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    Default Does Israel use Blackmail to Accomplish its Political Agenda?

    How has Israel, a tiny nation (0.1 % of the world's population and 0.5% of its GDP) whose policies are extremely unpopular and often despised by the majority of nations and peoples on our planet, wielded so much power, and gotten away with such barbaric actions in an age where super powers intervene and cause regime change "for humanitarian reasons?" Israel which has been committing crimes against it's Palestinian citizens for decades, and now those crimes have escalated into what is clearly an unrelenting genocide. But instead of getting sanctions, invasion, regime change, etc., Israel remains the largest source of U.S. financial support, having received over $260 billion from the United States since World War II.

    How is it that in 1967 Israeli war planes opened fire on an unarmed U S Naval spy ship, killing 34 Americans and wounding 177, and obviously intended to kill every one on the boat, without any type of retaliation by the U.S.A? If any other nation in the world had dared to do such a thing, the United States would have bombed the nation to back into the stone age. (If you doubt that this incident ever happened or was just a "fog of war" incident, please see this excellent authoritative video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx72tAWVcoM )

    How is it that the mainstream media can report fake stories about Hamas beheading babies and raping woman, but can not bring itself to do justice by telling the world of the massive atrocities that have been brought about by Israel in the last 70 years, especially now with Israel killing Palestinian children at the rate of one every 15 minutes? How is it that the mainstream media can report on atrocities in so many small counties when millionaires have a vested interested in causing regime change in those nations and raiding it's assets and turning it into a debt slave state by way of "humanitarian loans" from the world bank, but they completely ignore the evil actions of Israel?

    How is it that up until recently, no American politician who championed human rights for Palestinians could get elected and even now if they do, they will be censored by both Capitol Hill and the main stream media for "anti-semisim" if they articulate that belief too strongly?

    There are many legitimate (but arguably so) reasons one might support Israel including the long history of antisemitism in Western Civilization (from ancient Egypt and Rome up to the Nazi Holocaust), to the idea of Jewish exceptionalism (e.g. "Jews have won 25% of all Nobel Prizes, but they are 0.2% of the world's population"), to interpretations of the Bible that demonstrate (to some fundamentalists) that Jerusalem and environs should be returned to Jewish control and a temple rebuilt.

    There is also other reasons why powerful organizations have put the Zionist agenda ahead of the agenda of basic human decency: organizations like AIPAC giving tremendous amounts of money to influence elections, the six (or seven) companies that dominate American media having Zionist leadership, the influential and wealthy college alumni who have expressed their refusal to donate money to colleges who allow pro-Palestinian rallies and do not quash intelligent debate about what Israel is doing.

    Nevertheless, the degree to which politicians, media moguls and university presidents have gotten away with favoring Zionist expansion interests while ignoring the basic human rights of Palestinian seems unfathomable and leaves one to wonder if something else is going on, namely:

    Blackmail.

    There is no smoking gun on this one, but there are many reasons to think that a COINTELPRO like network is operating to collect damaging information on people in positions of power and use this information to control them. Jeffrey Epsteins and Ghislaine Maxwell's network traces back connections to the Mossad and Israel and clearly Epstein had filmed many powerful people in compromising poses. Whitney Webb has does excellent work showing how this network connects back to J. Edgar Hoover's (FBI director) COINTELPRO program and how Hoover himself was probably a victim of black mail. This same network originated the international arms smuggling network namely to bring weapons to Israelis who were frustrated they they could not buy enough Palestinian land, and needed to exterminate the non-Jewish peoples who were living there.


    Whitney Webb and her two monumental books.

    But Whitney is only one of many people to claim the blackmail plays a huge role in a huge conspiracy while includes blackmail as one of its many crimes.

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    Norm Finkelstein is interviewed by Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinski about Israel. Around the 50 minutes mark, Norm discusses the ICC, the International Criminal Court, which has for years indicted only African dictators (until recently it went after Putin) while ignoring the War Crimes of powerful nations, including those of Israel. The ICC has been presented with an overwhelming preponderance of information from organizations operating in Palestine showing the war crimes are clearly happening and with great frequency, however, the reports from ICC judges only reflect the documentation submitted by Israel. Norm speculates that there may be a reason for this: blackmail. Although, since the crime of blackmail is committed behind closed doors, we do not yet have the smoking gun. He discusses specific ICC prosecutors and other officials: Fatou Bensouda, Julia Sebutinde and Karim Khan.


    He also discusses Richard Goldstone, a South African judge, a Jew, and a Zionist who thoroughly investigate war crimes in Gaza and ruled that Isreal was conducting massive war crimes. Then, 2 years leader, he mysteriously reversed his opinion based on "new information" although no one seems to know what that new information is.

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    great thread - and unless I missed it that's without even mentioning the Mossad involvement in and foreknowledge of 9/11, which has been well-proved as far as I am concerned.
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    Default Re: Does Israel use Blackmail to Accomplish its Political Agenda?

    Jeffrey Epstein clearly owned this painting by Petrina Ryan-Kleid, painted in 2012 and had it on display in his New York townhouse for all his visitors to see:


    He may have also owned this painting, also by Ryan-Kleid and also from 2012. If he did own it, it is not clear whether or not it was on display:


    What does that say to his visitors, especially the first one? On first glance, it is amusing and entertaining, but that is the distraction from the real point of the painting. At a deeper level what it says to his visitors, at a subconscious level, is:

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    I am Jeffrey Epstein and I own these paintings of very powerful people. They are seen here in compromised positions, which show to the world just how corrupt they are, and which they don't want the world to see. And I own information that shows just how corrupt they are. And I also own information about you too, that shows just how compromised and corrupt you are. Therefore, I own you as well.
    Epstein was extremely wealthy, yet no one could explain the source of his wealth. Yet his ownership and display of the paintings gives it all away: he was in the blackmail business.
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    https://archive.org/details/pdfy-fkyMnNzkeT5fzxTg
    By Way of Deception is a non-fiction book written by Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad officer, and Claire Hoy. The book is a chronicle of Ostrovsky’s experiences in the Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, and his revelations about the agency’s covert activities around the world.

    Synopsis

    The book is divided into two main parts: the first part focuses on Ostrovsky’s recruitment, training, and early years in the Mossad, while the second part delves into his experiences as a case officer and his eventual disillusionment with the agency’s tactics and morals.

    Key Points

    The Mossad’s motto is “By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War,” which reflects the agency’s willingness to use deception and manipulation to achieve its goals.
    Ostrovsky claims that the Mossad has engaged in various illegal activities, including drug trafficking, to finance its operations.
    He also alleges that the agency has been involved in the assassination of several individuals, including a PLO diplomat, and has manipulated world events to suit its own interests.
    Ostrovsky’s experiences in the Mossad led him to question the agency’s moral compass and its willingness to compromise its values for the sake of national security.


    I stumbled upon one interesting post which is now deleted. Luckily i saved it.
    https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comm...nts_about_the/


    I had access to classified documents about the Jeffrey Epstein case. Ask me anything!


    I can't give much information about me. For security reasons.

    I was able to have first hand access to the Jeffrey Epstein case investigation documents.
    According to the documents, Epstein was the head of a global fraternity related to the Shriners called The Royal Order of Jesters

    This order is covered with scandals and lawsuits related to human trafficking, but they are very protected. because many members of the order are high-profile political figures and business men.
    They are so well protected that they are able to erase their tracks and file huge lawsuits against the media outlets that once in a while comment on their scandals.

    You can find little information on the internet about those scandals because most of the info gets erased and covered.

    Here are few cases that manage to make the news:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200905070...ry/660251.html



    These people are extremely powerful, we are talking about state Judges, lawyers, senators and policemen.
    They are extremely dangerous too, because they possess huge amounts of resources. They operate globally, and when I say globally, I mean they have several headquarters all around the world, dozens of headquarters in a single city, county or town, all around the world.

    Former Erie County Sheriff’s Deputy Sentenced for Failing to Report Jester Prostitution in Canada
    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/bu...tion-in-canada

    They own real estate, casinos, hotels, clubs.... and here comes the worst part of it, they own schools, universities and children hospitals

    Now comes the dirty part, The Shriners are famous for owning several Children Hospitals all around the world, specially in poor countries. According to the documents, The Shriners Hospitals is where they obtain all the children for sex trafficking, they use the hospitals as a cover-up to have direct access to children.

    The operation works like this, their main focus are children from low-income backgrounds, orphans, or children with mental disabilities.
    https://ibb.co/9sXXHLJ

    They engage with the children, they cover all the medical expenses, they pay for their treatments and therapy, all of this while receiving the applause of the community which have no idea what really happens behind all of this social labour.

    Full court document of Order of the Jesters case
    https://www.scribd.com/document/1099...harge-6-7-2010

    Many of the doctors and staff of the hospitals are members of the Order of Jesters, they dismiss children they find not appropriate for the order.
    These children usually have to follow certain criteria to being dismissed and treated as LOW PRIORITY in the hospitals, the criteria is:
    If they have Good Parents,
    Good Familes,
    Good background,
    or just too "old", they are considered risky and are discarded after all the treatments are done....

    Now the other children, what they call POTENTIALS, are children who are completely orphan, or have "problematic parents"... which means, parents who are into drugs, no job, single mothers, single dads, dysfunctional families.
    They pick these children for what they call SPECIAL SUPPORT, which include constant following and tracking of the kid.
    Now this is apparently where Ghislaine Maxwell comes into play, she was an agent of the Order of Jesters and Her job was to approach these children and act as a social worker, keeping track of the kid, helping their parents.

    She ran an special Youth Club supported by The Shriners, in these youth clubs, under the veil of Group Therapy and Education, she trained vulnerable children and teens to have an independent and successful life, taught them about finance, economy, and work-life.
    These youth clubs sponsored by The Shriners is where Jeffery Epstein got his special underage Maids and Massage assistants.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/shrin...inner-1.290724

    Jeffrey Epstein was the headmaster of the Royal Order of Jesters, he ran the whole show, the whole industry from the comforts of his many mansions, throughout years, decades. and The Royal order of Jesters is nothing new, they been doing this since the 1920's, before Epstein was even born, which means this organization works as a legacy organization with inheritance membership.

    There are tons of people involved in this, there is so much secrecy surrounding all of this, that's why I urge you to ask questions, because I can't fill it all up in one post... this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    There is more, many famous names are involved.
    You see, the Royal Order of Jesters has their origins on the Shriners. Now, The Shriners have their origins on Freemasonry, which in turn have their origins in Jesuit Orders.
    This investigation is currently on going, and the reason for me to disclose this is because I want you to help find more stuff so these people can be brought to Justice for all their crimes.
    There are piles and piles of documents, you can't even imagine, so much dirty stuff, so much disturbing stuff. It is crazy how these people manage to operate under the radar for so many years, decades... Now you may ask how they do this?
    ... Easy
    ......
    By using blackmail tactics, they manage to have Judges and Law Enforcement licking their feet.
    That's how Jeffery Epstein got assassinated. After he was out of the game, the whole business is run by other people. Major names are involved and many high-profile people who are all bound to the order by means of Blackmail.
    https://ibb.co/SR3pvL6

    This is particularly disturbing when you find out that the cases of Catholic priests involved in sex scandals are events organized by The Order of Jesters.
    They run blackmail operations with the purpose of seducing people in power.
    Epstein carried these operations on his island, inviting powerful people and then getting them drunk, unleashing filming the whole thing, with Maxwell's kids as accomplices.
    With those videos in their power, the careers of many people are in the Jester's hands.
    They are free to do anything, nobody is going to risk their status by speaking out against them.

    Since this investigation started, many of this information on the Jesters was lost, which is the reason why I think there is infiltrated members into the research team.
    That's why I encourage you, please help us investigate further, gather as much information as you can, we can do this together, we can stop these crimes and this madness and bring those people to justice.


    Article about state Finance Secretary Preston Doerflinger and his connection to the Order of Jesters
    https://www.readfrontier.org/stories...ub-since-2010/

    Dallas morning news article about Order of Jesters in Brazil
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2010...-or-fish-tale/

    Shriners and Royal order of Jesters are both closely tied to B'nai B'rith (freemason lodge for jews only).

    Who Are The Royal Order of Jesters?
    Uncovering a Police-Driven, International Sex Trafficking Ring that Actually Happened
    https://medium.com/@HeapingHelping/w...s-55ffe6f6acea

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    https://archive.org/details/pdfy-fkyMnNzkeT5fzxTg
    By Way of Deception is a non-fiction book written by Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad officer, and Claire Hoy. The book is a chronicle of Ostrovsky’s experiences in the Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, and his revelations about the agency’s covert activities around the world.
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    You see, the Royal Order of Jesters has their origins on the Shriners. Now, The Shriners have their origins on Freemasonry, which in turn have their origins in Jesuit Orders.

    That may be closer to an explanation.

    When you think "hospitals", it is far from just "Shriners", it's the Catholics.

    The Jesuits have has a hand in *all* modern medicine, whereas Shriners are a relatively recent development.

    It might be fair to say that Jesuits are involved with right wing death squads via "Americares" in places like Guatemala, so, this is a slightly different setup and appearance than the Zionist regime, to run a similar process.

    Israel and Zionism per se, are nothing much other than the lapdog of British Christianity.

    Once you start tacking on trafficking organizations, you can fold in the Boy Scouts, Disneyland...at the end of the day, I am not sure what is exempt...

    With Blackmail, it is hard to be more obvious than the U. S. Legislature threatening "sanctions" on foreign judges and voting to press it, before, even, the case or warrants have been started. But, yes, it goes on everywhere, on all kinds of levels.

    It is my current view that the repetitive monologue of Zionistic "deception" and thought control--under the name, Stupid--has been seen through by every other kind of populace, will be ignored and dismissed by them, and non-thinking westerners who follow it will never be taken seriously again, probably will have a difficult time playing in the global sandbox.


    As for cleaning the garbage minds that behold it as a cherished spectacle, I am not sure that is even possible.

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    You like to blame jesuits but that also is another zio-jewish organisation ...
    British are controlled by zionists not other way around.
    Loyola (Inigo Lopez de Regalde), who was of Jewish blood, was born
    in the 1490s. In 1534, he founded his own order - the Jesuits - taking out
    a loan for the purpose. The Pope acknowledged the Jesuit Order on the 5th of April 1540.
    Benjamin Disraeli, author and prime minister of Great Britain in 1868, and 1874-76, himself a Jew, wrote in his book "Coningsby" (London, 1844) that the first Jesuits were Jews. In this new order, all members were under Loyola's surveillance.
    It was the Jewish Jesuit Cardinal Roberto Bellarmino (1542-1621) who ordered the philosopher Filippo Giordano Bruno burnt at the stake on the 17th of February 1600.

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    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?50357-Jaak
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    You like to blame jesuits but that also is another zio-jewish organisation ...
    British are controlled by zionists not other way around.
    Loyola (Inigo Lopez de Regalde), who was of Jewish blood, was born
    in the 1490s. In 1534, he founded his own order - the Jesuits - taking out
    a loan for the purpose. The Pope acknowledged the Jesuit Order on the 5th of April 1540.
    Benjamin Disraeli, author and prime minister of Great Britain in 1868, and 1874-76, himself a Jew, wrote in his book "Coningsby" (London, 1844) that the first Jesuits were Jews. In this new order, all members were under Loyola's surveillance.
    It was the Jewish Jesuit Cardinal Roberto Bellarmino (1542-1621) who ordered the philosopher Filippo Giordano Bruno burnt at the stake on the 17th of February 1600.
    You post has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of how Blackmail is used to accomplish a political agenda. I guess I should have known that including the word "Mossad" in the thread title, it would bring the anti-Semetic whackadoodles like you out of the woodwork to tell us that everything is one big Jewish conspiracy because Ignatius Loyala parents were conversos and therefore blah blah blah the Jews did it blah blah blah.

    I am sure if you ask the mods, they can directed you to an appropriate thread to take your Jew hatred to and you can say whatever your want about how much you love the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


    The Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, aka "The Shriners",
    which, as per a post by Jaak, are an army of baby smugglers under the
    command of Jeffrey Epstein.

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    I do not know ... who is blackmailing who... for sure blackmailing, bribing was and is in sync with Zionists... from Roy Cohn, Epstein etc....

    Good talk Anna!

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    You like to blame jesuits but that also is another zio-jewish organisation ...
    British are controlled by zionists not other way around.


    That's backwards.

    What the f does Disraeli have to do with the founding of the Jesuit order? In a novel, no less.

    Loyola was nursing a broken leg and decided to sell "Army of God" to the pope, an act of marketing.

    The Jesuits were given the keys to the kingdom of a 1,500 year genocidal monolith.

    Tell me, again, what is more continuous than:


    Oliver Cromwell is the first known head of state to use the Jewish diaspora for hegemony. All British governments have carried this policy ever since.


    Or show us a Zio-beneficial move pulled by Jesuits.

    Suggest copying a source that doesn't have to stick "Jewish" on every line, as that is redolent of a sheer giveaway that the research is false. Or, rather, Fascist disinformation. I mean you get "Judeo-Masonic conspiracy theory" *from* a Jesuit for crying out loud. That's exactly what it is, same as the Freemasonic idea of a "Doctrine of Revenge" from being Templars. Those are both Jesuitry. Loyola the Zionist? Seriously??


    Moving on to the Mossad, people may find it interesting that I, personally, have ripped them off, for a considerably large number. The most concrete thing I can say is that it came out of funding that they invest in the Rohingya problem. This is like a black budget, tons of cash diverted into something that would not appear to concern Israel. It's not particularly nice at all, it's like Gaza without a Gaza, just a mobile camp. If I am positive they stick their fingers in that, it is easy to imagine what they might do anywhere with better access.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    https://archive.org/details/pdfy-fkyMnNzkeT5fzxTg
    By Way of Deception is a non-fiction book written by Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad officer, and Claire Hoy. The book is a chronicle of Ostrovsky’s experiences in the Mossad, Israel’s national intelligence agency, and his revelations about the agency’s covert activities around the world.
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    • By Way Of Deception / Mossad / Sayanim:

    Sayanim (Hebrew: סייענים) are Jews who live outside of Israel and often hold citizenships of countries they reside in, but who volunteer or are recruited clandestinely by Mossad to assist with their operations. The word Sayanim is Hebrew for "assisters" or "collaborators". The term Sayanim itself is plural, with a single one being a Sayan (Hebrew: סייענ).
    .
    Former Mossad officer Victor Ostrovsky, wrote extensively about activities of the Sayanim, as has Gordon Thomas. "According Ostrovsky and Gordon Thomas, the sayanim provide assistance of various kinds to Mossad officers operating in foreign countries. This assistance can include facilitating medical care, money, logistics, and even overt intelligence gathering. They can be judges, court clerks, expert witnesses, child protective service workers, Assistant District Attorneys, police officers, or anyone with a great degree of power over people's lives, and will do anything at the behest of Mossad case officers (known as a katsa) for the State of Israel against its enemies or those perceived to be unfavorable politically to Israeli policy." Sayanim are not paid and are only reimbursed for their expenses.
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    THE SAYANIM ARMY —-THE LARGEST FIFTH COLUMN IN THE WORLD [source wikispooks]
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    Jeffrey Epstein claimed to be Israeli spy – lawsuit
    The allegation of Mossad involvement was contained in a rape complaint by an ex-girlfriend
    https://www.rt.com/news/600124-epste...lawsuit-claim/

    Disgraced sex offender Jeffrey Epstein once boasted of being a Mossad agent just like Ghislaine Maxwell’s father Robert, according to the allegations made by a former girlfriend who is now suing his estate.


    Epstein worked as a financier and socialized with the rich and famous for years, introducing them to dozens of young women – some of whom were underage at the time – and flying them to his private island in the Caribbean.

    The California woman who filed the lawsuit was identified only as Jane Doe 200. She claimed to have met Epstein in Los Angeles in 2000 and became his girlfriend, until he violently raped her in late 2001.

    “Despite being in a committed relationship often spending nearly around-the-clock time together, what Epstein did for work was not clear,” said the lawsuit, filed at the Manhattan federal court earlier this week.

    According to Doe, both Epstein and Maxwell strongly suggested that he was an Israeli intelligence agent and warned her that “it was not good to be Epstein’s enemy.” Epstein was “not only extremely wealthy but also suspiciously well-connected, more so than all the other powerful men with whom he associated,” the lawsuit claimed.

    After Epstein “violently raped her” in New York, Doe tried to leave him, but he kept contacting her and offered her a “once in a lifetime opportunity” to network with powerful figures. She said she attended the event “purely for work purposes.”

    She also claimed that reporting the rape risked “significant bodily harm or death” because she considered Epstein “a Mossad agent with some of the most unique connections in the world.”

    Epstein was originally arrested for child sex abuse but given a surprisingly lenient plea deal. During the 2019 furor that resulted in Epstein’s re-arrest, some media outlets reported that the prosecutors had been told Epstein “belonged to intelligence,” but would not say which agency.

    Robert Maxwell – born Jan Ludvik Hyman Binyamin Hoch – long tried to quash any claims that he was a Mossad agent. He died in 1991, drowning off the coast of Spain, in a manner that sparked rumors that he had been assassinated or committed suicide. Maxwell was given a hero’s funeral in Jerusalem which was attended by former Mossad chiefs and Israel’s state leadership.

    American investigative journalist Julie K. Brown, who long pursued the story about Epstein’s sex trafficking, once told the Times of Israel that it was “not beyond the realm of possibility” that the financier had Israeli intelligence ties, because “Robert Maxwell certainly had those kinds of connections.”

    Epstein, 66, died in a Manhattan jail cell in August 2019 while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. The authorities officially classified his death as suicide, but rumors of foul play have persisted ever since. His long-term girlfriend and associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, was sentenced in 2022 to 20 years behind bars for child sex trafficking. While some of their victims have been identified by name, the clients’ list remains confidential.

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    Is grass green ?

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    I think Israel was originally partly established so that the west would have a foot hold/base for manipulating the oil rich arab nations. Since the end of the 2nd world war it has been all about oil. This was eventually going to change, and this change has now been knocking on the door for a while with the desire to somehow go electric.
    It would have been clear to Israel that their usefulness would one day expire and they would therefore have been motivated to get their own foot holds in the west. So yeah, blackmail politics would be an avenue.
    Of course there is always this age old obsession with the 'holy land' and who owns it...

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    I think Israel was originally partly established so that the west would have a foot hold/base for manipulating the oil rich arab nations.

    Somewhat, but it is standing on the shoulders of the Suez Canal and the House of Saud. The Suez was made around the 1850s after a few decades of posturing and mole work. This was going on before oil was particularly important. All the locals call Britain the original Satan as its limbs sprawled to Iraq and Iran as well. British Petroleum was exploiting thousands of Iranian laborers already in the 1920s, when Israeli migration was only just beginning to build momentum.

    Now if what you are saying, suits Oil Men, who may not be particularly religious, then, when a bunch of wide-eyed zealots show up for Aliyah, that simply suits your interest. The religious idea may be "original", but, it is not exactly master of its own destiny.

    To be more specific about Blackmail-type actions, I remember a post maybe a month ago exposing 20ish Mossad-linked spies in Yemen. Most of it would probably be classed as Sabotage. That might be worth copying into this thread.

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    I think Israel was originally partly established so that the west would have a foot hold/base for manipulating the oil rich arab nations.

    Somewhat, but it is standing on the shoulders of the Suez Canal and the House of Saud. The Suez was made around the 1850s after a few decades of posturing and mole work. This was going on before oil was particularly important. All the locals call Britain the original Satan as its limbs sprawled to Iraq and Iran as well. British Petroleum was exploiting thousands of Iranian laborers already in the 1920s, when Israeli migration was only just beginning to build momentum.

    Now if what you are saying, suits Oil Men, who may not be particularly religious, then, when a bunch of wide-eyed zealots show up for Aliyah, that simply suits your interest. The religious idea may be "original", but, it is not exactly master of its own destiny.

    To be more specific about Blackmail-type actions, I remember a post maybe a month ago exposing 20ish Mossad-linked spies in Yemen. Most of it would probably be classed as Sabotage. That might be worth copying into this thread.
    So, that really supports the idea of controlling oil supply.
    If the suez canal and the oil interests go back so far, its no surprise that someone had the bright idea to install a little country in the middle of it all and forever play the religious card to constantly upset the arabs so they can be invaded as needed.
    Of course that little pawn of a country developed its own existential wishes and strategies to maintain its existence..
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