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    More EU statements on 14th package of sanctions against Russia:

    ◾️ EU bans union's media, political parties and analytical organizations from accepting funds from Russian sources;

    ◾️ EU imposes sanctions against 'shadow fleet' of Russia, targeting 27 vessels;

    ◾️ EU introduces restrictions on use of the union’s infrastructure for re-export of LNG from Russia;

    ◾️ EU imposes sanctions against companies from China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkey, UAE for allegedly circumventing restrictions on Russia;

    ◾️ EU council obliges European companies to ensure that their partners in third countries do not violate European sanctions.


    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1805139104830472370

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    The EU decision to send the proceeds from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine bypassing Hungary's opinion is a shameless violation of red lines, the country's foreign minister Peter Szijjarto has said.

    EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said earlier that EU legislation allegedly allows the bloc to make such a decision even if some members of the association do not agree with it.

    https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1805228127011975678

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    ‘Worst five years in the history of the EU’: Orban says von der Leyen must go

    Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has called for Ursula von der Leyen to be replaced as president of the European Commission (EC), describing the past five years as the worst in the EU's history.

    When asked why he was preventing von der Leyen from being appointed to a second term, Orban replied: "Due to her lack of efficiency. The green transformation has been a complete failure of management, and the migration package does not solve the problem."

    "Europe needs more effective leadership. There are plenty of talented politicians who can provide it," the prime minister said in an interview with German media group Funke.

    "The last five years have probably been the worst five years in the history of the EU. The achievements of the European Commission and the Brussels elite are weak," Orban maintained.

    The Hungarian Prime Minister also noted that the results of the European Parliament elections demonstrated a clear desire for change in Brussels.

    On March 7, von der Leyen was nominated as a candidate to head the European Commission at the European People's Party congress in Bucharest.

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    An excellent and detailed discussion about what the heck might happen next.

    There are a zillion videos for people to listen to right now, and this is just one more. So I'll do my best at a VERY concise summary of the discussion points.
    • Many in Russia are extremely angry at recent events, and there's increasing pressure on Putin to take more decisive, stronger action.
    • There are reports circulating in Russia, not yet confirmed, that the target of the 5 ATACMs missiles, 4 of which were shot down but one of which was knocked off course by Russian missile defense and which then exploded its cluster munitions over the Sevastopol beach, was a Cathedral. Remember this all happened, including the other attacks on the same day, on Trinity Sunday.)
    • That might be the very intention of the US/EU: for the many Russian hardliners to put so much pressure on Putin (who is a moderate) that Putin has little choice than to act in ways that may be not reflect his own best judgement.
    • But having said that, it's likely that such a plan would not work, as Russia has a deeply ingrained, generations-old societal stoicism that equips their people very well to tolerate enormous pressures, both personal and otherwise. The more Russia is attacked, the more cohesively defiant the people become. It's hard-wired in their DNA.
    • There are many who want to see the Russian air force taking out the US drones over the Black Sea, without which the Ukrainian missile attacks (many on civilians) would not be functional.
    • However, the dilemma there is that if the Russians shot down an unmanned vehicle, what would happen if the US replaced the Global Hawks with manned aircraft? And should the Russians also shoot down the large, manned US/EU AWACs?
    • Another option, rather than starting to shoot down the US drones (e.g. Global Hawks), would be to declare the Black Sea a no-fly zone. The Russians have never ever done such a thing — although the US has, many times. The problem there is the possible international (global majority) response to Russia declaring a no-fly zone over what are legally recognized international waters.
    • Having said all this, Russia might simply respond (as it has already strongly hinted it might do) by arming proxies all over the world which consider themselves to be enemies of the US.
    • That would be almost equally dangerous, if one considers the Houthis in Yemen maybe being given Zircon hypersonic missiles that could easily sink a US aircraft carrier — or the same being given to Hezbollah in Lebanon.
    Crimea attack: one step closer to US-Russia war

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    Maria Zakharova, 24 June

    ⚡️During a conversation at the Foreign Ministry on June 24 with the summoned head of the US diplomatic mission in Russia, Litaire Tracy, she was demarched in connection with a new bloody crime committed by the Kiev regime, which is under Washington's tutelage and armed, and which inflicted a deliberate act accompanied by numerous victims, including children, a missile attack on the civilian population of Sevastopol.

    It was emphasised that the United States, which is waging a hybrid war against Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict, supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the most modern weapons, including ATACMS missiles with cluster warheads used against the residents of Sevastopol, whose targeting and flight missions are carried out by US military specialists, bears equal responsibility for this atrocity with the Kiev regime.

    ❗️ The ambassador was told that such actions by Washington, aimed at encouraging the pro-Nazi authorities of Ukraine to continue hostilities until the "last Ukrainian" by issuing permission to strike deep into Russian territory, will not go unpunished.

    Retaliatory measures will definitely follow.

    👉https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1958806/
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    https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1805336395600511057



    https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1805332427914854472



    https://x.com/runews/status/1805329606507118606



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    • Piers Morgan Gets SCHOOLED Like A Child On Ukraine By Jeffrey Sachs!

    A 10 year old would understand that Russia would not accept NATO placing Nuclear weapons in Ukraine, it appears to be something Morgan cannot grasp.
    • 7:12 Having a "beLIEf" does NOT require evidence based proof that can be verified through multiple independent sources ... That is why they want you to stay on the "believe" level ... So many blindly trusting (or hiding behind) "authorities" claims is WHY we all are in a real big mess >>> slowly turning to a global dystopian horror show run by over the top psychopathic control freaks of the pathetic unelected parasite class.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    If it is the Banksters controlling the outcome, they will NOT choose Wiemar hyperinflation. Rather the Banksters would choose a Greater Depression, as in the U.S. Depression of the 1930's, in the "Western" countries at least.


    Yes, exactly.

    Consider this to be a rigged manipulation, one in which little banksters get eaten in a shark tank.

    There were several, previously, about three in the late 1800s which were also centralizing in nature and used to justify the opening of the Federal Reserve. Riding on the coattails of Lincoln's Empire which is to say a permanent National Bank in the position of using Treasury Certificates with the government, placing it in a role that effectively mirrors the Bank of England.

    Then if you look in the Clinton Era for instance you find the same Chase/Morgan institutions roughly devouring Travelers' Group and leading to the newer Citigroup and the repeal of Glass-Steagall which had been one of the *only* effective legislations that actually restrained the free will of financiers.


    It seems to me one of the best ways of understanding it is simply the Federal Reserve's own website. They openly confess a great number of what I personally would consider moral issues to oppose, in dealing with the history of U. S. central banks.

    I would also have to say that there has been awareness of and resistance to what may have originally been described in broader terms such as Money Power at least since the 1700s. In earlier times, there were simply no laws favoring them, and we can watch it completely turning around like falling dominoes.

    We could probably say it was a screaming argument in America all through the nineteenth century; once defeated, slowly fading away.

    It is dreadful because now it affects almost all countries at the Constitutional level. So when things happen like in Niger, that is about the only way you can really handle it.

    BRICS countries thrive on entrepreneurs and of course people *do* get rich, but financing and such does not really work the same way as we know it. Because we are, I guess, addicted to Petrodollars, I guess we will simply be shown an alternative rather than figuring it out.

    And we have to keep in mind we are surrounded by millions who would toss out these points as worthless dust.

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    Update: Russian revenge!! Reports are coming out that Russian air defense forces shot down an American RQ-4 Global Hawk, a $100 million dollar drone over the Black Sea!!!
    About time, in my view.
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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    I would also have to say that there has been awareness of and resistance to what may have originally been described in broader terms such as Money Power at least since the 1700s. ...

    We could probably say it was a screaming argument in America all through the nineteenth century
    Though I doubt the "Jackson" side of my ancestry is related to Andrew Jackson, President from 1829 to 1837, as those ancestors of mine came over in the time of the Irish Potato Famine, circa 1850, I still bear that name "Jackson" proudly. President Jackson did his part to briefly stem the rise of Bankster debt-money over Constitutional coinage.

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    And we have to keep in mind we are surrounded by millions who would toss out these points as worthless dust.
    ... a dust they can little more see than they can see a virus ... providing charlatan whores fine opportunities for lucrative employment as "experts", spouting the propaganda of the day.
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    Interesting, although I don't know exactly when this was filmed, but it's been published today and may refer to an earlier one of a few Russian missile strikes that independent media channels have reported on:

    Petro Poroshenko confirms Russian cruise missiles destroyed a NATO training centre



    X source: "So here we have former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko saying that NATO had a training base in Ukraine (which Poroshenko had built) until Russia destroyed it. This is something the western mainstream media should be telling you. But they won't....
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    So, the usual drivel spewing forth from a Ukrainian journalist who is in no uncertain terms handled extraordinarily deftly by Nebenzia one of many class acts in the Russian administration

    Source: Simplicius on X

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    Diana Panchenko again truth bombing the Ukrainian 'government', such as it is. I commend her bravery, and she is brave

    Address to all Global Media

    Duration: 6 minutes

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    Given the recent footage of the (unconfirmed) Allied Special Forces attack in Dagestan,how likely is it that there are troops from other countries (BRICS?) already fighting with Russia too, and if so who? Belarus certainly but others . . .? Very hypocritical of the West to consider themselves honorary Ukrainians when on-the-ground aid from China would be viewed as grounds for escalation.
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    Question Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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    Does anyone know when it happened and where exactly?
    • Because there are military flight logs publicly available NO JOKE .... just look here.
    Having access to military flight-radar logs like this click on "U" button on the top (first button, to toggle between all planes & military planes) click on "replay" button right side on lowest button! ... So that you can see if anything was near or present on that spot (time & location needed, of course!).

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    Unhappy Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    • Nukes do most of their damage by starting fires?


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