to the latest data from the region's Interior Ministry, nine people were killed, including seven police officers, and another 25 were injured. The death at the hands of terrorists of Archpriest Nikolai Kotelnikov, rector of the Church of the Protection of the Most Holy Mother of God, is widely discussed online.

    https://x.com/rybar_force/status/1804982977199566850

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    No surprises now if the Russians start to shoot down the US reconnaissance drones over the Black Sea, even over 'international waters'. They could easily do this if they chose to, and Putin might now be under significant internal pressure to order just that.


    Let's do the math. Use of missiles with a 300+ km range means that at a minimum, the border of Ukraine will be shoved back 500 km from where we will be saying it was.

    That's the equation. It's just "equal". Different ways of expressing the number one. Everybody knows this. You see what happened. You know the consequences.

    The Black Sea is a slightly different issue. Not sure how that will go. But I am even less sure how the U. S. will be able to justify its actions, except to the United Kingdom.

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    "Do you know why we haven't won yet? Because Russians are stupid and Ukrainians are Russians," she said.


    This counts as naked propaganda because it hasn't any rhetoric to back it up. There isn't a fact that can be used for the assertion, let alone a pile of them so you can hide something weird.

    Meanwhile, the article questioning The American strategy of apparent "escalation" here got the terms "dumb" and "stupid" stuck to it, which seem to be supported by *all* the facts.

    There's no "reason" going on here, it is "stupid" or "crazy" or both, take your pick.

    Ukrainians are Russians. I'll take that with me for my Nazi 201 semester in Lviv, everyone will revel in that intelligent information.


    One reason the terroristic attempts are incapable of success is because, when you do it, Russians just get more Russianer. It is like attacking Hamas only makes more Hamas.

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    Of if you have in mind some other clause, that is an even more direct commitment to corporatocracy, as well you might be, I'd be quite interested to learn of it.

    The Constitution of Germany:


    Article 88. [The Federal Bank - The European Central Bank]

    The Federation shall establish a note-issuing and currency bank as the Federal Bank. ...

    This is a birthright constitution, if you are born German, you are its property, ergo your federal finances have just been wholly surrendered. Anybody vote for this?

    Again, in perspective, World War One era is to dismember Austria's Central Bank--the potential rival power-- while unifying the German state under the Reichsbank. ...
    Excellent reply. Thank-you.

    Your understanding of European Banking fits like a glove with my view of the U.S. banking and its history over the last 100+ years.

    The Banksters have been playing a Grand Game of Chess with our world's monetary system, moving their debt-money banking laws and institutions to dominate our civilization.

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    Here is a little essay that I just finished writing for a personal friend, but a few minutes ago, before seeing your above response here, presenting how this Banksters debt-money based Grand Game of Chess has been played, as viewed from my side of the pond:

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    A key financial/monetary question to which I am still seeking answers:

    When the US Federal Reserve Debt-Dollar system collapses, will it be an inflationary or deflationary collapse?

    (1) Will the Fed "print" dollars to infinity, causing the dollar denominated value of everything to rise, as in the Wiemar Republic's hyperinflation, or

    (2) Will the Fed further tighten dollar generation, by further restricting lending, causing massive foreclosure, confiscation and repossession in bankruptcy of all debt-leveraged assets and massive banking collapse, further centralizing banking to the likes of JP Morgan Chase and a chosen few?

    Now that I ask that question, in just the above terms ... the answer seems clear. It depends on whether the Banksters or the White Hats, prevail.

    If it is the Banksters controlling the outcome, they will NOT choose Wiemar hyperinflation. Rather the Banksters would choose a Greater Depression, as in the U.S. Depression of the 1930's, in the "Western" countries at least.

    The hyperinflation of Wiemar setup the stunningly rebirth of Germany economy and expansion of its military (as argued in such articles as [*]). This was essential to setup Round II of the two "great wars", which was the Chaos out of which the Order of the post World War II dominance of the Federal Reserve over the world's debt-money system arose. Thus is how the Masters of Chaos manifest ORDO AB CHAO, in accordance with the Hegelian Dialect.

    The Great Depression in the U.S. in the 1930's forced centralization of the U.S. monetary system by collapsing the value of the core real estate, stock and bond assets of many smaller banks and businesses, increasing the dominance of the Federal Reserve Debt-Dollar, first over the United States' governments, corporations, and banking system, and then over the world's.

    The Banksters seek to preserve, protect and defend debt-money, world-wide. It has long been one of their most powerful and favored tools to control humanity.

    If the BRICS nations and the western White Hats are as honest and (covertly) powerful as we (or at least I) hope, the Banksters are being setup up for the Failure to end all Failures. The current Fed, and the current incorporated federal government and major corporations that they control, must fail, as part of this. Some other outcome than further centralized debt-money control over all of us must arise.

    May we all live long enough to witness such an outcome, and may our descendants not live only to regret the outcome.

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    [*]: [Spoils of War] -- The Political Legacy of the German hyperinflation
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