An important announcement following the closure of the WORM TONGUE thread

[sleepy]

" We have met the enemy and he is us"....POGO

[jorr lundstrom]

This happening now is a P#ss in Mississippi. But wot will happen the day when the flow

of energy is at a level so that telepathy spreads lika a virus? Wot will happen then if a lot of people

have double agendas and a lot of not exactly tasteful secrets?

[granny]

Posted by ace (here)

Posted by Adaiahsshadow (here)

Posted by ace (here)
Abolish The PM service. Have it all up front. Were it should be.

Transparency = Truth, Understanding and Peace of mind.

PM= Paranoia.

Ace

I'd have to disagree with you on this one Ace. The reason being is that I never discuss someone else in PM, however I have many times worked with people concerning what they feel are personal issues. Seeing as you are one of my friends does that mean that if I came to you with a personal issue, you would have no problem discussing it publicly without my consent? I sincerely hope not.

Namaste.

Have i ever.

Ace

Ok then ....
The reason I do not want the PM system to disappear: I have casual conversations with my friends ... nothing that would really matter if it were public, but such communications would clutter up the forum ... unless of course everyone is interested in how many cats I am feeding on my back porch. jmo

[Lifesong]

Posted by greybeard (here)

His nose was out of joint as he felt he has significant information regarding Charles which had been ignored by Bill and the Mods.
He told me had given the info to admin. I dont know what the information is,

(...)

I call on anyone with what they think to be significant information regarding Charles to share it openly on the forum.

I question why they would not have already done so.

[Yoda]

Posted by chelmostef (here)
Anyone who wants to tell their story should be able to come here...IMO
We have to use our discernment

This is not a dumping place, it's a clearing house for TRUTH.
Pierre

[ace]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Respecting what you say.
These are all personal to you.
Fred Aster would say; It takes two to tango.
And its allways best to know who you are dancing with.
Regards
Ace


Ace, its true, it takes two to tango. But I have learned in my life, it only takes one for war.

If someone goes to war with you, your unwillingness to participate is a part of the war.

Please look around in the world wots happening between nations too.

Jorr I respect your being Greatly and I feel Ice would agree (I am in no way talking for him) He knows how to a "push the button".
In my world, you choose to push a persons buttons, it means you want to know.
Sometimes we get more than we bargained for.

Allow me to put it this way, She was under "attack" from six different positions. (I know this)
Can any one say Honestly? all this is down to one woman?

She might have seen and known things others did not, Don't forget she came with fresh eyes.

While allot of "Old Guard" had settled in to "Familiarity Comfort Zone" (which we know breeds content)
She is a analyst, She looks for the truth.

Some people don't like that.
Regards

Ace

[TWINNICK]

Posted by Gardener (here)

Posted by Icecold (here)
LOL. It may not have anything to do with Admin or mods.

Be aware that there are specialised people or AIs who have infiltrated this forum.

Edit: to suggest a far greater problem that email security breaches. What I'm saying is that it is not ADMIN and it is not MODS. Speculative at the moment, Edit

This is not a fantasy I'm afraid.

Ok I was going to sit this one out because I thought that Bill would get it for what it was. Thankfully Icecold has broached the subject so I feel I can support it here.

So far no one has taken into account the influences of mind manipulation or hyperdimesional reality. We are pretty awake indivduals on here, some much more than others; however being awake to the world situation does not mean we are awake to our true selves, our psyche, the influence of existential attack as individuals and collectively. It's a fact.

They attack through us, they use what is our weakest link, that which is UNCONSCIOUS in us and protected by the ego. Believe me, when a strategic person is triggered there is very often little that person can do about it. We see it over and over again, both in our personal lives and on the world stage and everywhere in between.

From my heart I hope that Bill will not allow this attack to have its effect, its time to SEE when the poison is injected and who is used as the vector.
I have to go out right now but I wanted to get this down now before it is too late.

This work must go on.
g

G'day,

UUmmmm if you go back to my post (and some other members) you will find that there is referance to the manipulation of the ptw and their mind control, and we know about the (cray) and psyops crap imposed on us.

..Nick..

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by ace (here)

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Respecting what you say.
These are all personal to you.
Fred Aster would say; It takes two to tango.
And its allways best to know who you are dancing with.
Regards
Ace


Ace, its true, it takes two to tango. But I have learned in my life, it only takes one for war.

If someone goes to war with you, your unwillingness to participate is a part of the war.

Please look around in the world wots happening between nations too.

Jorr I respect your being Greatly and I feel Ice would agree (I am in no way talking for him) He knows how to a "push the button".
In my world, you choose to push a persons buttons, it means you want to know.
Sometimes we get more than we bargained for.

Allow me to put it this way, She was under "attack" from six different positions. (I know this)
Can any one say Honestly? all this is down to one woman?

She might have seen and known things others did not, Don't forget she came with fresh eyes.

While allot of "Old Guard" had settled in to "Familiarity Comfort Zone" (which we no breeds content)
She is a analyst, She looks for the truth.

Some people don't like that.
Regards

Ace

I hear wot your saying Ace, did yuo read wot I answered you about tango?

But I dont agree with you, I trust my intuition one hundred percent. I have

sharpened it my whole life. She had a fight going with Spirit Wolf, both were

banned. When she came back she pictured herself as a victim. I dont feel quite

sure she was the victim in that fight.

[ulli]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
[This is now a little like that scene in A FEW GOOD MEN with Jack Nicholson.

You're damned right we read Private Messages!!

This is totally not funny, of course. That part of me that habitually makes references to movie moments had to make the link. I guess humor is a form of attempted denial. I really did not want this to be true.

I suffered for YEARS after leaving England for not leaving the (in)famous British humour behind.
YEARS!!
In other cultures it goes not only right over people's heads, many times it is totally taken the wrong way.
I went through many gauntlets as a result.
Poor Bill!

Not everyone is as subtle as you are.

Here is one of Gurdjieff's great bonmots:
(and please don't get me wrong, I'm just trying to be funny to lighten things up)

"The English are the most intelligent people on the planet which goes to show how low the planet still is."

[ace]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by ace (here)

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Respecting what you say.
These are all personal to you.
Fred Aster would say; It takes two to tango.
And its allways best to know who you are dancing with.


Regards
Ace


Ace, its true, it takes two to tango. But I have learned in my life, it only takes one for war.

If someone goes to war with you, your unwillingness to participate is a part of the war.

Please look around in the world wots happening between nations too.

Jorr I respect your being Greatly and I feel Ice would agree (I am in no way talking for him) He knows how to a "push the button".
In my world, you choose to push a persons buttons, it means you want to know.
Sometimes we get more than we bargained for.

Allow me to put it this way, She was under "attack" from six different positions. (I know this)
Can any one say Honestly? all this is down to one woman?

She might have seen and known things others did not, Don't forget she came with fresh eyes.

While allot of "Old Guard" had settled in to "Familiarity Comfort Zone" (which we no breeds content)
She is a analyst, She looks for the truth.

Some people don't like that.
Regards

Ace

I hear wot your saying Ace, did yuo read wot I answered you about tango?

But I dont agree with you, I trust my intuition one hundred percent. I have

sharpened it my whole life. She had a fight going with Spirit Wolf, both were

banned. When she came back she pictured herself as a victim. I dont feel quite

sure she was the victim in that fight.

Jorr
She had no fight with Spirit Wolf.
Spirit Wolf went looking for her. Go re read, the truth is all their.

With due respect some times when I sharpen my pencil to much
I lose the point

Ace

[Icecold]

Posted by TWINNICK (here)

Posted by Gardener (here)

Posted by Icecold (here)
LOL. It may not have anything to do with Admin or mods.

Be aware that there are specialised people or AIs who have infiltrated this forum.

Edit: to suggest a far greater problem that email security breaches. What I'm saying is that it is not ADMIN and it is not MODS. Speculative at the moment, Edit

This is not a fantasy I'm afraid.

Ok I was going to sit this one out because I thought that Bill would get it for what it was. Thankfully Icecold has broached the subject so I feel I can support it here.

So far no one has taken into account the influences of mind manipulation or hyperdimesional reality. We are pretty awake indivduals on here, some much more than others; however being awake to the world situation does not mean we are awake to our true selves, our psyche, the influence of existential attack as individuals and collectively. It's a fact.

They attack through us, they use what is our weakest link, that which is UNCONSCIOUS in us and protected by the ego. Believe me, when a strategic person is triggered there is very often little that person can do about it. We see it over and over again, both in our personal lives and on the world stage and everywhere in between.

From my heart I hope that Bill will not allow this attack to have its effect, its time to SEE when the poison is injected and who is used as the vector.
I have to go out right now but I wanted to get this down now before it is too late.

This work must go on.
g

G'day,

UUmmmm if you go back to my post (and some other members) you will find that there is referance to the manipulation of the ptw and their mind control, and we know about the (cray) and psyops crap imposed on us.

..Nick..

Yes nick, very good.

But what are you doing about it besides talking or knowing.

[Annacarl]

Well, My timing is really bad. Sent my first PM to Bill last night... Had no idea what was going on here. I used the PM as I do not want to embarrass myself with my ignorance. However, after reading a bit this morning I do not think I should worry about that. Bill if you see this , after I sent you the PM I found a couple of threads on the general subject although nothing about the person I ask you about. Anyway I am here searching for truth and am quickly realizing that many are all pretty lost and maybe I am not as stupid as I feel. I suppose there is no time wasted here but it is frustrating when things get personal and take us off track. Again I am thankful for you all and I am here to learn. Hopefully I will be able to help more soon.
Thanks,
Anna

[Yoda]

Posted by manny (here)
just a thought
how many people will leave here and join charles site.
the master of manipulation,stated he was sent to split bill and kerry.
next avalon?
how many people have left already.
how many people said they may leave soon.
is there a connection?

He gave the rules of engagement right from the beginning. I will bring him(Bill) into my confidence, then I will totally discredit him. They smiled.

[Jonathon]

I would love to have some pearl of wisdom that would 'fix' this situation, yet I'm mostly just reading post by post with my mouth half open and a dumb look on my face. I'm pretty sure some drool came out at some point LOL.

I will say this however:

1) Like graybeard said: The issue is never the issue.
2) The situation cannot be forced into the light in and of itself with any expectation of conclusion.
3) The pain body is very slick. It works on ALL of the information (especially that which you do not see) and takes the pieces that best justify it's own existence.
4) Emotion is a brief window into the deeper self. If each of us opens that window defenselessly we may find the wisdom we all seek.
5) This is not a crisis. It is an opportunity.
6) Amputation is a quick fix and cannot be construed as 'healing'. It also delays the inevitable personal journey through the dark nature of ourselves that we all must face. Use it to grow. That being said, we must also be aware of the ambiguous black mole that resists the process, in which case, removal is called for... but not prior to allowing the opportunity to change.

[Carmody]

when you have system that at appears to be flowing and working, it is essential to make sure it is not stagnation --- if the lack of stagnation is the overall desire.

The other side of it is... one has to excise the problematic components that disturb the flow. Decisions need to be made. Or at least tried on for size. This moon indicates energies. We're stepping into the energy period again, and not all of it is good. As moon/eclipse cycles/energies go, they have faces, directions, etc.

Think back to the original interview and the original release and this pulse (pair- dark and full moon) will have components of it that are shared.

right now, we are in the dark cycle, which was 'release' of the interview , Jan 01 (three days before the full moon) . December 18th was the full moon (3 days before the dark of the moon).

Whatever happened here yesterday is like the release of the interview and it's flow (public open)...and what initiated it started 2 weeks ago (plus one day) (15 days back- and it was dark/hidden)

[Yoda]

My alarm has been gently ringing for a few weeks now.[/QUOTE]

In the final stretch, ALL we have is our "alarm". No councillor, friend, forum, can replace the acuracy of our gut feeling.
Pierre

[jorr lundstrom]

Yes Nick, we are very aware about wot you are talking about. Dont think we are

unaffected in our little cottage. Lot of funny and not so funny things happening

all the time. But its just expected. If you stick your neck out, there is always someone

who goes for it. Wots happening right now is no joke. And I fret its just the beginning.

[ace]

Posted by Yoda (here)

Posted by manny (here)
just a thought
how many people will leave here and join charles site.
the master of manipulation,stated he was sent to split bill and kerry.
next avalon?
how many people have left already.
how many people said they may leave soon.
is there a connection?

He gave the rules of engagement right from the beginning. I will bring him into my confidence, then I will totally discredit him. They smiled.

No body's left 4\5 people on ice, out the picture, cool down, reflection time.
Lets keep this in perspective.

Lets not make a drama out of a blip

Ace

[Isostool]

Post removed ... because it felt right....

[13th Warrior]

Posted by John (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
My calling out Tone3Jaguar for using a pendulum to assess Wade Frazier's information as '11% accurate' was fully justified. Do take a moment to visit.

Bill,

Here is a quote of yours from the old forum. 03-04-2010 - not even a year ago.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...7&postcount=24

Posted by Bill Ryan

Posted by tone3jaguar
I would just like to say that this individual Jake Simpson / John Burns comes up 23% factually accurate when I dowse it. Then when I ask if he is an agent it comes up YES.

I'd say that you're 100% correct.

I'm impressed... tell us what else you get on anything else that comes to mind (Seriously)

I'm not picking a fight here or anything, but tone3jaguar was basically a nice guy on this forum and I think this whole matter should be left alone now. However, I cant sit on my hands while I see him continually characterised as stupid - he was anything but stupid and he was sincere about his method and gave full disclosure, accepting that he could be wrong. He did not set out to smear your friend - he simply reported his findings.

I am not arguing about what you felt about his post on his forum - I may well have been angry too and would have argued my case.

By you perpetuating this here in this thread I feel forced to point this out - again.

John..

I also witnessed this exchange...

Bill,

How about a retort?